Too bad the RIAA can only speak for preformance artists. If the writer, label, distributors, FBI, etc decide to come after you they will have a signed, notarized confession. Amnesty my ass....
I'll take my chances at being the unlucky 0.0000001% of the population. The fact I don't use kazaa and keep my blocklists updated just adds a couple more zeros to that percentage.
As a side note, did anyone see how CD sales dropped over 30% when P2P usage dropped 20%? I would like to hear the RIAA's excuse for that one. Spin away....
Yeah, I dropped them. I guess Newton was right. I didn't need to test it though. Ever since I learned to fall down, I've known the effects of gravity. I KNOW what effect gravity will have on me because my size means that Newtonian physics best explains the effects of our masses on each other (mine and the earth). When's the last time you fused and exerted a neutron? However, I understand that quantum physics is not a fully developed discipline. As such, its hallmark is that certainty does not exist by any means (ex: Heisenberg). Seeing how fusion functions at and below Planck width, and certainty does not exist, saying you are certain that cold fusion is impossible seems a bit... arrogant. Until I see credible evidence either way, I'm going to assume it's not beyond the realm of possibility. Hell, it's theoretically possible for me to pass through a wall without interacting with any of its mass, so cold fusion doesn't seem too far fetched. Unfortunately, some people think they can 'solve' their cold fusion annoyance by ignoring it. I see that some people still forgo the history classes for science classes. That's a shame, we could learn from both.
Odd, I though Hawaii didn't exist that many years ago (or the pacific). I'll tell you though, I like that 'evil' leader of theirs. You gotta love someone who commands a civilization of intergalactic star ships and solves over-population problems by taking his subjects to a molten plant, putting them in boxes next to volcanoes, and dropping an h-bomb on them.
I think someone has been dipping their cheese-fiction in the electric acid kool-aid acid a bit too much. Lay off the sauce L Ron.
But you can give their papers the review they want. If their noise disturbs you, then silence them by giving them what tehy want. Surely they don't control every variable or set up genuine experiments (read: by the scientific model). If they did, either new things would be discovered that needed to be addressed, or they would see what they are doing isn't possible (either by limitations of current technology or some other means). Ignoring them just makes them shout louder.
So link to the reviewed article that says stirring molten lead and chanting the right phrases creates gold. Alchemists 1000 years ago had no idea of fission, fusion, or the subatomic. Hell, up until 150 or so years ago people thought tables were made of table atoms and people were made of people atoms. Alchemy is just about as (dis)provabe as magick. Fission is truth. Please don't confuse the two.
That's just like that one guy said, "What the hell are we going to do with something that weighs 30 pounds and make polarized light of the same wavelength?"
Is a machine thinking so hard to believe? You are a machine. Instead of electro-chemical, the 'AI' of today is electro-mechanical. People invent things like religion and philosophy so they don't have to feel so insignifigant, but you are still a machine by every sense of the definition.
Science isn't like pop culture which thrives on instant gratification. Some new idea may not be pratcical, but one idea leads to another idea leads to another... until you have the next greatest thing sitting in your garage. I can't wait until the day someone bitches about how making something the size of a baseball travel faster than light is going to effect him.
I've got a better one. How about free energy? I've developed a way to do what tiny alpha particles have been doing since minutes after the big bang. We're going to simply borrow the energy from uncertianty. We don't have to pay the old man back either. Whenever he comes knocking on the door, observing him means that he is not there anymore.
At least someone took the time to prove alchemy wrong. It's a travesty for a scientist to say cold fusion is wrong because of his faith. Be a scientist and use that damn method you've heard about since childhood. Since when does peer review mean you only test things that fit into your view of the universe?
Say what you want, alchemists were very smart for their time. They made that one thing that produced energy around 2000 years ago, and it has held the human mind captive ever since. What did they call that damn thing???
Oh yea... the arc of the covenant (aka the worlds first battery). Put the top on and close the circuit.... bam... sparks and heat everywhere. Give me some medicine, a flashlight, and a way to go back 2000 years, and I'll be your messiah. Jebus ain't got nuttin on me.
