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S.u.S.E 6.2 English released
josepha48 writes "I just found out that SuSE 6.2 is released. Check out the latest details in English It has X 3.3.4 and kernel 2.2.10. " Release schedule looks like 18th for English, tomorrow for French, and Italian/Spanish on the 24th of August.
where y is even: stable kernel
where y is odd: development kernel
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Er, 6.1 is on their ftp site, with an ISO image; see for exeample mirror ats use/i386/evaluation-6.1.iso
http://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.suse.com/pub/
I dont know what the difference between the evaluation version and the normal one is, presumably all the commercial software on it.
$ insmod toaster.o /dev/ts0 /mnt/toaster
/dev/ts0: Error: toaster on fire. Suggest emergency eject. /dev/ts0
/dev/ts0: Toaster in use, ejection lever locked. /mnt/toaster /dev/ts0 not responding, possibly on fire. /dev/ts0 is still mounted.
ToastMaster detected. Installing toast-1.1 module.
$ mount
$ eject
$ umount
Error:
$ rmmod toaster.o
Cannot unload module.
Aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeee! :)
-- Excerpted from Digital Screams: Why I Hate the Transistor, by Joh'omme Diwaand, pub. 2137 by Retro Press.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
If you aren't a 100% web based company, the effect of your homepage to your business is negligible. I like SuSE's homepage, I know where to find what and don't have to search through a design which changes every two days.
:-)
Don't let this become a RH vs. SuSE thread.
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too bad suse sucks.
2.2.10 has nasties in.
I just purchased the previous SuSE package a couple days ago. Monday evening, to be exact. And two days later, they announce the next package. Is this all a covert trick to aggravate me?
Oh well, life sucks, just have to keep going on.
Oh, and for anyone who's not familiar with it, I'd say that SuSE installs pretty darn easily. Considering it was the first time I'd installed Linux and I managed to do it without too much effort. Still tailoring the details however (like getting sound).
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"You know your god is man-made when he hates all the same people you do."
Of course, this is (AFAIK) quite possibly the best Linux distro ever, since it contains some really cool software right there on the CD. Darn, that's a nice feeling! Hm, time to switch out my 3-year old patchwork Slackware? Naah... ;^)
main(O){10<putchar(4^--O?77-(15&5128 >>4*O):10)&&main(2+O);}
Please explain
Read the README which is in the same directory as yast on the installation cd (can also be found on ftp servers which carry ftp.suse.com).
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They have 6.1 on their ftp site, or you can do an install over ftp (never tried that). Generally they seem to lag a bit on getting the latest and greatest up there. And they don't have ISO images of the whole distrib (which kinda ticks me off). I have a subscription to SuSE, so I'll get it fairly soon, but my ADSL is 80 KBs so I might as well get some use out of it right?
I must say that $35 for 1 years subscription (translates to 3 or 4 shipments) beats the hell out of $80 bucks for redhat. Crikey.
The evaluation version is just a cut down version of the distrib, still has X and a lot of other things, but yeah I think you're right about it having no commercial stuff on it. Still it was the eval version that sucked me into SuSE. SaX is great.
They have 6.1 on their ftp site, or you can do an install over ftp (never tried that). Generally they seem to lag a bit on getting the latest and greatest up there. And they don't have ISO images of the whole distrib (which kinda ticks me off). I have a subscription to SuSE, so I'll get it fairly soon, but my ADSL is 80 KBs so I might as well get some use out of it right?
I must say that $35 for 1 years subscription (translates to 3 or 4 shipments) beats the hell out of $80 bucks for redhat. Crikey.
This has to be the single most perverse AC stunt I've ever seen. It'll take what, 11 moderator points to bang it down? Jesus.
Nice job, though. ^_^
Give Bill Gates a kiss for me.
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Go to www.cheapbytes.com and buy yourself a $2 copy. Unlike SuSE, Red Hat is free, and therefore cheaper. Red Hat the company sells support.
