I've been considering the RHCE (To get past the the HR People who think that it means something), but have been really turned off by the associated costs.
The RHCE is super expensive: $2500 for the "review classes" where you try to cram information into your poor brain over a 5 day period (You will lose 95% of this knowledge in less then a week), and then $700 for the tests.
I'm hoping that as RedHat expands these classes to other schools, the price of the review class may decrease, and other schedules may be offered. I'd be happy with 1-2 classes per week with 3-4 hou0rs per session for 5 weeks or so, much easier to remember that way.
Certifications like the CompTIA certs do not carry much value to techies, but may mean alot to that HR rep.
If you don't have the right alphabet soup at the top of your resume, that HR person may very well throw away your resume, even if you have years of experience.
That said, I don't have a certification, and I still don't have a job after looking since November. I'm looking into getting a RHCE and CompTIA to help me get past the HR level.
And to clarify, I'm not a software enginner. I'm a system administrator, but I keep running into people who assume that I have "10 years of Java experience" because I know how to install Apache & Tomcat...
I can build a new wall in my garage and can install new electrical wiring, therefore I must be a good corn farmer. What?!
I have been looking for a job for the last two months, and having dealt with several HR staff and recruiters, I can tell you that software engineering means you have an MCSE and can help the marketing director figure out how to get Powerpoint Presentation to "Open the internet".
It also has something to do with like.NET, Web Services and eXtreme Programming.
And did it ever occur to you that increasing profit margins = good thing?
What good is a higher profit margin to me if I loose my job?
Yay, the CEO & stockholders made a profit, but now I'm scrounging for work. Even if I owned some stock in the company, it's doubtful that the dividends would be greater then the salary lost.
The other poster mentioned the eye-candy and improved menu system, which was a big problem when vanilla Gnome 1.2 & 1.4 were released.
I haven't tried 2.0 out yet, but Ximian1.2 & 1.4 were simple to install and maintain, whereas Gnome1.2 & 1.4 still can still decend into dependancy and library hell.
I usually just use my desktop for working, and don't want to waste my time dealing with out-of-date libraries for vanilla Gnome.
(For the record: I use Gnome2 also, but it's under a different directory, and I only use it when I want to help the Gnome folks on bug day).
Right, it's the same in all industries. But my point is that if you were to change careers, your salary will drop substantially.
I remember being amazed at my first $29K techsupport job:)
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Of course, it takes a few years of experience to make it to the 65K level. Until then you'll be making much less, and will need to tune your current lifestyle down a couple of notches.
As a homeower with monthly mortgage payments, I'm not sure I could make that transition.
I thought till now that if there was a draft I would move to Canada...now I've changed my mind. Switzerland it is.
Canada doesn't want draft-dodgers. After the Vietnam war, Canada and the US signed extradition treaties which allow the US to investigate draft-dodgers and bring them back here.
Switzerland doesn't want you either. They have an overpopulation problem, and are really, really nationalistic (Think Texas, but more). As such, they make it really difficult to become a citizen.
Several times in the past, they kicked out a percentage of their popluation: Citizens got a number, the government ran a lottery, citizens who's number were picked had to leave the country. Vicious. I think the last time this happened was in the 80s.
I have a hard time believing that Swiss Citizens have voted on every single line in the law books. When Switzerland joined the UN recently, did you actually vote on that, or did some representative vote in your name,.
Not a flame, but I'm curious how it works in other countries (I got some idea when I spent a week there in June, but a week is so little time).
You're question isn't directed to me (I'm a completely biased Gnome user), but I actually think it would be a good move.
If RedHat really is composed of Gnome people, then they should drop KDE, not because KDE is an inferior product, but just because sometimes it's wisest to remove the duplication of effort and focus doing one thing well. There is already too much duplicate effort when it comes to desktops (Gnome, KDE, others) and applications (OpenOffice, Gnome Office, KOffice... etc, etc).
Sometimes it's better to drop a project then to release a project that is half-baked.
What is your response to the vulterant claims that your Gnome/KDE setup is breaking QT apps and causing havoc for developers who make use of QT?
(...)
Anyway, Hogan says, the breakage is only in Red Hat 8.0's default hybrid Gnome/KDE Bluecurve desktop, but "if you just run KDE, not Bluecurve, there are no problems."
Eep! If the default settings are broken, and 80% of users use the default settings, then there is no 'only' about it.
