I do know the one you mean, it had little boxes to represent beans, and you dragged pipes between them. Beans had properties to control behaviour, to set label text, which wav file to play, or set up the criteria on a conditional.
As I say, it was discontinued even by '97 when we used it to build some applets, AFAIR.
Firstly, the OP said google and microsoft in reference to their role as browser manufacturers, then referred to them and others potentially being involved in evercookies.
Secondly, The post I replied to didn't reference either company.
Thirdly, I didn't say they were violating laws (though there certainly are people that violate DNC), I said that marketers and advertisers, particularly the unscrupulous ones, go out of their way to target people who don't want to be advertised to. The point being that it's counterintuitive - why go after people who hate what you do and are unlikely to be a market for you?
The only reason I can think of is that they use the size of their mailing lists to sell their services.
"why is there this impression amongst some that they wouldn't? A vestige of the old "Nintendo is for kiddies" crowd, not believing Nintendo could ever put something in a console that would appeal to (supposed) "grown-ups"?"
Actually I would put it down to the "Wii is already so great, HD is for graphics-obsessed geeks!" crowd who have been arguing so long about how HD output is not only unnecessary but actually bad that changing tack now is hard work. But it could come from either party.
Maybe it came from nobody and the/. crowd are arguing over nothing at all. That seems pretty likely to me:)
Oh sure, but the GFX available on those systems are well out of date now too!
I think my eyes aren't good enough to care about the difference from 720p->1080p anyway, but they're certainly good enough to notice the Wii (EDTV mode) output compared to other stuff.
Not all the time, and it doesn't matter all that much, but when you notice it you notice it, a lot.
Because you hear of deliberate violations of do-not-call lists, and everybody likes to make it hard to get off their spamvertising lists.
It seems like common sense to you and me, but I'm not sure that the unethical marketing people (not all, but the unethical ones) have got there yet. They seem to think it's extra important to annoy the hell out of people who've already decided they don't want to be annoyed.
"Nintendo has chosen to make a profit on their console rather than try to get it to push 1080p video when most customers will never see it."
For the Wii?
Sure, but the world has now moved on. You can push HD video from an ARM device these days. Hell, you can do that off the shelf with Tegra 2, off the shelf. There's no need to go into the realms of loss on hardware or experimental hardware combinations in order to push 1080p and semi-decent 3D gfx performance these days. Let alone if you think 720p is "good enough" for your customer base. And to be fair it would be for me. SD or ED is obvious to my eyes, but once you get past 720p I'm not sure I see much in it.
I know, I know. The meme in your head is shouting that graphics don't matter, we've got gameplay! That it might even be a bad thing to up the res! We've been defending the SD Wii for so long that to suggest that HD and some AA might be coming is seen as contradictory to dogma. Surely SD is good, because the Wii has it, and only Xbox and PS3 weenies *need* HD to have fun in their childish soldier-killing games.
"If by "embarrassment", you mean "top selling console that never had to be sold at a loss" and "massive profit", then yes they should be embarrassed. I would like to be embarrassed like that too."
Top install base.
I believe that the ps3 (god knows why!) is the current top seller in the console world.
I wouldn't like to speculate on whether that's due, at least in part, to lack of HD performance. But I would like a Wii that could output proper resolutions with a bit of AA, which is why I'm considering a Dolphin setup.
Buy HP. It just works with linux. Hell, a lot of printers of many brands are now much more likely to work with linux than Windows due to manufacturers not providing updated drivers for Win 7.
And that's even without the massive software bundles a lot of printer manufacturers force you to install if you want the driver for windows.
There are valid criticisms of linux, as there are of all OSs. Printer supports is not one of them.
"Not sure how enforceable or practical it would be. Considering how central cookies are to today's web usage"
You know what, I've had cookies turned off for several months now, except for a few sites that I actually want the functionality they provide. My internet experience hasn't changed much on the whole, a few sites don't work so well. Most are just fine.
This tells me that the vast majority of the thousands of cookies that reside in the average browser are (at best) totally unnecessary, and are mostly unwanted tracking cookies for advertisers.
Cookies are a horribly overused tech that has people contribute to their own tracking for commercial purposes, mostly without their knowledge.
"salting is a bit overrated... If they have access to your machine they know what salt you've done, leaving you vulnerable to brute force attacks."
Sure, but it throws off rainbow tables nicely. Adding a little something into the mix that means any pre-computed list of hashes on the top billion or so obvious alphanumeric passwords is now useless, as we've stuffed in some binary crap. Brute force is now the only option, where before we could potentially break all the passwords using a single pre-executed brute-force dataset.
Salt is not an absolute protection. Like a lot of other things it just makes life more difficult and slower for the attacker.
Good luck getting insurance companies to pay out if you left the car unlocked, though.
