The problem is that it doesn't appear that anyone has been able to make the alleged remote root exploit work. I haven't read misc@openbsd.org this weekend, but the consensus of the list as of yesterday was that it was not a legitimate root exploit.
And generally, since apache is not running by default, the OpenBSD team would tend to be of the mindset that if you are going to turn it on, you better stay up to speed on it.
You are silly. Refrigerators suck. They all come with ice makers now. Why? Well, what part always breaks? The ice maker? My mom is going to special order a refrigerator without one - very few of the big box stores sell *any* without - why? Well, the big box stores all have service departments, and are in the extended warranty business right?
Most products today suck. At least computing and network gear has an excuse - widget 2002 is 50 to 200% faster than widget 2001.
Well, I have > 50 karma, have been here > 2 years, and am a MCSE who runs a windows shop. Go figure. I am a advanced bsd newbie who uses bsd for things like syslog, mrtg, firewalls, tftp,ntp, etc.
Anyhow, a lot of the anti MS stuff here is lame because it is old and just not true. Complaining about NT/2k/xp's stability is lame because stability isn't a problem. Complaining that you need to reboot a NT 4 box to do anything *is* valid. Complaining that you have to reboot a nt/2k/xp box when you apply a web broswer patch *is* valid.
Some of the complaints about OSS software are valid - tons of people are telling the guy to install openoffice, but from reading the comments, it sounds like only about 20% have. So who can really say how well it will read ms office files? OSS still has issues - it needs to support all the comoon media functions out of the box to make casual users feel comfortable. Not being able to render pages properly, open a complex excel doc or open windows media files will just confirm their suspicions that their new os is just a silly management trick to save a few bucks.
he built a company whose product/service apparently was not internet based (meaning, using standards like dns, etc), and rather, was wholy dependent upon just *one* other vendor's platform/service to such an extreme that users couldn't install it upon that platform/service themselves as it was simply guaranteed to be integrated for a fixed time period. We are supposed to feel bad because his company didn't have a contigency plan? They never thought about writing a plug in that would allow them to operate immediately for other browsers, and possible as a contigency in case of a falling out with MS?
No one would feel sorry for a hardware vendor that made hardware that would only work for Dells, and then went other because kingston/micron/western digital, etc could do it for less, and Dell went with them when it was time to renegotiate the contract.
Actually, AOL is far cheaper when someone else provides the network - I think AOL dialup is 22ish a month now, wheras the bring your own is 12ish. If you could get the deployment costs to be a cost break even for the first year, and save them 100ish a year from then on out, you might find interest in it
Dude, when I was in high school, the dumb kids hung out together. Do you advocate allowing parents to genetically engineer dumb kids so the dumb community doesn't get upset?
We have a HPUX box in a 30ishU rack that is a big waste of space in our lab area. It would draw tons of power (you need a 30amp 110v twist lock socket for it, IIRC), it has raid - a raid of 2 gig disks, and its hpux isn't y2k compatible - it accepts 70-99 as valid years, IIRC, and onlyhas 128 megs of ram.
Honestly, for general unix stuff, mirrored 7200rpm drives and intel hardware would probably draw a fifth of the power, and be at least as quick (I would think it would be orders of magnitude quicker). I haven't bother pricing out HPUX upgrades for this nightmare. It just isn't worth the time or effort.
Any other manufacturor might not have done such a foolish thing as integrating the display. Seriously, I am not trolling here - just look at the attempted consolidation in the ram market right now. I think every area of the it industry had hardware surplus based on skyrocking demand for 5 straight years, and then stopped. Apple probably viewed the cheap lcd prices as a natural parallel to the hard drive and cpu performance inc. vs price metrics, whereas the lcd prices were probably very depressed by massive overproduction.
Having to raise prices is truly ridiculous. It just hurts apple even more in the last 9 months of this year as the x86 folks keep pushing the mhz gap higher, and thus the apple/x86 price comparison keep getting worse for apple.
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because someone would sell the vpn client on its own, instead of only in a $100 per desktop package - I needed a vpn client, not 8 apps to confuse my mac using graphic artists.
Do Macs come with any scsi standard anymore? I know their HDD are all IDE now, right? It seems like Apple would be nowhere nearly as important to Adaptec as they were 5 yrs ago when it seems like Apple was 100% scsi as a potential buyer of scsi chipsets.
SuperDLT does 11 megabytes per sec natively, and 110gig per tape. AIT and LTO might go higher (I like the rock solid history of DLT over these competitors) throughput wise. SuperDLT does 39.6 gigs natively per hour.
Tell me what the problem is with tape again?
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Because they don't do evil or annoying things. That isn't a tremendous excuse, but it just works in practice. No intrusive ads, performance is always great for a free service, etc.
Philosophically, however, I'd imagine that parsing/indexing patents are far more legitimate in many people's eyes, than say, one click purchasing patents.
