You'll need a fast CPU anyway (Core 2 Duo and up), gigs of RAM and the patience to live without H264 hardware acceleration if your graphics are too old or unsupported (such as Radeon 5450 under Ubuntu 16.04).
There's no other way around if feeding your computer with mounds of garbage to be parsed, interpreted, compiled and encabulated. Fun fact : didn't PDF files use to be slower than web pages? Now it's the other way around. Maybe we could make a "website" out of a PDF document with hyperlinks to other PDF files? (Just need a PDF reader willing to use gigs of RAM to cache rendered pages rather than re-rendering them constantly when you scroll the document). Or the same in ePub or other "ebook" format.
Sadly low power dedicated graphics cards aren't being made, due to integrated graphics removing the OEM market for it. The lone exception is geforce GT710 (and the GT610 before that) with a 19W TDP, and a somewhat rare nvidia GPU (GM108) on some ultrabooks. Either AMD or nvidia could make a low power GPU like that wih the latest technology and some LPDDR or DDR4 memory, if so they wished.
I don't think so. Next year Intel will launch a consumer Skylake CPU again (called Coffee Lake, with a 6-core version available) and AMD will launch a Zen 2.0 (Zen+) the year after, targetting mobile/APU first. So, it's perhaps year 2019/2020 to get your 15% improvement, followed by a fluff upgrade that brings DDR5 and PCIe 4.0.
I remember the next big thing was "the grid". There was nonsense PR about Playstation 3 consoles helping each other in a distributed computing fashion. (No, you won't farm out gaming tasks over DSL upload. It was bullshit meant to be circulated and printed.) Then it was "the cloud", but the cloud doesn't really mean anything in particular. The cloud means the datacenter, or a collection (possibly global) of datacenters, or just a couple computers running virtual machines. Or you can use "cloud" for branding of the computer grid you're talking about.
does or does not that mean Linux wins on the desktop when you have tens thousands of hooked together consumer machines in a grid
For now you still have some disguised licensing . Modern GPUs can support dozens of remote users, can be shared between several virtual machines (just like you can run 20 VM on a low end consumer CPU if you like) but that's to be found on $3000 or more "professional" GPUs, not on $300 (or $100, or $500) consumer GPUs even though the hardware is about identical.
The original statement was more about bad yields on newer processes. I.e. if your yields are only about 10% on 10nm trying to make a desktop chip then it's a terrible yield no matter what. If your yield for the former process was 80% for the same area then even if your new die is a much smaller version of the former one, it will have a worse yield overall. Wafer cost and design cost also increase.
The 10nm process has to be improved over time to get economical. That's business as usual but it's taking more and more time, perhaps years to get up to speed. Same thing happened with the 16/14 nodes. So, what come out first are high end mobile chips - highest end phones and then Intel's Core M for high margin ultra thin laptop things. Meanwhile lower end phones still are on 28nm not even 16-ish nm.
Even flash memory improvements seem to be slowing down, but that may be that demand is huge and increasing. E.g. new phones are coming with 16GB flash, though 32GB would be faster and more reliable. (Some phones are sold in two variants : 2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB. Not yet putting 32GB as standard)
Haven't these phone thingies stopped being new? Can't some vendor come up with a model that only changes every other year, rather than every 5 minutes? No wonder phones are deprecated landfill garbage the very moment they're launched, or announced to the press.
I haven't seen it nor read a full transcript, like I don't want to spoil it. The setting and conversation seem so theatrical (or dramatical, I don't know what's the best word), it could used be as the beginning of a fictional story, novel, film, TV show. It could be a fake biopic about an ill-fated but resourceful businessman, or get into a role reversal comedy. Or introduce a character at CEO's destination and build up from there.
There was a story about how Hollywood is dying because they only make film about Iron Man or old franchises. Do they still do comedies? (no magical powers, no science-fiction, no alternate reality, no fire arms..)
