Obvious response: massive overhead in time taken to wipe individual drives. It's very, very, very slow. If it takes 4 hours a drive and you have a couple of hundred, this is a problem. This is why the correct answer is "buy cheap storage, invest in a pillar drill, destroy old drive with drillbit thru platters plus associated paperwork"
When I log into Live Contacts, I see my Facebook and Twitter contacts. I'm not sure if this is because I authorised FB and Twitter via Live, or whether it's because I'm signed into FB and Twitter as accounts on my phone. I do not see my Exchange or Google contacts in there. I don't think the phone has a concept of local contacts, to be honest, I think they have to be a mirror of a remote service: be it Live, or Exchange, or Gmail etc...
OK, well since you asked nicely...and I'm not using a phone browser to respond now...
Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft. I'm not part of the Windows Phone team, I'm not a sales guy, I just happen to be MSFT and so was given an HTC Mozart running Windows Phone 7 back in January. It's my work phone. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S2 as a personal phone.
My Mozart's running Mango but AFAIK the Live contacts sync was also the same for 7.0.
As I say, mine's synced to work Exchange Server, and also to GMail. I have a Windows Live ID, but I use this for sign-in permissions on Xbox Live, various MS sites and nothing else - not for email, not for contacts or calendar. My Live ID uses an email address using my own domain, it's not associated with a Hotmail account or anything else.
What I think is the case is that if you ONLY set it up with a Windows Live account for email (i.e. no Exchange, no Gmail, no POP mail) then it will want to sync all or nothing - mail and calendar and contacts, and you can't disable them individually. If you have an alternate email account setup this isn't the case.
If I go into settings...email and accounts I have Windows Live. In there is a "Content to synchronise" with a checkbox for "email" - nothing else. I presume if I checked this (I haven't) that it may be something happens with contacts.
I also have Outlook (Exchange sync) which has the option of synching email, contacts, calendar, tasks with individual checkboxes for all of them.
Same for Gmail - separate check boxes for email, contacts and calendar.
The use case I'm not sure about (and I haven't got time to test it as, well, it's my work phone) is if you don't use any other email accounts at all and just use Live. If you do this, *perhaps* the phone does not have the concept of "on the phone" contacts and needs to sync them *somewhere*. As I have Exchange and Gmail, when I create a new contact it asks me where I want to put them - in Gmail, or in Exchange or Windows Live. As I've not ticked "sync email" in Windows Live on the phone, it doesn't prompt me to sync them there at all. Not sure what happens if you have a POP mail account set up.
So, in this case I guess you have the option of running an Exchange mailbox (either hosted if acceptable to you or on your own mail server) or an open-source equivalent that you host yourself. There is no longer the option (as in WM6) of syncing your contacts via a USB cable to a local copy of Outlook rather than via an online service of some sort - this is also the case for WebOS, Android (apart from with some cludges) and iOS - strangely...
As I say, this is just my finding, don't speak for my employer etc etc...
The forum post is incorrect, or at least incomplete.
With Exchange (and possibly gmail or pop mail) enabled, you do not have to sync anything to Windows Live.
If you configure it for Windows Live Mail, this may not be the case. I'd test it but the lmgtfy jab makes me less inclined to try.
I have my Microsoft-issued Win7 phone in front of me now...
Broken link.
Anyway, mine doesn't synch contacts to Live. Whether this is because I use EAS, I don't know. If you supply a link to an MS KB article or similar then I'll pass it on to Product Group...
Live contact sync isn't enabled on mine. I'm using mine with Exchange and Gmail...You do need a Live ID but it doesn't actually do much if you don't use the services such as hotmail etc. In order to buy stuff off the market it needs a method of billing you, which is why it's mandatory to create a Live ID.
To be honest, for most people *any* current laptop is perfectly capable of dealing with Facebook, email, music and writing a few documents. And cheap enough that you can just buy a new trailing-edge one every couple of years...
Your criteria are probably power and performance. Hers were looks and lightweight portability. Both are equally valid criteria for spending your own money...
Contrast to Stuxnet. Langner Communications, who are a small outfit of a few people, first started analysing it. "Langner also realized after analyzing the Stuxnet code that it was designed to disable a particular nuclear facility in Iran. That's serious business, he figured. Some Iranian nuclear scientists, he remembered, had been mysteriously killed. Langner published his findings anyway."
If someone (let's just say for example the US Government) were to devote years of work to creating a worm so advanced that researchers said it looked "like alien technology" and I was a small firm who first noticed it, I'm not sure I'd be as brave...
