Really?what tech will he be ripping off and from whom? Also engineers working for him seem to be much happier than working for places like Ula, GM, Ford, BMW, Daimler, Toyota, Boeing, etc.
Yeah, he and some MontanaSkeptic guy are well known for arguing that Tesla is dead, but Tesla keeps going and selling more. Gut feeling says both are idiot trolls being paid by kock Bros.
Well consider that majority of American M3 buyers KNOW they will not get 7500 from feds, and are STILL buying M3s. In fact, it appears that M3 may be the highest demand car in America.
Yeah, and ppl like you have correctly pointed out that musk would never get a rocket company off the ground, let alone have it be the cheapest and reuse rockets.
Likewise, electric cars will never beat ICE and a new car company will never make in America.
Thank God that ppl like you exist to mess with the stock market.
If hyperloop really builds out with 2 miles and can show that they are much cheaper, then CA will either switch, OR, musk will start boring between SF to LA, or perhaps LA to SD, and prove this long before cahst starts.
In fact, we need to get rid of all H1Bs.
In addition, divide the number of green cards by 10, and use that.
The reason is that majority of H1B is being used to replace Americans, not supplement us, AND, Green Cards will stay while about 50% of H1Bs convert.
Seriously, rather than doing H1Bs, it should be green cards and should based on corporate needs.
Also, the hire should be required to ONLY work INSIDE of that company. IOW, they can not be contracted out.
Finally, the green card holder should not be allowed to contract for the first 5 years that they are here.
U know, since you are so certain that Tesla M3 is a disaster, u should not only SHORT Tesla stock, but also consider buying something like a new MB S class. You will really teach musk a lesson that you are smarter than he is.
False.
The number of shorts orders is actually small.
The difference is that these orders are massive. Most have been placed by oil and car companies, along with ppl like kock Bros who stand to lose 10s of billions when oil and car companies stock plummet.
what you are saying about ROI would be true if applied to Tesla at this moment.
BUT, SpaceX is a WHOLE other issue. Other than employees, the ONLY ones that can buy the stock are a number of billionaires and a few millionaire friends of Musk. And they continue to buy that stock.
Do you think that they are part of a cult? I do not. I think that they are SMART businessmen who KNOW where SpaceX is going and what it will be worth down the road. The fact that YOU DO NOT would indicate that you are not billionaire and more importantly, will never even be a millionaire since you would rather troll here than ask questions about spacex.
If NSA catches somebody being a traitor, then I DEMAND that they do their job and track them, while turning over information to FBI, trump, etc.
The last thing I want is more traitors here. We already have the Russians and CHinese trying hard to destroy America. We do not need 'Americans' like manafort and trump to help them.
what is scary about this?
That NSA was watching foreign spies and top political ppl?
Or that information on traitors that were caught was turned over to the current president?
Or that supposedly that ppl in the trump admin were unmasking 'Americans' illegally?
Sorry, but I worked on the USA PATRIOT act. I saw enough to know that we have a LOT of spies here (though far more CHinese than Russians; at least back in 2006 timeframe). I also know that terrorism was a serious issue back then, and I can only assume that it remains that way today.
WIth that said, I will have to say that if the NSA was doing any illegal spying on Trump's ppl, that I would be upset.
However, by the same token, I would be equally upset if the NSA was listening in on the Russians (or chinese, etc) and found traitors amongst our midst and did allowed them to remain just because they were Americans.
After all, would you expect NSA to NOT listen in on American terrorist? Imagine if the NSA had caught Nidal Hasan, contacted a KNOWN terrorist in Pakistan. Are you suggesting that NSA and the intelligence world should overlook it because he is AMerican and a major in the USA? How about if the NSA had been monitoring a KNOWN terroists in Chechnya, and caught either 1 or both of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnev connecting them?
If they are NOT allowed to extend their investigations of the terrorists, then how exactly do you think that we will stop them? Likewise, why bother having NSA if they can not turn over these issues to those that can deal with it?
All in all, USA PATRIOT gives DIRECT permission for NSA and FBI, etc to go after anybody that was found to be associated with terrorists. Where FISA would come in, is if they listen in on multiple conversation of Trump ppl talking to Russians speaking for Trump. Imagine if NSA caught Manafort or Trump Jr speaking to the Russian Ambassador (who also works for the SVR ) and says:
Mr. trump has agreed that if you will help him be president AND forgive his 3 billion that he owes Mr. Putin, that Mr. Trump will remove sanctions, and will work closer with you. In addition, he will work to destroy NATO so that you can invade western Europe and America will stay out of it.
.
At that point, if NSA wants to monitor Manafort/Trump Jr, they can without any extra legal permission.
OTOH, they have to get fisa to listen to Trump, unless they catch him talking about it with Manafort/Trump Jr.
No, it is NOT parallel construction.
That is based on the idea that the NSA is listening in to Americans. ILLEGALLY.
This situation is NOT THE CASE. The NSA was listening to the Russians, of which the majority of the capture was likely in Europe( IOW, Americans would go to Europe to escape NSA and not aware of how far we really DO listen).
