Southern Taxes to Az, by end of 2017 though knowing Tesla, it is really be end of 2018. Still....
Still, this is no different than when I was a kid and in the 70s, esp on Sundays, we had to consider where gas stations where to drive from Illinois to Mich, or Illinois to California. Yet, by mid 80s, it was a none issue.
Same way with EVs, and no doubt Tesla will be the first. What is interesting is that their next SC that should be coming out now, will allow for 5-10 minute charges.
Wow. So many things wrong. First off, SCs we're never meant to be primary source of electricity. House plugs are. SCs are meant for in between end points of long distant driving. IOW, u charge at your original and then end point using much lower current and price electricity. If 100% of our vehicle s are EVs, and something like 85% of our vehicles charge at night time, it will actually lower total cost of electricity. These cars that charge in.daytime will in the end cost society with a higher electricity costs.
as to RV parks, Some of them simply charge by the hour and that solves that issue.
The MS has been defect free for some time ( until recently when musk pushes for quarterly). Yes, the MAX has more then their fair share of issues. And if Tesla produces M3 with MS quality, they will do great. Otoh, if done at MX level, well, they will have customer issues.
Lol.
Your are the first individual that I have seen make that accusation.
The fact that he bought the premier robotic manufacturing company probably makes you way wrong.
Wrong idea. Right now, SOME of the cars are using signs. By switching to maps, AND allowing for local digital 'NOTAMs', then most signs would simply be used to confirm. Stop and yield signs should always override data. Others should be questioned and turned over to driver.
Not really. Lithium is required for high density batteries. In fact, the high energy density come from Li-air batteries. It is impossible to build a battery with higher energy density. As such, as long as batteries are used, similar plant technique will be used. As to the other elements, they would simply be recycled and used in other products.
The only thing that will boot batteries, is capacitors, and they do not have high enough energy density. Yet.
We do visit relatives that are 180 miles away, and when we do, we DO charge up at their house though it is because they volunteer it. After all, it is only about $2 which is less than the food or drink that we bring there.
And probably about 1/4 to 1/3 of hotels in America offer an EV charger that is either free or you pay a couple of bucks for.
Where do you live?
The battery life of the leaf depends on where you live. In Denver, the leaf is SO-SO. North of here, the leaf appears to do pretty good. OTOH, down in pueblo Colorado, they constantly burn out early and then go cheap (5K).
The leaf battery, along with the HVAC on it, actually DOES sux.
Seriously, these machines should be using signs to augment mapping info.
In addition, the feds should come up with a SINGULAR approach on how to put up secured temporary local notifications.
Perhaps a digital form of NOTAMs.
Seriously, they control their own future and have the ability to drop costs relative to others.
OTOH, companies like Nissan, GM, Ford, etc that do NOT build their own plants will not be able to compete against Germans (who are late to the game, but getting there), the Chinese (who will learn how to properly make cars, but at this time, only a fool would buy), and Tesla.
Bullshit.
The feds did not buy their stock, but Ford insisted on getting a 20B loan that is STILL NOT PAID. Worse, they are offshoring jobs that they promise not to. You neo-cons constantly lie about your giving subsidies to businesses than lie about the minor stuff that helps America.
ULA, a competitor to SX, gets 1B / year subsidy. Boeing recently got 4B to develop a human rated space craft and fly it 3x. SX got less than 3B for doing it AND flying it 6x. SX continues to under bid all other rocket launchers for NASA, and the DOD while having 2/3 to 3/4 of their flights be commercial work, not gov.
So very little subsidy for SX, and massive ones for its competitors.
Tesla got a.5B loan that they paid off early. In addition, customers get 7500 / EV that Tesla sells.
GM, Ford, and Chrysler were bailed out by the gov partially with payoffs and partially with loans that STILL ARE NOT PAID OFF. All of the cars sold in America get 7500 for being hybrid or EV. In addition, back in 2008, America bought a large number of used cars to subsidize car sales for Ford, GM, and Chrysler. So, very little to no subsidy on Tesla's part, but HUGE ones for its competitors.