SuSE will be proprietary for a long time. I sure as heck hope they don't win this battle. I'd hate to see Linux turn into another Windows. If they become the dominant distrib, it's pretty clear that's where they'll take it.
It causes file system corruption and has other major problems. It's really annoying that SuSE has this need to be bleeding edge, and ends up giving Linux a bad rap for stability.
SuSE can also afford a bit more than Red Hat. They aren't undercut by $2 CDs because of their proprietary license.
Second number even is normally stable:
2.2.10
However, 2.2.10 cause file system corruption and has other issues, so SuSE did ship a bad kernel.
You can download an ISO of their scaled down "evaluation" version. Otherwise, they release their own stuff under proprietary licenses, and pack plenty of third party proprietary stuff, so you cannot download an ISO image.
Alan reckons he's fixed all the corruption bugs he has had reports for except ones which are almost certainly hardware, and the TCP leak in 2.2.11 is fixed in an errata or the ac patches. It's certainly much better than 2.2.10.
then download the latest patch stupid
You could do some kind of trick to get the whole thing
-download the evaluation-iso (currently only 6.1)
-install it
-download the whole ftp-distro here
- tell yast to take the downloaded ftp-distro as installation-source
i didn't try it
There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don't.
I guess this 1.89 Suse 6.0 CD that I have on my desk is a figment of my imagination.
Anyone know if this latest distro from SuSE will provide either of the following?:
A graphical login including the gnome environment
A preconfigured setup for gnome (i.e. such as the
one rhat has at the present time)
Mein gott! I am so confused. Next you will tell me that there's better Chinese character support in yet another distro!
...
;-)
At last, some non-RH news
Will in Seattle
So why didn't you just get it through cheapbytes, instead of wasting our time?
Then we could have just ignored you.
Will in Seattle
Memory leak in the TCP code, and another in the rtl8139 driver.
I ate something that disagreed with me. Maybe I should have cooked him first.
Oops. Insufficiently verbose. The aforementioned bugs are in 2.2.11; this means it's a good idea to either downgrade, or wait a couple of days for 2.2.12
I ate something that disagreed with me. Maybe I should have cooked him first.
Hmmmm. I see mentions of subscriptions on SuSE's (English) site, but their ordering page doesn't seem to list subscriptions as an option -- just their assorted one-time-purchase packages. Odd. Perhaps that's just lagging a bit?
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
Do you really want your linux to be a "breeze"? Linux/Unix is difficult stuff. And you must learn to keep your head above water. I know GUI tools make things easier, but isn't it nice to know how your system works under the hood? I'd rather tweak config files myself...you?
Perhaps try debian. It is not a breeze, but quite useful and well designed. Also the users are quite friendly on irc.openports.net #debian
Feel free to look me up for advice or good conversation. My handle is 'santa'
Their kernel should be 2.2.10 + patches (ie bits of 2.2.11). I'd check whats in their source before you actually worry too much. Remember SuSE and RedHat are the two vendors with clueful kernel hackers. They aren't going to make bad mistakes
I cannot understand why anyone would pay for linux. It is free software. Why buy something when you can get it for free... or really cheap from cheapbytes. I would pay for Myth 2, or starcraft, but not stuff i can download or pay a nominal fee for.
disclaimer - I am a student and $60 is a weeks worth of groceries.
I have a 33.6 connection, for which I pay 1-1.5p (1.5-2.5 cents) per minute. I can get 5 (or is it 6 now?) CDs of stuff for 24.95ukp - want to bet I could download all that successfully in 1600mins? Also, the cost covers a 400 page manual and 60 days tech suppt. Pretty good deal for me, no?
Not your business. But SuSE have same level of
Chinese character support as RH.
You don't have to use Yast if you don't like it. Just install Linuxconf or hack the files yourself.
The best thing about SuSE is the quality and sheer number of the included packages, as well as the SaX XFree setup tool (GPL'd, in case you're interested).