"Sure, the tires will burst of you drive faster then 50mph, but that only happens when you use the default tires that come with the truck."
'only' is a word when you talk about a minority of people, as in, "it only breaks for KDE users who use Sawfish as their window manager".
Or maybe this [diagnosis2012.co.uk] will. Don't blame me for the background image.
Thanks for the laugh. I like this "fact":
14. MAGNETIC ANOMALIES: Magnetic effects can be seen in some formations using a compass, which can deviate several degrees from true North. If a magnet is dragged round the formation, there will sometimes be iron particles found sticking to it.
Hello? Magnetic compases point to Magnetic North, not True North, so they will "deviate several degrees" just about everywhere in the world.
Iron particles, in the ground. Big whoop. Not very suprising, considering that iron is one of the most common elements in the world. I have a large magnet with 100-lb of lifting power through the dirt to see what's there. Guess what, I usually end up with little particles of magnetic material.
Like "strange energy disturbances" - you don't have to play dumb - you can figure out what it means.
"Strange energy disturbance" is too vague a term to mean anything specific.
"strange" is a subjective term, and can mean anything. The color blue is strange to some people.
"Energy disturbances" happen all the time. I just slammed my hand on the table. Gosh, there's an energy disturbance. I'm reading your message on my strange energy disturbing monitor.
You want credibility? Say something objective, with precision, like "The temperature rose by 5C 1 day before the crop circle appeared", or even something simple like "My compass spun around wildly".
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Gargnome will install to your home directory just fine.
However, it needs more then 100megs. You might be able to squeeze out some unnecessary files, but Gnome without the addons isn't really Gnome.
Er... are you sure that you want to run X on a web server?
I've been considering the RHCE (To get past the the HR People who think that it means something), but have been really turned off by the associated costs.
The RHCE is super expensive: $2500 for the "review classes" where you try to cram information into your poor brain over a 5 day period (You will lose 95% of this knowledge in less then a week), and then $700 for the tests.
I'm hoping that as RedHat expands these classes to other schools, the price of the review class may decrease, and other schedules may be offered. I'd be happy with 1-2 classes per week with 3-4 hou0rs per session for 5 weeks or so, much easier to remember that way.
Certifications like the CompTIA certs do not carry much value to techies, but may mean alot to that HR rep.
If you don't have the right alphabet soup at the top of your resume, that HR person may very well throw away your resume, even if you have years of experience.
That said, I don't have a certification, and I still don't have a job after looking since November. I'm looking into getting a RHCE and CompTIA to help me get past the HR level.
Whoa! 1913! That must have been a way early version of the Players Handbook!
not to be a troll, but isn't it TPS report?
Bah! You're not a geek, you're a manager! You're not alowed in here! GET OUT! GET OUUUUUUUUUT!
And to clarify, I'm not a software enginner. I'm a system administrator, but I keep running into people who assume that I have "10 years of Java experience" because I know how to install Apache & Tomcat...
I can build a new wall in my garage and can install new electrical wiring, therefore I must be a good corn farmer. What?!
I have been looking for a job for the last two months, and having dealt with several HR staff and recruiters, I can tell you that software engineering means you have an MCSE and can help the marketing director figure out how to get Powerpoint Presentation to "Open the internet".
.NET, Web Services and eXtreme Programming.
It also has something to do with like
So in otherwords, they don't care about my well being, and I should suck up
One reason to protect myself and help get myself into a position of power like these ultra-rich folks is to join a trade union. Power in numbers.
And did it ever occur to you that increasing profit margins = good thing?
What good is a higher profit margin to me if I loose my job?
Yay, the CEO & stockholders made a profit, but now I'm scrounging for work. Even if I owned some stock in the company, it's doubtful that the dividends would be greater then the salary lost.
The other poster mentioned the eye-candy and improved menu system, which was a big problem when vanilla Gnome 1.2 & 1.4 were released.
I haven't tried 2.0 out yet, but Ximian1.2 & 1.4 were simple to install and maintain, whereas Gnome1.2 & 1.4 still can still decend into dependancy and library hell.
I usually just use my desktop for working, and don't want to waste my time dealing with out-of-date libraries for vanilla Gnome.
(For the record: I use Gnome2 also, but it's under a different directory, and I only use it when I want to help the Gnome folks on bug day).
Because the CD's contain either unstable or out-of-state software?
The Preview CD that Sun released last year is way out of date. The packages available via RedCarpet are as up-to-date as 1.4 can be.