Oil companies and coal are MASSIVELY subsidized. Worse yet, ICE vehicles are not paying anywhere close to what it takes to maintain the roads. We need to increase taxes on diesel and gas by another.25/gal MINIMUM.
Then we have solar city. CONgress continues to push subsidies for Solar. Yet, SC has the LOWEST costs in America and are about to go even lower later this year.
To read idiots that claim that Musk is living on subsidies is just a FUD POS from kock bros and other idiot far right wingies.
The big mistake that so many ppl believe that TRUE TOTAL security is possible. It is not. The reason is that new approaches to defeat a security will be found. ALWAYS.
What is really needed is the ability to change security quickly.
For example, the DOD recently asked for ideas on how to secure the net and communication as a whole. With plug-gable architecture that can negotiate with the other side on what protocol and what settings, is the only possible solution.
Likewise, for IOT and with our appliances at home, there should be a 'button' that connects between say a POE from the applice and can then deal with wifi, or zwave or nuwave or blue tooth, or simply IPv6 over cat5. Down the road, if the house is updated, then the 'button' is changed.
And anybody that believes that the net can be 'secured by default' is not really into security, but is just a PHB.
Bingo. That is the biggest drawback of the leaf.
But, it really show up at LA on South. If you own it in moderate temp location AND you do not go to fast chargers, they last 'ok'.
Right now, they are ideal for buying used ( assuming daily travel is less than 60 miles ) while waiting for M3.
let the subsidy die.
Tesla is going to do JUST fine without it. In fact better since they actually used to CORRECTLY, while the others used it to push hybrids. Basically, GM and the rest wasted their opportunity.
Musk has a 35K car that is worth 35K. It competes head on against BMW 3/4 series,and based on offerings/prices, it appears that they will do QUITE nicely.
What is needed is to deal with QA. I THINK tha tthey have done so by inverting their manufacturing process. We will find out shortly.
But if so, then I expect Tesla to be selling 1M / year of these within 2 years. And yes, they will be PROFITABLE.
Ok. So you do not buy it.
go to afdc.gov electrical map.
Now, click on more options and change charger types to DC fast. No level 2 or others.
Then go to connectors and select only dc fast, without Tesla ( chademo and sae combo). Then tell us how many routes you have for crossing the nation.
Now, go to https://supercharge.info./ tell us how many routes that cross the nation, and to make it fun, tell us where you can cross the nation ( only North Dakota ). Quite the difference.
Actually, we own an MS, and have to say, that once used to screen, it blows the doors off buttons.
Almost everything is within 2 levels, and easy to work.
And total BS.
That was NOT an investment, but a gov. guaranteed loan, which was paid back with interest. It is funny how angry the far right is about musk. They want us to be energy independent, but fight against moving us off burning oil. They claim they hate gov subsidies, while fossil fuel is one of the largest subsidies that we give. They claim they want jobs back, and musk has made more jobs here than any other business over the last 30 years.
Yet, you far righties scream, rant, and lie about him.
Uh no. Ppl quit riding the train because cars were cheaper and faster. With HL, it will not be a train, but small pods/cars which can take off at various times and get 100 miles in 7 minutes (compared to 70-90 minutes for car). If his prices compete against cars, he wins flat out.
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Southern Taxes to Az, by end of 2017 though knowing Tesla, it is really be end of 2018. Still....
Still, this is no different than when I was a kid and in the 70s, esp on Sundays, we had to consider where gas stations where to drive from Illinois to Mich, or Illinois to California. Yet, by mid 80s, it was a none issue.
Same way with EVs, and no doubt Tesla will be the first. What is interesting is that their next SC that should be coming out now, will allow for 5-10 minute charges.
