I was under the impression that Compaq owned an entire Unix version. Is this not the case? For some reason I though Compaq made Alphas. If not where do Alpha's come from?
It doesn't need builtin Email support... I have mutt... and it doesn't need a clone of icq or aim as there are a number of those. I think what linux needs is a useful browser. Mozilla should concentrate its efforts on making an alternative for the aging and tired netscape.
The one saving grace i see if that perhaps all of these things will be modular and thus I can easily remove icq, aim,aol*, mail, news, etc from mozilla and have a relatively lean beast.
I'm worried that this modularization may not be a reality. Anyone used netscape 4.61 for win9x? AIM is forcefully installed and cannot be uninstalled beyond deleting the files.
Because it is stable and powerful and useful. If something better comes along that has all these things, but more so than linux/*BSD will you switch? I sure as hell will.
Perhaps one of these ventures will result in an even more stable beast than linux. I truly hope it resembles unix so all this "learning linux" won't go to waste, but it was gun in any case.
I'm pushing for GNU HURD myself... maybe someday it will be a reality.
Does anyone else feel that the point of the article was to attack linux because linux users bad mouthed *BSD? I personally like *BSD's but they could use a little help from the Linux community's advancements (eg., more supported peripherals (sp?), package management system, etc)
Explain. I thought it was interesting read at the very least and most of it sound marketing strategy. Should redhat follow these instructions I see it's profits increasing at the cost of potentially alienating free software developers not paid by redhat.
I have more luck at Deja then the LDP which appears to be quite obsolete information and i would point someone in search of help there far before i suggested the LDP. In theory it is good, but too difficulty to maintain.
I hope people contribute to it. I will... i think.
Sega and Nintendo have consistently lost ground to Sony. The playstation rocks, not because of its graphics, but because it has good games. I think, for the most part, people don't want to play games with goofy hedge-hogs and mario now that something closer to reality is possible.
I have an N64 and the only good game: Zelda 64. Does anyone know of any others that are playable?
Why don't you go form your own country then? The Federation of Aristocratic Assholes.
No! That's the name of my Country. And I'm taking your ass to court, unless you care to be my first citizen. You can expect a fruitful life of plenty and happiness and the ocassional beating (as i see fit).
AOL is just a big company with software that does not appeal to me at this time. As long as they improve netscape, then more power to them for having a crappy tv-channel. I won't watch... you can if you want to.
I care about movies and The Who, but I think some Floyd plugs would have been nice (R. Waters is on tour right now.).
I did not think that this article was that bad. The code needs some revision and more planning, but OTP is a encryption possibility. It seems good to have as many options as possible.
I don't understand why you'd visit a site if you did not care for the subject matter.
Has anyone else noticed that slashdot's banner adds appear a good thirty seconds to a minute before the page appears on win32-ie5 and linux-potato-netscape-461? A conspiracy? I think yes.
After an initial secure communication of random bytes, you can send the same amount of data over insecure communication routes in absolutely perfect security.
I don't think thats correct. As I understand OTP if you re-use the key the complete security is broken. As the randomness is gome. In order to use an OTP and securely communicate with a friend you must exchange a new key before each transmission. Thus the steps would be more like
make key (Which is the same size as the data)
exchange key in some secure way
exchange encrypted data securely
Goto 1
Nobody could ever crack it, no matter how many billions of dollars worth of computer equipment, no matter how much computers improve, no matter how many millenia they spend on it.
Nope. no one could crack the first one, but after that it would be possible with a difficulty depending upon how the data and key were combined.
I like the above. I like KDE's look and feel, but it is not very easy to configure. I Hate having kfm always ask if I am sure I wish to delete files and many of its other quirks. I do like kfm as an internet browser. I wish I could simply use it as such and diable the desktop icons, etc.
Gnome is nice, but I agree that not enough development is done to match the high version numbers they use.
Your router admin sounds like a know-it-all with no real knowledge.
I agree. When i pressed him for more he copped out, mentioning security issues that prevented him from disclosing the info. I don't wanna do anything wrong. I just want to learn.
I like gnome, but i'm not very concerned with the panel or the file manager. I'm looking forward to Gzilla and their office suite.
