I'm amused that virtually everyone who is answering this question is putting together a laundry list of things that aren't actually in the power of someone holding the office of president.
We didn't lose the battle. Do you have to wear a suit? Do you have to show up at 9 am? Does your manager ban cube toys? Do you have internet access at work?
Yes, I agree, working conditions are far from ideal...but they are also far from where they could be for most coders. And honestly, I don't worry about "respect" because I have a job where I get to sit on my ass all day in a decent chair, get to make my own hours and get to browse the net during the working day. That's far better than most people get.
Yeah, it's funny until you think back to the last time you yourself gave a demo, and think about what it would be like if someone else was deliberately messing with the demo of the software you'd put months of sweat into.
Oh, I'm sure they'll do that next year. The reason none of these presenters did it this year is that they assumed none of the people who showed up would be immature enough to do this. I'm sure they know better now.
People here seem to somehow think that the presenters were stupid not to think of electrical tape. This is not the case. What is true is that the presenters assumed that their audience was too mature for such idiotic behavior.
Listen, sonny...I lived and worked (and looked for work) in San Diego, a Navy town, when the "peace dividend" that resulting from the end of the Cold War dumped thousands of defense industry programmers on the streets all at once. I know what a bad job market is.
Entry level positions are *always* rare. They sure as hell were rare when I got out of college and the only position I could get was at a shitty company that paid crap, hired everyone as "contractors" so it didn't have to pay benefits, and missed payroll half the time. It took a hell of a lot of work then to switch jobs. But it paid off in the long run.
The thing you need to realize is that the job market now isn't different or odd. It's normal. It's what it usually is. The trouble is that the dotcom boom, where any warm body got handed jobs, got a whole generation thinking that this was the way things normally were.
That's crap. That's what they tell you to keep you at shit jobs. If you have courage to look for a better job while you have the income from a crap job, you can improve your position and broaden your experience, making yourself more employable in the future. The key is that when you hop, you can usually hop up, and you can generally hop up faster than you'd move up in the position you have. This is because the sorts of companies that hire entry level people are typically the sorts that give 3% raises and think that five years before promotion is reasonable.
I've done it during booms and during busts. During the busts, "finding something better" can take longer, but if you are good at what you do, you can do it. It just takes the courage to try. I hate to think where I'd be if I hadn't had that courage. Probably working for some shitty Point of Sale outfit like the one I started at for half the salary I make now.
There's no such thing as a "spoiled" employee. The labor market is a free market. Just like corporations are there to maximize revenue, people are in the labor market are there to maximize salary/benefits/job satisfaction.
Seriously...the media trots out this "Younger generation wants more" story every 5-10 years. They certainly did twenty years ago, when I was one of those hard-to-please kids.
Nothing's changed. Employers pay crap wages at the entry level, and treat young kids like crap. Said young kids then hop jobs until they find something better. Same as it ever was. When I was that age, I quickly found that without experience, jobs I could get were pretty sucky. I also soon found that it was much easier to get a raise by job-hoping. So I spent the first ten years of my career moving around until I got the experience to get a good job.
The younger generation isn't any different. It's always like this, because entry level jobs tend to be the suckiest and companies that employ lots of entry level coders also tend to be the suckiest. If a company doesn't like their people switching jobs, they should pay more, and stop treating them like crap. Of course, so companies *do* do that. They're the ones people job hop to and then stop.
The one has little to do with the other. Just because they'll give you files without DRM doesn't mean they won't sue your ass if you put those MP3s in a shared folder on Kazaa.
Apple was the only thing between you and the RIAA's desire to force you to subscription pricing or $3.99 digital singles, or forcing you to buy the WHOLE digital album!!
Exactly. This is why they are abandoning DRM. They realized that the only successful DRM gave Apple the power to force them into a particular pricing model. They'd rather give up on DRM than see that happen.
The nice thing about debian based distributions is that there's a system that automatically patches nearly all installed applications rather than just the OS itself.