In this particular case, the NSA was DOING THEIR JOBS and obtained all of this evidence LEGALLY.
The worst that has happened here is that somebody else was looking to ID the Americans that were traitors, above and beyond what the NSA was telling.
BUT, the obtaining of that evidence was very likely 100% legal AND can be used against Trump/GOP.
The real issue is that the GOP is trying desperately to deflect from what happened.
The real issue here is that NSA and other intelligence groups do NOT want to give up any more information than they have to. Snowden has a done a REAL number on us. A lot of what is done legally has been outed by him and others. We can not afford to lose all of our secrets on how we spy on Russians, Chinese, etc. So, they are only giving up information when Trump and the GOP lie to cover themselves. If all goes well, Mueller will have enough evidence soon, to enable him to go after Trump's financial information. Once that is outed, it should be obvious that he is a traitor of the worst klnd such as Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen, and John Walker, Jr.
Bullshit.
The ENTIRE intelligence world wants NOTHING to do with Trump. Even now, they refuse to directly give Trump and most of his admin, ANY intelligence on Russia because they caught him being a traitor. Hell, even those that Trump appointed act odd about how they are giving intelligence to Trump. They KNOW that he is a traitor.
This was clearly not political, but instead, finding a number of traitors in our midst that now must be dealt with. Hopefully, they will be found guilty of giving aid to the enemy and will be executed.
The officials in question had no business accessing the identities of any US person caught up in incidental collection, regardless of how bad the appearance of the alleged activity.
Total BS. What exactly do you think that the intelligence world is supposed to be doing? Nothing?
Their job is to find out what foreign nationals/spies/terrorists/etc are doing. More importantly, when they find that they are up to issues, then we can and MUST follow the trail and locate all those in AMerica that are working with them against our national interest.
In POF, it would be INSANE to have located issues like this, and then ignore them because it involved an American. When you catch somebody being a traitor at the HIGHEST LEVEL, you go after them. It is obvious that the intelligence world CAUGHT Trump and the GOP being traitors to America and you and others like you, are simply upset and will go to great lengths to justify their treason, which for all intents and purposes, makes you accomplices to treason.
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Really?what tech will he be ripping off and from whom? Also engineers working for him seem to be much happier than working for places like Ula, GM, Ford, BMW, Daimler, Toyota, Boeing, etc.
far more likely, they want a secured system, just like their customers want.
huh.
Where did you hear that 10% cancelled?
I missed that.
Amazon is deeply in debt.
Or follow Amazon , who was not making profits for ages.
Yeah, he and some MontanaSkeptic guy are well known for arguing that Tesla is dead, but Tesla keeps going and selling more. Gut feeling says both are idiot trolls being paid by kock Bros.
Well consider that majority of American M3 buyers KNOW they will not get 7500 from feds, and are STILL buying M3s. In fact, it appears that M3 may be the highest demand car in America.
Yeah, and ppl like you have correctly pointed out that musk would never get a rocket company off the ground, let alone have it be the cheapest and reuse rockets. Likewise, electric cars will never beat ICE and a new car company will never make in America. Thank God that ppl like you exist to mess with the stock market.
If hyperloop really builds out with 2 miles and can show that they are much cheaper, then CA will either switch, OR, musk will start boring between SF to LA, or perhaps LA to SD, and prove this long before cahst starts.
And yet, we have loads of travel around the world that is 500-1000 miles distance, which is where this excells.
Iirc, The top speed of 760 mph was based on pressure = 150k feet altitude. They are going over 200,000 feet, which should allow for faster speeds.
It is already cheaper and safer than any HST out there.
Probably not. It will be switching esp if done at high speeds.
it IS a requirement.
Our gov under W and then O, and now Trump, have not enforced it.
In fact, we need to get rid of all H1Bs.
In addition, divide the number of green cards by 10, and use that.
The reason is that majority of H1B is being used to replace Americans, not supplement us, AND, Green Cards will stay while about 50% of H1Bs convert.
Seriously, rather than doing H1Bs, it should be green cards and should based on corporate needs.
Also, the hire should be required to ONLY work INSIDE of that company. IOW, they can not be contracted out.
Finally, the green card holder should not be allowed to contract for the first 5 years that they are here.
U know, since you are so certain that Tesla M3 is a disaster, u should not only SHORT Tesla stock, but also consider buying something like a new MB S class. You will really teach musk a lesson that you are smarter than he is.
And yet, it is a superior vehicle to bmw 3/4 series, along with Audi A4s, most of MB c class, most of lexus, all of which compete against M3.
False. The number of shorts orders is actually small. The difference is that these orders are massive. Most have been placed by oil and car companies, along with ppl like kock Bros who stand to lose 10s of billions when oil and car companies stock plummet.
what you are saying about ROI would be true if applied to Tesla at this moment.
BUT, SpaceX is a WHOLE other issue. Other than employees, the ONLY ones that can buy the stock are a number of billionaires and a few millionaire friends of Musk. And they continue to buy that stock.
