Regardless of how well it's marketed. I've read about the Japanese consumer market: Foreign things tend to be shunned. In Japan, anything created outside the country is likely to fail. They buy "domestic" ("domestic" being relative, of course) and avoid anything non. The government even fosters this attitude... And can you blame them? The US is starting to try the same thing. "Buy America" and other such slogans. Our technology comes from Japan, and not the other way around. Sega, Nintendo, Playstation... Every console that has made it was *Japanese*. Coincidence? Hardly.
Did you even read the first line of my post? In it, I explain that I realize this is not a serious post.
At the time, however, I had classified it as "sarcasm", but I suppose satire fits better. It *did* make me laugh. But then again, isn't that what satire is? Humorous sarcasm?
Besides, how do you know there aren't linux-disabled people reading these posts? Perhaps it answered some of their questions. How do you think I learned what I know? Precisely because of posts like this.
Okay I'm an idiot. Shoot me. The gist of the letter (found it) Does state that Jim's use of the name and logo may mislead people to believe he was associated with or endorsed by the PCI-SIG group. It does not, however, say that the website must be taken down, only that it must be modified and they, PCI-SIG, assured that there will be no confusion of his affiliation with PCI-SIG (or lack thereof, in this case).
If I'd been him, I would have just removed the logos and pasted a big "This website is not affiliated with PCI-SIG in any way, shape, or form." disclaimer. I still think his use of the logos was their main complaint, however. And before you go thinking that PCI-SIG is a big evil company bent on mass domination because they didn't want any possible confusion, the first communication directly says "request that you work through IBM to investigate the possibility of creaing a similar database of PCI(r) Vendor ID numbers..."
My immediate thought when I saw the first slashdot post, saw that Mr. Boemler had taken down the site, and read the general/. audience's response, was: "Geezus criminy, you people are all overreacting."
That's been my thought since reading the CND letter. I don't recall it saying anything about the site itself, just its use of the logos. I can't find the letter itself anymore (looks like it's been removed from the site), but there isn't a single PCI-SIG logo anywhere on it.
Based on that 5th paragraph, I can tell you're just being sarcastic. But I'm bored and feeling like explaining things, so:
1) Red Hat linux is only one distribution. Mandrake is, yes, based on Red Hat, but they aren't the same company. Red Hat does not *own* linux, nor did they even create it. Search for "Linus Torvalds" on google. Red Hat was merely one of the first companies to package it and sell it for money. I consider them the AOL of linux: They make it easier for idiots to use this operating system, what with their packagae manager.
Debian and Slackware have absolutely nothing to do with Red Hat, except providing a copy of the rpm software (mainly because it's so easy most people use it. I refuse to, I like to compile my own). Each distro has its own list of software packages that they include, and THAT'S what separates them. Each incremented version (Red Hat 7.0 vs Red Hat 8.0, or Slackware 8.0) only means there are more recent versions of the programs included, maybe some programs added or removed. I believe they all use the kernels available at kernel.org, but I could be wrong.
I personally don't think Red Hat themselves are going to get anywhere *near* as large as microsoft, but I'm sure they're trying.
2) The GPL (open-source license) is the reason linux is as big as it is today: It allows people the ability to acquire this and LEARN it, without having to shell out too much money-- Even better, it allows them to take the software and modify it, making it better or adapting it to their purpose. This is what the linux community is all about. Microsoft taking the code and changing it, and then *charging* for it (which you know they ain't gonna give nothing for free) would go against that license, and they could be sued.
What's to keep hackers from creating virii to specifically target this OS? Nothing. Except that then *they* become susceptible to this virus as well. Personal opinion, most hackers use some flavor of *nix.
3) Kill the command line? The *reason* *nix is as powerful as it is? When was the last time you were able to modify *every* one of your 1,421 mp3 files with a single command? Windows has NOT eliminated the command line. Every single version of windows (excepting maybe CE, perhaps) comes with what they call "Command Prompt" or "MS-DOS Shell". What do you think this program is? it's like the joke "Windows 98 is a 32-bit patch to a 16-bit overlay on an 8-bit operating system created by a 2-bit company." (Isn't there a "4-bit" in there?)
4) I totally agree on the games. I'd like to see linux surpass Mac on game availability. I *would* purchase games for linux that were not released under the GPL. Close-source that crap, I don't care, just don't make me boot into windows to play games! Especially you, Blizzard!
Jetblue's got it going on though... I flew from Long Beach, CA to Oakland, CA. Free video, free headsets (which they didn't ask to be returned), and it all cost less than $60.
Especially with this just being the antenna setup, not the a/v hardware... You still need either your dropdown video for the back, or in-headrest video panels, PLUS your sound system.
I'm sorry, I'll stick with my linux mp3 box. It's cheaper and no monthly costs.
