That was it. Gate.net. I couldn't remember the name. That was before I knew anything though, and if you had said slirp to me, I would have given you a funny look. I had a vague understanding that there were computers out there that didn't run DOS and MacOS, but I had never seen one.
Good point. I completely ignored the fact that win3.1 isn't a typical multitasking OS and it has no idle process. I was just throwing out old OS (yeah, win3.1 is a GUI, DOS is the OS, whatever) names because they use less CPU.
I think you're grasping at straws here. Yeah, I suppose a processor's life would be shortened by constant use, but it's JOB is to be able to compute. I'd be more worried about propper cooling inside the case and specifically on the chip, and not running the chip above specifications.
If you're that worried about it, you may as well be running the OS with the LEAST processor usage. If you run windows, that probably means running windows 95 or 3.1. Is it that important? I don't think you'd get much more life out of a processor by doing this.
By the time the processor dies from overwork, you could replace it for a few dollars. Pentium and P2 chips are $20. You can get a new Duron chip for $40. I have some Pentium's and P2's that used to run linux and Distributed net non-stop. They are still working. They are just not in use because I have faster equipment.
I was then (as now) known as Acid Rain, and I ran After Shock. I can't remember the years, but I still have the files around somewhere and could pull them up. I was on SID and a million other boards, most of which I've forgotten. I wasn't there for the 305-407 split, but I was on BBSes well before the 407-561 split. I was too yound to drink beer when I actually had an acct on Fli-net.
shudder. CGA. My first x86 machine was a 10mhz 286 PS1 with a 30 meg HD. Top-o-the-line baby. Stunning VGA graphics. 2400 bps modem (although I think 9600 were out by then).
I think someone noted that you store a new array for each type of piece, and an 8*8 board, @ 1 bit per position is 64 bits. I don't quite understand it myself. I suppose you would have each 8x8 board assume the piece is in the middle of the board and show all the possible moves from THAT position, and just move it around the board to see what is possible. ie, the queen's matrix would look sort of like an asterik (an 8 starred one) originating from the middle of the board, and if the queen is in a corner, you just move the star, but then you have the problem of extending the diagonal move to the other corner, because the diagonal wasn't that long on the original matrix. And you'd probably need a special matrix for pawns, because pawns move one way and capture another. And another one for rooks and kings for castling moves. Damn. Chess is just one big special-case nightmare pit.
nononono, read it again, I said I was on prodigy BEFORE they added internet service. I was on the prodigy forums, where only prodigy users could connect to. This back when most games were EGA, maybe VGA if it was real cutting edge. I was on a BBS while the internet was still ramping up, and then around 93-94 I got on the internet when it became available near me. I think there was net access in the Palm Beach Fl area before that, but it was all just shell access, not PPP or SLIP.
I am an ex-prodigy user. I used it on my first PC back in 1989, way before it was easy to get true 'net access. This was before Prodigy tried to get on the web. It had some fun games at the time, and the boards were OK. I was only on it for a short time until I discovered BBSes, and eventually sysoped my own. Around 94 a company came to my area with true net access, and I got on that for 2 years before going to college and getting a degree in CS.
Prodigy is still alive today, it has been assimilated into the SBC network, which I work for. I don't know much about it, but from what I can tell, they eventually became an all-net company. Now it is part of SBC-Yahoo.
And the fact that they don't have enough inbound lines doesn't count for anything?
I don't care about the bells & whistles. My mother has AOL, and when I am at her house, I can minimize the shitty AOL environment and just use IE. Normal net apps work fine.
There is only one input for power on the CD-Rom drive, how do you expect it to feedback into the other PSU?
To better answer your question, I have a Dual P2 running linux as a file server. It has 3 9 gig SCSI drives connected to it, but they are so damn huge (full height) that I had to bolt them all together with sheet metal and sit them outside the dual p2's case. Not to mention the huge amount of power they suck down, and the huge amount of heat and noise they generate. (You thought a 7200 RPM was loud. You should her some old 10 platter 4500's!)
Anyway.... the 3 SCSI drives are all powered off an old AT power supply. The Dual P2's run off an ATX. You can do this. There is nothing wrong with it. As long as you turn on the drives before the PSU running the motherboard, you can run as many PSU's as you can handle. In fact, I even have my linux box hooked up in such a way that as long as I umount the drives and remove them from the Linux SCSI tables, I can power down the drives independant of the CPU and power it up and re-add them when I want to use them.
see http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/58/2000/2/0/3 373055/ if you have no idea what I mean by removing SCSI devices from the scsi tables.