If only someone could construct a new interface for graphical applications. My favorite at present is WindowMaker as it is relatively different from the rest (please no flames about how it too is a clone of next-step fame)
What is on Gnome's side is that gtk seems to be relatively common. Anyone have any stats on the number of applications in gtk, qt, and others? Num of coders?
Anyone know what WindowManager will be gnomes next favorite now that enlightenment is estranged?
I can't wait to see what the next version of enlightenment contains, as I recall mention of it too having greater functionality
Here we all are (in your words) jerking off on slashdot as well.
Give the kid a break. I'm sure he's a good fellow. I too am at school to learn, but atleast irc often is an attempt to increase knowledge. He could be playing quake... or solitaire.. or undressing the office 97 paperclip guy with his eyes.
I try to play a good four hours+ of starcraft a day and you'll be proud - it interrupts my sleep and not my study/classes.
I pity those who cannot trust. After all, it's their mistrust that makes the (percieved) "other side" mistrustful I'm with you so far...
The Government tells you it can't be trusted, so you believe it. DUH!!! Is that thick, or what?
I'm sorry, I do not understand. What government are you speaking of? In America the Government does quite the opposite. Perhaps I am dense, but never on CSPAN have I heard a politician stand and tell us what a poor country this is and how we should not trust those in power. The people in America who do not trust the government do so because of the power that is wielded by people who do not have the interests of the public at heart.
The people tell the Government that it can't trust them, so it believes them. Double DUH!!
Sorry, you lost me again. How does the public show the government that it is untrustworthy? For the most part people are honest and worthy of respect. Additionally, you are not understanding that the Government is not an it, but a them. And surprisingly, most Government officials are also people.
Do Americans get off on beating themselves up and portraying themselves as the evil monsters, ready to spring at any moment
I'm not understanding how this relates. It is good not to trust completely. It does not make you a monster, only interesting, enlightened, and generally fun at parties.
Question everything man. People are out to get you. Albeit, they are not all politicians. Just be careful
I pity those who cannot trust. After all, it's their mistrust that makes the (percieved) "other side" mistrustful I'm with you so far...
The Government tells you it can't be trusted, so you believe it. DUH!!! Is that thick, or what?
I'm sorry, I do not understand. What government are you speaking of? In America the Government does quite the opposite. Perhaps I am dense, but never on CSPAN have I heard a politician stand and tell us what a poor country this is and how we should not trust those in power. The people in America who do not trust the government do so because of the power that is wielded by people who do not have the interests of the public at heart.
The people tell the Government that it can't trust them, so it believes them. Double DUH!!
Sorry, you lost me again. How does the public show the government that it is untrustworthy? For the most part people are honest and worthy of respect. Additionally, you are not understanding that the Government is not an it, but a them. And surprisingly, most Government officials are also people.
Do Americans get off on beating themselves up and portraying themselves as the evil monsters, ready to spring at any moment
I'm not understanding how this relates. It is good not to trust completely. It does not make you a monster, only interesting, enlightened, and generally fun at parties.
Question everything man. People are out to get you. Albeit, they are not all politicians. Just be careful
I cannot understand why anyone would pay for linux. It is free software. Why buy something when you can get it for free... or really cheap from cheapbytes. I would pay for Myth 2, or starcraft, but not stuff i can download or pay a nominal fee for.
disclaimer - I am a student and $60 is a weeks worth of groceries.
Do you really want your linux to be a "breeze"? Linux/Unix is difficult stuff. And you must learn to keep your head above water. I know GUI tools make things easier, but isn't it nice to know how your system works under the hood? I'd rather tweak config files myself...you?
Perhaps try debian. It is not a breeze, but quite useful and well designed. Also the users are quite friendly on irc.openports.net #debian
Feel free to look me up for advice or good conversation. My handle is 'santa'
How else can one detect a nic is promiscuous (sp?) mode? The Router guy at my school said that he could easily detect such things. Can anyone explain how? Is sniffing logged in the records of various network routers?
He's a real jerk so he may just be embellishing the truth.
Slashdot Mirror
I was under the impression that Compaq owned an entire Unix version. Is this not the case? For some reason I though Compaq made Alphas. If not where do Alpha's come from?
