I have (just, few hours ago) - via german geek news ticker heise.de - come to know British music industry has set up a site to "protect their content" and educate the consumers (to pay, what else?.
http://www.bmr.org/campaign/
And they have a nice site with links "Click to join the debate", http://www.bmr.org/campaign/ but, as usual they got it all wrong: i answered but it's an email and i suspect they will have to ask their bosses whether they can publish this.
So i'll publish my reply (hey, they asked!) on/.
#email-start# Concerning the artists i agree almost totally with James Bostock.
Looking to the opportunities for "consumers" like me (who just has not enough time to make the music i'd like to hear myself) i am convinced there will be many ways to find published music which is interesting to the likes of me but cannot be published the way the business runs nowadays. Think of those musicians with a more eclectic taste, those who even now like old styles or just the "bygones" who are not selling enough to interest even a small label.
Thinking of the music industry i hope they will continue the path they have taken. In this case they will destroy themselves and rightly so:
To be polite: there may be something to be invented, thought out or else which could win back the respect the music industry and all copyright sellers like them have destroyed in the recent years and are further destroying any given day. But i don't think anyone can convince me to do such a job for them.
Doc Searls and his friends have done a great job in this direction:
http://www.cluetrain.com/ #email-end#
(Any native speakers of english or american english always welcome to direct me to be more polite)
Thanks a lot for the link to WiPEOUTs Microsoft Marketing speak - that's really a good one (ROTFL).
OK, its at least slightly OT but just in case anyone in danger to believe that is watching:
Quoting from the Comment: "You've obviously never worked as a developer on Microsoft's platforms. They have the best developer tools, documentation, training and support options I have ever seen. Nothing else from any other company comes close."
I have tried to work with MS C and C++ from DOS times via Win 3.11 till NT 4.0 and their compiler always was a beast (these errors & warnings alone...) and the documentation a large pile of sh*t - lots & lots of paper and spend your weekend trying to find anything useful. We didn't get anything running until we switched to Turbo C/Borland C++.
Again: "Any developer documentation as comprehensive, accessible and easy to use as the MSDN Library?"
Same as above: its HTML, sort of and you can read it from CD, DVD or online (whoa!). Take your time, finding anything useful will need lots of it since these guys obviously do not know anything about how an index should be organized and until now they don't even have the clue to copy this concept.
And yes, i am using a MS IDE on a MS OS. And i am looking forward to the not-so-far-away day when i get the same at my job what i use at home: linux, postgresql, netbeans, eclipse, ant...
Teaching the accountant of a friend how to use a spreadsheet i took care to teach her just this: to use a spreadsheet. The dang thing was Excel but she did not find any difficulty in understanding the principles independent from the actual implementation. The sugar (how to format cells, to use fonts etc.) i told her to find out by herself and she did a great job.
I always liked those of Borlands products i have used very much, from Turbo Pascal 1.0 to 4.0 and Turbo C/Borland C++.
As i remember they were fast, stable and (Pascal-wise) had sensible extensions to the standard (i.e. a usable string type). I once worked for a company doing sw development with TP 2.0 (or 3.0, anyway: no units then) and since their code was up to around 50.000 lines they decided to move to IBM Pascal and divide it into several modules. After a week of evaluating the decision was clear: stay with TP, the [expletive deleted] expensive "grown-up" pascal compiler uses only 192kB RAM and cannot compile more source code than 64kB in one bite, any sensible division of existing code thus near impossible.
The best thing about the C/C++-Compilers i remember was the splendid online-documentation with lots of examples and easy ways to find answers to any questions - MSDN anyone?
This said i dare to disagree about your hope that
>I guess Borland can fall back on its Java products
and i am sorry about that. But Eclipse and Netbeans as well are growing at such a speed i would not have thought possible. Just this day i had a discussion with my boss who, having used JBuilder for starters with Java mentioned the frequent and costly upgrades for this IDE - three in last year, if he got it right. So we will probably be with Eclipse at work in the near future and i shall enjoy it.