This Lexus has an eight cylinder engine and purportedly does 16 city mpg, 24 mpg on highway. Maybe that's expected but for a pseudo minimum wage fake-job this is much. High end cars like these might depreciate so much in part because they have high running costs. I suspect four cylinders are enough to drive people around, there are new sedans with four-cylinder turbo gasoline too.
Perhaps some TVs died and were thrown out, which cuts back on the number of TVs. If LCD TVs do no last as long as CRT TVs did this could permanently depress the average amount of TVs somewhat.
If you were a peasant but won the birthplace lottery, so you had a great climate, fertile land, political stability then perhaps life was not that bad. I'm assuming a great inequality, if you lacked any of these perhaps life sucked or was completely horrendous at times. Better to be in the upper class of course, there you had the filthy rich but some just had a creaky castle/château/manor and bad land to show for it.
I'd settle with being a rich, immoral and decadent Roman citizen with slaves who dance, play music and bring me grapes.
Some might have shit software. It's just like the bad old days of a Packard Bell with Windows 98 and XP bundled with a ton of crapware. What about you get Norton Anvitirus, Real Player, Acrobat Reader preloading with system tray icon, Packard Bell / Acer / whatever "troubleshooting" and "driver" utility, sound card special configuration GUI, webcam shitware, get a printer and install the "helpful" bundleware, Microsoft Active Desktop, yahoo/AOL/Ask Jeeves/Packard Bell toolbars in Internet Explorer, all with 128MB RAM and a Celeron with 66MHz bus? (which were screaming fast specs a year ago)
In those old days though, you installed a clean Windows from a warez CD (to save time), good drivers without "helpful" software (not included or crossed out in the installer), actually useful software like winrar, winamp, codecs etc. then that poor piece of crap PC was actually fast. You could also take your chance and clean up the crap manually without a reinstall (quit tray programs, uninstall crap, run msconfig, delete shortcuts)
Well. If continuing the PC analogy, get 2GB RAM instead of 1GB RAM, get 3GB instead of 2GB RAM, get 4GB instead of 3GB RAM (depending on price points) and pay attention to storage speed benchmarks or reviews that complain about slow storage.
Not necessarily a bad thing and kind of a selling point there.
Maybe you can hold it with one hand, scroll text and get to see a usable portion of the page that's not obscured by your thumb. Might be great for portrait keyboard too (landscape keyboard might be shit, or maybe you can get a split one)
Makes sense, and thanks. I guess best case you can live upstairs while demolishing downstairs on week-ends, but I guess I might guess wrong, and I guess there can be worse and more ridiculous things. Why not live as a renter for life and have nice savings - I'll be happy enough if I end up living that life.
I'm left worrying whether he actually meant that's what you get with $150k/year income anyway. Another idea : for a one-time $150k purchase, buy a one-car garage near SF and live in there (semi-clandestinely).
So I'm here looking at the pics, ok the kitchen has some fugly teal but at least it's big (in my country, there's often a kitchen with room to cook but not dine, even in bigger houses ; there you've got a whole room). Ok there's a fugly empty room, a bathroom with garish color, etc. WTF, there is another kitchen? Looks like a "two-family" home ain't it.
"Spacious single family home with an unwarranted In-Law apartment on the ground floor" I'm curious what "unwarranted" mean. Does that mean it's for In-Laws you hate and feel you don't deserve to live with, or you think you don't deserve to have to know them? Does that mean they sell the whole house, they didn't want to sell you the bottom apartment, but had to? Does that mean it's illegal for you to rent it to someone else? (unless you do whatever inspection, paperwork, insurance to get it "warranted" again). Do they apologize for it - they know they're selling you a crappy bottom apartment, but if you want to break it and tear down and replace everything, you'll have to do it by yourself?
I don't think my comment adds much anything to the discussion but I found that funny. If I refer to dictionary definition of "unwarranted" this is a groundless ground floor, or a baseless basement. Can someone explain why I would want to buy something "unwarranted" for $1M.
