WHile a lot of knowledge would be gone, it is far more likely that more than enough will be captured that the world would equal to at least 1900, probably later. The simple fact is, that libraries are a massive store of knowledge.
Like many republicans have said, this issue WILL resolve itself. What bothers me is that it will likely be in my lifetime, but it will certainly be in my kids lifetime.
What exactly do you base your statement that this is a bad model? Or do you object to something different and unique? Personally, I would like to see more about what this guy has before nuking it.
One issue that I have seen in soft 'Sciences', is that they resist the idea of applying real math and other science to their models. As it is, you just got done saying that economics counts on human behavior, i.e. psych, an even weaker science.
and other solutions does not. Basically, tax all goods at point of consumption (retail tax) with a CO2 tax based on WHERE ASSEMBLED AND PRIMARY SUB-COMPONENT come from, combined with the CO2 to get there (the further away a good is from consumption should incur a heavier tax due to shipping). Any other solution, esp. the command economy that is being pushed by EU under Kyoto is doomed to fail. It is the ONLY solution that I have seen that will involve all countries, businesses and nearly all ppl.
I do not have the time to Google for this, but I was under impression that WTO ruled against US on this very issue. It seems weird that nearly all states have gambling, but now, we are against gambling offshore via the net??????? What total garbage.
First, I HOPE that they buy pulver. They quit doing the free stuff long ago. It was nice having a global hook-up with them.
Second, Cisco sells hardware, not software. And they work with the telcos and ISP. Google would have a HECK of a hard time competing against them. And e-bay does skype. NOT SIP, though there are gateways. And it is starting to die down on its own.
Basically, Google is NOT a threat against the telcos. And to be honest, I wish they were.
How are they monopolists of information? In fact, have you seen them ILLEGALLY enforce their natural monopoly? Have you seen them do illegal actions to take over markets? If so, please provide the proof of that. Otherwise, Cayate la boca, chica.
Google called it Android because the planet from where they all come from has lots of Androids. And Oprah, Laura Bush, as well as Michelle Obama are secretly having babies from the top guys of Google.
How about testing it on ppl with Psoriasis? This is suppose to be a genetic disease in the same fashion that all of the duodenal ulcers were called that we suddenly soaring in count. Oddly, all of the drug companies claimed it was genetic and came up with all sorts of drugs to solve the symptoms, but not the problem.
Well, there are not that many of them. I am thinking that more and more, they belong with those that claim that the earth is flat, that the earth is the center of the universe, that God created the earth 5000 years ago, that man could NOT be derived from other primates, and that the vast majority of AIDs is not caused by HIV. In fact, I tend to think that it is about 95% those against GW as well as AGW ARE THE SAME SET OF SCIENTISTS.
Have to give your credit. Nearly all the discussions on here by the anti-GW ppl are almost always ACs. It is nice to see somebody who is willing to stick up for what they believe.
With that said, do you have any proof that all these ppl are lying? If you point to the recent emails, it is easy to say what everybody points out; Out of Context.
Likewise, if you point to Times mag from the 70's, with story about possible Ice age, then I will ask for 3 scientific articles from that time that supported that story.
If you scream that you have 1-2000 scientists, then I will simply point out that multiple 10's of 1000's disagree with that, and they have much more credibility on their side (many in the Anti-GW postings were discredited).
If you say that man is incapable of changing his environment, then I will simply point to links that show that man spits out far more CO2, as well as other pollutants, than did many volcanoes, including super volcanoes, that absolutely changed the environments.
And the absolute EASIEST item to point to for global warming, is the glaciers esp. Greenland and Antarctica. As to being caused by Man, that is much more difficult to prove, but nearly all scientists who study it, have laid out very strong data for it, and little against it.
Actually, south east Canada is hooked into America's eastern grid (which is why they went off-line when the east had a collapse several years ago). In addition, Western Canada, as well as Northern Mexico is hooked into the western half of the American grid. There are places that America sells Mexico electricity and Canada sells a lot our ways esp. in the northwest (cheap cheap hydro for Aluminum production). And we are increasing the use of superconductors right now. NYC has a short 5 mile link, and a new link is going into that hooks NM, Co, and Texas together. IIRC, it is only 50 miles worth, BUT, the price is coming down. I know that we are in fact, looking at doing a lot more.