Borland will hopefully survive as vendor of cross-plattform IDEs with native compilers. But as you said, they now want to sell fewer products at higher prices and that's dangerous IMHO, the OSS developing as it is and it's just the opposite of what Borland did in the olden days;) offering high quality products with excellent documentation at prices around 10-20% of the competition's.
> I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore! Where's the "War on The Entertainment Industry Axis of Evil"? Sign me up!
If you are finding any good idea or war club please tell me - i might be joining too. Donating to the EFF might do just to begin with. To make you even more mad (too mad for hell) see http://www.way.nu/archives/000493.html#000493 Somhow its relieving to see that others too are losing their good manners (Not enough time? lookup "David Weinberger takes righteous offense" on that page).
My first thought after reading this excellent (IMHO) piece of work concerned that testimonial giver: if he thinks the likes of me owe him money because he doesn't have that much as other people he knows - well, i can do without star wars or anything else from this goon (what was his name again? forget it). And *very nice* that this cheap idiot ripped the basics from an elder movie by Akira Kurosawa (now that's a name to write home about). On second thinking i always liked "The seven samurai" even better than "The glorious seven" (original title approximated via retranslation from german). Other films by him like "Rashomon" or "Kagemusha" i know as excellent and i don't even own any of them on DVD.
Consequence: i won't even think of seeing or getting anything done by this industry wh**e. Instead i'll see to get me a nice Kurosawa-Collection. And i know that the artist wouldn't mind if i am ripping these because he took what he thought handy from Shakespeare, Ed McBain etc. and AFAIK didn't ever complain about being copied in said western. This was an artist, not a merchant, he wanted to tell stories and people to listen to these and to tell them on.
Whoa, i must have been even madder than i thought!
Slashdot Mirror
i don't know enough HTML or WTF, so the link automagically acquires a space :-)
should be:
http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?
and appended to link above
decimatio
one out of 10 would be shot.
d ec imatio
;-)
http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?
good ol' europe...
ok, so mod me down for anti-americanism
full ACK.
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I have (just, few hours ago) - via german geek news ticker heise.de - come to know British music industry has set up a site to "protect their content" and educate the consumers (to pay, what else?.
http://www.bmr.org/campaign/
And they have a nice site with links "Click to join the debate",
http://www.bmr.org/campaign/
but, as usual they got it all wrong:
i answered but it's an email and i suspect they will have to ask their bosses whether they can publish this.
So i'll publish my reply (hey, they asked!) on
#email-start#
Concerning the artists i agree almost totally with James Bostock.
Looking to the opportunities for "consumers" like me (who just has not enough time to make the music i'd like to hear myself) i am convinced there will be many ways to find published music which is interesting to the likes of me but cannot be published the way the business runs nowadays. Think of those musicians with a more eclectic taste, those who even now like old styles or just the "bygones" who are not selling enough to interest even a small label.
Thinking of the music industry i hope they will continue the path they have taken. In this case they will destroy themselves and rightly so:
http://dir.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/lo
To be polite: there may be something to be invented, thought out or else which could win back the respect the music industry and all copyright sellers like them have destroyed in the recent years and are further destroying any given day. But i don't think anyone can convince me to do such a job for them.
Doc Searls and his friends have done a great job in this direction:
http://www.cluetrain.com/
#email-end#
(Any native speakers of english or american english always welcome to direct me to be more polite)
Thanks a lot for the link to WiPEOUTs Microsoft Marketing speak - that's really a good one (ROTFL).
...) and the documentation a large pile of sh*t - lots & lots of paper and spend your weekend trying to find anything useful.
...
OK, its at least slightly OT but just in case anyone in danger to believe that is watching:
Quoting from the Comment:
"You've obviously never worked as a developer on Microsoft's platforms. They have the best developer tools, documentation, training and support options I have ever seen. Nothing else from any other company comes close."