Well no, Antioch is on the Mediterranean near the Turkey/Syria border, and you get to sleep in a ruined temple that has not had a roof for a while, let alone much of walls, or under a few Roman archs. That's we can call a hellish commute.
I remember how IE5 was able to save a web page into a single file, with pictures, then Firefox couldn't do that and still can't without extensions. Also, local bookmarks are subject to data loss (hard disk crash, theft, etc.) and link rot. I wish I had a solutions for all these issues a few years back. Bookmarks suck, tabs suck, history lacks useful sorting/filtering/searching options (and might disappear anyhow)
Nobility used to die of pneumonia for this reason.
Quite a shitty deal, if the huge cold as fuck rooms and leaky roofs don't kill you, you get to sit at one of the fireplaces (wood supply is not unlimited either) and breath in fumes that are about as healthy as chain smoking.
*Back in 2000 or 2001 we had propaganda about how ADSL was so great : low frequencies for the phone and high frequencies for the DSL. So regular phone service with high per minute charges still was built-in. Up until the 2010s, aforementioned ISP advertised they had dial-up backup at no charge (using their dial up ISP side of the business) although of course the router would then be useless and you would have to use your own dial up modem.
Um, can't you use dial up? Well, I'm remembering that in my country early ADSL was a combined POTS + ADSL service, with a filter plug that had both a an old style phone plug and a RJ11 for the DSL modem. Then as alternate or smaller operators got more control of the last mile pipe or cabinets, ADSL-only service got more common and phone service (style compatible with antiques) got relegated to VoIP on the router/modem. POTS is still available (here), you need to sign up for it then POTS + ADSL might be an option. Back in 2000 or 2001
Anyway I am thinking that dial up backup would have been useful - doesn't a debit machine need like a kilobyte or less? Do ISP still support like 9600 baud or less. Or a really small 3G/4G plan - that can be another can of hair. Can you get like 500MB or 100MB data-only for $10, or does the local mobile monopoly/oligopoly not allow that?
Seems like, DSL is the wired technology that can most easily get messed up. Seen it drop dead. My former ISP are another kind of dumbfucks. The support number is a robot that tells you to check the internet site and the internet site tells you to call the support number, so you can't get support, while you're still billed monthly for the dead line. But you can call the commercial number, then you get a woman who's visibly (well, audibly) in a hurry because she's pressured by management so as to answer eight hundred calls per hour. So, after a couple monthes trying to get support through the various channels they advertise (in effect bots and wizards that waste your time), in a couple minutes I get handed the full procedure to cancel my account. Thanks a lot, LOL! For a while they turned me into a grandma who pays useless automatic bills for things she doesn't know how to deal with, now I'll forever tell everyone never to sign up with them (another lesson learned, don't get residential internet and mobile phone from the same company. I couldn't even deny the ISP's automatic bill, else I would have lost mobile phone sevice)
Where I live stores already have garbage bins for light bulbs, batteries, small electronic and electric devices like phones and toasters, routers, hair dryers and so on. A busted Xbox 360 would easily fit in there. Some tiny "recycling" tax, maybe European, is advertised on high tech crap. So while your idea is likable, the problem is it's already done, and it's too easy.
More like today's per-core software licensing, I would say. I bet the price of the additional hardware was negligible in this case (but, a not fully populated board would still have been a lot cheaper to make). Maybe manufacturing a whole new mainframe was expensive, but not nearly as much as what they charged in sales/rent/leasing/charges. Rather than with a Nintendo or a home computer, I think it should be compared with a jet fighter program. Spend a zillion on R&D then only build a few hundreds or thousands computers of that model, if that. Then a jet fighter is sold for many multiples of unit production cost and the customer gets to pay for maintenance and shit for decades.
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You'll need a fast CPU anyway (Core 2 Duo and up), gigs of RAM and the patience to live without H264 hardware acceleration if your graphics are too old or unsupported (such as Radeon 5450 under Ubuntu 16.04).