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Regardless of how well it's marketed. I've read about the Japanese consumer market: Foreign things tend to be shunned. In Japan, anything created outside the country is likely to fail. They buy "domestic" ("domestic" being relative, of course) and avoid anything non. The government even fosters this attitude... And can you blame them? The US is starting to try the same thing. "Buy America" and other such slogans. Our technology comes from Japan, and not the other way around. Sega, Nintendo, Playstation... Every console that has made it was *Japanese*. Coincidence? Hardly.
Did you even read the first line of my post? In it, I explain that I realize this is not a serious post.
At the time, however, I had classified it as "sarcasm", but I suppose satire fits better. It *did* make me laugh. But then again, isn't that what satire is? Humorous sarcasm?
Besides, how do you know there aren't linux-disabled people reading these posts? Perhaps it answered some of their questions. How do you think I learned what I know? Precisely because of posts like this.
Okay I'm an idiot. Shoot me. The gist of the letter (found it) Does state that Jim's use of the name and logo may mislead people to believe he was associated with or endorsed by the PCI-SIG group. It does not, however, say that the website must be taken down, only that it must be modified and they, PCI-SIG, assured that there will be no confusion of his affiliation with PCI-SIG (or lack thereof, in this case).
/. audience's response, was: "Geezus criminy, you people are all overreacting."
If I'd been him, I would have just removed the logos and pasted a big "This website is not affiliated with PCI-SIG in any way, shape, or form." disclaimer. I still think his use of the logos was their main complaint, however. And before you go thinking that PCI-SIG is a big evil company bent on mass domination because they didn't want any possible confusion, the first communication directly says "request that you work through IBM to investigate the possibility of creaing a similar database of PCI(r) Vendor ID numbers..."
My immediate thought when I saw the first slashdot post, saw that Mr. Boemler had taken down the site, and read the general
That's been my thought since reading the CND letter. I don't recall it saying anything about the site itself, just its use of the logos. I can't find the letter itself anymore (looks like it's been removed from the site), but there isn't a single PCI-SIG logo anywhere on it.
Based on that 5th paragraph, I can tell you're just being sarcastic. But I'm bored and feeling like explaining things, so:
1) Red Hat linux is only one distribution. Mandrake is, yes, based on Red Hat, but they aren't the same company. Red Hat does not *own* linux, nor did they even create it. Search for "Linus Torvalds" on google. Red Hat was merely one of the first companies to package it and sell it for money. I consider them the AOL of linux: They make it easier for idiots to use this operating system, what with their packagae manager.
Debian and Slackware have absolutely nothing to do with Red Hat, except providing a copy of the rpm software (mainly because it's so easy most people use it. I refuse to, I like to compile my own). Each distro has its own list of software packages that they include, and THAT'S what separates them. Each incremented version (Red Hat 7.0 vs Red Hat 8.0, or Slackware 8.0) only means there are more recent versions of the programs included, maybe some programs added or removed. I believe they all use the kernels available at kernel.org, but I could be wrong.
I personally don't think Red Hat themselves are going to get anywhere *near* as large as microsoft, but I'm sure they're trying.
2) The GPL (open-source license) is the reason linux is as big as it is today: It allows people the ability to acquire this and LEARN it, without having to shell out too much money-- Even better, it allows them to take the software and modify it, making it better or adapting it to their purpose. This is what the linux community is all about. Microsoft taking the code and changing it, and then *charging* for it (which you know they ain't gonna give nothing for free) would go against that license, and they could be sued.
What's to keep hackers from creating virii to specifically target this OS? Nothing. Except that then *they* become susceptible to this virus as well. Personal opinion, most hackers use some flavor of *nix.
3) Kill the command line? The *reason* *nix is as powerful as it is? When was the last time you were able to modify *every* one of your 1,421 mp3 files with a single command? Windows has NOT eliminated the command line. Every single version of windows (excepting maybe CE, perhaps) comes with what they call "Command Prompt" or "MS-DOS Shell". What do you think this program is? it's like the joke "Windows 98 is a 32-bit patch to a 16-bit overlay on an 8-bit operating system created by a 2-bit company." (Isn't there a "4-bit" in there?)
4) I totally agree on the games. I'd like to see linux surpass Mac on game availability. I *would* purchase games for linux that were not released under the GPL. Close-source that crap, I don't care, just don't make me boot into windows to play games! Especially you, Blizzard!
Jetblue's got it going on though... I flew from Long Beach, CA to Oakland, CA. Free video, free headsets (which they didn't ask to be returned), and it all cost less than $60.
Especially with this just being the antenna setup, not the a/v hardware... You still need either your dropdown video for the back, or in-headrest video panels, PLUS your sound system.
I'm sorry, I'll stick with my linux mp3 box. It's cheaper and no monthly costs.
Of course, it would have properly been "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" But it might be better: "All Your Base Are Belong To U.S."