Nope, California, you can vote for a variety of choices
Sure you can vote for Feinstein or DeLeon, wow that's variety. Old socialist crook, or young communist up and comer.
Oh that's the senate lets look a district seeing as you like to talk about Gerrymandering
You have Matsui vs Jefferson Lee Vs Wells
Hell at least with gerrymandering you have people from different parties running with at least nominally different viewpoints.
A cynical person might think you like this system because it makes sure there are districts where it's literally impossible for Democrats to lose, and hate gerrymandering because it at least gives a shot.
Good for you. Not everyone likes the idea of being packed into a sardine can with people that didn't have the water to wash up. But it's great to see you being honest about this. So many of the left just wont admit there isn't anything but raw emotion and bad socialization behind their positions.
Yup. Even a high level intellectual labor force needs its servants. Don't worry in a few years we will invent robots to replace most of them. Just like we already replaced flyover inhabitants with robots. Turns out a servant without a high school degree is harder to replace than a Texan.
You people are all so cute, when you try to get under someone's skin. But congratulations you did manage to hit the ways to lose an argument on the internet, cognitive dissonance, bad analogy, appeal to emotion a hat trick there.
What's wrong with conserving water in an arid climate. If you want to live in a given ecological zone (i.e. reclaimed desert) you need to adapt or move.
I don't know why are you spending 70+ billion on a train system that isn't needed or wanted but not building water projects so you won't stink ? (well stink more)
I also might just ask why you are comfortable with the people making/paying for these problems not having to live with them while people like you do. (An assumption on my part but it seems likely)
Yup, California and the civilized states do export our garbage to the third world. China was our dump for outdated electronics, Texas is the dump for the those who are not fit to receive an education or thrive in intellectual/high-skilled workforce.
Oh that is why you are importing a population that 50% hasn't achieved a high school degree ?
Yes, unlike the heavily gerrymandered states under Republican thuggery,
Yes in California you can vote for the communist or the socialist and if you don't live in a coastal enclave forget about even that non choice registering.
Funny how you can only mention Texas, while you dare not speak of Mississippi, Alabama, or Kansas or other hotbeds of deep-seated conservative thought.
It's ok, you'd rather deny their failures exist. Or Texas's own.
How much did New York and New Jersey get from the banking bailout ? No mention of California already having the highest poverty rate in the country ? Just how do you count the value of warping our foreign policy so Hollywood can crackdown on "Piracy" all over the world ? Seems you have a bigger set of omissions
But anyway the idea is conservatives predict problems from California's bad government and they don't come to pass ?
Every year, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates the number of people who move across state lines. In the five years from 2012 to 2016, a net of 521,052 Californians moved out. Their most popular destination was Texas, with a net of 114,413 Californians moving 1,300 miles east to Texas. California lost about 1.4 percent of its population to other states over five years.
I know introspection isn't a strong suit for you lot but such an obvious thing ?
I also need to ask wrong or just lying ?
Meanwhile the conservative states are insolvent and living off of State scale welfare
Meanwhile the conservative states are insolvent and living off of State scale welfare. It really is funny/ironic that the group who champions that they are the economically informed tribe have 3rd world levels of GDP per population.
Time to build more nuclear power plants, re-open San Onofre, and extend the life of Diablo Canyon. Nuclear energy is both clean and reliable, especially when combined with renewables.
You are correct on the logic and facts unfortunately for the people of California you are wrong about what is actually driving this. This isn't about clean power, lets face it Nuclear doesn't need renewables at all it's cheap especially when we are talking about existing installations that just need to be maintained and fueled. It also doesn't have the disadvantage of creating rolling blackouts.
What nuclear doesn't do, is put money in the pockets of people backing California politicians and because it has been smeared, it would actually mean they would need to take a stand and fight for the benefit of the people of the state.
Do you really see any CA politician fighting for the benefit of their constituents instead of just trying to pit them against each other while robbing them ?
Seeing as they are already importing a quarter of their electricity.
Look on the bright side all you people that want solar, will finally have it. It will be the only power anyone can actually afford in California. Of course anyone that actually needs reliable power at reasonable prices is going to be out of there.
I make money by understanding the consequences of today's actions by computer modeling them (just one tool among many).
I know that all 'competent modelers' can get the model to say exactly what they want. That is the definition of 'competent modeler'.
When modeling is being done in earnest, it is an adversarial process.
I find you to be less than credible.