There's no other way around if feeding your computer with mounds of garbage to be parsed, interpreted, compiled and encabulated.
Fun fact : didn't PDF files use to be slower than web pages? Now it's the other way around.
Maybe we could make a "website" out of a PDF document with hyperlinks to other PDF files? (Just need a PDF reader willing to use gigs of RAM to cache rendered pages rather than re-rendering them constantly when you scroll the document). Or the same in ePub or other "ebook" format.
Sadly low power dedicated graphics cards aren't being made, due to integrated graphics removing the OEM market for it. The lone exception is geforce GT710 (and the GT610 before that) with a 19W TDP, and a somewhat rare nvidia GPU (GM108) on some ultrabooks.
Either AMD or nvidia could make a low power GPU like that wih the latest technology and some LPDDR or DDR4 memory, if so they wished.
nvidia almost released a 15W graphics card with a Maxwell GPU
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gef...
I don't think so. Next year Intel will launch a consumer Skylake CPU again (called Coffee Lake, with a 6-core version available) and AMD will launch a Zen 2.0 (Zen+) the year after, targetting mobile/APU first.
So, it's perhaps year 2019/2020 to get your 15% improvement, followed by a fluff upgrade that brings DDR5 and PCIe 4.0.
I remember the next big thing was "the grid". There was nonsense PR about Playstation 3 consoles helping each other in a distributed computing fashion. (No, you won't farm out gaming tasks over DSL upload. It was bullshit meant to be circulated and printed.)
Then it was "the cloud", but the cloud doesn't really mean anything in particular. The cloud means the datacenter, or a collection (possibly global) of datacenters, or just a couple computers running virtual machines. Or you can use "cloud" for branding of the computer grid you're talking about.
does or does not that mean Linux wins on the desktop when you have tens thousands of hooked together consumer machines in a grid
For now you still have some disguised licensing . Modern GPUs can support dozens of remote users, can be shared between several virtual machines (just like you can run 20 VM on a low end consumer CPU if you like) but that's to be found on $3000 or more "professional" GPUs, not on $300 (or $100, or $500) consumer GPUs even though the hardware is about identical.
The original statement was more about bad yields on newer processes. I.e. if your yields are only about 10% on 10nm trying to make a desktop chip then it's a terrible yield no matter what. If your yield for the former process was 80% for the same area then even if your new die is a much smaller version of the former one, it will have a worse yield overall. Wafer cost and design cost also increase.
The 10nm process has to be improved over time to get economical. That's business as usual but it's taking more and more time, perhaps years to get up to speed. Same thing happened with the 16/14 nodes. So, what come out first are high end mobile chips - highest end phones and then Intel's Core M for high margin ultra thin laptop things. Meanwhile lower end phones still are on 28nm not even 16-ish nm.
Even flash memory improvements seem to be slowing down, but that may be that demand is huge and increasing.
E.g. new phones are coming with 16GB flash, though 32GB would be faster and more reliable. (Some phones are sold in two variants : 2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB. Not yet putting 32GB as standard)
Haven't these phone thingies stopped being new? Can't some vendor come up with a model that only changes every other year, rather than every 5 minutes? No wonder phones are deprecated landfill garbage the very moment they're launched, or announced to the press.
I haven't seen it nor read a full transcript, like I don't want to spoil it. The setting and conversation seem so theatrical (or dramatical, I don't know what's the best word), it could used be as the beginning of a fictional story, novel, film, TV show. It could be a fake biopic about an ill-fated but resourceful businessman, or get into a role reversal comedy. Or introduce a character at CEO's destination and build up from there.
There was a story about how Hollywood is dying because they only make film about Iron Man or old franchises. Do they still do comedies? (no magical powers, no science-fiction, no alternate reality, no fire arms..)
This Lexus has an eight cylinder engine and purportedly does 16 city mpg, 24 mpg on highway.
