hey man, 64-bit is great, but it's the speed that counts in the end. I had an Ultra 5 workstation for 2 years (I think it was a 266-Mhz processor), and it was sloooow. My Celeron-366 was 10 times faster running certain applications (Mostly Gnome apps).
In 25 years, I'll still be carrying cash around in my wallet, probably along with some whizbang enhanced ATM card. But the hype is still the same as it was 20 years ago.
I'm having a revelation (I'm only 29): Getting older means you you remember the last time someone talked about the "new" technology that all the younger people are talking about today.
Video phones? Bah.
Computers will reduce your workload... lies, lies I say!
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To be 100% honest, I can't even remember the last time I was in a store that didn't take plastic.
In the Bay Area, I find that some of the smaller hole-in-the-wall resturants and several of the larger produce stores don't take plastic. The food at the resturants is good, and the ATM is nearby, so I keep going.
Some large places that don't take plastic: Zachary's Pizza in Oakland and Berkeley, Monterey Produce Market in Berkeley. Thousands of people go through each place every week, and the owner's attitude is "Plastic is a hassle, and 5% of purchases are fradulent, therefore I don't bother."
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Where does this Slashdot obsession with a cashless/e-gold/alternative currency come from?
Money has been around for 3200 years. Trade "I'll give you 2 sheep for one cow" has been around for thousands more.
I remember hearing these "cashless society" arguments in 1980. I look in my wallet 23 years later, and I still have a wad of cash in there, along with a credit card and ATM card. Sure, much of my purchasing is electronic, but it's far from cashless.
Now people are again saying "We'll be a cashless society in 25 years", and I still don't believe them. I've heard it before.
It reminds me of the "computers will solve all your paperwork problems. We will be a paperless society in 25 years." Cash is not going away anytime soon just because some money-geeks think they found an alternative.
As Ivanova from Babylon 5 said: "Every time somebody says we're coming into a paperless society, I get 10 more forms to fill out."
Good? Pud has a very seedy reputation. He's a slimy opportunist who provides a useful service. He runs a rumor site where bitter workers vent their anger. Take everything you read with a big grain of salt.
But regardless, the trust of Pud has nothing to do with this. Is he a Java expert? No.
Is he an expert on internal Sun politics? No.
He just runs a website: People post things to his website, and if he likes them, he will post them to internalmemos.com or fuckedcompany.com or some other related site.
I think these extra features are fine, as long as they don't clutter the interface, and don't happen automatically.
I just want to finish my resume without MS Word randomly assigning 17 different text styles. This line is "Heading 1", next heading line is "Heading 7"... they look the same, but behave differently.
I've turned off every single friggen "autoformat" feature I can find, but Word still wants to indent, autobullet and boldify the damn text after I hit return.
How about launching 100 rockets each with 100 pounds of cargo for 10,000 pound lift capability. A solution like this would NEVER be done by NASA.
With good reason. I think the economy of scale would prevent this from being anywhere close to a practical solution.
Hey, if GM wants to go to space, nobody is stopping them. But I don't see private companies jumping at this opportunity, probably because going to space requires the budget of a large nation.
No, it costs NASA -- a bloated, unbelievably inefficient organization that has absolutely no vision to radically reduce costs -- that much to launch payloads.
Agreed. I think we should have companies such as Enron, Worldcom or Tyco perform the duties of NASA. They would be much more efficient.
My non-computer-literate godmother just bought one of these $800 eMacs for her 10 year old daughter.
It's perfect for her: It's got MS Office & Claris(?) Office for writing papers, a DVD player for watching movies, and her mom can go out and get some decent educational software at a variety of computer stores.
They have a DSL connection and one Power Mac already. We went out and bought a LinkSys Cable/DSL router for $50 at CompUSA, came home, fiddled with some ethernet wire, changed some settings, and boom: Two computers, a networked house, & shared printers.
Running these things on Linux just isn't practical for a 10 year old with an artist Mom. They have better things to do then download and install new libraries to get Gnome2.2 to compile.