I suppose the point of this story is that there seems to be something in the water for big corporation's CEOs. HP's binning of the disastrous Apoteker, and now RIMs continual slide into irrelevance.
What RIM had with BB was a rock solid, entrenched-in-corporate-enterprise messaging platform. Trusted. Secure communication and secure devices with real on-device encryption, remote wipe etc. They had all this in a time before cheap, consumer smartphones did decent messaging and before Exchange ActiveSync etc was on iOS, Android and Windows Phone.
What they have now is a product that is totally outdated from a hardware and software perspective compared to the competition, their core messaging business is under attack from cheaper EAS (and CEOs that want to use an iPhone!), and they've squandered their reputation for security by allowing various governments across the world backdoor access to their systems.
Then they launch the Playbook. A device no-one asked for, that didn't even have messaging built into it on launch. The went up against Apple, Android and Windows Phone's ecosystems with pretty much nothing. No target market, not a chance in hell of competing in the consumer or enterprise space on features (no ecosystem), on price (Apple's purchase of their components outright in massive quantities means you can't build iPad quality devices cheaper than Apple can, and Android is owning the lower end) or anywhere else.
Doomed from the start - it'll be on firesale within the month, just like the HP Touchpad*
RIP RIM. I think your patent IP are probably the only value in the company right now.
* I have 2 firesale Touchpads. I really like WebOS and they were a bargain for the price. However at least WebOS has PreWare and a homebrew dev community and is pretty vibrant - see the recent massive resurgence in interest when they went on discount. It's the 2nd most popular tablet in the world now!
Whether a 2nd firesale-price tablet from RIM would be attractive to as many people is debatable...
Next generation of Windows server running on small, cheap, low power, ARM, system-on-chip servers. Cheap, commodity stuff. Parallel to MS starting to use this to supply their hosted Azure services, I can see private cloud in enterprise running on much the same sort of thing. Stateless machines, much like Azure. It won't suit everybody, but I bet this is the way it's going to go. Why burn power on Intel machines when you can save heat, power and space with SoC stuff?
This is a guess only, but I think it'd make sense for MS...
Guess what? No-one wants to deal with a department. They have business objectives they want to be able to achieve, and they want to pay for someone to deliver those as painlessly as possible, at the lowest cost possible. This is why they probably founded an IT Department. If that department is too slow or sluggish to deliver, they'll go elsewhere..."The Cloud" just offers them the chance to get what they want at a predictable, fixed cost...
On top of this, if provoked far enough who's to say that the big G won't push GDocs to compete with Office 365, or put its might behind an open source database to aim at cannibalising SQL sales etc?
actually, I've just double checked, and you're correct! Sorry. I still have an Orange-branded splash screen on boot, but no big problem. But I stand corrected, the Orange apps are uninstallable.
Well, yes. My Windows 7 work phone, for example, runs on the UK Orange network. It came in an Orange-branded box, it has Orange-branding within the phone software, and Orange apps bundled with it that can't be removed. Annoying, yes, but standard practice in the phone world. It also has HTC-specific apps built into it such as the HTC hub.
If it turns out that a network is bundling crapware with the handset that uses too much data in some conditions, or a vendor such as HTC has a bug in their app, then I wouldn't blame MS for it.
It's a big "if", but it's a definite possibility and until we know the reason I suggest we stop getting so hysterical about it.
1GB is considered a lot by most phone companies on a cellular plan. Most of UK networks are downgrading their "unlimited" to mean "500MB/month" right now - see the recent furore about t-mobile.
I will put money on it not being anything like that interesting.
It'll probably turn out to be either a crucial app vendor or a launch partner that they don't want to annoy - e.g. if it turned out that one of the HTC apps or the Facebook app was doing it. Until they know for sure, and work out how to fix it they probably want to be a little coy about what's causing it.
Anyway, it's not affecting that many users as far as I can tell. I've got an HTC Mozart for work that's not doing it, after checking my data usage.
This is nothing. Compare to this: £9.99 down, £18/month for a new Samsung netbook with 3G dataplan. http://threestore.three.co.uk/dealsummary.aspx?offercode=24LP1GD031
Standard UK government grandstanding and soundbytes. The only reason they're offering this is because a) it makes good media coverage, and b) someone is making a profit out of it.