If for no other reason than
You have never in your life run any sort of simulation model for a serious purpose. It is obvious.
demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of what it is needed to turn a simulation's predictions into usable information that risks can be taken on.
Who told you this nonsense? It's just physics with perhaps a tiny bit of input from biology. Economics and weather prediction aren't involved.
Through your life have you had the nagging suspicion you're a simpleton ?
I ask because we are talking about deforestation and drying in the Sahara, and you just characterized the input of biology as tiny. We are also talking about the cost of moving icebergs to provide water vs cost of importing wheat and you characterized economics and weather as uninvolved. I don't even want to think about secondary and tertiary effects that haven't been properly quantified let alone addressed.
And here we have another example of how global warming confuses people who don't understand averages.
Well that puts me in good company, seeing as the people making the predictions claim to have synthesized physics, biology, economics, and weather prediction into a unified system that predicts the future.
Jesus H Christ do you people just make this stuff up on the spot ?
The two researchers have looked into precipitation patterns of the Holocene era and compared them with present-day movements of the intertropical convergence zone, a large region of intense tropical rainfall. Using computer models and other data, the researchers found links to rainfall patterns thousands of years ago.
"The framework we developed helps us understand why the heaviest tropical rain belts set up where they do," Korty explains.
"Tropical rain belts are tied to what happens elsewhere in the world through the Hadley circulation, but it won't predict changes elsewhere directly, as the chain of events is very complex. But it is a step toward that goal."
The Hadley circulation is a tropical atmospheric circulation that rises near the equator. It is linked to the subtropical trade winds, tropical rainbelts, and affects the position of severe storms, hurricanes, and the jet stream. Where it descends in the subtropics, it can create desert-like conditions. The majority of Earth's arid regions are located in areas beneath the descending parts of the Hadley circulation.
"We know that 6,000 years ago, what is now the Sahara Desert was a rainy place," Korty adds.
"It has been something of a mystery to understand how the tropical rain belt moved so far north of the equator. Our findings show that that large migrations in rainfall can occur in one part of the globe even while the belt doesn't move much elsewhere.
Model results clearly show the early Holocene patterns indicated by proxy records, including both the decreased effective moisture in arid central Asia, which occurs in the model primarily during the winter months, and the increase in summer monsoon precipitation in south and east Asia. The model results suggest that dry conditions in the early Holocene in central Asia are closely related to decreased water vapor advection due to reduced westerly wind speed and less evaporation upstream from the Mediterranean, Black, and Caspian Seas in boreal winter. As an extra forcing to the early Holocene climate system, the Laurentide ice sheet and meltwater fluxes have a substantial cooling effect over high latitudes, especially just over and downstream of the ice sheets, but contribute only to a small degree to the early Holocene aridity in central Asia. Instead, most of the effective moisture signal can be explained by orbital forcing decreasing the early Holocene latitudinal temperature gradient and wintertime surface temperature.
it already is, and the greedy are to blame for it. go unfettered capitalist greed. this is what happens when you don't regulate. consolidation. globalization.
Greedy when people who are taking your stuff Social Justice when you are taking their stuff.
You're out in the wilderness and somebody's WiFi is screwing up the colors of the forest and making everything look strange, while the cell towers are driving the wildlife nuts. / sarcasm
I'd love to hear these people justify how this in anyway diminishes them.
Already May well be the most overloaded operator in the English language. As it seems to mean anything anyone anywhere takes objection to, or otherwise makes them feel bad.
Maybe it just sounds too much like 40 years of businesses claiming there was a shortage of engineers in the U.S. when what they meant was there was a shortage of engineers that could be treated really badly.
Or maybe it's the fact that companies only seem to be willing to hire H1Bs that will do anything not to go back to their shitholes, or young kids who are stupid enough to believe managements promises and have no family or social life to distract from putting in 80+ hour weeks ?
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Don't worry. I didn't expect someone with Southern sympathy to understand "words."
Don't worry nobody expects much of you, least of all coherent thought.
Nope, California, you can vote for a variety of choices
Sure you can vote for Feinstein or DeLeon, wow that's variety. Old socialist crook, or young communist up and comer.
Oh that's the senate lets look a district seeing as you like to talk about Gerrymandering
You have Matsui vs Jefferson
Lee Vs Wells
Hell at least with gerrymandering you have people from different parties running with at least nominally different viewpoints.
A cynical person might think you like this system because it makes sure there are districts where it's literally impossible for Democrats to lose, and hate gerrymandering because it at least gives a shot.
I love trains, especially fast ones. Build more.
