"what are the ramifications if there are nonhuman beings who experience conscience and guilt?" is a fascinating question
Why is guilt so fascinating to you papists?
Also, why is this fascinating? Is it fascinating because you'll have to spend decades performing another set of mental gymnastics to try and fit your holy scripture around reality? Again?
Can we drop the old-time superstitions yet? Please?
iPlayer, youtube, DLNA, all you need. Stream your... eh... legitimately acquired media from any old linux (w. mediatomb) or windows vista or 7 (w. media player) machine.
"Switch your Debian laptop to 640x480 mode. Done? Now change it back to your previous resolution without using some secret keyboard combo."
Done. I changed it using xrandr at the command line and changed it back the same way.
Oh, you meant "in a way my grandmother would be able to do it!". Well, let me know when you've finished explaining resolution to grandma, then we can talk to her about that. In the mean time I'll carry on with my system, that just works and works perfectly for my needs.
not everyone considers the same things user friendly. Frankly if I can't script something I consider it a pain.
I just meant that a lot of people have been taken in by fear of terrorism and immigration, as well as fear of youth, and they welcome this crap. What the government's motives are I shudder to think, in fact I don't think for the most part that this shower of retards we currently have in power are really running anything.
I, for one, would love a classical liberal government. Social freedom, social responsibility (i.e. NHS and essential welfare are safe) and an attempt to create a minimal government within these parameters.
That there was the point as it rushed over your head.
Beck makes assumptions and oddly worded semi-accusations toward people he disagrees with, then demands they take the time to disprove them. This site is made to do exactly that.
It is satire/parody, precisely because it uses his own techniques to make him look like an idiot. Not that he needed help.
personally I don't find it exactly hilarious, but shoving his own tactics back in his face is a worthwhile endeavour.
Some of them have a mix of just enough racism, just enough respect for authority and just enough credulity to have really, heavily bought into the "terrorists are everywhere" line. They think anyone with dark skin of arab/persian or even indian descent is probably plotting to overthrow the state and/or perpetrate some mass murder like 9/11 or 7/7. The tabloids deliberately confuse them and conflate immigration (legal or otherwise), asylum and terrorism into one big boiling mess of "those dark skinned foreigners are just evil!".
And so when the government tell them they are doing something, anything at all, they jump for joy. Criticism is taken as dangerous, subversive anti-patriotic and prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They also tend to be the types that will immediately defend any action by the police because beating up defenceless protestors is somehow defending the public.
This is not some sort of "those people" thing either, this cuts across social class and geography. Hell, I'm even related to some people like this.
Now, before americans jump in here please remember that there's a big chunk of your population that think exactly the same way. They are often also the ones quickest to shout about loss of freedom when it comes to social programs.
T-Mobile offer a £12 (or 12.50) add-on for their contracts (or included in some of them) that gets you 3GB including tethering. You're being ripped off if you're still paying late-90s data prices.
I'm not saying "OOOH! I want to be successful like you!", I'm telling you that you live in a fantasy world. It's a lie that a lot of americans buy into and that's used as a justification to slither out of social responsibilities.
"I deserve it!" they bleat, having been handed it on a silver platter, and the masses swallow the abuse because they've been taught that it's them next, next week they get to be the abusive overlord they think.
It's all bullshit.
BTW I earn very well and have a great life, so it's not jealousy or bitterness. I just find it utterly hilarious that you have such a naive view of the world. It's childlike.
And watch as they all stop using the forum so they can get some work done. And as the users leave because they logged in, saw some discussion of the internals and some code snippets and got totally confused.
"Now on to second part of your comment. If any part of the banking website supports client certificates, for any reason, it seems a renegotiation can be trivially triggered by the attacker."
How?
The way I'm reading the vulnerability, the attacker can only gain access to the data stream AFTER renegotiation, so how does he trigger it? He can't insert traffic into the encrypted stream.
Do you make your clients authenticate their SSL connections with a client-side certificate?
If not then you're probably just fine with SSLv3. Look out for patches to your server to be issued soon that either disable cipher renegotiation completely or make it a config option.
And your certainty that SSLv2 is not vulnerable to this same problem comes from?
And have you tried watching a session with your bank? Set up an ssl-dumping proxy and see if there are any renegotiations. I'm guessing not. This only occurs where the server needs a client certificate (not your bank) or the cipher suites are going to change (not going to happen on a "normal" TLS connection.
My non-terrible advice? It's not going to affect 99% of anything anyone does unless someone figures out a way to force the renegotiation.
SSLv2 isn't widely used any more precisely because it's got systemic vulnerabilities. What's needed is a new revision of the protocol or the removal of the renegotiation feature.
Surely what you really need to make it cheap is cheap components and low R&D costs. Toughen up a netbook for god's sake! At the time the last OLPC came to everyone's attention, it was a fairly revolutionary idea. Then Asus released the Eee range and others quickly followed suit. Nearly all of them make the OLPC look like last year's trash and for not much price difference.
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"what are the ramifications if there are nonhuman beings who experience conscience and guilt?" is a fascinating question
Why is guilt so fascinating to you papists?
Also, why is this fascinating? Is it fascinating because you'll have to spend decades performing another set of mental gymnastics to try and fit your holy scripture around reality? Again?
Can we drop the old-time superstitions yet? Please?
Epic fail yourself, they can trace where your iPhone was, no need to care about where that facebook update appeared to come from then.
iPlayer, youtube, DLNA, all you need. Stream your ... eh ... legitimately acquired media from any old linux (w. mediatomb) or windows vista or 7 (w. media player) machine.
Plus you get to play games.