The future of ultra fast transit isn't in airplanes gliding along, masking their sonic wake. It's with things like multi stage trans-orbital aircraft. A plane could take off using standard jets until it got to the maximum height the jets could support. Then switch over to SCRAM jets and break for the outer atmosphere. Even the prototype SCRAM jets today are capable of flying at many multiples of mach. It just takes the energy to get a plane beyond mach 2 (or so) to begin with. If you stay at the edge of the atmosphere, the very low pressures create little drag compared to today's cruising altitudes. Also, the higher you are, the faster you must go in order to create that critical pressure point. You don't need to totally leave the atmosphere; in fact it's easier that you don't. You won't have nearly as much heat to deal with as reentry, and you won't have to add rockets or thrusters to maneuver in low orbit. Imagine flying form New York to Tokyo so fast that food service isn't needed.
The lead kid was 16 years old. Think about that, he would have been a sophomore or junior in high school. If he still can't tell the difference between right and wrong or video game and reality, society has much bigger problems than simulated violence. Even his freind at 14 years should have known better. I'll admitt GTA3 is a captivating game, but it can't just make someone shut down their thought processes. It's obvious those processes weren't there to begin with.
If I were one of his victims, I would sue his parents for leaving an unsecured gun around a mentally disabled child.
You know, I often leave my windows open and my door unlocked. Adrian Lamo would often come in and sleep on my couch during the night and help himself to beers from my refrigerator. I'm so thankful that a "white hat" hacker took the time to show me that my house is not totally secure. I don't know what I would do without him.
I hope you don't leave sensitive networks and data 'opened and unlocked' like you do your house. In a home, you have reasonable expectations of privacy, Networks, by their structuer, are public areas. Even an intranet is a public area, just as much as a walled community is. Someone who walks around an exclusive area such as that, and doesn't belong there, will get tossed out on their ass. If they resist or repeat they will probably be charged with trespassing. Someone who walks around the same are and breaks things, raises hell, steals will be arrested and charged with trespassing and then some.
Your example is my third, which means he was trespassing until he took something. It can't be breaking and entering without the breaking. Unfortunately, with computer crime, there are no true 'teirs' of infraction like there is with traditional crime. They way people have and will continue to beef up the laws won't solve a thing either.
If a reporter showed how easy it is to walk on to a plane with a weapon, they would probably win an award, if at least praise. If someone showed a credit company how it was possible to comprimise their data, they would run the risk of prison. I'm not saying you need to pin any medals on him, just realize that you got lucky instead of porked. Not so many are lucky wnough to get a hacker who will contact them, tell them what the hole is, and offer a solution. If you really must make an example, give him probation with electronic monitoring and take away his computer for 6 months. Reserve the ass poundings for the people who would have done the same to you.
I can get porn from Kazaa??? Why the hell am I the last to find out all this good info?
Good work RIAA, you just gave a good reason for boys between 14 and 80 to start using Kazaa. Way to do Sharman's marketing for them.
As far as any proposed laws are concerned... how is more bureaucracy going to stop something when the mass of bureaucracy we have now can't stop it? So instead of breaking 2 or 3 laws every time I download a song, I now break 5 or 6. Someone please explain that logic. What's next; mandatory minimums for file sharers? Look at how well that solved the drug problem.
Sometimes I feel like I live in a nation run by chimps in suits.
So let's throw the (relatively) most desirable type of hacker in jail so he gets out of the way of the black hats. This is some bullshit logic. Regardless of what his 'true' intentions were, his track record speaks volumes: He's always come clean with people.
While network admins are busy giving themselves kudos for integrating Microsoft's latest and greatest secure systems, he is busy looking for holes. Without these types of white hats, all the world would have is insecure networks remaining open to black hats until they discovered the holes the really hard way.
Screw all the evil, sinister things you think his 'true' intentions are. He and his counterparts have potentially saved your company millions in expenses when some black hat could have made off with gigabytes of confidential data. Think these white hats are bad? Wait until you have class actions out the wazoo because many of your customers are now facing the business end of your over confidence.
Screw modern hacking laws because they are stale and outdated. People always like to tack on new laws without even considering removing or revising obsolete sections. All it's going to do is alienate any potential allies. The bad guys won't get caught because they hide, the good guys don't hide because they think they don't have a reason to.
White hats are thrown in jail because they get bad attention and can cause a PR mess. Many times, the work of black hats can be covered up by the company or government. How many stories have we heard of hackers holding sensitive data ransom or extorting businesses in some way? You really don't think EVERY incident gets publicized, do you? These people want to make it look like they are tough on hackers, so they go after the easiest and most public targets.
