I am more interested in seeing if they recover this rocket. IIRC, they have not been able to recover the falcon I's. I am surprised that they do not choose to launch several more 1's and get the recovery correct. But have to make the 2010 deadline.
On a side note, I do wish that he would pull in a partner or two and get the escape tower built. It would be nice to see human rated by the time the shuttle is over.
Why all know that they are thinking that way. Elon has spoken of the BFR a number of times 5 years ago. In addition, he has constantly pointed out that their test site is BUILT for it (though I do not think that the neighboring towns are going to care for it).
for the last year. But it was in a ford prototype that runs XP, and then Vista. Sadly, it kept getting BSOD before hitting Idaho. Heard that on the last attempt, they made it to Illinois last night, but then the car locked up in high speed, doing nothing but wasting energy. Who knows, they may actually make it to congress before they have had a chance to give away our great great grand children's money (reagan gave away mine while W has given away my children's, grandkids and great grandkids).
Hmmm. My earlier post did not appear to make it. I have always understood the majority costs of a newspaper to be the paper and all the items with it (the printers, typesetters, delivery, etc). In fact, my understanding is that it accounts for something like 50-60% of the costs. Do you have some data that says otherwise.
What I find funny is that so many believe in Obama for solving things while others are blaming the man for everything. I have seen ppl who blame Obama for the Mumbai attack as well as Israel/Hamas stuff now. Then there are others who think that he will fix all the racial issues in America while others think that we will be in worse shape than Zimbabwe on Jan 22.
I feel sorry for the man. He has probably inherited the WORSE situation since FDR who inherited a coming nightmare from Hoover/Coolidge fame. Maybe even Worse. At this point, if he is able to help the economy, put in amendments to solve the deficit issue that we have (Balanced Budget Amendment) AND will go after the corruption that we have (put W, Cheney, Delay, Hastert, Stevens, Blagovich, Jefferson, etc in prisons and pass amendments to prevent the illegal actions that we have seen for last 28 years), I would rate him in the top 5.
The specialized devices were expensive and were rented to the tone of 25-100/ month and then you STILL had to get a subscription. Instead, they need to SELL a low cost device that is geared towards reading, not towards simply pushing their own junk.
How many were reading Kansas City Kansan PAPER edition? How many of them will switch up to on-line? Saying that they only have 7000 readers on-line, while not saying what is paper version vs. how many will SWITCH once the paper is dropped is pretty worthless.
That last piece IS interesting and would be a real reason to sue. IOW, if they are simply serving as a gateway and produce nothing themselves, then you may have a point.
In the end, my statements still stand. These media companies are doing change HORRIBLY. They are managed by idiots that deserve to go out of business. The ones that will remain are those that adopt a similar way to what I suggested, OR something new altogether.
They DO see their adds on those pages. What they did not see was the total sites web adds. What is happening is that the small media company is not the first page and they are upset about it. Rather than trying to outdo NYT, they are using the courts. HOPEFULLY, the courts reverse this insane policy.
This is EXACTLY why the majority of media companies DESERVE to go under. These idiots want to nail them for free links. What amazes me, is that by now, you would think that not only would they support this, but since the REAL cost of a news paper is the paper and the printing of such, they would get rid of it. The major media companies could take ebookwise design and improve hardware (change USB to ethernet and wifi; change out the flash to something newer) as well as software (allow other formats esp..txt and.html directly), then add the capability to do news (make it seek out their site for updated news) PROFITABLY (add ads geared towards the user; provide cheap subscription that does just several ads total while none prescription gets small ad/page) all sold for under $100. Then drop your paper within several years. The important item is having the reporters. If ny times was STEALING the story (and not just the title, then they MIGHT have a real issue).
IOW, these guys have been cleaning anything relevant and creating lots of BS crap to put in there. By the time it is figured out, Cheney will be dead and W will be senile. Hopefully, these traitors are able to at least be caught on tax fraud.
What about airplanes? Mass transit. What they want is not cars, they want FASTER transit. The car is faster than most rail. That is why I keep saying that building an 80 mph train is WORTHLESS. Instead, a 200mph+ maglev between cities is what you want. In addition, this country needs to do an INTELLIGENT means of high speed cargo hauling. The smart thing is to build a track around the nation such that we have 4 NS tracks (coasts, west side of mississippi river and front range of Rockies) as well as 3 WE tracks (SD->ATL, SF->Wash, and most importantly, seattle -> nyc via minn, mlw, chi, dtrt, pitts, nyc). It sounds like BS, but if you put the trailers on the train and only have a stop ~1000 km (600 miles), it will mean the longest drive is 750 km (~500 miles). The one exception should be that northeast corridor (milw->nyc) and the west coast(SD->SF). Lots more stops in both. If we do that, we would drop our national import of oil, and speed up shipping items around.