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Obvious response: massive overhead in time taken to wipe individual drives. It's very, very, very slow. If it takes 4 hours a drive and you have a couple of hundred, this is a problem. This is why the correct answer is "buy cheap storage, invest in a pillar drill, destroy old drive with drillbit thru platters plus associated paperwork"
When I log into Live Contacts, I see my Facebook and Twitter contacts. I'm not sure if this is because I authorised FB and Twitter via Live, or whether it's because I'm signed into FB and Twitter as accounts on my phone. I do not see my Exchange or Google contacts in there. I don't think the phone has a concept of local contacts, to be honest, I think they have to be a mirror of a remote service: be it Live, or Exchange, or Gmail etc...
OK, well since you asked nicely...and I'm not using a phone browser to respond now...
Disclaimer: I work for Microsoft. I'm not part of the Windows Phone team, I'm not a sales guy, I just happen to be MSFT and so was given an HTC Mozart running Windows Phone 7 back in January. It's my work phone. I also have a Samsung Galaxy S2 as a personal phone. My Mozart's running Mango but AFAIK the Live contacts sync was also the same for 7.0.
As I say, mine's synced to work Exchange Server, and also to GMail. I have a Windows Live ID, but I use this for sign-in permissions on Xbox Live, various MS sites and nothing else - not for email, not for contacts or calendar. My Live ID uses an email address using my own domain, it's not associated with a Hotmail account or anything else.
What I think is the case is that if you ONLY set it up with a Windows Live account for email (i.e. no Exchange, no Gmail, no POP mail) then it will want to sync all or nothing - mail and calendar and contacts, and you can't disable them individually. If you have an alternate email account setup this isn't the case. If I go into settings...email and accounts I have Windows Live. In there is a "Content to synchronise" with a checkbox for "email" - nothing else. I presume if I checked this (I haven't) that it may be something happens with contacts.
I also have Outlook (Exchange sync) which has the option of synching email, contacts, calendar, tasks with individual checkboxes for all of them. Same for Gmail - separate check boxes for email, contacts and calendar.
The use case I'm not sure about (and I haven't got time to test it as, well, it's my work phone) is if you don't use any other email accounts at all and just use Live. If you do this, *perhaps* the phone does not have the concept of "on the phone" contacts and needs to sync them *somewhere*. As I have Exchange and Gmail, when I create a new contact it asks me where I want to put them - in Gmail, or in Exchange or Windows Live. As I've not ticked "sync email" in Windows Live on the phone, it doesn't prompt me to sync them there at all. Not sure what happens if you have a POP mail account set up.
So, in this case I guess you have the option of running an Exchange mailbox (either hosted if acceptable to you or on your own mail server) or an open-source equivalent that you host yourself. There is no longer the option (as in WM6) of syncing your contacts via a USB cable to a local copy of Outlook rather than via an online service of some sort - this is also the case for WebOS, Android (apart from with some cludges) and iOS - strangely...
As I say, this is just my finding, don't speak for my employer etc etc...
The forum post is incorrect, or at least incomplete. With Exchange (and possibly gmail or pop mail) enabled, you do not have to sync anything to Windows Live. If you configure it for Windows Live Mail, this may not be the case. I'd test it but the lmgtfy jab makes me less inclined to try. I have my Microsoft-issued Win7 phone in front of me now...
Broken link. Anyway, mine doesn't synch contacts to Live. Whether this is because I use EAS, I don't know. If you supply a link to an MS KB article or similar then I'll pass it on to Product Group...
but the more diseases you cure with antibiotics, the longer people live...and the more treatment is required to treat age-related issues...
I guess potentially they could be one time pads...although when we get to this level of paranoia then the turrists definitely *have* won
Live contact sync isn't enabled on mine. I'm using mine with Exchange and Gmail...You do need a Live ID but it doesn't actually do much if you don't use the services such as hotmail etc. In order to buy stuff off the market it needs a method of billing you, which is why it's mandatory to create a Live ID.
To be honest, for most people *any* current laptop is perfectly capable of dealing with Facebook, email, music and writing a few documents. And cheap enough that you can just buy a new trailing-edge one every couple of years...
Your criteria are probably power and performance. Hers were looks and lightweight portability. Both are equally valid criteria for spending your own money...
Contrast to Stuxnet. Langner Communications, who are a small outfit of a few people, first started analysing it.
"Langner also realized after analyzing the Stuxnet code that it was designed to disable a particular nuclear facility in Iran. That's serious business, he figured. Some Iranian nuclear scientists, he remembered, had been mysteriously killed. Langner published his findings anyway."
If someone (let's just say for example the US Government) were to devote years of work to creating a worm so advanced that researchers said it looked "like alien technology" and I was a small firm who first noticed it, I'm not sure I'd be as brave...