Good for you. Not everyone likes the idea of being packed into a sardine can with people that didn't have the water to wash up. But it's great to see you being honest about this. So many of the left just wont admit there isn't anything but raw emotion and bad socialization behind their positions.
Yup. Even a high level intellectual labor force needs its servants. Don't worry in a few years we will invent robots to replace most of them. Just like we already replaced flyover inhabitants with robots. Turns out a servant without a high school degree is harder to replace than a Texan.
You people are all so cute, when you try to get under someone's skin. But congratulations you did manage to hit the ways to lose an argument on the internet, cognitive dissonance, bad analogy, appeal to emotion a hat trick there.
What's wrong with conserving water in an arid climate. If you want to live in a given ecological zone (i.e. reclaimed desert) you need to adapt or move.
I don't know why are you spending 70+ billion on a train system that isn't needed or wanted but not building water projects so you won't stink ? (well stink more)
I also might just ask why you are comfortable with the people making/paying for these problems not having to live with them while people like you do. (An assumption on my part but it seems likely)
Yup, California and the civilized states do export our garbage to the third world. China was our dump for outdated electronics, Texas is the dump for the those who are not fit to receive an education or thrive in intellectual/high-skilled workforce.
Oh that is why you are importing a population that 50% hasn't achieved a high school degree ?
https://www.migrationpolicy.or...
Yes, unlike the heavily gerrymandered states under Republican thuggery,
Yes in California you can vote for the communist or the socialist and if you don't live in a coastal enclave forget about even that non choice registering.
Funny how you can only mention Texas, while you dare not speak of Mississippi, Alabama, or Kansas or other hotbeds of deep-seated conservative thought.
It's ok, you'd rather deny their failures exist. Or Texas's own.
How much did New York and New Jersey get from the banking bailout ?
No mention of California already having the highest poverty rate in the country ?
Just how do you count the value of warping our foreign policy so Hollywood can crackdown on "Piracy" all over the world ?
Seems you have a bigger set of omissions
But anyway the idea is conservatives predict problems from California's bad government and they don't come to pass ?
Hows those permanent water restrictions doing https://www.sacbee.com/news/po...
Hey the snail darter is thanking you that has to count for something.
Are you iterate much?
Funny you should ask that
Every year, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates the number of people who move across state lines. In the five years from 2012 to 2016, a net of 521,052 Californians moved out. Their most popular destination was Texas, with a net of 114,413 Californians moving 1,300 miles east to Texas. California lost about 1.4 percent of its population to other states over five years.
I know introspection isn't a strong suit for you lot but such an obvious thing ?
I also need to ask wrong or just lying ?
Meanwhile the conservative states are insolvent and living off of State scale welfare
Meanwhile the conservative states are insolvent and living off of State scale welfare. It really is funny/ironic that the group who champions that they are the economically informed tribe have 3rd world levels of GDP per population.
Texas called and is laughing at you
Texas Laps California in Job and Population Growth
https://www.forbes.com/sites/c...
Do lefties just make everything up ?
Time to build more nuclear power plants, re-open San Onofre, and extend the life of Diablo Canyon. Nuclear energy is both clean and reliable, especially when combined with renewables.
You are correct on the logic and facts unfortunately for the people of California you are wrong about what is actually driving this. This isn't about clean power, lets face it Nuclear doesn't need renewables at all it's cheap especially when we are talking about existing installations that just need to be maintained and fueled. It also doesn't have the disadvantage of creating rolling blackouts.
What nuclear doesn't do, is put money in the pockets of people backing California politicians and because it has been smeared, it would actually mean they would need to take a stand and fight for the benefit of the people of the state.
Do you really see any CA politician fighting for the benefit of their constituents instead of just trying to pit them against each other while robbing them ?
https://www.eia.gov/todayinene...
Seeing as they are already importing a quarter of their electricity.
Look on the bright side all you people that want solar, will finally have it. It will be the only power anyone can actually afford in California. Of course anyone that actually needs reliable power at reasonable prices is going to be out of there.
I thought we were talking about global warming.
hmm
Engineering Firm Plans To Tow Icebergs From Antarctica To Parched Dubai
Thought did you ?
You'd be completely WRONG about that.
I make money by understanding the consequences of today's actions by computer modeling them (just one tool among many).
I know that all 'competent modelers' can get the model to say exactly what they want. That is the definition of 'competent modeler'.
When modeling is being done in earnest, it is an adversarial process.
I find you to be less than credible.