Speaking of which, does anyone know how linux maps the devices by lun, SCSI ID, host etc to the device names like sda, sdb etc? It would make m job easier if I could say "get the ID:HOST:LUN etc for drive/dev/sdb and remove it from the system"
When I still worked at UCF (about a year and a half ago) I had to put all the programs on the lab machines for the psychology department. They had several programs written in BASIC, that they used for college level courses. I was too lazy/involved with other things to port them to a normal language.
Personally, I'd say a floppy drive. I also have a 1993 Sportster 14.4 that I still use because it's my only fax machine. My desktop doesnt' have a modem in it, and getting a fax to work properly on an Alpha Linux machine is more pain than I'm willing to put up with. External Serial 14.4 is easy to hook up to my desktop win2k machine and unplug when I'm not using it (most of the time, like when I'm not sending out resumes).
I don't know how old the floppy drive is, but since all floppy drives nowadays have the same featureset (1.44 MB high density) you could say I've had the same piece of equipment since my first x86 computer that had a HD floppy drive, around 1989 or so.
Before that, my only computer was a C64, which I still have (gutted, I am going to mount a P2 in the casing). I didn't learn very much on the c64, so I don't have all the cool old equipment for it. Just the base unit and some games and joysticks.
I just remembered the oldest thing I had! I took an unused IBM XT case (what is that? Like 82 or 83?) and put an AMD Athlon in it. So the case is 20 years old, and as far as electronics go, I'm using the original 5.25 drive faceplates with LED's on the new machine. So the LED's are the oldest ELECTRONIC thing. The PSU fan says it was made in early 1983, so 20+ years ago.
"Theory is when eveything is known and nothing works. Practice is when everything works and nobody knows why. At Microsoft, theory and practice are united: nothing works and nobody knows why"
from an instant message quote from my supervisors at work, who got it from somewhere else.
I have an older 15" monitor that I use as a secondary to my 17". The 15" is on a KVM btwn my Linux Alpha server and the secondary win2k monitor. I don't use the 2nd desktop in win for too much. Winamp mostly. I haven't done too much coding in a long time, so I haven't used it for a debugger yet. It's nice to be able to have a linux box on a KVM so I can have both screen up at the same time, yet still be able to go multimonitor. The server has no use for multimonitor, most of my work is done on the win2k machine anyway.
You're going to have to format them at the end of the year anyways, after the kids are done with them, may as well put Windows 98 on it, and it will start to get horribly unstable right around the time a new class is going to use them.
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Acid, you go to UCF?
Graduated class of '02 in Computer Science. Which is why I'm out of the loop on the changes to the competition.
most people don't rip CDs at work, and most home machines have autorun enabled.
When I say most home machines, I don't mean NEW Macs, I mean MOST HOME MACHINES which means windows 95-ME, and some 2k and XP machines, along with OS8-9.
It's war. SCO declared it, and is actively on the attack. They intend to vanquish their enemies... us. To win this war, you defeat them, crush them... DESTROY them.
I saw a motorized surfboard when I was like 6 years old. That was about 19 years ago. Granted, it wasn't NEARLY as sexy as this one. The one I saw was a fairly big box on the back of a surfboard. The one in the article actually LOOKS like a surfboard, maybe a little thicker in the middle.
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I just looked up some info, from the website:
"Last year students set the Reflecting Pond afire and accidentally launched a potato at the Library. That brings a ban on pyrotechnics this year. However, Eaglin expects the competition to be action-packed and full of surprises. "These are engineers. They come up with all sorts of things," he concludes."
http://www.news.ucf.edu/FY2001-02/020415a.html
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Not sure if they do it every year, but at UCF they have races to get potatoes to the other side of the reflection pond. Using engineered stuff. You get lots of remote control boats, high-speed winches, and ziplines. It's a difficult competition because it is a semi-circular pond, you have to go out to the middle, around the fountain, and back to the other side (think of a line dissecting a circle, you start on one radius and end on the other). Check www.ucf.edu for pics of the fountain.
One group decided to use a cannon. Not quite as big as the one in the article, but close. Maybe 6-8". They stuff the potato in something (didnt' get a close look at it), shoved it down the tube with a string on one end, fired it off, and then reeled it back in with an electric motor. They let them fire it off a second time just to hear the boom:)
Another group had some wierd contraption with PVC tubes with holes drilled at intervals that sat in the water. They had a bunch of gasoline or kerosene or some flamable liquid that they poured in teh thing and lit it on fire. I asked them what it was supposed to do, they just said they wanted to see the pond on fire. They took some casualties in other people's projects:)
ion engines won't get you off the planet. Even the ESA used a massive Arianne rocket to PUT that ship in orbit, and even then, it was a TEST run, and they said it will take 16 months for the ion engine rocket to get to the moon.
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That was it. Gate.net. I couldn't remember the name. That was before I knew anything though, and if you had said slirp to me, I would have given you a funny look. I had a vague understanding that there were computers out there that didn't run DOS and MacOS, but I had never seen one.