Maybe that's expected but for a pseudo minimum wage fake-job this is much. High end cars like these might depreciate so much in part because they have high running costs.
I suspect four cylinders are enough to drive people around, there are new sedans with four-cylinder turbo gasoline too.
Perhaps some TVs died and were thrown out, which cuts back on the number of TVs. If LCD TVs do no last as long as CRT TVs did this could permanently depress the average amount of TVs somewhat.
If you were a peasant but won the birthplace lottery, so you had a great climate, fertile land, political stability then perhaps life was not that bad.
I'm assuming a great inequality, if you lacked any of these perhaps life sucked or was completely horrendous at times.
Better to be in the upper class of course, there you had the filthy rich but some just had a creaky castle/château/manor and bad land to show for it.
I'd settle with being a rich, immoral and decadent Roman citizen with slaves who dance, play music and bring me grapes.
Some might have shit software. It's just like the bad old days of a Packard Bell with Windows 98 and XP bundled with a ton of crapware. What about you get Norton Anvitirus, Real Player, Acrobat Reader preloading with system tray icon, Packard Bell / Acer / whatever "troubleshooting" and "driver" utility, sound card special configuration GUI, webcam shitware, get a printer and install the "helpful" bundleware, Microsoft Active Desktop, yahoo/AOL/Ask Jeeves/Packard Bell toolbars in Internet Explorer, all with 128MB RAM and a Celeron with 66MHz bus? (which were screaming fast specs a year ago)
In those old days though, you installed a clean Windows from a warez CD (to save time), good drivers without "helpful" software (not included or crossed out in the installer), actually useful software like winrar, winamp, codecs etc. then that poor piece of crap PC was actually fast. You could also take your chance and clean up the crap manually without a reinstall (quit tray programs, uninstall crap, run msconfig, delete shortcuts)
Well. If continuing the PC analogy, get 2GB RAM instead of 1GB RAM, get 3GB instead of 2GB RAM, get 4GB instead of 3GB RAM (depending on price points) and pay attention to storage speed benchmarks or reviews that complain about slow storage.
Not necessarily a bad thing and kind of a selling point there.
Maybe you can hold it with one hand, scroll text and get to see a usable portion of the page that's not obscured by your thumb.
Might be great for portrait keyboard too (landscape keyboard might be shit, or maybe you can get a split one)
Makes sense, and thanks. I guess best case you can live upstairs while demolishing downstairs on week-ends, but I guess I might guess wrong, and I guess there can be worse and more ridiculous things.
Why not live as a renter for life and have nice savings - I'll be happy enough if I end up living that life.
I'm left worrying whether he actually meant that's what you get with $150k/year income anyway.
Another idea : for a one-time $150k purchase, buy a one-car garage near SF and live in there (semi-clandestinely).
So I'm here looking at the pics, ok the kitchen has some fugly teal but at least it's big (in my country, there's often a kitchen with room to cook but not dine, even in bigger houses ; there you've got a whole room). Ok there's a fugly empty room, a bathroom with garish color, etc.
WTF, there is another kitchen? Looks like a "two-family" home ain't it.
"Spacious single family home with an unwarranted In-Law apartment on the ground floor"
I'm curious what "unwarranted" mean. Does that mean it's for In-Laws you hate and feel you don't deserve to live with, or you think you don't deserve to have to know them? Does that mean they sell the whole house, they didn't want to sell you the bottom apartment, but had to?
Does that mean it's illegal for you to rent it to someone else? (unless you do whatever inspection, paperwork, insurance to get it "warranted" again). Do they apologize for it - they know they're selling you a crappy bottom apartment, but if you want to break it and tear down and replace everything, you'll have to do it by yourself?
I don't think my comment adds much anything to the discussion but I found that funny. If I refer to dictionary definition of "unwarranted" this is a groundless ground floor, or a baseless basement. Can someone explain why I would want to buy something "unwarranted" for $1M.