But one of the problem with this, is showing up RIGHT NOW. France got so reliant on one type of nuke, that right now, they have to shutdown a number of nukes (emergency fixes), so are currently buying power from areas all around them. At this current moment, France is importing electricity. We need to get nations to change their energy matrix. In particular, nations need to be encouraged to NOT do more than 1/3 of a single type of power. Think about China with dependency of 77% on coal and 10-15% on Natural Gas. or America with Coal at 48% and Natural gas at 19%. All these nations have such dependency on ONE form of energy that it is expensive to change.
America and China are fighting having to drop their fossil fuels because we are so dependent on this. If real issues (not the hysteria) ever show up on Nukes, then France will be forced to move away. And that will be interesting.
I was wondering about this. The delta (which is mostly brackish water) typically has a great deal of life. I am wondering if the plants at the lowest level make use of this energy, or does it just get wasted? And just because somebody says that it is wasted, does not mean that it is. There is plenty that we do not know. Hopefully, we found out during these trials. I mean, if the miss has 47 GW available, that is a LOT of energy that could be REAL useful.
Likewise, all over the world, you have loads of fresh water that mixes that can be used for CHEAP power.
I am fan of Nukes, BUT, the mistake that nations make is when they depend on 1 type of power. For example, France is CURRENTLY an electricity importer BECAUSE they depended so heavily on nukes. Likewise, America is in trouble because we depend on Coal for 50% of our power. Instead, nations need to have a matrix of power so that when you run intro problems (say, emergency change needed at your nuke power plant, or under pressure from the world to drop your CO2 emissions, caused in no small part by your heavy use of coal power), then you can drop your usage. So yes, I want to see America's use of nukes increase to 33%, and go no further. Likewise, I would like to see us increase our AE to heavy percentages, but no more than 33% on any one tech. In fact, I would argue that Wind and Solar pv should not be more than 10%. The reason is that they are not base load power. OTH, The Mississippi is capable of generating a LOT of power. The same is true of other rivers around the world. Likewise, geo-thermal will no doubt be a major input to the world's matrix if Potter drilling gets done.
Every nation has a CIA equivalence. They have to. They have to know what others are doing and if there is a real threat. For example MI6 comes to mind.
Now, if you are calling them criminal because of Iraq/Afghanistan, then nope. The real problem was not CIA. These were simply foot soldiers doing what they were ordered to by the highest level of the gov.
Proof please. I have tried bing and found it to be less useful than Google. OTH, I guess if you are searching for MS documents, I suspect that Bing might do a better job, though not certain.
No. But rather than see China go above our levels, we need to get BELOW china's CURRENT LEVELs. That is why I keep pushing the tax on all goods. It makes EVERYBODY pay attention.
The real problem is the system is gamed heavily in their favor. We should make ALL monopoly connections be discontinued. Here in Denver region, Colorado, QWest has the monopoly on twisted pair, and Comcast has the monopoly on cable/fiber. If we remove these monopolies and regulations, it will allow real competition to come in.
First, who said that Per capita is the 'Right' measurement or a proper sense of 'Justice'? I have to say that doing a per-capita measurement is the real cop-out and by far the most evil. The reason is that at what point do we say that every should have everything just for the asking? I mean does Russia, Norway, and the rest of EU plan to ship much of their water to China, India and the middle east? After all, China and India have far far more ppl than does EU or Russia. In addition, we have seen Kyoto nations cheating left, right and sideways on conforming to Kyoto. There has been a great deal of it in fact. Even in Germany, the businesses are fighting against it. The reason is that they do not want to absorb the costs, while allowing other nations such as China to pollute at will. I pick on CHina due to the growth of economy as well as CO2 emissions. America is actually dropping right now, and even when the economy comes back, I suspect that it will continue downwards.
Secondly, Co2 emissions do NOT have to be tied to wealth, though it tends to be at this time. What is needed is for nations to focus on getting off of Coal/Oil. Yes, it is easier said than done. HOWEVER, the problem comes in, when large nations such as China/India decide to remain on Coal/Oil, while pushing other large areas to move off.
My push for the tax would get ALL NATIONS and regions involved with this. More importantly, it would keep oil/coal companies from gaming the system (which is where they leave a country, move to another to produce without restrictions and then import back).
And actually, I do heat the rocky mountain region; I live there:)
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WHile a lot of knowledge would be gone, it is far more likely that more than enough will be captured that the world would equal to at least 1900, probably later. The simple fact is, that libraries are a massive store of knowledge.
Like many republicans have said, this issue WILL resolve itself. What bothers me is that it will likely be in my lifetime, but it will certainly be in my kids lifetime.