He was talking about electoral votes, not representatives. A state gets one for each representative and one for each senator. The minimum number of electoral votes a state gets is three.
This means that they'll abandon driverless cars in 2019. Then Toyota will start making them in 2020 and soon make even more money hand over fist. In 2022, GM while ask congress for a bail-out and claim it is "too expensive" to make a driverless car.
It's not piracy. It's consoles being able to run more and more of the sorts of games PCs are known for, and being able to run them without all the hassles of PC gaming rigs. The death-knell of PC gaming is games like Orange Box, Bioshock and Unreal Tournament running on consoles.
Sometimes I remember the what the comics page was like in the mid-eighties, with Bloom County, The Far Side and Calvin and Hobbes all running and I just cry.
No SOME parents just suck at parenting. Those of us who feed their kids cheerios, restrict their TV and limit them to appropriate video games for appropriate time periods also tend not to whine to congress/the media, hence, we're harder to spot.
The grandparent post is off by more than a decade. When I was in high school in the early eighties, MTV did indeed play nothing but videos. They didn't even have special video-based programming like Headbanger's ball.
Class warfare? Hardly. There are plenty of companies that are actually run well, and the people who run them deserve every sent of their incomes.
It's not class warfare. It's a belief that morons should not be enriched because of their connections. In a free market, executives would pay for their failures from their pocketbooks. Unfortunately, the good ol' boy's network too often subverts that free market, allowing idiots to fail upwards.
You're still missing the amusing part: the lack of "retention bonuses" given to the people that actually make the sales and actually bring in the money. Sure, this "pay the execs more to captain the Titanic" approach is a popular approach among the failed executive set...it gives them the excuses they need.
Circuit City's problems were caused by its executives. Retaining the incompetents only shows they aren't likely to turn around, which is likely why their stock is tanking.
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I'm amused that virtually everyone who is answering this question is putting together a laundry list of things that aren't actually in the power of someone holding the office of president.
Er...that sounds *exactly* like 1990.
We didn't lose the battle. Do you have to wear a suit? Do you have to show up at 9 am? Does your manager ban cube toys? Do you have internet access at work?
Yes, I agree, working conditions are far from ideal...but they are also far from where they could be for most coders. And honestly, I don't worry about "respect" because I have a job where I get to sit on my ass all day in a decent chair, get to make my own hours and get to browse the net during the working day. That's far better than most people get.
No...they were competing directly with me when I was looking for a better job.
What you don't seem to get is that what "job hopping" is about is getting *out* of entry level jobs, into something better.
Yeah, it's funny until you think back to the last time you yourself gave a demo, and think about what it would be like if someone else was deliberately messing with the demo of the software you'd put months of sweat into.
Oh, I'm sure they'll do that next year. The reason none of these presenters did it this year is that they assumed none of the people who showed up would be immature enough to do this. I'm sure they know better now.
People here seem to somehow think that the presenters were stupid not to think of electrical tape. This is not the case. What is true is that the presenters assumed that their audience was too mature for such idiotic behavior.
Listen, sonny...I lived and worked (and looked for work) in San Diego, a Navy town, when the "peace dividend" that resulting from the end of the Cold War dumped thousands of defense industry programmers on the streets all at once. I know what a bad job market is.
Entry level positions are *always* rare. They sure as hell were rare when I got out of college and the only position I could get was at a shitty company that paid crap, hired everyone as "contractors" so it didn't have to pay benefits, and missed payroll half the time. It took a hell of a lot of work then to switch jobs. But it paid off in the long run.
The thing you need to realize is that the job market now isn't different or odd. It's normal. It's what it usually is. The trouble is that the dotcom boom, where any warm body got handed jobs, got a whole generation thinking that this was the way things normally were.
That's crap. That's what they tell you to keep you at shit jobs. If you have courage to look for a better job while you have the income from a crap job, you can improve your position and broaden your experience, making yourself more employable in the future. The key is that when you hop, you can usually hop up, and you can generally hop up faster than you'd move up in the position you have. This is because the sorts of companies that hire entry level people are typically the sorts that give 3% raises and think that five years before promotion is reasonable.