Also General Atomic has a VERY clever design for a maglev. MUCH lower costs than any other design.
If I were Britain, or even the rest of EU, I would skip the part of working on habitats.Britain was talking of extending ISS with a module. Instead, they should buy the modules from Bigelow and focus on various robotics. In particular, I would work on some that can work on the outside of the ISS (floating around; help astronauts), and others that will work the moon/mars. The reason is that those same robots used on moon/mars can be used on Earth. That is also why America should be focusing on that.
As to cargo hauling, rockets ARE rocket SCIENCE. There is still art, but not like 50 years ago. Now, would be a good time for govs to get out of the task of cargo hauling and encourage the private enterprise to take over.
Well, I always think of current tradeoffs being the tank/fuel(100-200 lb) for the electric motor(s) (which is ~100lb for tesla) and the batteries for the engine (roughly 500 lbs with everything). Right now, the batteries on the tesla weigh more (something like 700 lb), but if the eestor comes to being, it will be less. In addition, the volume of the li-ion is big.
BUT, eestor is small volume wise.
This should be an interesting ride IFF this is true. They are going for DOD first by the sounds of it. But I was thinking about this. An electric snowmobile with this battery would out range current gas snowmobiles. I could see yellowstone forcing these due to quietness and none pollution. That push snowmobiles overnight into evs. I have wonder what about a boat? Not sure that I want to be in water with that voltage/amp around me.
Actually, a number of ppl have analysed this to death. UnShockingly, a number of ppl say it will work, and another group say it will not. What is interesting, is that numerous other patents HAVE been issued for similar capacitors already. Problem was, they could not bring it to production. Scaling up was the issue for Exxon. Apparently, they could make SMALL ones, just not large ones. Personally, I am not too worried about this.
They also claim to have it safe. Problem is, where are they testing? I do not see that happening. THAT DOES CONCERN ME. You are correct about the explosive part. The good news is that you would NEVER know and would never suffer unlike a gas tank explosion or fire. I suspect that if and when it is brought to market we will see "issues" (think pinto).
What I find interesting is ppl like you claiming that these guys are frauds and that this is about money. The top ppl have a LONG REPUTATION of above ground when they worked at IBM doing harddrives. As it is Kliener is BEGGING to invest more money in them. In the end, we will see what happens.
Gas is going UP in price. Yes, it is down TODAY. But we all KNOW that it will go up. In addition, an ICE is a complex beast. LOTS of maintenance. An electric car has minimal costs on that. But best of all, in the west, electricity will costs much less than gas does and will improve with time.
it is by no means certain that eestor will fit an arbitrary shape. It has plates in there akin to a lead acid. My guess is that this will look much more like a regular car battery, rather than the free flow of a li-ion.
The reason is that the owners have indicated that they will NOT be selling to any hybrids. EV onlys. Take out the generator/engine/tank and you have PLENTY of room.
DAMNED EXPENSIVE for this to NOT work. At this time, batteries are the hold back. The majority of the costs of the roadster is batteries (something like 70K). Since the EESTOR is to be around 5K in costs, lets assume 10. Do you think that the electronics will costs more than 60K for doing that? Somehow I doubt that it costs more than 10K.
Go to battery plus. THey can rebuild the batteries.
Yeah, that whole rechargeable is a TOTAL crock since they quit building the battery. But I saw recently a capacitor based system for tools. Just do not recall who had it. Quick to charge and no issues with battery replacement.
You can charge at night, and then use it to either charge your car during the day (you know that you will be running around), use it yourself, or sell it back to the power company. The advantage is that you buy it at a lower price than what you sell it back at (nighttime vs. daytime). The power company would then contract with ppl to guarentee a certain rate in return for GUARENTEED amount of power during the daytime. IOW, the power company can put in bigger base load power generators or there is Alternative Energy, and contract with a number of homes/businesses to handle peak loads. The big advantage for home owners is that they have a way to smooth the power (no spikes), and they have an emergency generator. Useful for when a transformer or a power line is taken out.
Yes. But Zenn does not have the exclusive deal for all cars. Apparently it is of a set site. Roughly, all sedans of accord size and UNDER. Of course, that accounts for something like 10-25% of all cars.
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I am more interested in seeing if they recover this rocket. IIRC, they have not been able to recover the falcon I's. I am surprised that they do not choose to launch several more 1's and get the recovery correct. But have to make the 2010 deadline.