While technically admirable, such a product seems like it could get hammered when Apple decides to make OS XI or XII g4 only. Thats the problem with a company who controls both the hardware and software. I'm afraid the prospect an ensured obsolence could be very problematic for their sales.
I think the thinking is that they might use the same copy protection methods across a lot of software, including ones they aren't ready to open source yet.
I wonder if that means that the people of Tuvalu are among the few winners of the dot com boom. DIdn't they sell the.tv rights for millions, which was probably more than anyone ever garnered for.tv domain sales?
I did not refer to industry - I simply referred to people moving from one place to another, which is exactly was does happen every day in the US. Massachusetts has lost at least two US Congressional seats in the last 20 years because people are moving southernly and westernly. NY state has lost at least 3 house seats from redistricting after the 90 and 2000 censuses.
I am afraid that there is a wealth of evidence that supports my position re: US migratory patterns. Americans are in fact willing to move and do so at a pretty regular clip.
How many unemployed farmers from Southern Italy have moved to Ireland during the celtic tiger's boom?
See, just because you *legally* can, doesn't mean that there aren't significant cultural barriers impeding the free flow of labor across borders. The US, as a integrated currency zone for comparative purposes, have far fewer limitations.
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All of these countries do not have different values to their currencies - exchange rates have been fixed against the Euro since jan 1 99, IIRC. The Euro is supposed to help price transparency, ie, comparing apples in italy to apples in france.
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Uh no. Norway is not in the EU. The Dutch who live in the Netherlands, and apparently include you, with a.nl url in his profile, are in the EU, *is* converting to the Euro.
I agree to a point. It also seems so stereotypically geeky, which isn't so problematic when viewed as a art form, but when it seems to become lustful over two dimension female cartoon characters, then it is just a bit *odd*. I just have found traditional film to be much more interesting. That isn't to say I won't get into anime at some point, but I have found hitchcock and kurosawa more interesting and entertaining so far.
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The problem is that it doesn't appear that anyone has been able to make the alleged remote root exploit work. I haven't read misc@openbsd.org this weekend, but the consensus of the list as of yesterday was that it was not a legitimate root exploit.
And generally, since apache is not running by default, the OpenBSD team would tend to be of the mindset that if you are going to turn it on, you better stay up to speed on it.
not speaking for the team of course,
ostiguy
You are silly. Refrigerators suck. They all come with ice makers now. Why? Well, what part always breaks? The ice maker? My mom is going to special order a refrigerator without one - very few of the big box stores sell *any* without - why? Well, the big box stores all have service departments, and are in the extended warranty business right?
Most products today suck. At least computing and network gear has an excuse - widget 2002 is 50 to 200% faster than widget 2001.
ostiguy
You need to install it in a new directory each time. Upgrading currently isn't guarantees to work, AFAIK.
Since the 1.0 RC's memory consumption seems to be much more realistic - no more leaks. Its getting very nice.
ostiguy
You want to demo software on July 4th??!?!? Instead of drinking beer and bbq'ing? That will definitely show people that Linux users aren't communists!
ostiguy
Well, I have > 50 karma, have been here > 2 years, and am a MCSE who runs a windows shop. Go figure. I am a advanced bsd newbie who uses bsd for things like syslog, mrtg, firewalls, tftp,ntp, etc.
Anyhow, a lot of the anti MS stuff here is lame because it is old and just not true. Complaining about NT/2k/xp's stability is lame because stability isn't a problem. Complaining that you need to reboot a NT 4 box to do anything *is* valid. Complaining that you have to reboot a nt/2k/xp box when you apply a web broswer patch *is* valid.
Some of the complaints about OSS software are valid - tons of people are telling the guy to install openoffice, but from reading the comments, it sounds like only about 20% have. So who can really say how well it will read ms office files? OSS still has issues - it needs to support all the comoon media functions out of the box to make casual users feel comfortable. Not being able to render pages properly, open a complex excel doc or open windows media files will just confirm their suspicions that their new os is just a silly management trick to save a few bucks.
ostiguy
he built a company whose product/service apparently was not internet based (meaning, using standards like dns, etc), and rather, was wholy dependent upon just *one* other vendor's platform/service to such an extreme that users couldn't install it upon that platform/service themselves as it was simply guaranteed to be integrated for a fixed time period. We are supposed to feel bad because his company didn't have a contigency plan? They never thought about writing a plug in that would allow them to operate immediately for other browsers, and possible as a contigency in case of a falling out with MS?
No one would feel sorry for a hardware vendor that made hardware that would only work for Dells, and then went other because kingston/micron/western digital, etc could do it for less, and Dell went with them when it was time to renegotiate the contract.
ostiguy
I don't think so. I think you can build a version of moz that supports it, but it is not it the current builds.