And YaST's license is no big deal either. Source is available, modifiable, distributable.
You just have to ask if you want to sell it for more than the media cost (so the 2$ CD's are usually OK). Thats nothing else than with mySQL or the Cyrus IMAP server.
I did not exactly say what was printed but it is close. Must be the editor. Tis ok.
Although I do not use SuSE it is always interesting to see what they are doing . I have tried them, and was disappointed that they have an evaluation version which differs from what is at there ftp site. In fact that turned me off from them right there. If it is at there ftp site, they should allow you to burn images of from ftp to cd IMHO. SuSE has a little list of what can be included for companies like linuxmall and linuxcentral. Thus for those of us who do not have large bandwidth connections (read 28.8 like me) getting a cdrom is always better but in this case does not include all of what is at there ftp site. Yes I could buy official distro, but then I also know that later this year they will probably have another distro out and spending $100 a year is no fun.
Redhat at least lets companies download what is at there ftp site and burn to cdrom, and that is also how Mandrake came about.
Yes SuSE is a bit easier to install than RH, but not that much.
I have tried both SUSE and RH and will stick with Redhat for now until SUSE lightens up there ftp cdrom burning practices.
so don't bash RH cause you don't like them, as they do contribute back to the community, more so than SUSE.
Only 'flamers' flame!
I had the same problem with 6.1 (nothing but errors with gnome...), but 6.2 seems to be a very clean distro (I've been using it for about a week now) Gnome seems to work fine, altough I only run the panel and gmc under WM, all gnome-apps I tried so far seemed to work proberly. I was quite impressed with the all the software they shipped, I only had to throw in a couple of dockapps and i was set up and running. The V3 now also runs out of the box i had GLQW,Q2,Q3 running in no time. However there were a couple of pitfalls with 6.2: 1. The Suse Kernel somehow got troubles with bttv (no mather wether you use the precompiled or compile your own) ==> after I compiled the normal 2.2.10 and deleted all the preinstalled modules everything was fine. 2. I couldn't get Kppp or Gppp running (pppd daemon dies unescpectedyl) wvdial works fine tough. 3. The Staroffice media-key provided works only for the german version (well if you get the english version of Suse it's probably the other way round...) downloading a new key from stardivision doens't work neither, versions seem to change every couple of weeks and the keys are incompatible...well the german version ins't to bad either, I only need to get prober typestting to work... 4.SaX doens't recongize V3 altough the workaround is simple for this (==>selected generic) it'll run without any problems with the xsvga server (I really like SaX, I'm running at a happy 1120x840 res ==> the largest res a Samsung 17GLI can still display at 75Hz) All in all I can say that i really like the new 6.2 it's a lot more "complete" than 6.1 or 6.0 were...Suse really seems to be getting good at it
What are you doing dave????
Everything in the package (except the pay dir I believe) is downloadable... of ftp sites... and give the people a break you get 6 CDs with LOADS of stuff on it. In Germany the investment of paying for the CDs is worth it as it comes MUCH cheaper then paying the download. Plus there is nothing wrong with copying a friends CDs so you can buy it with 5 people and just make a couple of copies on 99c goldbacks.
Other than that have you ever considered that those people (and the people at Debian, RH, etc.) work their butts of trying to improve an already superior OS and making a complete package and you don't want to give them the common decentsy of actually PAYING them for their work?
AFter an experiment with both KDE and GNOME/E I'm back to WindowMaker. Its never given me any problems and the dock apps are great!
get a life
...agree with you more. let's make this a Debian vs. SuSE thread. 8)
(* Debian is a truly free ditribution that puts GNU into Linux and will be embracing the egcs compiler with the upcoming 2.2 (potato) release.)
i admit it, i never used SuSE, could someone tell me what the package selection there is and how is it so nice? i have heard people rave about it, but i myself enjoy installing/removing packages with dselect. so why is SuSE better? and i don't care about the ease of system installation because after doing it once with debian and once with redhat i learned that following correct instructions will almost always result in a working machine.
tia, mike
I was thinking of how to intentionally fail my drug test... It would make a good memoir story someday.