You will be giving a powerful message to upcoming generations of hackers. If the end result is the same, what the hell do I need this white hat for?
Someone will come knocking at your door, it's inevitable. What color hat do you want him to be wearing?
The first person I knew with broadband was in the test market. Naturally, he lived downtown, where the highest pop. density is. That was in late 99 - early 2000. Some small orginizations around there are in a test market for iDSL. For those who don't know, that's DSL over an ISDN line. It's advertised as having the best speed and scalibility of all the DSL falvors. Too bad it requires an ISDN and DSL subscription.
You must live in a fairly big city. My family in Indianapolis couldn't even get DSL or cable until about 5 years ago.
Whenever I visit my parents, I drive most of the way through the state using state highways. Many places are still laying fiber in the ground, and many more have yet to.
Before The New Deal, most rural ares didn't have electricity. It took the TVA and other orginizations years, but by the end about 98% of rural farms had power. I see braodband being much the same, except you don't have nearly as big of a push. Remember, if you wire most every large city, you still have at least half the population in the dark.
Why hasn't anyone sued SCO for libel? If they keep sitting there shouting unproven statements that harm and defame linux developers and distro's, then can't someone file suit?
I won't touch a document with any vb script in it. It's too much of a risk. I was doing research on the internet a couple of years ago for a semester final. Long story short, some word document with some malicous vb script decided to toast my HD. I used what data recovery tools I had, but did not get back the 18+ pages I had already typed. I was lucky that it was due at the end of the week, and my other finals were completed, but I still went 2 days without sleep to finish it. Needless to say I was not a happy camper. That is why I switched to red hat and open office. Windows is only good for gaming.
I'm sure Americans will have to live with this also. International copyright and patent laws can affect anyone in any country that 'respects' the 'work' of others.
Many listings on RPMFind.net bring up the same message. Also, many of the projects they list display it. The sites aren't truly closed down. On the notice, there is a hyperlink to continue on to your destination, but it won't forward you automatically.
It's a good way to get attention to te cause, but I feel that they are only protesting to the geek crowd. They should find ways to enlist the help of the not-so-geeky websites to get more fo the common folk involved.
Where would it stop? Yuo can't think that they would limit themselves to strictly felony cases. If 'they' want to get you, they will try any means possible. You can't say that you have never done one illegal thing in your life.
So a great part of the RFID hype is over preventing theft. When they are implimented, and theft rates drop, will they drop their prices too? They (corporations) claim that theft and other losses have a large effect on prices. Do you think they will prove themselves wrong?
Along the lines of buildign a better mousetrap: How long will it take a theif to discover a way to neutralize these tags? What happens when a person walks out of a store with a cart that has 30% of the tags inactive? How will anyone know that s/he hasn't paid for everything?
If you are over 18 and live in america, then it is up to you. People still elect politicians, not corporations. They can donate all the money in the world, but it comes down to your say.
Actually, modems stopped increasing in baud at 9600 (I'm almost sure). Baud tells you how many signal changes happen in a second. With compression and other techniques, we can actually transmitt more than 1 bit/baud these days.
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Too bad the RIAA can only speak for preformance artists. If the writer, label, distributors, FBI, etc decide to come after you they will have a signed, notarized confession. Amnesty my ass....
I'll take my chances at being the unlucky 0.0000001% of the population. The fact I don't use kazaa and keep my blocklists updated just adds a couple more zeros to that percentage.
As a side note, did anyone see how CD sales dropped over 30% when P2P usage dropped 20%? I would like to hear the RIAA's excuse for that one. Spin away....
Yeah, I dropped them. I guess Newton was right. I didn't need to test it though. Ever since I learned to fall down, I've known the effects of gravity. I KNOW what effect gravity will have on me because my size means that Newtonian physics best explains the effects of our masses on each other (mine and the earth). When's the last time you fused and exerted a neutron? However, I understand that quantum physics is not a fully developed discipline. As such, its hallmark is that certainty does not exist by any means (ex: Heisenberg). Seeing how fusion functions at and below Planck width, and certainty does not exist, saying you are certain that cold fusion is impossible seems a bit... arrogant. Until I see credible evidence either way, I'm going to assume it's not beyond the realm of possibility. Hell, it's theoretically possible for me to pass through a wall without interacting with any of its mass, so cold fusion doesn't seem too far fetched. Unfortunately, some people think they can 'solve' their cold fusion annoyance by ignoring it. I see that some people still forgo the history classes for science classes. That's a shame, we could learn from both.