It may not be the way that a lot of thieves operate, but you can bet your arse that your insurer won't have a problem denying you a payout if you left your car unlocked.
"Oh come ON! We're geek here, and my non-geek fiance was able to learn how to use the ribbon in a few minutes.
Are Linux nuts so incapable of learning a UI? Or is it a UI in a Microsoft product that automatically puts up a mental blinder that they cannot push through?
Ever day that passes I have less and less respect for geeks who can't remain impartial."
it's funny because this is the exact same argument people use against switching to Linux - Things are different, change is hard, it should always work exactly the same!!
It is weird that geeks get stuck in ruts just as badly as everyone else.
I have no comment on the Ribbon UI as I've never (to my knowledge) used it.
Do you read back what you write? If you did you may have noticed the horse-shit that your post is.
Do what the rich do... LOL. Be born into wealth?
There are only so many people that can be that wealthy and somebody has to clean the toilets. The plain fact is that most very wealthy people have got there by the fruits of other people's labour. Not that they didn't work damned hard, sure, but nobody's labour is worth thousands of times another persons.
"You are no different that the person you are trying to pain me as. Except, rather than "make shit up that seems to be a hole (when it isn't)," you make shit up that seems to be my argument, when it isn't."
Where did I do that?
I asked a couple of questions of you, but I didn't make up a straw man and knock it down, as far as I can tell. Who's making shit up now?
I wasn't accusing you of pushing your agenda into schools, by the way, I have no reason to think you (specifically) are doing that.
However, 99% of the "questioning" of evolutionary theory in this day and age is exactly of that character. Sorry if that means you have to make it extra clear that's not what your about, but the signal to noise ration is pretty extreme right now.
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I'm not really either.
Which either makes me a handsome rebel or a completely irrelevant misanthrope.
Unfortunately I'm pretty sure it's the latter!
I do know the one you mean, it had little boxes to represent beans, and you dragged pipes between them. Beans had properties to control behaviour, to set label text, which wav file to play, or set up the criteria on a conditional.
As I say, it was discontinued even by '97 when we used it to build some applets, AFAIR.
We had an assignment to use that back at university in... 97? It was already discontinued at that point.
It was called something like Java Cafe... there seems to have been a product called "Visual Cafe"... but I can't find any screenshots to confirm it.
I think whatever it was may have been lost in the mists of time!
Firstly, the OP said google and microsoft in reference to their role as browser manufacturers, then referred to them and others potentially being involved in evercookies.
Secondly, The post I replied to didn't reference either company.
Thirdly, I didn't say they were violating laws (though there certainly are people that violate DNC), I said that marketers and advertisers, particularly the unscrupulous ones, go out of their way to target people who don't want to be advertised to. The point being that it's counterintuitive - why go after people who hate what you do and are unlikely to be a market for you?
The only reason I can think of is that they use the size of their mailing lists to sell their services.
"why is there this impression amongst some that they wouldn't? A vestige of the old "Nintendo is for kiddies" crowd, not believing Nintendo could ever put something in a console that would appeal to (supposed) "grown-ups"?"
Actually I would put it down to the "Wii is already so great, HD is for graphics-obsessed geeks!" crowd who have been arguing so long about how HD output is not only unnecessary but actually bad that changing tack now is hard work. But it could come from either party.
Maybe it came from nobody and the /. crowd are arguing over nothing at all. That seems pretty likely to me :)
Cool, put counter-adblocking in place, refuse to serve content to people that block your ads.
That way people can decide whether to enable the ads to see the content and neither party gets ripped off. It makes the relationship explicit.
I fully support that.
"In 2006, when the Wii was released, how many handheld devices were there that pushed HD video?"
1. We're talking about the possible Wii successor, are we not?
2. Who brought up handhelds or batteries??
Oh sure.
I still agree with the direction of the original post though. If they release a new one now, it would be silly not to include HDTV capability.
Oh sure, but the GFX available on those systems are well out of date now too!
I think my eyes aren't good enough to care about the difference from 720p->1080p anyway, but they're certainly good enough to notice the Wii (EDTV mode) output compared to other stuff.
Not all the time, and it doesn't matter all that much, but when you notice it you notice it, a lot.
Really?
Because you hear of deliberate violations of do-not-call lists, and everybody likes to make it hard to get off their spamvertising lists.
It seems like common sense to you and me, but I'm not sure that the unethical marketing people (not all, but the unethical ones) have got there yet. They seem to think it's extra important to annoy the hell out of people who've already decided they don't want to be annoyed.
"Nintendo has chosen to make a profit on their console rather than try to get it to push 1080p video when most customers will never see it."
For the Wii?