Other people report similar problems. I wouldn't run 2.2.11 (nor -ac*) on any production system.
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Lag? I did an FTP install of 6.1 from the website while I waited for my CDs. DSL is great-) When my CDs finally showed up they were older then the copy I got off the ftpsite. If you check the website they have had UPDATES for 6.2 for a couple of weeks. The thing hasn't even shipped yet and they are putting out updates. I like that. If thats lagging I'll take it.
Ever since version 5.0, RedHat has produced extremely crappy distributions with huge errata lists, bugs and quirks everywhere and lousy quality of packaging.
The reason for their success? They are like M$ a marketing company.
The have gained their status by fooling customers (see Gnome 1.0 release) through the press, badmouthing other (even free) projects and dividing the Linux community .
It would be a shame if history repeated itself, and RedHat would be successful with their ruthless M$ style, while others like SuSE who care for quality would have to stand back...
Stop that SuSE-bashing bullshit.
There is nothing that stops you from offering ISO images of ALL SuSE CDs except for the disk space you need.
You can get everything from the SuSE ftp site (with the possible exception of StarOffice, which you can get fromStarDivision).
It's pretty clear that the mirrors don't want to hold 6 ISO images when the same stuff is already available.
If you can download the stuff anyway, burn the eval-CD and update the rest via YaST from the ftp server. With a slow internet connection, buy 2$ CDs from Linuxmall or copy those from friends.
And no, YaST is not 'proprietary' in the sense as we know it. You can modify the source and distribute it, just selling it for big bucks requires SuSEs consent. Considering that they are developing it alone (unlike Linuxconf), that's fine with me.
Other than that, SuSE is no more proprietary that other distros (and considerably less so than e.g. Caldera).
SaX e.g. is GPL'd.
Why bother going with a Linux vendor when you could use NT and then you'd have proper support and if something goes wrong you can sue Microsoft. Who are you going to sue if you're using Linux, a few hackers? You've got the assurance of the richest man in the world if you go MS.
I want it to be a breeze.
I started using Slackware in '93 (IIRC) and learned *all* about doing things by hand. I still prefer compiling new software than blindly installing downloaded RPMs. After an install my packages slowly get replaced with new versions compiled by me.
I know how to edit an XF86Config file. When I first started using X I kept forgetting how to install X and I hand wrote my file using the man page and the howto for references. It obviously took a while.
I know how it all works. I now use SaX. It does most everything doing it from scratch can do, but in less time. So now I generate one from SaX and make a couple of minimal changes. Changes most people don't care about.
YaST is a godsend. It does most things intelligently. If you hand edit a file, it'll detect that and save any changes in a file called filename.SuSEConfig so that you can compare the two and make changes yourself. Network setup is real easy. It took a while for me to generate config files for two NICs and masquerading on Slackware by hand, but I backed them up for subsequent installs. I thought about writing a program to automate all of this. Then I found SuSE. It turns out to be exactly what I wanted to do, but on a much larger scale.
Personally, I'd rather spend my time writing programs to do new stuff than fool around doing stuff I no longer need to do anymore.
I tried Debian twice. Why does it take so long to configure packages after install? And why do most of them fail? Most of the time it doesn't tell you why. If the packages aren't going to work, I might as well install Slackware again and compile everything from scratch. Fortunately, the SuSE packages have a very high success-rate.
Actually, if you're pushing Debian from a "hard-to-use, you'll-learn-a-lot" perspective, you should probably be pushing Slackware instead.
hmm... AFAIK there is a project called Chinese Language Extension (CLE). They have incorporated many useful Chinese programs, fonts, input methods and such into RH disto. For some time they posted their wanted to port the CLE to other distos like s.u.s.e and slackware.. but i donno how far has been done. If you are interested, go to give a hand :)
is that I had just bought OSS sound a few ...
months before and then I realized that it
came free with SuSE. S.H.I.T.