Good point. I completely ignored the fact that win3.1 isn't a typical multitasking OS and it has no idle process. I was just throwing out old OS (yeah, win3.1 is a GUI, DOS is the OS, whatever) names because they use less CPU.
I think you're grasping at straws here. Yeah, I suppose a processor's life would be shortened by constant use, but it's JOB is to be able to compute. I'd be more worried about propper cooling inside the case and specifically on the chip, and not running the chip above specifications.
If you're that worried about it, you may as well be running the OS with the LEAST processor usage. If you run windows, that probably means running windows 95 or 3.1. Is it that important? I don't think you'd get much more life out of a processor by doing this.
By the time the processor dies from overwork, you could replace it for a few dollars. Pentium and P2 chips are $20. You can get a new Duron chip for $40. I have some Pentium's and P2's that used to run linux and Distributed net non-stop. They are still working. They are just not in use because I have faster equipment.
I was then (as now) known as Acid Rain, and I ran After Shock. I can't remember the years, but I still have the files around somewhere and could pull them up. I was on SID and a million other boards, most of which I've forgotten. I wasn't there for the 305-407 split, but I was on BBSes well before the 407-561 split. I was too yound to drink beer when I actually had an acct on Fli-net.
shudder. CGA. My first x86 machine was a 10mhz 286 PS1 with a 30 meg HD. Top-o-the-line baby. Stunning VGA graphics. 2400 bps modem (although I think 9600 were out by then).
Which part of the PDP? I didn't know that.
I think someone noted that you store a new array for each type of piece, and an 8*8 board, @ 1 bit per position is 64 bits. I don't quite understand it myself. I suppose you would have each 8x8 board assume the piece is in the middle of the board and show all the possible moves from THAT position, and just move it around the board to see what is possible. ie, the queen's matrix would look sort of like an asterik (an 8 starred one) originating from the middle of the board, and if the queen is in a corner, you just move the star, but then you have the problem of extending the diagonal move to the other corner, because the diagonal wasn't that long on the original matrix. And you'd probably need a special matrix for pawns, because pawns move one way and capture another. And another one for rooks and kings for castling moves. Damn. Chess is just one big special-case nightmare pit.
nononono, read it again, I said I was on prodigy BEFORE they added internet service. I was on the prodigy forums, where only prodigy users could connect to. This back when most games were EGA, maybe VGA if it was real cutting edge. I was on a BBS while the internet was still ramping up, and then around 93-94 I got on the internet when it became available near me. I think there was net access in the Palm Beach Fl area before that, but it was all just shell access, not PPP or SLIP.
I am an ex-prodigy user. I used it on my first PC back in 1989, way before it was easy to get true 'net access. This was before Prodigy tried to get on the web. It had some fun games at the time, and the boards were OK. I was only on it for a short time until I discovered BBSes, and eventually sysoped my own. Around 94 a company came to my area with true net access, and I got on that for 2 years before going to college and getting a degree in CS.
Prodigy is still alive today, it has been assimilated into the SBC network, which I work for. I don't know much about it, but from what I can tell, they eventually became an all-net company. Now it is part of SBC-Yahoo.
And the fact that they don't have enough inbound lines doesn't count for anything?
I don't care about the bells & whistles. My mother has AOL, and when I am at her house, I can minimize the shitty AOL environment and just use IE. Normal net apps work fine.
it's just the dept tagline. Don't freak out. He didn't insert his comments in the story. At least Mandrake MADE it onto slashdot.
And I feel really stupid when I pay $15 more for a video game. Can you imagine being off by many millions of dollars?
There is only one input for power on the CD-Rom drive, how do you expect it to feedback into the other PSU?
3 373055/ if you have no idea what I mean by removing SCSI devices from the scsi tables.
/dev/sdb and remove it from the system"
To better answer your question, I have a Dual P2 running linux as a file server. It has 3 9 gig SCSI drives connected to it, but they are so damn huge (full height) that I had to bolt them all together with sheet metal and sit them outside the dual p2's case. Not to mention the huge amount of power they suck down, and the huge amount of heat and noise they generate. (You thought a 7200 RPM was loud. You should her some old 10 platter 4500's!)
Anyway.... the 3 SCSI drives are all powered off an old AT power supply. The Dual P2's run off an ATX. You can do this. There is nothing wrong with it. As long as you turn on the drives before the PSU running the motherboard, you can run as many PSU's as you can handle. In fact, I even have my linux box hooked up in such a way that as long as I umount the drives and remove them from the Linux SCSI tables, I can power down the drives independant of the CPU and power it up and re-add them when I want to use them.
see http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/58/2000/2/0/
Speaking of which, does anyone know how linux maps the devices by lun, SCSI ID, host etc to the device names like sda, sdb etc? It would make m job easier if I could say "get the ID:HOST:LUN etc for drive
Please.... I bust out my homebrew babbage computer when I'm at a restaraunt and need to calculate tip.