What exactly do you base your statement that this is a bad model? Or do you object to something different and unique? Personally, I would like to see more about what this guy has before nuking it.
One issue that I have seen in soft 'Sciences', is that they resist the idea of applying real math and other science to their models. As it is, you just got done saying that economics counts on human behavior, i.e. psych, an even weaker science.
and other solutions does not. Basically, tax all goods at point of consumption (retail tax) with a CO2 tax based on WHERE ASSEMBLED AND PRIMARY SUB-COMPONENT come from, combined with the CO2 to get there (the further away a good is from consumption should incur a heavier tax due to shipping). Any other solution, esp. the command economy that is being pushed by EU under Kyoto is doomed to fail. It is the ONLY solution that I have seen that will involve all countries, businesses and nearly all ppl.
I do not have the time to Google for this, but I was under impression that WTO ruled against US on this very issue. It seems weird that nearly all states have gambling, but now, we are against gambling offshore via the net??????? What total garbage.
hehehehe. Sí, sé (hace 40 años, mi profesor lo dijo a menudo bastante a un amigo y a mismo). intentdo ser un bozo.
First, I HOPE that they buy pulver. They quit doing the free stuff long ago. It was nice having a global hook-up with them.
Second, Cisco sells hardware, not software. And they work with the telcos and ISP. Google would have a HECK of a hard time competing against them. And e-bay does skype. NOT SIP, though there are gateways. And it is starting to die down on its own.
Basically, Google is NOT a threat against the telcos. And to be honest, I wish they were.
He did his 8 years already. He is LONG GONE.
How are they monopolists of information? In fact, have you seen them ILLEGALLY enforce their natural monopoly? Have you seen them do illegal actions to take over markets? If so, please provide the proof of that. Otherwise, Cayate la boca, chica.
Google called it Android because the planet from where they all come from has lots of Androids. And Oprah, Laura Bush, as well as Michelle Obama are secretly having babies from the top guys of Google.
I think that should cover all the conspiracies.
How about testing it on ppl with Psoriasis? This is suppose to be a genetic disease in the same fashion that all of the duodenal ulcers were called that we suddenly soaring in count. Oddly, all of the drug companies claimed it was genetic and came up with all sorts of drugs to solve the symptoms, but not the problem.
Well, there are not that many of them. I am thinking that more and more, they belong with those that claim that the earth is flat, that the earth is the center of the universe, that God created the earth 5000 years ago, that man could NOT be derived from other primates, and that the vast majority of AIDs is not caused by HIV. In fact, I tend to think that it is about 95% those against GW as well as AGW ARE THE SAME SET OF SCIENTISTS.
Have to give your credit. Nearly all the discussions on here by the anti-GW ppl are almost always ACs. It is nice to see somebody who is willing to stick up for what they believe.
With that said, do you have any proof that all these ppl are lying? If you point to the recent emails, it is easy to say what everybody points out; Out of Context.
Likewise, if you point to Times mag from the 70's, with story about possible Ice age, then I will ask for 3 scientific articles from that time that supported that story.
If you scream that you have 1-2000 scientists, then I will simply point out that multiple 10's of 1000's disagree with that, and they have much more credibility on their side (many in the Anti-GW postings were discredited).
If you say that man is incapable of changing his environment, then I will simply point to links that show that man spits out far more CO2, as well as other pollutants, than did many volcanoes, including super volcanoes, that absolutely changed the environments.
And the absolute EASIEST item to point to for global warming, is the glaciers esp. Greenland and Antarctica. As to being caused by Man, that is much more difficult to prove, but nearly all scientists who study it, have laid out very strong data for it, and little against it.
Actually, south east Canada is hooked into America's eastern grid (which is why they went off-line when the east had a collapse several years ago). In addition, Western Canada, as well as Northern Mexico is hooked into the western half of the American grid. There are places that America sells Mexico electricity and Canada sells a lot our ways esp. in the northwest (cheap cheap hydro for Aluminum production). And we are increasing the use of superconductors right now. NYC has a short 5 mile link, and a new link is going into that hooks NM, Co, and Texas together. IIRC, it is only 50 miles worth, BUT, the price is coming down. I know that we are in fact, looking at doing a lot more.