Of course. All development must be in English. Nevermind that most Linux development is done in Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany, France etc. I see RedHats share value has increased again.
You haven't have you? That's why you use RH.
I've been playing with my 6.1 distribution and I've noticed that they stick the OSS sound drivers in the SuSEd kernel. I've got a Trident 4DWave DX soundcard in my machine right now - which is only supported under ALSA I think.
Is ALSA on the CD's somewhere? Can I patch it in without killing the kernel?
Hang on SuSEy, SuSEy hang on... Whoa too many egg mcmuffins this morning...
I am wondering.. is Yast under the GPL yet?
Kernel 2.2.10 got some serious bugs in it
2.2.11 is a much better one, and you can download it from SuSE web pages quite easily
Hetz (Heunique)
Sorry about the subject line, but I thought everything was supposed to come out in English first.
So they are shipping with an old kernel and a unstable version of X both with known deficiencies. So are they going to be true to SuSE form and forward all bug reports in their known-to-be-buggy software to the XFree team and the kernel list? Maybe they can get XFree to stop doing unstable releases instead of just closing their development tree.
In fact, I had 2.2.11 running with SuSE 6.1 and after SuSE 6.2 installed its 2.2.10, all I had to do was to remove the soft-link to their kernel-sources and replace it with the one I had before. make dep bzlilo modules modules_install, and I had a perfectly running SuSE 6.2 based on kernel 2.2.11. No "nasties", no problems.
BTW, I have no idea why everybody keeps insisting that SuSE will only work with a SuSE-modified kernel. The only time I have a SuSE-kernel installed is right after a SuSE-upgrade. The next boot already happens with a standard kernel from kernel.org. Again, no "nasties", no problems.
Still SuSE is my favourite distribution. Maybe redhat should too concentrate on coding more than on their web site design. Seems like SuSE is created by hardocre hackers I know we all love these guys :)
The usual AC from Eastern Europe this time.
Been using suse 6.1 for a while, i thought it was definately the best distro i had tried, until i tried caldera open linux 2.2, it kicks butt, yeah so im bitching about one distro being better than another, sue me.:)
SuSE is quite good for the newbie. It got a great manual shipped with it, not to talk about the cds full of programs. YaST is a great tool when you want to install Linux to a computer with no cd-rom attached.
The hype about SuSE only running with SuSE-Kernels is all LIES! I installed a SuSE 6.0 and upgraded to 2.0.37 from kernel.org. It booted without any flaws.
AFAIK the only difference in the SuSE-Kernel is the added support for ISDN but I'm no expert.
The downside with SuSE is, that the scripts are very stuffed and almost unreadable to a newbie. With this, you could say, a Slackware is better for the newbie... =:-)
CU, Ventilator
--- If OS were buildings, then the first woodpecker to come around would erase 95 % of civilization.
I have been using SuSE 6.1 for a few months and I like it, but I could never get GNOME to work properly. Last week, at the advice of a newsgroup poster I deinstalled all GNOME-related RPM's from SuSE and downloaded the SuSE RPM's from the GNOME website, including the latest vesion of Enlightenment. This worked MUCH better, and these packages seem to be much newer than what SuSE supplied, even though they look like they've been out there since June. The SuSE 6.1 box said GNOME 1.0 RPMs were included on the CDs, but judging from my experiences they seem to be much older. Naturally I'm wondering if 6.2 will improve this situation.
I really liked my SuSE 6.1 install but I switched to OL 2.2 after trying it. It doesn't have that incredible software library that is so easy to install, *sigh* and OL seems to be a little less "snappy" but it is so slick. Won't appeal to the hard core but any newbie will love it. Choice is good!
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Assuming that you are sincere in what you say, you do realize that any real support you get will be above and beyond the price of the software, and if you really think you can sue Microsoft, trying reading the disclaimer's all over your NT cd's.