If for no other reason than
You have never in your life run any sort of simulation model for a serious purpose. It is obvious.
demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of what it is needed to turn a simulation's predictions into usable information that risks can be taken on.
Who told you this nonsense? It's just physics with perhaps a tiny bit of input from biology. Economics and weather prediction aren't involved.
Through your life have you had the nagging suspicion you're a simpleton ?
I ask because we are talking about deforestation and drying in the Sahara, and you just characterized the input of biology as tiny.
We are also talking about the cost of moving icebergs to provide water vs cost of importing wheat and you characterized economics and weather as uninvolved.
I don't even want to think about secondary and tertiary effects that haven't been properly quantified let alone addressed.
You have never in your life run any sort of simulation model for a serious purpose. It is obvious.
You have never made money from understanding the consequences of todays actions on tomorrow's world. It is obvious.
This is correct. After all these years I still make the mistake of thinking I am talking to other than ideological shock troops.
And here we have another example of how global warming confuses people who don't understand averages.
Well that puts me in good company, seeing as the people making the predictions claim to have synthesized physics, biology, economics, and weather prediction into a unified system that predicts the future.
Puts Hari Seldon to shame there.
Jesus H Christ do you people just make this stuff up on the spot ?
The two researchers have looked into precipitation patterns of the Holocene era and compared them with present-day movements of the intertropical convergence zone, a large region of intense tropical rainfall. Using computer models and other data, the researchers found links to rainfall patterns thousands of years ago.
"The framework we developed helps us understand why the heaviest tropical rain belts set up where they do," Korty explains.
"Tropical rain belts are tied to what happens elsewhere in the world through the Hadley circulation, but it won't predict changes elsewhere directly, as the chain of events is very complex. But it is a step toward that goal."
The Hadley circulation is a tropical atmospheric circulation that rises near the equator. It is linked to the subtropical trade winds, tropical rainbelts, and affects the position of severe storms, hurricanes, and the jet stream. Where it descends in the subtropics, it can create desert-like conditions. The majority of Earth's arid regions are located in areas beneath the descending parts of the Hadley circulation.
"We know that 6,000 years ago, what is now the Sahara Desert was a rainy place," Korty adds.
"It has been something of a mystery to understand how the tropical rain belt moved so far north of the equator. Our findings show that that large migrations in rainfall can occur in one part of the globe even while the belt doesn't move much elsewhere.
Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2016-12-...
And for the general case in central Asia.
https://link.springer.com/arti...
Model results clearly show the early Holocene patterns indicated by proxy records, including both the decreased effective moisture in arid central Asia, which occurs in the model primarily during the winter months, and the increase in summer monsoon precipitation in south and east Asia. The model results suggest that dry conditions in the early Holocene in central Asia are closely related to decreased water vapor advection due to reduced westerly wind speed and less evaporation upstream from the Mediterranean, Black, and Caspian Seas in boreal winter. As an extra forcing to the early Holocene climate system, the Laurentide ice sheet and meltwater fluxes have a substantial cooling effect over high latitudes, especially just over and downstream of the ice sheets, but contribute only to a small degree to the early Holocene aridity in central Asia. Instead, most of the effective moisture signal can be explained by orbital forcing decreasing the early Holocene latitudinal temperature gradient and wintertime surface temperature.
It hasn't always been a desert and the historical evidence is that it was human activity turned it into a desert.
Possibly not rainforest, but forest.
Yeah NO. Try again. Unless you want to credit human activity for the glaciers receding.
Can't even keep your predictions straight ? Global warming is supposed to make the world wetter.
it already is, and the greedy are to blame for it. go unfettered capitalist greed. this is what happens when you don't regulate. consolidation. globalization.
Greedy when people who are taking your stuff
Social Justice when you are taking their stuff.
You're out in the wilderness and somebody's WiFi is screwing up the colors of the forest and making everything look strange, while the cell towers are driving the wildlife nuts. / sarcasm
I'd love to hear these people justify how this in anyway diminishes them.
Already May well be the most overloaded operator in the English language. As it seems to mean anything anyone anywhere takes objection to, or otherwise makes them feel bad.
Maybe it just sounds too much like 40 years of businesses claiming there was a shortage of engineers in the U.S. when what they meant was there was a shortage of engineers that could be treated really badly.
Or maybe it's the fact that companies only seem to be willing to hire H1Bs that will do anything not to go back to their shitholes, or young kids who are stupid enough to believe managements promises and have no family or social life to distract from putting in 80+ hour weeks ?