And the adobe plugin in for moz doesn't render everything properly the way ie's does. oh well
ostiguy
Actually, AOL is far cheaper when someone else provides the network - I think AOL dialup is 22ish a month now, wheras the bring your own is 12ish. If you could get the deployment costs to be a cost break even for the first year, and save them 100ish a year from then on out, you might find interest in it
ostiguy
Dude, when I was in high school, the dumb kids hung out together. Do you advocate allowing parents to genetically engineer dumb kids so the dumb community doesn't get upset?
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It could be. But probably not.
We have a HPUX box in a 30ishU rack that is a big waste of space in our lab area. It would draw tons of power (you need a 30amp 110v twist lock socket for it, IIRC), it has raid - a raid of 2 gig disks, and its hpux isn't y2k compatible - it accepts 70-99 as valid years, IIRC, and onlyhas 128 megs of ram.
Honestly, for general unix stuff, mirrored 7200rpm drives and intel hardware would probably draw a fifth of the power, and be at least as quick (I would think it would be orders of magnitude quicker). I haven't bother pricing out HPUX upgrades for this nightmare. It just isn't worth the time or effort.
ostiguy
Any other manufacturor might not have done such a foolish thing as integrating the display. Seriously, I am not trolling here - just look at the attempted consolidation in the ram market right now. I think every area of the it industry had hardware surplus based on skyrocking demand for 5 straight years, and then stopped. Apple probably viewed the cheap lcd prices as a natural parallel to the hard drive and cpu performance inc. vs price metrics, whereas the lcd prices were probably very depressed by massive overproduction.
Having to raise prices is truly ridiculous. It just hurts apple even more in the last 9 months of this year as the x86 folks keep pushing the mhz gap higher, and thus the apple/x86 price comparison keep getting worse for apple.
because someone would sell the vpn client on its own, instead of only in a $100 per desktop package - I needed a vpn client, not 8 apps to confuse my mac using graphic artists.
ostiguy
C'mon, we're all friends here. Lets just forget this mess ever happened and relabel 2.4.x rightfully as 2.3.
Do Macs come with any scsi standard anymore? I know their HDD are all IDE now, right? It seems like Apple would be nowhere nearly as important to Adaptec as they were 5 yrs ago when it seems like Apple was 100% scsi as a potential buyer of scsi chipsets.
ostiguy
SuperDLT does 11 megabytes per sec natively, and 110gig per tape. AIT and LTO might go higher (I like the rock solid history of DLT over these competitors) throughput wise. SuperDLT does 39.6 gigs natively per hour.
Tell me what the problem is with tape again?
ostiguy
Because they don't do evil or annoying things. That isn't a tremendous excuse, but it just works in practice. No intrusive ads, performance is always great for a free service, etc.
Philosophically, however, I'd imagine that parsing/indexing patents are far more legitimate in many people's eyes, than say, one click purchasing patents.
ostiguy
While technically admirable, such a product seems like it could get hammered when Apple decides to make OS XI or XII g4 only. Thats the problem with a company who controls both the hardware and software. I'm afraid the prospect an ensured obsolence could be very problematic for their sales.
ostiguy
I think the thinking is that they might use the same copy protection methods across a lot of software, including ones they aren't ready to open source yet.
ostiguy
I wonder if that means that the people of Tuvalu are among the few winners of the dot com boom. DIdn't they sell the .tv rights for millions, which was probably more than anyone ever garnered for .tv domain sales?
ostiguy
I did not refer to industry - I simply referred to people moving from one place to another, which is exactly was does happen every day in the US. Massachusetts has lost at least two US Congressional seats in the last 20 years because people are moving southernly and westernly. NY state has lost at least 3 house seats from redistricting after the 90 and 2000 censuses.
I am afraid that there is a wealth of evidence that supports my position re: US migratory patterns. Americans are in fact willing to move and do so at a pretty regular clip.
ostiguy
How many unemployed farmers from Southern Italy have moved to Ireland during the celtic tiger's boom?
See, just because you *legally* can, doesn't mean that there aren't significant cultural barriers impeding the free flow of labor across borders. The US, as a integrated currency zone for comparative purposes, have far fewer limitations.
ostiguy
All of these countries do not have different values to their currencies - exchange rates have been fixed against the Euro since jan 1 99, IIRC. The Euro is supposed to help price transparency, ie, comparing apples in italy to apples in france.
ostiguy
Uh no. Norway is not in the EU. The Dutch who live in the Netherlands, and apparently include you, with a .nl url in his profile, are in the EU, *is* converting to the Euro.
sheesh!
ostiguy
I agree to a point. It also seems so stereotypically geeky, which isn't so problematic when viewed as a art form, but when it seems to become lustful over two dimension female cartoon characters, then it is just a bit *odd*. I just have found traditional film to be much more interesting. That isn't to say I won't get into anime at some point, but I have found hitchcock and kurosawa more interesting and entertaining so far.
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And that alone will hinder its acceptance.
And will hard drive manufacturors decide to stop lying about the size of their drives? Magic 8 ball says doubtful.
ostiguy