Furthermore, excuse me for stating the obvious, but companies like Red Hat and Linux Care offer "traditional" support, but the informal support of the highly intelligent Linux community is unbeatible. Oh yeah, if you find any really bugs in your NT software and Microsoft pays attention, you can pay for the bug fix in the next "upgrade".
Linux Rules!
No, that would go to Slackware. That's why slackware is still in libc5 land (which will change RSN, Slack5 is nearing beta readiness).
It is common to ship Linux with the latest stable kernel, unless there are *real* showstoppers.
I would call the file corruption bug a ``showstopper.'' Perhaps SuSE isn't on the linux kernel-dev mailing list. They should be. SuSE has also shipped a snapshot version of XFree in the past, and instead of telling users to upgrade to a stable version when X had problems, they forwarded bug reports to the XF86 group. That is why XF86 development is no longer open (IE, you can't get to the in-development source trees). Now they are using 3.3.4... which (in the release notice... which you would think SuSE people would read before throwing it in the distribution) has been declared to be an intermediate, non-production-quality release.
-- Erich
Slashdot reader since 1997
I know GUI tools make things easier, but isn't it nice to know how your system works under the hood?
ummmm, yast is not a GUI tool. I think it's ncurses based. As for SAX, what's wrong with using a GUI tool to configure a GUI? I think that makes sense personally. And the othere CLI tools for setting up x are still there. You can write you're XF86Config file by hand if you want, I'll use SAX.
well, before start your lawsuits, (you must be American...), think about this: wouldn't you have rather been able to SOLVE your problem and not need to get lawyers involved?
.. and Did they solve your problem?
p sychics.html
Searching dejanews, I've been able to find answers to almost every linux question I've ever had.
So... how many times have *you* called Micros~1 support? How long did you wait? How much did you pay?
the following answers don't count as "solving your problem"
- you need to reboot
- you need to reinstall all of your software
- you need to upgrade to our beta version
check out the following for an interesting MS support story:
http://epoch.cs.berkeley.edu:8000/~mct/funny/ms
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Umm, no subject, no body, no nothing.
Why does slash allow null comments to be posted?
Weird, it says "SuSE Linux 6.2 - with Kernel 2.2.10, KDE 1.1.1 and XFree 3.3.4. " yet the SlashSlut poster somehow managed to miss KDE in that list.
A short description or an url to some info would be useful.
Assuming NT and linux had equal stability and reliability experience, if you compare the 2 you the following
/.ers linux lacks in this area) $1,500 to pay someone to set it up assuming you dont have a full time admin. (Redhat support is included for several months) $5,000 basic linuxcare yearly contract
:-)
NT linux
web server n y
mail server n y
Free support n y (if you use redhat)
Database n y
Programming tools
n y
console commands
(limited) y
Terminal server n y
>10 clients n y
and all this for a 1/20th of the price of NT and the $1,000 version of NT server only allows 10 cleints for all.
Now lets compare costs of a 350 client corporate network.
NT client licence: somewhere around $3,500
Linux client licence: 79$
Excahnge server: $3,500 and probably $10,000 for 350 users.
Snedmail: Free
Terminal server $599 with a $50 client access license
Linux already has built in connectivity for dumb terminals: free
Support contract (NT does not have any support at all beyond 2 phone calls contary to popular believe): $10,000 a year (not including sys admins)
Support contract: (to be fair you need a sys admin to install linux. Sorry
Database: Sql server $1,000 (you might need to pay another rediculous client access license. I am not sure again.) $3,500
Now lets do the math assuming technically that NT and linux are equal.
Linux is still $79 dollars and has tools and scripts and script making tools for sys admins to customize you server and will run on muc less hardware. TO be fair I will add the cost of a new server because even a 486 or pentium would choke if all of these services were running on it. SO how about 2 $3,000 servers. Linux can easily work with 2 $3000 servers and have plenty of processing power.
