No, it isn't the same. When you take GPL code and violate the license you are making the assertion that the code is yours. This is theft. I have yet to hear of someone making a claim of ownership of a work when "pirating" movies or music.
Perhaps I am mistaken and this company admitted that they were using GPL software and not releasing the code. But that is rarely, if ever, the case and it is pretty safe to assume that they were just hoping that no one would notice what they were doing as that is usually (again, if not ALWAYS) the case in these situations.
That comments such as yours, which are all noise and no content, get modded insightful speaks quite poorly for the moderators of this site.
Please learn what the GPL is before saying anything else about it, ever. I don't think you got anything right in your entire post except that you are not a lawyer.
Who was hurt? Perhaps the authors because the thieves were making a lot of money with the stolen code? There's got to be a ton of precedent for awarding damages to the owner of a copyright when someone else is illegally profiting from the sale of that copyrighted work.
Or you could get a tape converter or a car stereo with line-in, which a lot of new cars have. Unless you want to look like a tasteless ipod owner there's not much reason to buy one.
But how much of that content is common to two or more of the discs? Strip out the redundant information and the data footprint would probably be MUCH smaller than 35GB.
I'm so glad I got all those "monopoly money" jokes in over the last two weeks. I'd been hoping it'd take a little longer, good thing I didn't wait to make those jokes.
Come brothers, now it's time for a new joke. We must come up with something short and witty to taunt them for still paying prices that reflect a much lower exchange rate!
Those are definitely a good pair for second and third. But I think the top spot has got to go to miguel de icaza. I can't think of ANY better reason to hate gnome.
If you're reading this miguel, have you heard that microsoft is porting windows to c#? Get going on that kernel fork, junior!
I don't know if that would help across the board. There are a ton of Americans being raised to not even believe in science. I think they believe in math, but it's hard to tell because they don't seem to know any.
How can someone be against me doing that, when I'm paying the exact same money you are for living there, my living expenses are the same if not higher, I'm contributing to the government by paying my taxes, and I'm willing to take the job for less money?
The same reason we'd be pissed off if you went scab and crossed a union picket line. You're undercutting the power, both economic and political, of the workers of the United States. And while you might not realize it at the time, thinking that they're making a pretty nice chunk of change, you're undercutting yourself as well since you just lowered the level of that position.
Of course a few people here and there isn't that big of a problem, but when it's a lot that puts a lot of downward pressure on the prevailing wage for that position. There is basically only one argument in support of large numbers of H1B workers that is not related to paying them less, and that is that there simply aren't enough trained people here to do it. If that were true then these H1Bs should be making the same money that current resident would make in the same position. This doesn't seem to be the case and gives the lie to that argument.
I've really got to ask who is racist in this situation, the one who thinks that it's just fine and dandy for rich white Americans to import brown people from all over the world because they can pay them less or those of us who think that if the job can be done domestically then it should be and if not then whoever is imported to do it should make the same as if they were native? Because your proposition seems pretty fucking "racist" to me.
Perhaps I'm being obtuse - would someone mind explaining me why a paraguayan person immigrating here, living here, paying his taxes, and asking equal or less than a local person, with similar qualifications, is less fit for the job?
No reason, but you're the asshole saying he should make less money.
A little disclaimer, I only read the beginning and end of your post because skimming the middle seemed to be filled with the same sort of quasi-libertarian, "why can't I fuck myself over if I want to" bullshit, and I'll go out on a limb here and assume more attempted race baiting. Too bad, because it seemed like you were on domestic workers choosing to work for less than their colleagues in the same positions and I could have brought up all the examples, that I'm sure you would approve of wholeheartedly, like women and black men who are already "choosing" to do this.
So you're saying that either no one on slashdot works for a company that owes its greatness to one man (or at least not everyone in the world knows it) or that they are that one man?
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Oh snap! I should sell my copy.
What does any of this have to do with "working with windows?"
His forefathers might have been Confederates, you insensitive clod!
Install Linux on them, too.
No, it isn't the same. When you take GPL code and violate the license you are making the assertion that the code is yours. This is theft. I have yet to hear of someone making a claim of ownership of a work when "pirating" movies or music.
Perhaps I am mistaken and this company admitted that they were using GPL software and not releasing the code. But that is rarely, if ever, the case and it is pretty safe to assume that they were just hoping that no one would notice what they were doing as that is usually (again, if not ALWAYS) the case in these situations.
That comments such as yours, which are all noise and no content, get modded insightful speaks quite poorly for the moderators of this site.