Well no, Antioch is on the Mediterranean near the Turkey/Syria border, and you get to sleep in a ruined temple that has not had a roof for a while, let alone much of walls, or under a few Roman archs. That's we can call a hellish commute.
I remember how IE5 was able to save a web page into a single file, with pictures, then Firefox couldn't do that and still can't without extensions.
Also, local bookmarks are subject to data loss (hard disk crash, theft, etc.) and link rot. I wish I had a solutions for all these issues a few years back. Bookmarks suck, tabs suck, history lacks useful sorting/filtering/searching options (and might disappear anyhow)
5K for utilities in a small house in good climate? I hope not so..
Nobility used to die of pneumonia for this reason.
Quite a shitty deal, if the huge cold as fuck rooms and leaky roofs don't kill you, you get to sit at one of the fireplaces (wood supply is not unlimited either) and breath in fumes that are about as healthy as chain smoking.
Likely, you can buy a nice house with $150K/year on the mortgage :)
*Back in 2000 or 2001 we had propaganda about how ADSL was so great : low frequencies for the phone and high frequencies for the DSL. So regular phone service with high per minute charges still was built-in.
Up until the 2010s, aforementioned ISP advertised they had dial-up backup at no charge (using their dial up ISP side of the business) although of course the router would then be useless and you would have to use your own dial up modem.
Um, can't you use dial up? Well, I'm remembering that in my country early ADSL was a combined POTS + ADSL service, with a filter plug that had both a an old style phone plug and a RJ11 for the DSL modem. Then as alternate or smaller operators got more control of the last mile pipe or cabinets, ADSL-only service got more common and phone service (style compatible with antiques) got relegated to VoIP on the router/modem. POTS is still available (here), you need to sign up for it then POTS + ADSL might be an option. Back in 2000 or 2001
Anyway I am thinking that dial up backup would have been useful - doesn't a debit machine need like a kilobyte or less? Do ISP still support like 9600 baud or less.
Or a really small 3G/4G plan - that can be another can of hair. Can you get like 500MB or 100MB data-only for $10, or does the local mobile monopoly/oligopoly not allow that?
Seems like, DSL is the wired technology that can most easily get messed up. Seen it drop dead. My former ISP are another kind of dumbfucks. The support number is a robot that tells you to check the internet site and the internet site tells you to call the support number, so you can't get support, while you're still billed monthly for the dead line. But you can call the commercial number, then you get a woman who's visibly (well, audibly) in a hurry because she's pressured by management so as to answer eight hundred calls per hour. So, after a couple monthes trying to get support through the various channels they advertise (in effect bots and wizards that waste your time), in a couple minutes I get handed the full procedure to cancel my account. Thanks a lot, LOL! For a while they turned me into a grandma who pays useless automatic bills for things she doesn't know how to deal with, now I'll forever tell everyone never to sign up with them (another lesson learned, don't get residential internet and mobile phone from the same company. I couldn't even deny the ISP's automatic bill, else I would have lost mobile phone sevice)
Where I live stores already have garbage bins for light bulbs, batteries, small electronic and electric devices like phones and toasters, routers, hair dryers and so on.
A busted Xbox 360 would easily fit in there. Some tiny "recycling" tax, maybe European, is advertised on high tech crap.
So while your idea is likable, the problem is it's already done, and it's too easy.
More like today's per-core software licensing, I would say. I bet the price of the additional hardware was negligible in this case (but, a not fully populated board would still have been a lot cheaper to make).
Maybe manufacturing a whole new mainframe was expensive, but not nearly as much as what they charged in sales/rent/leasing/charges. Rather than with a Nintendo or a home computer, I think it should be compared with a jet fighter program. Spend a zillion on R&D then only build a few hundreds or thousands computers of that model, if that. Then a jet fighter is sold for many multiples of unit production cost and the customer gets to pay for maintenance and shit for decades.
The ability to charge at 500mA is everywhere.