But one of the problem with this, is showing up RIGHT NOW. France got so reliant on one type of nuke, that right now, they have to shutdown a number of nukes (emergency fixes), so are currently buying power from areas all around them. At this current moment, France is importing electricity. We need to get nations to change their energy matrix. In particular, nations need to be encouraged to NOT do more than 1/3 of a single type of power. Think about China with dependency of 77% on coal and 10-15% on Natural Gas. or America with Coal at 48% and Natural gas at 19%. All these nations have such dependency on ONE form of energy that it is expensive to change.
America and China are fighting having to drop their fossil fuels because we are so dependent on this. If real issues (not the hysteria) ever show up on Nukes, then France will be forced to move away. And that will be interesting.
I was wondering about this. The delta (which is mostly brackish water) typically has a great deal of life. I am wondering if the plants at the lowest level make use of this energy, or does it just get wasted? And just because somebody says that it is wasted, does not mean that it is. There is plenty that we do not know. Hopefully, we found out during these trials. I mean, if the miss has 47 GW available, that is a LOT of energy that could be REAL useful. Likewise, all over the world, you have loads of fresh water that mixes that can be used for CHEAP power.
I am fan of Nukes, BUT, the mistake that nations make is when they depend on 1 type of power. For example, France is CURRENTLY an electricity importer BECAUSE they depended so heavily on nukes. Likewise, America is in trouble because we depend on Coal for 50% of our power. Instead, nations need to have a matrix of power so that when you run intro problems (say, emergency change needed at your nuke power plant, or under pressure from the world to drop your CO2 emissions, caused in no small part by your heavy use of coal power), then you can drop your usage. So yes, I want to see America's use of nukes increase to 33%, and go no further. Likewise, I would like to see us increase our AE to heavy percentages, but no more than 33% on any one tech. In fact, I would argue that Wind and Solar pv should not be more than 10%. The reason is that they are not base load power. OTH, The Mississippi is capable of generating a LOT of power. The same is true of other rivers around the world. Likewise, geo-thermal will no doubt be a major input to the world's matrix if Potter drilling gets done.
Every nation has a CIA equivalence. They have to. They have to know what others are doing and if there is a real threat. For example MI6 comes to mind.
Now, if you are calling them criminal because of Iraq/Afghanistan, then nope. The real problem was not CIA. These were simply foot soldiers doing what they were ordered to by the highest level of the gov.
And every nation has one. Some are like the CIA suppose to spy on other nations. For the smaller nations, they spy on their own citizens.
Now, you are talking about the UI, not the search results. Big difference.
Proof please. I have tried bing and found it to be less useful than Google. OTH, I guess if you are searching for MS documents, I suspect that Bing might do a better job, though not certain.
Is this how Murdoch will be able to make more money than if he simply sold an honest paper? Work with a company that is known to cheat on all.
No. But rather than see China go above our levels, we need to get BELOW china's CURRENT LEVELs. That is why I keep pushing the tax on all goods. It makes EVERYBODY pay attention.
The real problem is the system is gamed heavily in their favor. We should make ALL monopoly connections be discontinued. Here in Denver region, Colorado, QWest has the monopoly on twisted pair, and Comcast has the monopoly on cable/fiber. If we remove these monopolies and regulations, it will allow real competition to come in.
First, who said that Per capita is the 'Right' measurement or a proper sense of 'Justice'? I have to say that doing a per-capita measurement is the real cop-out and by far the most evil. The reason is that at what point do we say that every should have everything just for the asking? I mean does Russia, Norway, and the rest of EU plan to ship much of their water to China, India and the middle east? After all, China and India have far far more ppl than does EU or Russia. In addition, we have seen Kyoto nations cheating left, right and sideways on conforming to Kyoto. There has been a great deal of it in fact. Even in Germany, the businesses are fighting against it. The reason is that they do not want to absorb the costs, while allowing other nations such as China to pollute at will. I pick on CHina due to the growth of economy as well as CO2 emissions. America is actually dropping right now, and even when the economy comes back, I suspect that it will continue downwards.
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Secondly, Co2 emissions do NOT have to be tied to wealth, though it tends to be at this time. What is needed is for nations to focus on getting off of Coal/Oil. Yes, it is easier said than done. HOWEVER, the problem comes in, when large nations such as China/India decide to remain on Coal/Oil, while pushing other large areas to move off.
My push for the tax would get ALL NATIONS and regions involved with this. More importantly, it would keep oil/coal companies from gaming the system (which is where they leave a country, move to another to produce without restrictions and then import back).
And actually, I do heat the rocky mountain region; I live there