Sure, but the world has now moved on. You can push HD video from an ARM device these days. Hell, you can do that off the shelf with Tegra 2, off the shelf. There's no need to go into the realms of loss on hardware or experimental hardware combinations in order to push 1080p and semi-decent 3D gfx performance these days. Let alone if you think 720p is "good enough" for your customer base. And to be fair it would be for me. SD or ED is obvious to my eyes, but once you get past 720p I'm not sure I see much in it.
I know, I know. The meme in your head is shouting that graphics don't matter, we've got gameplay! That it might even be a bad thing to up the res! We've been defending the SD Wii for so long that to suggest that HD and some AA might be coming is seen as contradictory to dogma. Surely SD is good, because the Wii has it, and only Xbox and PS3 weenies *need* HD to have fun in their childish soldier-killing games.
That, however, is just fanboyism.
Different market.
Compare iPhone sales to DS/3DS. If you insist it's a console it's most definitely a portable.
"console which has nearly outsold all of its competitors combined."
Define nearly?
Is 14million units difference out of a total of 100 million combined Xbox and PS3 sales "Nearly"?
It's not the level of detail that bothers me, it's the pixelly edges.
"If by "embarrassment", you mean "top selling console that never had to be sold at a loss" and "massive profit", then yes they should be embarrassed. I would like to be embarrassed like that too."
Top install base.
I believe that the ps3 (god knows why!) is the current top seller in the console world.
I wouldn't like to speculate on whether that's due, at least in part, to lack of HD performance. But I would like a Wii that could output proper resolutions with a bit of AA, which is why I'm considering a Dolphin setup.
Buy HP. It just works with linux. Hell, a lot of printers of many brands are now much more likely to work with linux than Windows due to manufacturers not providing updated drivers for Win 7.
And that's even without the massive software bundles a lot of printer manufacturers force you to install if you want the driver for windows.
There are valid criticisms of linux, as there are of all OSs. Printer supports is not one of them.
"Not sure how enforceable or practical it would be. Considering how central cookies are to today's web usage"
You know what, I've had cookies turned off for several months now, except for a few sites that I actually want the functionality they provide. My internet experience hasn't changed much on the whole, a few sites don't work so well. Most are just fine.
This tells me that the vast majority of the thousands of cookies that reside in the average browser are (at best) totally unnecessary, and are mostly unwanted tracking cookies for advertisers.
Cookies are a horribly overused tech that has people contribute to their own tracking for commercial purposes, mostly without their knowledge.
Seriously, it's not hard to run up msconfig and switch off stuff you don't need to have loaded at runtime!
"Perhaps you have never tried to develop software on a machine that can't run the IDE without swapping."
vi doesn't swap that much.
If you need some sort of fancy GUI program then nedit or gedit ought to do the trick too...
"It is a shame that programmers and engineers do not design and code their products so that they will be reliable."
Speak for yourself.
Some of us take pride in our work and write fast, reliable software that runs on servers for multiple years without interference.
"salting is a bit overrated... If they have access to your machine they know what salt you've done, leaving you vulnerable to brute force attacks."
Sure, but it throws off rainbow tables nicely. Adding a little something into the mix that means any pre-computed list of hashes on the top billion or so obvious alphanumeric passwords is now useless, as we've stuffed in some binary crap. Brute force is now the only option, where before we could potentially break all the passwords using a single pre-executed brute-force dataset.
Salt is not an absolute protection. Like a lot of other things it just makes life more difficult and slower for the attacker.
Good luck getting insurance companies to pay out if you left the car unlocked, though.
It may not be the way that a lot of thieves operate, but you can bet your arse that your insurer won't have a problem denying you a payout if you left your car unlocked.
it's funny because this is the exact same argument people use against switching to Linux - Things are different, change is hard, it should always work exactly the same!!
It is weird that geeks get stuck in ruts just as badly as everyone else.
I have no comment on the Ribbon UI as I've never (to my knowledge) used it.
Do you read back what you write? If you did you may have noticed the horse-shit that your post is.
Do what the rich do... LOL. Be born into wealth?
There are only so many people that can be that wealthy and somebody has to clean the toilets. The plain fact is that most very wealthy people have got there by the fruits of other people's labour. Not that they didn't work damned hard, sure, but nobody's labour is worth thousands of times another persons.
"You are no different that the person you are trying to pain me as. Except, rather than "make shit up that seems to be a hole (when it isn't)," you make shit up that seems to be my argument, when it isn't."
Where did I do that?
I asked a couple of questions of you, but I didn't make up a straw man and knock it down, as far as I can tell. Who's making shit up now?
I wasn't accusing you of pushing your agenda into schools, by the way, I have no reason to think you (specifically) are doing that.
However, 99% of the "questioning" of evolutionary theory in this day and age is exactly of that character. Sorry if that means you have to make it extra clear that's not what your about, but the signal to noise ration is pretty extreme right now.
Every creature that reproduced, you mean!
Anything that dies before it spawns is a dead end.