Do you think that they are part of a cult? I do not. I think that they are SMART businessmen who KNOW where SpaceX is going and what it will be worth down the road. The fact that YOU DO NOT would indicate that you are not billionaire and more importantly, will never even be a millionaire since you would rather troll here than ask questions about spacex.
If NSA catches somebody being a traitor, then I DEMAND that they do their job and track them, while turning over information to FBI, trump, etc.
The last thing I want is more traitors here. We already have the Russians and CHinese trying hard to destroy America. We do not need 'Americans' like manafort and trump to help them.
That NSA was watching foreign spies and top political ppl?
Or that information on traitors that were caught was turned over to the current president?
Or that supposedly that ppl in the trump admin were unmasking 'Americans' illegally?
Sorry, but I worked on the USA PATRIOT act. I saw enough to know that we have a LOT of spies here (though far more CHinese than Russians; at least back in 2006 timeframe). I also know that terrorism was a serious issue back then, and I can only assume that it remains that way today.
WIth that said, I will have to say that if the NSA was doing any illegal spying on Trump's ppl, that I would be upset.
However, by the same token, I would be equally upset if the NSA was listening in on the Russians (or chinese, etc) and found traitors amongst our midst and did allowed them to remain just because they were Americans.
After all, would you expect NSA to NOT listen in on American terrorist?
Imagine if the NSA had caught Nidal Hasan, contacted a KNOWN terrorist in Pakistan. Are you suggesting that NSA and the intelligence world should overlook it because he is AMerican and a major in the USA?
How about if the NSA had been monitoring a KNOWN terroists in Chechnya, and caught either 1 or both of Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnev connecting them?
If they are NOT allowed to extend their investigations of the terrorists, then how exactly do you think that we will stop them? Likewise, why bother having NSA if they can not turn over these issues to those that can deal with it?
All in all, USA PATRIOT gives DIRECT permission for NSA and FBI, etc to go after anybody that was found to be associated with terrorists. Where FISA would come in, is if they listen in on multiple conversation of Trump ppl talking to Russians speaking for Trump. Imagine if NSA caught Manafort or Trump Jr speaking to the Russian Ambassador (who also works for the SVR ) and says:
Mr. trump has agreed that if you will help him be president AND forgive his 3 billion that he owes Mr. Putin, that Mr. Trump will remove sanctions, and will work closer with you. In addition, he will work to destroy NATO so that you can invade western Europe and America will stay out of it.
.
At that point, if NSA wants to monitor Manafort/Trump Jr, they can without any extra legal permission.
OTOH, they have to get fisa to listen to Trump, unless they catch him talking about it with Manafort/Trump Jr.
This is what you object to?
No, it is NOT parallel construction.
That is based on the idea that the NSA is listening in to Americans. ILLEGALLY.
This situation is NOT THE CASE. The NSA was listening to the Russians, of which the majority of the capture was likely in Europe( IOW, Americans would go to Europe to escape NSA and not aware of how far we really DO listen).
In this particular case, the NSA was DOING THEIR JOBS and obtained all of this evidence LEGALLY.
The worst that has happened here is that somebody else was looking to ID the Americans that were traitors, above and beyond what the NSA was telling.
BUT, the obtaining of that evidence was very likely 100% legal AND can be used against Trump/GOP.
The real issue is that the GOP is trying desperately to deflect from what happened.
The real issue here is that NSA and other intelligence groups do NOT want to give up any more information than they have to. Snowden has a done a REAL number on us. A lot of what is done legally has been outed by him and others. We can not afford to lose all of our secrets on how we spy on Russians, Chinese, etc. So, they are only giving up information when Trump and the GOP lie to cover themselves. If all goes well, Mueller will have enough evidence soon, to enable him to go after Trump's financial information. Once that is outed, it should be obvious that he is a traitor of the worst klnd such as Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen, and John Walker, Jr.
Bullshit.
The ENTIRE intelligence world wants NOTHING to do with Trump. Even now, they refuse to directly give Trump and most of his admin, ANY intelligence on Russia because they caught him being a traitor. Hell, even those that Trump appointed act odd about how they are giving intelligence to Trump. They KNOW that he is a traitor.
This was clearly not political, but instead, finding a number of traitors in our midst that now must be dealt with. Hopefully, they will be found guilty of giving aid to the enemy and will be executed.
The officials in question had no business accessing the identities of any US person caught up in incidental collection, regardless of how bad the appearance of the alleged activity.
Total BS. What exactly do you think that the intelligence world is supposed to be doing? Nothing?
Their job is to find out what foreign nationals/spies/terrorists/etc are doing. More importantly, when they find that they are up to issues, then we can and MUST follow the trail and locate all those in AMerica that are working with them against our national interest.
In POF, it would be INSANE to have located issues like this, and then ignore them because it involved an American. When you catch somebody being a traitor at the HIGHEST LEVEL, you go after them. It is obvious that the intelligence world CAUGHT Trump and the GOP being traitors to America and you and others like you, are simply upset and will go to great lengths to justify their treason, which for all intents and purposes, makes you accomplices to treason.