I just want a Web Browser. Please....
It doesn't need builtin Email support ... I have mutt... and it doesn't need a clone of icq or aim as there are a number of those. I think what linux needs is a useful browser. Mozilla should concentrate its efforts on making an alternative for the aging and tired netscape.
The one saving grace i see if that perhaps all of these things will be modular and thus I can easily remove icq, aim,aol*, mail, news, etc from mozilla and have a relatively lean beast.
I'm worried that this modularization may not be a reality. Anyone used netscape 4.61 for win9x? AIM is forcefully installed and cannot be uninstalled beyond deleting the files.
Question: Why do you use linux?
Because it is stable and powerful and useful. If something better comes along that has all these things, but more so than linux/*BSD will you switch? I sure as hell will.
Perhaps one of these ventures will result in an even more stable beast than linux. I truly hope it resembles unix so all this "learning linux" won't go to waste, but it was gun in any case.
I'm pushing for GNU HURD myself... maybe someday it will be a reality.
Does anyone else feel that the point of the article was to attack linux because linux users bad mouthed *BSD? I personally like *BSD's but they could use a little help from the Linux community's advancements (eg., more supported peripherals (sp?), package management system, etc)
It worked w/o a password on my own account. I was too fearful to try any others.
Explain. I thought it was interesting read at the very least and most of it sound marketing strategy. Should redhat follow these instructions I see it's profits increasing at the cost of potentially alienating free software developers not paid by redhat.
I have more luck at Deja then the LDP which appears to be quite obsolete information and i would point someone in search of help there far before i suggested the LDP. In theory it is good, but too difficulty to maintain.
I hope people contribute to it. I will... i think.
Sega and Nintendo have consistently lost ground to Sony. The playstation rocks, not because of its graphics, but because it has good games. I think, for the most part, people don't want to play games with goofy hedge-hogs and mario now that something closer to reality is possible.
I have an N64 and the only good game: Zelda 64. Does anyone know of any others that are playable?
Glint is an old packaging tool in the redhat 5.x days. As I understand the installer has no name.
side note: Does debian's installer have a name? (I'm betting it does, but it is unpublicized)
That's really interesting. Thanks for enlightening me.
Why don't you go form your own country then? The Federation of Aristocratic Assholes.
No! That's the name of my Country. And I'm taking your ass to court, unless you care to be my first citizen. You can expect a fruitful life of plenty and happiness and the ocassional beating (as i see fit).
AOL is just a big company with software that does not appeal to me at this time. As long as they improve netscape, then more power to them for having a crappy tv-channel. I won't watch... you can if you want to.
Thanks alot.
I care about movies and The Who, but I think some Floyd plugs would have been nice (R. Waters is on tour right now.).
I did not think that this article was that bad. The code needs some revision and more planning, but OTP is a encryption possibility. It seems good to have as many options as possible.
I don't understand why you'd visit a site if you did not care for the subject matter.
Has anyone else noticed that slashdot's banner adds appear a good thirty seconds to a minute before the page appears on win32-ie5 and linux-potato-netscape-461? A conspiracy? I think yes.
After an initial secure communication of random bytes, you can send the same amount of data over insecure communication routes in absolutely perfect security.
I don't think thats correct. As I understand OTP if you re-use the key the complete security is broken. As the randomness is gome. In order to use an OTP and securely communicate with a friend you must exchange a new key before each transmission. Thus the steps would be more like
Nobody could ever crack it, no matter how many billions of dollars worth of computer equipment, no matter how much computers improve, no matter how many millenia they spend on it.
Nope. no one could crack the first one, but after that it would be possible with a difficulty depending upon how the data and key were combined.
Eat that GNOME kiddies
I like the above. I like KDE's look and feel, but it is not very easy to configure. I Hate having kfm always ask if I am sure I wish to delete files and many of its other quirks. I do like kfm as an internet browser. I wish I could simply use it as such and diable the desktop icons, etc.
Gnome is nice, but I agree that not enough development is done to match the high version numbers they use.
The first poster was a troll.
E is good.
love the sig.