Wow. So many things wrong. First off, SCs we're never meant to be primary source of electricity. House plugs are. SCs are meant for in between end points of long distant driving. IOW, u charge at your original and then end point using much lower current and price electricity. If 100% of our vehicle s are EVs, and something like 85% of our vehicles charge at night time, it will actually lower total cost of electricity. These cars that charge in.daytime will in the end cost society with a higher electricity costs.
as to RV parks, Some of them simply charge by the hour and that solves that issue.
The MS has been defect free for some time ( until recently when musk pushes for quarterly). Yes, the MAX has more then their fair share of issues. And if Tesla produces M3 with MS quality, they will do great. Otoh, if done at MX level, well, they will have customer issues.
Not only cheapest but most dangerous. Even now , they are seeing Chinese cars catch fire as they move to a more energy dense formula.
Lol. Your are the first individual that I have seen make that accusation. The fact that he bought the premier robotic manufacturing company probably makes you way wrong.
Huh. The fact that Tesla/panasonic already produces 20-25% of worlds li-ion batteries kind of makes them a volume manufacturer.
Wrong idea. Right now, SOME of the cars are using signs. By switching to maps, AND allowing for local digital 'NOTAMs', then most signs would simply be used to confirm. Stop and yield signs should always override data. Others should be questioned and turned over to driver.
national average is ~.11 with Colorado being .10. Pueblo, co is around .16/kwh, but they switched to time based so they pay .08/kwh in middle of night. .08, or $3.20-$4.00, which again, they do not care about.
In addition, we stop at c.springs and charge for free at Tesla SC site. So it is typically 40-50 kwh that we add at
Sadly, astroturfers always way overestimate.
Which, other than Tesla and Nissan, all none Chinese car makers are buying from LG, which is expensive.
Not really. Lithium is required for high density batteries. In fact, the high energy density come from Li-air batteries. It is impossible to build a battery with higher energy density. As such, as long as batteries are used, similar plant technique will be used. As to the other elements, they would simply be recycled and used in other products. The only thing that will boot batteries, is capacitors, and they do not have high enough energy density. Yet.
We do visit relatives that are 180 miles away, and when we do, we DO charge up at their house though it is because they volunteer it. After all, it is only about $2 which is less than the food or drink that we bring there.
And probably about 1/4 to 1/3 of hotels in America offer an EV charger that is either free or you pay a couple of bucks for.
there are more than 900 stations in Texas spread all over (map does not include RV parks). /day
we have a Tesla that we charge overnight on a simple 120V since my wife only goes about 60 miles
when we take long trips we use the Tesla SCs, which make life easy.
Where do you live?
The battery life of the leaf depends on where you live.
In Denver, the leaf is SO-SO. North of here, the leaf appears to do pretty good. OTOH, down in pueblo Colorado, they constantly burn out early and then go cheap (5K).
The leaf battery, along with the HVAC on it, actually DOES sux.
Seriously, these machines should be using signs to augment mapping info.
In addition, the feds should come up with a SINGULAR approach on how to put up secured temporary local notifications.
Perhaps a digital form of NOTAMs.
Seriously, they control their own future and have the ability to drop costs relative to others.
OTOH, companies like Nissan, GM, Ford, etc that do NOT build their own plants will not be able to compete against Germans (who are late to the game, but getting there), the Chinese (who will learn how to properly make cars, but at this time, only a fool would buy), and Tesla.
Bullshit. The feds did not buy their stock, but Ford insisted on getting a 20B loan that is STILL NOT PAID. Worse, they are offshoring jobs that they promise not to. You neo-cons constantly lie about your giving subsidies to businesses than lie about the minor stuff that helps America.
ULA, a competitor to SX, gets 1B / year subsidy. Boeing recently got 4B to develop a human rated space craft and fly it 3x. SX got less than 3B for doing it AND flying it 6x. SX continues to under bid all other rocket launchers for NASA, and the DOD while having 2/3 to 3/4 of their flights be commercial work, not gov.