I've done it during booms and during busts. During the busts, "finding something better" can take longer, but if you are good at what you do, you can do it. It just takes the courage to try. I hate to think where I'd be if I hadn't had that courage. Probably working for some shitty Point of Sale outfit like the one I started at for half the salary I make now.
There's no such thing as a "spoiled" employee. The labor market is a free market. Just like corporations are there to maximize revenue, people are in the labor market are there to maximize salary/benefits/job satisfaction.
1988 wants its story back.
Seriously...the media trots out this "Younger generation wants more" story every 5-10 years. They certainly did twenty years ago, when I was one of those hard-to-please kids.
Nothing's changed. Employers pay crap wages at the entry level, and treat young kids like crap. Said young kids then hop jobs until they find something better. Same as it ever was. When I was that age, I quickly found that without experience, jobs I could get were pretty sucky. I also soon found that it was much easier to get a raise by job-hoping. So I spent the first ten years of my career moving around until I got the experience to get a good job.
The younger generation isn't any different. It's always like this, because entry level jobs tend to be the suckiest and companies that employ lots of entry level coders also tend to be the suckiest. If a company doesn't like their people switching jobs, they should pay more, and stop treating them like crap. Of course, so companies *do* do that. They're the ones people job hop to and then stop.
The one has little to do with the other. Just because they'll give you files without DRM doesn't mean they won't sue your ass if you put those MP3s in a shared folder on Kazaa.
Exactly. This is why they are abandoning DRM. They realized that the only successful DRM gave Apple the power to force them into a particular pricing model. They'd rather give up on DRM than see that happen.
That doesn't help much if the exploit targets Firefox or Adobe Reader or Photoshop or iTunes or...
The nice thing about debian based distributions is that there's a system that automatically patches nearly all installed applications rather than just the OS itself.
He was talking about electoral votes, not representatives. A state gets one for each representative and one for each senator. The minimum number of electoral votes a state gets is three.
I seem to recall that in the 19th century, people regularly rode in vehicles that had 1 horse power. Up hills, even.
This means that they'll abandon driverless cars in 2019. Then Toyota will start making them in 2020 and soon make even more money hand over fist. In 2022, GM while ask congress for a bail-out and claim it is "too expensive" to make a driverless car.
It's not piracy. It's consoles being able to run more and more of the sorts of games PCs are known for, and being able to run them without all the hassles of PC gaming rigs. The death-knell of PC gaming is games like Orange Box, Bioshock and Unreal Tournament running on consoles.
Sometimes I remember the what the comics page was like in the mid-eighties, with Bloom County, The Far Side and Calvin and Hobbes all running and I just cry.
It's called the PSP 2000.
No SOME parents just suck at parenting. Those of us who feed their kids cheerios, restrict their TV and limit them to appropriate video games for appropriate time periods also tend not to whine to congress/the media, hence, we're harder to spot.
The grandparent post is off by more than a decade. When I was in high school in the early eighties, MTV did indeed play nothing but videos. They didn't even have special video-based programming like Headbanger's ball.
Plus, a single person can switch horses. That's how the Pony Express worked, and it's how people could make 200 miles a day even in classical times.
Class warfare? Hardly. There are plenty of companies that are actually run well, and the people who run them deserve every sent of their incomes.
It's not class warfare. It's a belief that morons should not be enriched because of their connections. In a free market, executives would pay for their failures from their pocketbooks. Unfortunately, the good ol' boy's network too often subverts that free market, allowing idiots to fail upwards.
You're still missing the amusing part: the lack of "retention bonuses" given to the people that actually make the sales and actually bring in the money. Sure, this "pay the execs more to captain the Titanic" approach is a popular approach among the failed executive set...it gives them the excuses they need.
Circuit City's problems were caused by its executives. Retaining the incompetents only shows they aren't likely to turn around, which is likely why their stock is tanking.