The Preview CD available now contain Gnome 2 beta 3. I need to use my work machine for work, not for testing beta software.
Yes, I hear the MPAA is going to fine Timothy for duplicating a story which mentions "VHS".
I mean, if the subject matter involves "Duplicate" and "VHS", you figure a law got broken somewhere.
Right, it's the same in all industries. But my point is that if you were to change careers, your salary will drop substantially.
:)
I remember being amazed at my first $29K techsupport job
Of course, it takes a few years of experience to make it to the 65K level. Until then you'll be making much less, and will need to tune your current lifestyle down a couple of notches.
As a homeower with monthly mortgage payments, I'm not sure I could make that transition.
CmdrTaco: Describe in single words. Only the good things that come into your mind. About CowboyNeal.
... I'll tell you about CowboyNeal.
Me: CowboyNeal,
I thought till now that if there was a draft I would move to Canada...now I've changed my mind. Switzerland it is.
Canada doesn't want draft-dodgers. After the Vietnam war, Canada and the US signed extradition treaties which allow the US to investigate draft-dodgers and bring them back here.
Switzerland doesn't want you either. They have an overpopulation problem, and are really, really nationalistic (Think Texas, but more). As such, they make it really difficult to become a citizen.
Several times in the past, they kicked out a percentage of their popluation: Citizens got a number, the government ran a lottery, citizens who's number were picked had to leave the country. Vicious. I think the last time this happened was in the 80s.
Do you legislators ever vote for you?
I have a hard time believing that Swiss Citizens have voted on every single line in the law books. When Switzerland joined the UN recently, did you actually vote on that, or did some representative vote in your name,.
Not a flame, but I'm curious how it works in other countries (I got some idea when I spent a week there in June, but a week is so little time).
RedHat was founded in 1994.
You're question isn't directed to me (I'm a completely biased Gnome user), but I actually think it would be a good move.
If RedHat really is composed of Gnome people, then they should drop KDE, not because KDE is an inferior product, but just because sometimes it's wisest to remove the duplication of effort and focus doing one thing well. There is already too much duplicate effort when it comes to desktops (Gnome, KDE, others) and applications (OpenOffice, Gnome Office, KOffice... etc, etc).
Sometimes it's better to drop a project then to release a project that is half-baked.
What is your response to the vulterant claims that your Gnome/KDE setup is breaking QT apps and causing havoc for developers who make use of QT?
(...)
Anyway, Hogan says, the breakage is only in Red Hat 8.0's default hybrid Gnome/KDE Bluecurve desktop, but "if you just run KDE, not Bluecurve, there are no problems."
Eep! If the default settings are broken, and 80% of users use the default settings, then there is no 'only' about it.
"Sure, the tires will burst of you drive faster then 50mph, but that only happens when you use the default tires that come with the truck."
'only' is a word when you talk about a minority of people, as in, "it only breaks for KDE users who use Sawfish as their window manager".
Or maybe this [diagnosis2012.co.uk] will. Don't blame me for the background image.
Thanks for the laugh. I like this "fact":
14. MAGNETIC ANOMALIES: Magnetic effects can be seen in some formations using a compass, which can deviate several degrees from true North. If a magnet is dragged round the formation, there will sometimes be iron particles found sticking to it.
Hello? Magnetic compases point to Magnetic North, not True North, so they will "deviate several degrees" just about everywhere in the world.
Iron particles, in the ground. Big whoop. Not very suprising, considering that iron is one of the most common elements in the world. I have a large magnet with 100-lb of lifting power through the dirt to see what's there. Guess what, I usually end up with little particles of magnetic material.
Like "strange energy disturbances" - you don't have to play dumb - you can figure out what it means.
"Strange energy disturbance" is too vague a term to mean anything specific.
"strange" is a subjective term, and can mean anything. The color blue is strange to some people.
"Energy disturbances" happen all the time. I just slammed my hand on the table. Gosh, there's an energy disturbance. I'm reading your message on my strange energy disturbing monitor.
You want credibility? Say something objective, with precision, like "The temperature rose by 5C 1 day before the crop circle appeared", or even something simple like "My compass spun around wildly".
If a vendor is reduced to using boothbabes, it's because they have no confidence in their own product.
In order to receive that free subscription, you'd need to provide a mailing address or PO Box.
Once the military tracks you down, I'm not sure they'd let you read 2600 in prison...