With NT you need 3 $5,000 for $15,000 servers for reduncancy from crashes and for lack of scability.
Linux NT
Total $6070 $42000 (assuming NT's cleint access license is $3,500)
There is a HUGE differecne
Now for software alone the prices are:
linux NT
$79 $23,000
(all prices compared from the top of my post.)
hahaha
The prices say it all and just look at the wonderfull features of both OS's at the top of my post not to mention zdlabs showed a test where linux outcompeted NT by %250.
The reason NT is the only OS considered for some bussinesses just bongles my mind.
Yes, I want my Linux to be a breeze with potential for a hurricane. Since I still consider myself a newbie, the YaST approach appeals big time to me. I don't want to have to swap back to Win98 (necessary due to crappy HW) everytime I need to find a new config file or do something else a bit more complicated. By and by, I get into the more advanced tasks --- and SuSE allows for that *as well*, apart from being **really** nice to the newbies!!
The fact that I was introduced to Linux in a village just outside Nuremburg has biased me.
-- Exile Who do you want to be tomorrow
If their evaluation version is the same that they let german newspapers distribute --- then it's quite ok but **clearly** on the small side; doesn't even have the fortune cookie generator!!
I have SuSE 5.3 and thought I'd get a good deal when upgrading to 6.1 with one of these magazine-cds. Result: since 5.3 is libc5 and 6.1 glibc2, most of my applications went dead... luckily I discovered it when I installed the whole shaboom on a friend's computer; he wanted to discover it a bit and got a (partly) working SuSE with the advice of buying himself the distribution asap...
Now I'm just waiting for my next salary so that I finally can enter the world of glibc2 myself...
(SuSE 5.3 can run glibc2 programs, but that hack seems to be above my abilities...)
-- Exile Who do you want to be tomorrow
It's here.
;^)
How could you dare to think there is something that's not on the SUSE CDs
BTW, SuSE has hired the main ALSA developer and hosts the project homepage.
So I guess they will be the driving force behind ALSA in the future...
....I was led to believe the even-numbered kernel releases were to be treated as beta, so am rather surprised to see the 2.2.10 kernel released as part of the SuSE 6.2 distro. Does this no longer apply, or are SuSE being a little irresponsible?
"Cake or death!" (E. Izzard)
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I just spent a week trying to identify a problem that was hanging networking on random cluster nodes, associated with an nfs mounted disk. After replacing the disk yesterday, I came across the kernel notes for 2.2.9 & 10 which state "some people have reported corrupted filesystems." ...can't remember the url. Beware.
I was wondering, will they have this distribution on there ftp site? I know they have the evaluation version of 6.1, what is the evaulation version? No commercial apps, or is there some limited usage or what?
=) Sounds neat, I've been using Redhat and Mandrake for two years, it'd be enlightening to try a different distribution. Does anyone have any pointers to a high speed site with ISO images ready for burning? I know one great thing about Mandrake is that they eagerly provide it to you.
Thanks in advance for any pointers
even-numbered means it is stable. much better than shipping with the unstable odd-numbered versions. 8)
I was thinking of how to intentionally fail my drug test... It would make a good memoir story someday.
I just looked at the XFree86.org page, they say if you want the latest stable release to grab the newest 3.3.x. I believe the pre-4.0 is their development tree.
I got a email from them on the 16th saying that it was shipping that day. I had pre ordered it. I think suse is soooo much better than RedHat.
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Joshua Curtis
Lancaster Co. Linux Users Group
Second number is release - even is stable, odd is development
Third number is patch level - bug fixes, etc...
So this is a stable release (and the current development release is 2.3.x).
Thanks it worked! Damn, it getting very hard to complain about driver support these days, no?
Every software has "nasties" in it.
If you refer to the fs corruption bug which was first in 2.2.10 kernels, I don't think that was found already (therefore it's not fixed in 2.2.11). Additionally, 2.2.11 has some leaks in the TCP code. Some people reported crashes after two days due to high network traffic.
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