Please learn what the GPL is before saying anything else about it, ever. I don't think you got anything right in your entire post except that you are not a lawyer.
Who was hurt? Perhaps the authors because the thieves were making a lot of money with the stolen code? There's got to be a ton of precedent for awarding damages to the owner of a copyright when someone else is illegally profiting from the sale of that copyrighted work.
I can't imagine you'd need a lot of spreadsheets at McDonald's.
Never attribute to incompetence what can be adequately explained by malice.
Can we move on now? It's completely possible to point out that microsoft is capable of extreme incompetence without repeating this nonsense.
Well, who else gives money to apple?
No they have not. They have switched to "Canadian goods are still priced at the former exchange rate" jokes.
Or you could get a tape converter or a car stereo with line-in, which a lot of new cars have. Unless you want to look like a tasteless ipod owner there's not much reason to buy one.
Or the writer is just sloppy and has poor command of grammar. You see that sometimes on Wikipedia, too.
The way console RPGs have been going lately you'll probably get bored with it before finishing the first disc anyway so no swap will even be required.
But how much of that content is common to two or more of the discs? Strip out the redundant information and the data footprint would probably be MUCH smaller than 35GB.
Well isn't that exactly what xbox fanboys not only expect but want? They seem to have loved their 4 year cycle last time.
Does anyone else think it's kind of funny that microsoft can churn out a new console faster than a new version of windows?
I'm so glad I got all those "monopoly money" jokes in over the last two weeks. I'd been hoping it'd take a little longer, good thing I didn't wait to make those jokes.
Come brothers, now it's time for a new joke. We must come up with something short and witty to taunt them for still paying prices that reflect a much lower exchange rate!
Gnome makes sure the apps aren't squandering resources and making the computer work more than it has to, sucking less power.
If it actually does that it is very likely the only instance where one can realistically use "gnome" and "sucking less" in the same sentence.
Those are definitely a good pair for second and third. But I think the top spot has got to go to miguel de icaza. I can't think of ANY better reason to hate gnome.
If you're reading this miguel, have you heard that microsoft is porting windows to c#? Get going on that kernel fork, junior!
I don't know if that would help across the board. There are a ton of Americans being raised to not even believe in science. I think they believe in math, but it's hard to tell because they don't seem to know any.
How can someone be against me doing that, when I'm paying the exact same money you are for living there, my living expenses are the same if not higher, I'm contributing to the government by paying my taxes, and I'm willing to take the job for less money?
The same reason we'd be pissed off if you went scab and crossed a union picket line. You're undercutting the power, both economic and political, of the workers of the United States. And while you might not realize it at the time, thinking that they're making a pretty nice chunk of change, you're undercutting yourself as well since you just lowered the level of that position.
Of course a few people here and there isn't that big of a problem, but when it's a lot that puts a lot of downward pressure on the prevailing wage for that position. There is basically only one argument in support of large numbers of H1B workers that is not related to paying them less, and that is that there simply aren't enough trained people here to do it. If that were true then these H1Bs should be making the same money that current resident would make in the same position. This doesn't seem to be the case and gives the lie to that argument.
I've really got to ask who is racist in this situation, the one who thinks that it's just fine and dandy for rich white Americans to import brown people from all over the world because they can pay them less or those of us who think that if the job can be done domestically then it should be and if not then whoever is imported to do it should make the same as if they were native? Because your proposition seems pretty fucking "racist" to me.
Perhaps I'm being obtuse - would someone mind explaining me why a paraguayan person immigrating here, living here, paying his taxes, and asking equal or less than a local person, with similar qualifications, is less fit for the job?
No reason, but you're the asshole saying he should make less money.
A little disclaimer, I only read the beginning and end of your post because skimming the middle seemed to be filled with the same sort of quasi-libertarian, "why can't I fuck myself over if I want to" bullshit, and I'll go out on a limb here and assume more attempted race baiting. Too bad, because it seemed like you were on domestic workers choosing to work for less than their colleagues in the same positions and I could have brought up all the examples, that I'm sure you would approve of wholeheartedly, like women and black men who are already "choosing" to do this.
So you're saying that either no one on slashdot works for a company that owes its greatness to one man (or at least not everyone in the world knows it) or that they are that one man?
Fact is is "faith" was used theologically after 32 years after it was first used and 50 years went by before being used in religion.
This sentence isn't even readable, try again. And while you're working on that hit up your dictionary for "context."
Hey, where's miguel de icaza? I hear microsoft is porting windows to c#. Get cracking on that Linux c# fork, little buddy!
I just want a Panzer Dragoon for Wii.