Odd, I though Hawaii didn't exist that many years ago (or the pacific). I'll tell you though, I like that 'evil' leader of theirs. You gotta love someone who commands a civilization of intergalactic star ships and solves over-population problems by taking his subjects to a molten plant, putting them in boxes next to volcanoes, and dropping an h-bomb on them.
I think someone has been dipping their cheese-fiction in the electric acid kool-aid acid a bit too much. Lay off the sauce L Ron.
You can't prove a vague theory wrong.
But you can give their papers the review they want. If their noise disturbs you, then silence them by giving them what tehy want. Surely they don't control every variable or set up genuine experiments (read: by the scientific model). If they did, either new things would be discovered that needed to be addressed, or they would see what they are doing isn't possible (either by limitations of current technology or some other means). Ignoring them just makes them shout louder.
So link to the reviewed article that says stirring molten lead and chanting the right phrases creates gold. Alchemists 1000 years ago had no idea of fission, fusion, or the subatomic. Hell, up until 150 or so years ago people thought tables were made of table atoms and people were made of people atoms. Alchemy is just about as (dis)provabe as magick. Fission is truth. Please don't confuse the two.
That's just like that one guy said, "What the hell are we going to do with something that weighs 30 pounds and make polarized light of the same wavelength?"
Is a machine thinking so hard to believe? You are a machine. Instead of electro-chemical, the 'AI' of today is electro-mechanical. People invent things like religion and philosophy so they don't have to feel so insignifigant, but you are still a machine by every sense of the definition.
Science isn't like pop culture which thrives on instant gratification. Some new idea may not be pratcical, but one idea leads to another idea leads to another... until you have the next greatest thing sitting in your garage. I can't wait until the day someone bitches about how making something the size of a baseball travel faster than light is going to effect him.
I've got a better one. How about free energy? I've developed a way to do what tiny alpha particles have been doing since minutes after the big bang. We're going to simply borrow the energy from uncertianty. We don't have to pay the old man back either. Whenever he comes knocking on the door, observing him means that he is not there anymore.
At least someone took the time to prove alchemy wrong. It's a travesty for a scientist to say cold fusion is wrong because of his faith. Be a scientist and use that damn method you've heard about since childhood. Since when does peer review mean you only test things that fit into your view of the universe?
Say what you want, alchemists were very smart for their time. They made that one thing that produced energy around 2000 years ago, and it has held the human mind captive ever since. What did they call that damn thing???
Oh yea... the arc of the covenant (aka the worlds first battery). Put the top on and close the circuit.... bam... sparks and heat everywhere. Give me some medicine, a flashlight, and a way to go back 2000 years, and I'll be your messiah. Jebus ain't got nuttin on me.
The future of ultra fast transit isn't in airplanes gliding along, masking their sonic wake. It's with things like multi stage trans-orbital aircraft. A plane could take off using standard jets until it got to the maximum height the jets could support. Then switch over to SCRAM jets and break for the outer atmosphere. Even the prototype SCRAM jets today are capable of flying at many multiples of mach. It just takes the energy to get a plane beyond mach 2 (or so) to begin with. If you stay at the edge of the atmosphere, the very low pressures create little drag compared to today's cruising altitudes. Also, the higher you are, the faster you must go in order to create that critical pressure point. You don't need to totally leave the atmosphere; in fact it's easier that you don't. You won't have nearly as much heat to deal with as reentry, and you won't have to add rockets or thrusters to maneuver in low orbit. Imagine flying form New York to Tokyo so fast that food service isn't needed.
The lead kid was 16 years old. Think about that, he would have been a sophomore or junior in high school. If he still can't tell the difference between right and wrong or video game and reality, society has much bigger problems than simulated violence. Even his freind at 14 years should have known better. I'll admitt GTA3 is a captivating game, but it can't just make someone shut down their thought processes. It's obvious those processes weren't there to begin with.
If I were one of his victims, I would sue his parents for leaving an unsecured gun around a mentally disabled child.