And nothing beats my modded turing machine with glowing fans when I need to kick some ass at unreal tourney
When I still worked at UCF (about a year and a half ago) I had to put all the programs on the lab machines for the psychology department. They had several programs written in BASIC, that they used for college level courses. I was too lazy/involved with other things to port them to a normal language.
Personally, I'd say a floppy drive. I also have a 1993 Sportster 14.4 that I still use because it's my only fax machine. My desktop doesnt' have a modem in it, and getting a fax to work properly on an Alpha Linux machine is more pain than I'm willing to put up with. External Serial 14.4 is easy to hook up to my desktop win2k machine and unplug when I'm not using it (most of the time, like when I'm not sending out resumes).
I don't know how old the floppy drive is, but since all floppy drives nowadays have the same featureset (1.44 MB high density) you could say I've had the same piece of equipment since my first x86 computer that had a HD floppy drive, around 1989 or so.
Before that, my only computer was a C64, which I still have (gutted, I am going to mount a P2 in the casing). I didn't learn very much on the c64, so I don't have all the cool old equipment for it. Just the base unit and some games and joysticks.
I just remembered the oldest thing I had! I took an unused IBM XT case (what is that? Like 82 or 83?) and put an AMD Athlon in it. So the case is 20 years old, and as far as electronics go, I'm using the original 5.25 drive faceplates with LED's on the new machine. So the LED's are the oldest ELECTRONIC thing. The PSU fan says it was made in early 1983, so 20+ years ago.
between a PVR and a DVR?
I think too many acronyms are being thrown around here.
"Theory is when eveything is known and nothing works. Practice is when everything works and nobody knows why. At Microsoft, theory and practice are united: nothing works and nobody knows why"
from an instant message quote from my supervisors at work, who got it from somewhere else.
I have an older 15" monitor that I use as a secondary to my 17". The 15" is on a KVM btwn my Linux Alpha server and the secondary win2k monitor. I don't use the 2nd desktop in win for too much. Winamp mostly. I haven't done too much coding in a long time, so I haven't used it for a debugger yet. It's nice to be able to have a linux box on a KVM so I can have both screen up at the same time, yet still be able to go multimonitor. The server has no use for multimonitor, most of my work is done on the win2k machine anyway.
my alpha. :(
You're going to have to format them at the end of the year anyways, after the kids are done with them, may as well put Windows 98 on it, and it will start to get horribly unstable right around the time a new class is going to use them.
most people don't rip CDs at work, and most home machines have autorun enabled.
When I say most home machines, I don't mean NEW Macs, I mean MOST HOME MACHINES which means windows 95-ME, and some 2k and XP machines, along with OS8-9.
+1 Fanatical.
I saw a motorized surfboard when I was like 6 years old. That was about 19 years ago. Granted, it wasn't NEARLY as sexy as this one. The one I saw was a fairly big box on the back of a surfboard. The one in the article actually LOOKS like a surfboard, maybe a little thicker in the middle.
I just looked up some info, from the website:
"Last year students set the Reflecting Pond afire and accidentally launched a potato at the Library. That brings a ban on pyrotechnics this year. However, Eaglin expects the competition to be action-packed and full of surprises. "These are engineers. They come up with all sorts of things," he concludes."
http://www.news.ucf.edu/FY2001-02/020415a.html
Not sure if they do it every year, but at UCF they have races to get potatoes to the other side of the reflection pond. Using engineered stuff. You get lots of remote control boats, high-speed winches, and ziplines. It's a difficult competition because it is a semi-circular pond, you have to go out to the middle, around the fountain, and back to the other side (think of a line dissecting a circle, you start on one radius and end on the other). Check www.ucf.edu for pics of the fountain.
:)
:)
One group decided to use a cannon. Not quite as big as the one in the article, but close. Maybe 6-8". They stuff the potato in something (didnt' get a close look at it), shoved it down the tube with a string on one end, fired it off, and then reeled it back in with an electric motor. They let them fire it off a second time just to hear the boom
Another group had some wierd contraption with PVC tubes with holes drilled at intervals that sat in the water. They had a bunch of gasoline or kerosene or some flamable liquid that they poured in teh thing and lit it on fire. I asked them what it was supposed to do, they just said they wanted to see the pond on fire. They took some casualties in other people's projects
ion engines won't get you off the planet. Even the ESA used a massive Arianne rocket to PUT that ship in orbit, and even then, it was a TEST run, and they said it will take 16 months for the ion engine rocket to get to the moon.