Your router admin sounds like a know-it-all with no real knowledge.
I agree. When i pressed him for more he copped out, mentioning security issues that prevented him from disclosing the info. I don't wanna do anything wrong. I just want to learn.
I like gnome, but i'm not very concerned with the panel or the file manager. I'm looking forward to Gzilla and their office suite.
If only someone could construct a new interface for graphical applications. My favorite at present is WindowMaker as it is relatively different from the rest (please no flames about how it too is a clone of next-step fame)
What is on Gnome's side is that gtk seems to be relatively common. Anyone have any stats on the number of applications in gtk, qt, and others? Num of coders?
Anyone know what WindowManager will be gnomes next favorite now that enlightenment is estranged?
I can't wait to see what the next version of enlightenment contains, as I recall mention of it too having greater functionality
Here we all are (in your words) jerking off on slashdot as well.
Give the kid a break. I'm sure he's a good fellow. I too am at school to learn, but atleast irc often is an attempt to increase knowledge. He could be playing quake... or solitaire.. or undressing the office 97 paperclip guy with his eyes.
I try to play a good four hours+ of starcraft a day and you'll be proud - it interrupts my sleep and not my study/classes.
I'm with you so far...
The Government tells you it can't be trusted, so you believe it. DUH!!! Is that thick, or what?
I'm sorry, I do not understand. What government are you speaking of? In America the Government does quite the opposite. Perhaps I am dense, but never on CSPAN have I heard a politician stand and tell us what a poor country this is and how we should not trust those in power. The people in America who do not trust the government do so because of the power that is wielded by people who do not have the interests of the public at heart.
The people tell the Government that it can't trust them, so it believes them. Double DUH!!
Sorry, you lost me again. How does the public show the government that it is untrustworthy? For the most part people are honest and worthy of respect. Additionally, you are not understanding that the Government is not an it, but a them. And surprisingly, most Government officials are also people.
Do Americans get off on beating themselves up and portraying themselves as the evil monsters, ready to spring at any moment
I'm not understanding how this relates. It is good not to trust completely. It does not make you a monster, only interesting, enlightened, and generally fun at parties.
Question everything man. People are out to get you. Albeit, they are not all politicians. Just be careful
I'm with you so far...
The Government tells you it can't be trusted, so you believe it. DUH!!! Is that thick, or what?
I'm sorry, I do not understand. What government are you speaking of? In America the Government does quite the opposite. Perhaps I am dense, but never on CSPAN have I heard a politician stand and tell us what a poor country this is and how we should not trust those in power. The people in America who do not trust the government do so because of the power that is wielded by people who do not have the interests of the public at heart.
The people tell the Government that it can't trust them, so it believes them. Double DUH!!
Sorry, you lost me again. How does the public show the government that it is untrustworthy? For the most part people are honest and worthy of respect. Additionally, you are not understanding that the Government is not an it, but a them. And surprisingly, most Government officials are also people.
Do Americans get off on beating themselves up and portraying themselves as the evil monsters, ready to spring at any moment
I'm not understanding how this relates. It is good not to trust completely. It does not make you a monster, only interesting, enlightened, and generally fun at parties.
Question everything man. People are out to get you. Albeit, they are not all politicians. Just be careful
I cannot understand why anyone would pay for linux. It is free software. Why buy something when you can get it for free... or really cheap from cheapbytes. I would pay for Myth 2, or starcraft, but not stuff i can download or pay a nominal fee for.
disclaimer - I am a student and $60 is a weeks worth of groceries.
Do you really want your linux to be a "breeze"? Linux/Unix is difficult stuff. And you must learn to keep your head above water. I know GUI tools make things easier, but isn't it nice to know how your system works under the hood? I'd rather tweak config files myself...you?
Perhaps try debian. It is not a breeze, but quite useful and well designed. Also the users are quite friendly on irc.openports.net #debian
Feel free to look me up for advice or good conversation. My handle is 'santa'
How else can one detect a nic is promiscuous (sp?) mode? The Router guy at my school said that he could easily detect such things. Can anyone explain how? Is sniffing logged in the records of various network routers?
He's a real jerk so he may just be embellishing the truth.
-matt