On a side note, I do wish that he would pull in a partner or two and get the escape tower built. It would be nice to see human rated by the time the shuttle is over.
Why all know that they are thinking that way. Elon has spoken of the BFR a number of times 5 years ago. In addition, he has constantly pointed out that their test site is BUILT for it (though I do not think that the neighboring towns are going to care for it).
patent the idea, and then submit it to Google's box while you work on the idea.
Kind of like ppl paying MS for a new version of windows beta and then debugging it for them while telling others what they think of it?
for the last year. But it was in a ford prototype that runs XP, and then Vista. Sadly, it kept getting BSOD before hitting Idaho. Heard that on the last attempt, they made it to Illinois last night, but then the car locked up in high speed, doing nothing but wasting energy. Who knows, they may actually make it to congress before they have had a chance to give away our great great grand children's money (reagan gave away mine while W has given away my children's, grandkids and great grandkids).
Hmmm. My earlier post did not appear to make it. I have always understood the majority costs of a newspaper to be the paper and all the items with it (the printers, typesetters, delivery, etc). In fact, my understanding is that it accounts for something like 50-60% of the costs. Do you have some data that says otherwise.
What I find funny is that so many believe in Obama for solving things while others are blaming the man for everything. I have seen ppl who blame Obama for the Mumbai attack as well as Israel/Hamas stuff now. Then there are others who think that he will fix all the racial issues in America while others think that we will be in worse shape than Zimbabwe on Jan 22.
I feel sorry for the man. He has probably inherited the WORSE situation since FDR who inherited a coming nightmare from Hoover/Coolidge fame. Maybe even Worse. At this point, if he is able to help the economy, put in amendments to solve the deficit issue that we have (Balanced Budget Amendment) AND will go after the corruption that we have (put W, Cheney, Delay, Hastert, Stevens, Blagovich, Jefferson, etc in prisons and pass amendments to prevent the illegal actions that we have seen for last 28 years), I would rate him in the top 5.
The specialized devices were expensive and were rented to the tone of 25-100/ month and then you STILL had to get a subscription. Instead, they need to SELL a low cost device that is geared towards reading, not towards simply pushing their own junk.
How many were reading Kansas City Kansan PAPER edition? How many of them will switch up to on-line? Saying that they only have 7000 readers on-line, while not saying what is paper version vs. how many will SWITCH once the paper is dropped is pretty worthless.
That last piece IS interesting and would be a real reason to sue. IOW, if they are simply serving as a gateway and produce nothing themselves, then you may have a point.
In the end, my statements still stand. These media companies are doing change HORRIBLY. They are managed by idiots that deserve to go out of business. The ones that will remain are those that adopt a similar way to what I suggested, OR something new altogether.
They DO see their adds on those pages. What they did not see was the total sites web adds. What is happening is that the small media company is not the first page and they are upset about it. Rather than trying to outdo NYT, they are using the courts. HOPEFULLY, the courts reverse this insane policy.
This is EXACTLY why the majority of media companies DESERVE to go under. These idiots want to nail them for free links. What amazes me, is that by now, you would think that not only would they support this, but since the REAL cost of a news paper is the paper and the printing of such, they would get rid of it. .txt and .html directly), then add the capability to do news (make it seek out their site for updated news) PROFITABLY (add ads geared towards the user; provide cheap subscription that does just several ads total while none prescription gets small ad /page) all sold for under $100. Then drop your paper within several years. The important item is having the reporters. If ny times was STEALING the story (and not just the title, then they MIGHT have a real issue).
The major media companies could take ebookwise design and improve hardware (change USB to ethernet and wifi; change out the flash to something newer) as well as software (allow other formats esp.
They should be using a thermal energy system. Simply save the electricity as heat and then feed it back later.
IOW, these guys have been cleaning anything relevant and creating lots of BS crap to put in there. By the time it is figured out, Cheney will be dead and W will be senile. Hopefully, these traitors are able to at least be caught on tax fraud.
What about airplanes? Mass transit. What they want is not cars, they want FASTER transit. The car is faster than most rail. That is why I keep saying that building an 80 mph train is WORTHLESS. Instead, a 200mph+ maglev between cities is what you want. In addition, this country needs to do an INTELLIGENT means of high speed cargo hauling. The smart thing is to build a track around the nation such that we have 4 NS tracks (coasts, west side of mississippi river and front range of Rockies) as well as 3 WE tracks (SD->ATL, SF->Wash, and most importantly, seattle -> nyc via minn, mlw, chi, dtrt, pitts, nyc). It sounds like BS, but if you put the trailers on the train and only have a stop ~1000 km (600 miles), it will mean the longest drive is 750 km (~500 miles). The one exception should be that northeast corridor (milw->nyc) and the west coast(SD->SF). Lots more stops in both. If we do that, we would drop our national import of oil, and speed up shipping items around.