Now that I did the initial setup for them, I'm quite confident that my godmother and godsister can deal with 95% of their computer problems without my help.
Look, I'm a big Linux fan, and have been using RH & Debian for about 5 years, but throwing any Linux on a cheap PC and expecting my godmother do simple things like hook up her Palm organizer or installing updates is unrealistic.
I know many Sun users who liked CDE because it was stable as a rock.
Gnome 2.2 is great, but it's not stable. I used Gnome1.2 and 1.4 (Vanilla and Ximian) on a Sun workstation for almost 2 years, and was really annoyed by stability and memory leakage.
Sun really shouldn't release Gnome2.2 until it's gone through a trial-testing period, and after several patches have been released.
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hey man, 64-bit is great, but it's the speed that counts in the end. I had an Ultra 5 workstation for 2 years (I think it was a 266-Mhz processor), and it was sloooow. My Celeron-366 was 10 times faster running certain applications (Mostly Gnome apps).
:)
But in the end, it's a joke... laugh
If you were running Mozilla, you could turn that Ad into a big, blank box instead.
I got an Ultra 5 for $30
Hey man, $30 is alot of money for a paperweight!
*ducks*
unusually high percentage of false blondes in the marina district.
And there are many studly men in that neighborhood, all dressed with the latest trend.
I was a geek in the Presidio for 3 years. We liked to call those people Calvin Clones.
Hrm, I think you missed my point.
In 25 years, I'll still be carrying cash around in my wallet, probably along with some whizbang enhanced ATM card. But the hype is still the same as it was 20 years ago.
I'm having a revelation (I'm only 29): Getting older means you you remember the last time someone talked about the "new" technology that all the younger people are talking about today.
Video phones? Bah.
Computers will reduce your workload... lies, lies I say!
Cashless society? Yeah right.
Here's a reference which says the rumor is true.
And I tend to believe Snopes.
To be 100% honest, I can't even remember the last time I was in a store that didn't take plastic.
In the Bay Area, I find that some of the smaller hole-in-the-wall resturants and several of the larger produce stores don't take plastic. The food at the resturants is good, and the ATM is nearby, so I keep going.
Some large places that don't take plastic: Zachary's Pizza in Oakland and Berkeley, Monterey Produce Market in Berkeley. Thousands of people go through each place every week, and the owner's attitude is "Plastic is a hassle, and 5% of purchases are fradulent, therefore I don't bother."
Where does this Slashdot obsession with a cashless/e-gold/alternative currency come from?
Money has been around for 3200 years. Trade "I'll give you 2 sheep for one cow" has been around for thousands more.
I remember hearing these "cashless society" arguments in 1980. I look in my wallet 23 years later, and I still have a wad of cash in there, along with a credit card and ATM card. Sure, much of my purchasing is electronic, but it's far from cashless.
Now people are again saying "We'll be a cashless society in 25 years", and I still don't believe them. I've heard it before.
It reminds me of the "computers will solve all your paperwork problems. We will be a paperless society in 25 years." Cash is not going away anytime soon just because some money-geeks think they found an alternative.
As Ivanova from Babylon 5 said:
"Every time somebody says we're coming into a paperless society, I get 10 more forms to fill out."
Pud has a good reputation.
Good? Pud has a very seedy reputation. He's a slimy opportunist who provides a useful service. He runs a rumor site where bitter workers vent their anger. Take everything you read with a big grain of salt.
But regardless, the trust of Pud has nothing to do with this. Is he a Java expert? No.
Is he an expert on internal Sun politics? No.
He just runs a website: People post things to his website, and if he likes them, he will post them to internalmemos.com or fuckedcompany.com or some other related site.
It'a rumor mill.
What is this "timecard" that you speak of?
Salary = No hours, no overtime. Just get the work done.
I get paid the same if I work a 30 hour week or a 70 hour week. If it's the latter, you'll be damn sure that I will be taking many breaks.