.5B loan that they paid off early. In addition, customers get 7500 / EV that Tesla sells. .25/gal MINIMUM.
So very little subsidy for SX, and massive ones for its competitors.
Tesla got a
GM, Ford, and Chrysler were bailed out by the gov partially with payoffs and partially with loans that STILL ARE NOT PAID OFF. All of the cars sold in America get 7500 for being hybrid or EV. In addition, back in 2008, America bought a large number of used cars to subsidize car sales for Ford, GM, and Chrysler. So, very little to no subsidy on Tesla's part, but HUGE ones for its competitors.
Oil companies and coal are MASSIVELY subsidized. Worse yet, ICE vehicles are not paying anywhere close to what it takes to maintain the roads. We need to increase taxes on diesel and gas by another
Then we have solar city. CONgress continues to push subsidies for Solar. Yet, SC has the LOWEST costs in America and are about to go even lower later this year.
To read idiots that claim that Musk is living on subsidies is just a FUD POS from kock bros and other idiot far right wingies.
The big mistake that so many ppl believe that TRUE TOTAL security is possible. It is not. The reason is that new approaches to defeat a security will be found. ALWAYS.
What is really needed is the ability to change security quickly.
For example, the DOD recently asked for ideas on how to secure the net and communication as a whole. With plug-gable architecture that can negotiate with the other side on what protocol and what settings, is the only possible solution.
Likewise, for IOT and with our appliances at home, there should be a 'button' that connects between say a POE from the applice and can then deal with wifi, or zwave or nuwave or blue tooth, or simply IPv6 over cat5. Down the road, if the house is updated, then the 'button' is changed.
And anybody that believes that the net can be 'secured by default' is not really into security, but is just a PHB.
Bingo. That is the biggest drawback of the leaf. But, it really show up at LA on South. If you own it in moderate temp location AND you do not go to fast chargers, they last 'ok'. Right now, they are ideal for buying used ( assuming daily travel is less than 60 miles ) while waiting for M3.
let the subsidy die.
Tesla is going to do JUST fine without it. In fact better since they actually used to CORRECTLY, while the others used it to push hybrids. Basically, GM and the rest wasted their opportunity.
Musk has a 35K car that is worth 35K. It competes head on against BMW 3/4 series,and based on offerings/prices, it appears that they will do QUITE nicely.
What is needed is to deal with QA. I THINK tha tthey have done so by inverting their manufacturing process. We will find out shortly.
But if so, then I expect Tesla to be selling 1M / year of these within 2 years. And yes, they will be PROFITABLE.
Ok. So you do not buy it. go to afdc.gov electrical map. Now, click on more options and change charger types to DC fast. No level 2 or others. Then go to connectors and select only dc fast, without Tesla ( chademo and sae combo). Then tell us how many routes you have for crossing the nation.
Now, go to https://supercharge.info./ tell us how many routes that cross the nation, and to make it fun, tell us where you can cross the nation ( only North Dakota ). Quite the difference.
Actually, we own an MS, and have to say, that once used to screen, it blows the doors off buttons. Almost everything is within 2 levels, and easy to work.
And total BS. That was NOT an investment, but a gov. guaranteed loan, which was paid back with interest. It is funny how angry the far right is about musk. They want us to be energy independent, but fight against moving us off burning oil. They claim they hate gov subsidies, while fossil fuel is one of the largest subsidies that we give. They claim they want jobs back, and musk has made more jobs here than any other business over the last 30 years. Yet, you far righties scream, rant, and lie about him.
No need. Most of the buyers know they are not getting federal money and still line up for Tesla model 3.
Uh no. Ppl quit riding the train because cars were cheaper and faster. With HL, it will not be a train, but small pods/cars which can take off at various times and get 100 miles in 7 minutes (compared to 70-90 minutes for car). If his prices compete against cars, he wins flat out.