Also General Atomic has a VERY clever design for a maglev. MUCH lower costs than any other design.
If I were Britain, or even the rest of EU, I would skip the part of working on habitats.Britain was talking of extending ISS with a module. Instead, they should buy the modules from Bigelow and focus on various robotics. In particular, I would work on some that can work on the outside of the ISS (floating around; help astronauts), and others that will work the moon/mars. The reason is that those same robots used on moon/mars can be used on Earth. That is also why America should be focusing on that.
As to cargo hauling, rockets ARE rocket SCIENCE. There is still art, but not like 50 years ago. Now, would be a good time for govs to get out of the task of cargo hauling and encourage the private enterprise to take over.
of sending prisoners. It would be robots since they do not require O2/water/food.
Well, I always think of current tradeoffs being the tank/fuel(100-200 lb) for the electric motor(s) (which is ~100lb for tesla) and the batteries for the engine (roughly 500 lbs with everything). Right now, the batteries on the tesla weigh more (something like 700 lb), but if the eestor comes to being, it will be less. In addition, the volume of the li-ion is big. BUT, eestor is small volume wise.
This should be an interesting ride IFF this is true. They are going for DOD first by the sounds of it. But I was thinking about this. An electric snowmobile with this battery would out range current gas snowmobiles. I could see yellowstone forcing these due to quietness and none pollution. That push snowmobiles overnight into evs. I have wonder what about a boat? Not sure that I want to be in water with that voltage/amp around me.
So the fact that l-mart seccured all rights to this for DOD purposes means nothing?
Actually, a number of ppl have analysed this to death. UnShockingly, a number of ppl say it will work, and another group say it will not. What is interesting, is that numerous other patents HAVE been issued for similar capacitors already. Problem was, they could not bring it to production. Scaling up was the issue for Exxon. Apparently, they could make SMALL ones, just not large ones. Personally, I am not too worried about this.
They also claim to have it safe. Problem is, where are they testing? I do not see that happening. THAT DOES CONCERN ME. You are correct about the explosive part. The good news is that you would NEVER know and would never suffer unlike a gas tank explosion or fire. I suspect that if and when it is brought to market we will see "issues" (think pinto).
What I find interesting is ppl like you claiming that these guys are frauds and that this is about money. The top ppl have a LONG REPUTATION of above ground when they worked at IBM doing harddrives. As it is Kliener is BEGGING to invest more money in them. In the end, we will see what happens.
Gas is going UP in price. Yes, it is down TODAY. But we all KNOW that it will go up. In addition, an ICE is a complex beast. LOTS of maintenance. An electric car has minimal costs on that. But best of all, in the west, electricity will costs much less than gas does and will improve with time.
it is by no means certain that eestor will fit an arbitrary shape. It has plates in there akin to a lead acid. My guess is that this will look much more like a regular car battery, rather than the free flow of a li-ion.
The reason is that the owners have indicated that they will NOT be selling to any hybrids. EV onlys. Take out the generator/engine/tank and you have PLENTY of room.
DAMNED EXPENSIVE for this to NOT work. At this time, batteries are the hold back. The majority of the costs of the roadster is batteries (something like 70K). Since the EESTOR is to be around 5K in costs, lets assume 10. Do you think that the electronics will costs more than 60K for doing that? Somehow I doubt that it costs more than 10K.
Go to battery plus. THey can rebuild the batteries.
Yeah, that whole rechargeable is a TOTAL crock since they quit building the battery. But I saw recently a capacitor based system for tools. Just do not recall who had it. Quick to charge and no issues with battery replacement.
You can charge at night, and then use it to either charge your car during the day (you know that you will be running around), use it yourself, or sell it back to the power company. The advantage is that you buy it at a lower price than what you sell it back at (nighttime vs. daytime). The power company would then contract with ppl to guarentee a certain rate in return for GUARENTEED amount of power during the daytime. IOW, the power company can put in bigger base load power generators or there is Alternative Energy, and contract with a number of homes/businesses to handle peak loads. The big advantage for home owners is that they have a way to smooth the power (no spikes), and they have an emergency generator. Useful for when a transformer or a power line is taken out.
Yes. But Zenn does not have the exclusive deal for all cars. Apparently it is of a set site. Roughly, all sedans of accord size and UNDER. Of course, that accounts for something like 10-25% of all cars.