I have tried to work with MS C and C++ from DOS times via Win 3.11 till NT 4.0 and their compiler always was a beast (these errors & warnings alone
We didn't get anything running until we switched to Turbo C/Borland C++.
Again:
"Any developer documentation as comprehensive, accessible and easy to use as the MSDN Library?"
Same as above: its HTML, sort of and you can read it from CD, DVD or online (whoa!). Take your time, finding anything useful will need lots of it since these guys obviously do not know anything about how an index should be organized and until now they don't even have the clue to copy this concept.
And yes, i am using a MS IDE on a MS OS. And i am looking forward to the not-so-far-away day when i get the same at my job what i use at home: linux, postgresql, netbeans, eclipse, ant
Nice to see others with similar thinking.
Teaching the accountant of a friend how to use a spreadsheet i took care to teach her just this: to use a spreadsheet.
The dang thing was Excel but she did not find any difficulty in understanding the principles independent from the actual implementation. The sugar (how to format cells, to use fonts etc.) i told her to find out by herself and she did a great job.
Concerning Borland and their business:
;) offering high quality products with excellent documentation at prices around 10-20% of the competition's.
I always liked those of Borlands products i have used very much, from Turbo Pascal 1.0 to 4.0 and Turbo C/Borland C++.
As i remember they were fast, stable and (Pascal-wise) had sensible extensions to the standard (i.e. a usable string type). I once worked for a company doing sw development with TP 2.0 (or 3.0, anyway: no units then) and since their code was up to around 50.000 lines they decided to move to IBM Pascal and divide it into several modules. After a week of evaluating the decision was clear: stay with TP, the [expletive deleted] expensive "grown-up" pascal compiler uses only 192kB RAM and cannot compile more source code than 64kB in one bite, any sensible division of existing code thus near impossible.
The best thing about the C/C++-Compilers i remember was the splendid online-documentation with lots of examples and easy ways to find answers to any questions - MSDN anyone?
This said i dare to disagree about your hope that
>I guess Borland can fall back on its Java products
and i am sorry about that. But Eclipse and Netbeans as well are growing at such a speed i would not have thought possible. Just this day i had a discussion with my boss who, having used JBuilder for starters with Java mentioned the frequent and costly upgrades for this IDE - three in last year, if he got it right. So we will probably be with Eclipse at work in the near future and i shall enjoy it.
Borland will hopefully survive as vendor of cross-plattform IDEs with native compilers. But as you said, they now want to sell fewer products at higher prices and that's dangerous IMHO, the OSS developing as it is and it's just the opposite of what Borland did in the olden days
> I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore! Where's the "War on The Entertainment Industry Axis of Evil"? Sign me up!
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If you are finding any good idea or war club please tell me - i might be joining too. Donating to the EFF might do just to begin with.
To make you even more mad (too mad for hell) see
http://www.way.nu/archives/000493.html#00049
Somhow its relieving to see that others too are losing their good manners (Not enough time? lookup "David Weinberger takes righteous offense" on that page).
My first thought after reading this excellent (IMHO) piece of work concerned that testimonial giver: if he thinks the likes of me owe him money because he doesn't have that much as other people he knows - well, i can do without star wars or anything else from this goon (what was his name again? forget it).
And *very nice* that this cheap idiot ripped the basics from an elder movie by Akira Kurosawa (now that's a name to write home about). On second thinking i always liked "The seven samurai" even better than "The glorious seven" (original title approximated via retranslation from german). Other films by him like "Rashomon" or "Kagemusha" i know as excellent and i don't even own any of them on DVD.
Consequence: i won't even think of seeing or getting anything done by this industry wh**e. Instead i'll see to get me a nice Kurosawa-Collection. And i know that the artist wouldn't mind if i am ripping these because he took what he thought handy from Shakespeare, Ed McBain etc. and AFAIK didn't ever complain about being copied in said western. This was an artist, not a merchant, he wanted to tell stories and people to listen to these and to tell them on.
Whoa, i must have been even madder than i thought!