How long before you discover the trojans on your Solaris-from-Gnutella?
Now it just makes it sound like a group of 16 year old HS students.
Vs. a 19 and 20 year old HS student, like these two losers.
I think these extra features are fine, as long as they don't clutter the interface, and don't happen automatically.
I just want to finish my resume without MS Word randomly assigning 17 different text styles. This line is "Heading 1", next heading line is "Heading 7"... they look the same, but behave differently.
I've turned off every single friggen "autoformat" feature I can find, but Word still wants to indent, autobullet and boldify the damn text after I hit return.
Bah! Nonintuitive useless hidden features.
And afterwards, he can hold the piece of paper up to a computer screen, hoping that it will somehow get absorbed into the internet.
The burden is on you, the student, not on the netadmin, to demonstrate how AIM makes you more productive in the middle of class.
Otherwise, AIM is a distraction like passing around a porn mag in the back of class.
Gee whiz John, you've designed thousands of rocket launchers in Quake and Doom, why not use the power of these devices to get you into space.
:)
Duh!
How about launching 100 rockets each with 100 pounds of cargo for 10,000 pound lift capability. A solution like this would NEVER be done by NASA.
With good reason. I think the economy of scale would prevent this from being anywhere close to a practical solution.
Hey, if GM wants to go to space, nobody is stopping them. But I don't see private companies jumping at this opportunity, probably because going to space requires the budget of a large nation.
No, it costs NASA -- a bloated, unbelievably inefficient organization that has absolutely no vision to radically reduce costs -- that much to launch payloads.
Agreed. I think we should have companies such as Enron, Worldcom or Tyco perform the duties of NASA. They would be much more efficient.
When I say "Christopher Columbus" do you think "European who discovered America"[1], or do you think "New sail technology"?
Walking on the new world was cool, but how did it change your daily life?
[1] Or "European who led to a massive wave of immigration" or some other explanation.
I think of smashing my head on a rock when I use CDE.
Sun was pretty slow when patching CDE. Let's hope things get better now that they are using an OSS solution.
My non-computer-literate godmother just bought one of these $800 eMacs for her 10 year old daughter.
It's perfect for her: It's got MS Office & Claris(?) Office for writing papers, a DVD player for watching movies, and her mom can go out and get some decent educational software at a variety of computer stores.
They have a DSL connection and one Power Mac already. We went out and bought a LinkSys Cable/DSL router for $50 at CompUSA, came home, fiddled with some ethernet wire, changed some settings, and boom: Two computers, a networked house, & shared printers.
Running these things on Linux just isn't practical for a 10 year old with an artist Mom. They have better things to do then download and install new libraries to get Gnome2.2 to compile.
Now that I did the initial setup for them, I'm quite confident that my godmother and godsister can deal with 95% of their computer problems without my help.
Look, I'm a big Linux fan, and have been using RH & Debian for about 5 years, but throwing any Linux on a cheap PC and expecting my godmother do simple things like hook up her Palm organizer or installing updates is unrealistic.
I was mostly replying to the AC :)
You're right. Running Gnome on a intranet box is probably an acceptable tradeoff.
Perhaps there's a webproxy cache in between you and Sun?
The webpage changed sometime this morning.
Using X is really the only way to make a Sun machine usable at the local interface.
I can see your users cringing every time you bring up an xterm on the local machine.
If you're running Apache/MySQL/PHP, you shouldn't need to see the console very often. Connect remotely using SSH.
I'll say it again, X has no place on a production machine. It's acceptable, but form for a development machine.
For security and stability, you should run the minumum set of tools needed to run the system. X is many wonderful things, but it is not minimal.
I know many Sun users who liked CDE because it was stable as a rock.
Gnome 2.2 is great, but it's not stable. I used Gnome1.2 and 1.4 (Vanilla and Ximian) on a Sun workstation for almost 2 years, and was really annoyed by stability and memory leakage.
Sun really shouldn't release Gnome2.2 until it's gone through a trial-testing period, and after several patches have been released.