"Yeah I'm sure that will go over really big with potential customers. No wonder Linux remains a niche product with less than 1% use on the desktop"
It's niche product because you're inadequate, got it.
It's not an obscure key combo.
Not comfortable with the command line? YOU FAIL.
GTFO of my linux.
1. You're still on dialup? How about joining us in the 21st century sometime?
2. All those things are possible, YOU FAIL. Not linux, YOU.
"Switch your Debian laptop to 640x480 mode. Done? Now change it back to your previous resolution without using some secret keyboard combo."
Done. I changed it using xrandr at the command line and changed it back the same way.
Oh, you meant "in a way my grandmother would be able to do it!". Well, let me know when you've finished explaining resolution to grandma, then we can talk to her about that. In the mean time I'll carry on with my system, that just works and works perfectly for my needs.
not everyone considers the same things user friendly. Frankly if I can't script something I consider it a pain.
"Free" software people won't touch Apple with a long pointed stick. It's even more closed and unfriendly than MS.
Who said anything about left or right?
I just meant that a lot of people have been taken in by fear of terrorism and immigration, as well as fear of youth, and they welcome this crap. What the government's motives are I shudder to think, in fact I don't think for the most part that this shower of retards we currently have in power are really running anything.
I, for one, would love a classical liberal government. Social freedom, social responsibility (i.e. NHS and essential welfare are safe) and an attempt to create a minimal government within these parameters.
That there was the point as it rushed over your head.
Beck makes assumptions and oddly worded semi-accusations toward people he disagrees with, then demands they take the time to disprove them. This site is made to do exactly that.
It is satire/parody, precisely because it uses his own techniques to make him look like an idiot. Not that he needed help.
personally I don't find it exactly hilarious, but shoving his own tactics back in his face is a worthwhile endeavour.
Sadly, some of our compatriots do want it.
Some of them have a mix of just enough racism, just enough respect for authority and just enough credulity to have really, heavily bought into the "terrorists are everywhere" line. They think anyone with dark skin of arab/persian or even indian descent is probably plotting to overthrow the state and/or perpetrate some mass murder like 9/11 or 7/7. The tabloids deliberately confuse them and conflate immigration (legal or otherwise), asylum and terrorism into one big boiling mess of "those dark skinned foreigners are just evil!".
And so when the government tell them they are doing something, anything at all, they jump for joy. Criticism is taken as dangerous, subversive anti-patriotic and prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. They also tend to be the types that will immediately defend any action by the police because beating up defenceless protestors is somehow defending the public.
This is not some sort of "those people" thing either, this cuts across social class and geography. Hell, I'm even related to some people like this.
Now, before americans jump in here please remember that there's a big chunk of your population that think exactly the same way. They are often also the ones quickest to shout about loss of freedom when it comes to social programs.
The ASA ought to sort that out.
But you can get decent tethering plans in the UK.
What are you talking about?
T-Mobile offer a £12 (or 12.50) add-on for their contracts (or included in some of them) that gets you 3GB including tethering. You're being ripped off if you're still paying late-90s data prices.
Piss off you arrogant twat.
I'm not saying "OOOH! I want to be successful like you!", I'm telling you that you live in a fantasy world. It's a lie that a lot of americans buy into and that's used as a justification to slither out of social responsibilities.
"I deserve it!" they bleat, having been handed it on a silver platter, and the masses swallow the abuse because they've been taught that it's them next, next week they get to be the abusive overlord they think.
It's all bullshit.
BTW I earn very well and have a great life, so it's not jealousy or bitterness. I just find it utterly hilarious that you have such a naive view of the world. It's childlike.
+1, inspiringly naive
It would be nice to live in your world.
And watch as they all stop using the forum so they can get some work done. And as the users leave because they logged in, saw some discussion of the internals and some code snippets and got totally confused.
No, it's better the way it is.
According to TFA you need a server renegotiation in order to allow this injection. FAIL.
"Now on to second part of your comment. If any part of the banking website supports client certificates, for any reason, it seems a renegotiation can be trivially triggered by the attacker."
How?
The way I'm reading the vulnerability, the attacker can only gain access to the data stream AFTER renegotiation, so how does he trigger it? He can't insert traffic into the encrypted stream.
Do you make your clients authenticate their SSL connections with a client-side certificate?
If not then you're probably just fine with SSLv3. Look out for patches to your server to be issued soon that either disable cipher renegotiation completely or make it a config option.
And your certainty that SSLv2 is not vulnerable to this same problem comes from?
And have you tried watching a session with your bank? Set up an ssl-dumping proxy and see if there are any renegotiations. I'm guessing not. This only occurs where the server needs a client certificate (not your bank) or the cipher suites are going to change (not going to happen on a "normal" TLS connection.
My non-terrible advice? It's not going to affect 99% of anything anyone does unless someone figures out a way to force the renegotiation.
Of course it is! This is terrible advice!
SSLv2 isn't widely used any more precisely because it's got systemic vulnerabilities. What's needed is a new revision of the protocol or the removal of the renegotiation feature.
I thought we had those in quake (team fortress)...
Dual screens? E-paper? Touchable displays?
Surely what you really need to make it cheap is cheap components and low R&D costs. Toughen up a netbook for god's sake! At the time the last OLPC came to everyone's attention, it was a fairly revolutionary idea. Then Asus released the Eee range and others quickly followed suit. Nearly all of them make the OLPC look like last year's trash and for not much price difference.
You're doing what nearly everyone here would recommend - directing her to useful material and supervising her access to the 'net.
Sounds fine to me!
continuity of the state and its power structures is far more important than petty things like individual freedoms or human lives.