I suppose the point of this story is that there seems to be something in the water for big corporation's CEOs. HP's binning of the disastrous Apoteker, and now RIMs continual slide into irrelevance.
What RIM had with BB was a rock solid, entrenched-in-corporate-enterprise messaging platform. Trusted. Secure communication and secure devices with real on-device encryption, remote wipe etc. They had all this in a time before cheap, consumer smartphones did decent messaging and before Exchange ActiveSync etc was on iOS, Android and Windows Phone.
What they have now is a product that is totally outdated from a hardware and software perspective compared to the competition, their core messaging business is under attack from cheaper EAS (and CEOs that want to use an iPhone!), and they've squandered their reputation for security by allowing various governments across the world backdoor access to their systems.
Then they launch the Playbook. A device no-one asked for, that didn't even have messaging built into it on launch. The went up against Apple, Android and Windows Phone's ecosystems with pretty much nothing. No target market, not a chance in hell of competing in the consumer or enterprise space on features (no ecosystem), on price (Apple's purchase of their components outright in massive quantities means you can't build iPad quality devices cheaper than Apple can, and Android is owning the lower end) or anywhere else.
Doomed from the start - it'll be on firesale within the month, just like the HP Touchpad*
RIP RIM. I think your patent IP are probably the only value in the company right now.
* I have 2 firesale Touchpads. I really like WebOS and they were a bargain for the price. However at least WebOS has PreWare and a homebrew dev community and is pretty vibrant - see the recent massive resurgence in interest when they went on discount. It's the 2nd most popular tablet in the world now!
Whether a 2nd firesale-price tablet from RIM would be attractive to as many people is debatable...
Um, so how would the drivers present themselves to a vanilla PC, if not via FAT?
Next generation of Windows server running on small, cheap, low power, ARM, system-on-chip servers. Cheap, commodity stuff. Parallel to MS starting to use this to supply their hosted Azure services, I can see private cloud in enterprise running on much the same sort of thing. Stateless machines, much like Azure. It won't suit everybody, but I bet this is the way it's going to go. Why burn power on Intel machines when you can save heat, power and space with SoC stuff?
This is a guess only, but I think it'd make sense for MS...
...people who are not nuclear engineers talking about why nuclear engineers are Doing It Wrong.
Next week, Bricklayers wonder about space.
there you go, fella
there you go, dude
Just sent you one.
Guess what? No-one wants to deal with a department. They have business objectives they want to be able to achieve, and they want to pay for someone to deliver those as painlessly as possible, at the lowest cost possible. This is why they probably founded an IT Department. If that department is too slow or sluggish to deliver, they'll go elsewhere..."The Cloud" just offers them the chance to get what they want at a predictable, fixed cost...
Unless you're using it to make a really serious point...
On top of this, if provoked far enough who's to say that the big G won't push GDocs to compete with Office 365, or put its might behind an open source database to aim at cannibalising SQL sales etc?
actually, I've just double checked, and you're correct! Sorry. I still have an Orange-branded splash screen on boot, but no big problem. But I stand corrected, the Orange apps are uninstallable.
Well, yes. My Windows 7 work phone, for example, runs on the UK Orange network. It came in an Orange-branded box, it has Orange-branding within the phone software, and Orange apps bundled with it that can't be removed. Annoying, yes, but standard practice in the phone world. It also has HTC-specific apps built into it such as the HTC hub.
If it turns out that a network is bundling crapware with the handset that uses too much data in some conditions, or a vendor such as HTC has a bug in their app, then I wouldn't blame MS for it.
It's a big "if", but it's a definite possibility and until we know the reason I suggest we stop getting so hysterical about it.
1GB is considered a lot by most phone companies on a cellular plan. Most of UK networks are downgrading their "unlimited" to mean "500MB/month" right now - see the recent furore about t-mobile.
I will put money on it not being anything like that interesting.
It'll probably turn out to be either a crucial app vendor or a launch partner that they don't want to annoy - e.g. if it turned out that one of the HTC apps or the Facebook app was doing it. Until they know for sure, and work out how to fix it they probably want to be a little coy about what's causing it.
Anyway, it's not affecting that many users as far as I can tell. I've got an HTC Mozart for work that's not doing it, after checking my data usage.
This is nothing. Compare to this: £9.99 down, £18/month for a new Samsung netbook with 3G dataplan.
http://threestore.three.co.uk/dealsummary.aspx?offercode=24LP1GD031
Standard UK government grandstanding and soundbytes. The only reason they're offering this is because a) it makes good media coverage, and b) someone is making a profit out of it.