You know, I often leave my windows open and my door unlocked. Adrian Lamo would often come in and sleep on my couch during the night and help himself to beers from my refrigerator. I'm so thankful that a "white hat" hacker took the time to show me that my house is not totally secure. I don't know what I would do without him.
I hope you don't leave sensitive networks and data 'opened and unlocked' like you do your house. In a home, you have reasonable expectations of privacy, Networks, by their structuer, are public areas. Even an intranet is a public area, just as much as a walled community is. Someone who walks around an exclusive area such as that, and doesn't belong there, will get tossed out on their ass. If they resist or repeat they will probably be charged with trespassing. Someone who walks around the same are and breaks things, raises hell, steals will be arrested and charged with trespassing and then some.
Your example is my third, which means he was trespassing until he took something. It can't be breaking and entering without the breaking. Unfortunately, with computer crime, there are no true 'teirs' of infraction like there is with traditional crime. They way people have and will continue to beef up the laws won't solve a thing either.
If a reporter showed how easy it is to walk on to a plane with a weapon, they would probably win an award, if at least praise. If someone showed a credit company how it was possible to comprimise their data, they would run the risk of prison. I'm not saying you need to pin any medals on him, just realize that you got lucky instead of porked. Not so many are lucky wnough to get a hacker who will contact them, tell them what the hole is, and offer a solution. If you really must make an example, give him probation with electronic monitoring and take away his computer for 6 months. Reserve the ass poundings for the people who would have done the same to you.
I can get porn from Kazaa??? Why the hell am I the last to find out all this good info?
Good work RIAA, you just gave a good reason for boys between 14 and 80 to start using Kazaa. Way to do Sharman's marketing for them.
As far as any proposed laws are concerned... how is more bureaucracy going to stop something when the mass of bureaucracy we have now can't stop it? So instead of breaking 2 or 3 laws every time I download a song, I now break 5 or 6. Someone please explain that logic. What's next; mandatory minimums for file sharers? Look at how well that solved the drug problem.
Sometimes I feel like I live in a nation run by chimps in suits.
So let's throw the (relatively) most desirable type of hacker in jail so he gets out of the way of the black hats. This is some bullshit logic. Regardless of what his 'true' intentions were, his track record speaks volumes: He's always come clean with people.
While network admins are busy giving themselves kudos for integrating Microsoft's latest and greatest secure systems, he is busy looking for holes. Without these types of white hats, all the world would have is insecure networks remaining open to black hats until they discovered the holes the really hard way.
Screw all the evil, sinister things you think his 'true' intentions are. He and his counterparts have potentially saved your company millions in expenses when some black hat could have made off with gigabytes of confidential data. Think these white hats are bad? Wait until you have class actions out the wazoo because many of your customers are now facing the business end of your over confidence.
Screw modern hacking laws because they are stale and outdated. People always like to tack on new laws without even considering removing or revising obsolete sections. All it's going to do is alienate any potential allies. The bad guys won't get caught because they hide, the good guys don't hide because they think they don't have a reason to.
White hats are thrown in jail because they get bad attention and can cause a PR mess. Many times, the work of black hats can be covered up by the company or government. How many stories have we heard of hackers holding sensitive data ransom or extorting businesses in some way? You really don't think EVERY incident gets publicized, do you? These people want to make it look like they are tough on hackers, so they go after the easiest and most public targets.
You will be giving a powerful message to upcoming generations of hackers. If the end result is the same, what the hell do I need this white hat for?
Someone will come knocking at your door, it's inevitable. What color hat do you want him to be wearing?
The first person I knew with broadband was in the test market. Naturally, he lived downtown, where the highest pop. density is. That was in late 99 - early 2000. Some small orginizations around there are in a test market for iDSL. For those who don't know, that's DSL over an ISDN line. It's advertised as having the best speed and scalibility of all the DSL falvors. Too bad it requires an ISDN and DSL subscription.
You must live in a fairly big city. My family in Indianapolis couldn't even get DSL or cable until about 5 years ago.
Whenever I visit my parents, I drive most of the way through the state using state highways. Many places are still laying fiber in the ground, and many more have yet to.
Before The New Deal, most rural ares didn't have electricity. It took the TVA and other orginizations years, but by the end about 98% of rural farms had power. I see braodband being much the same, except you don't have nearly as big of a push. Remember, if you wire most every large city, you still have at least half the population in the dark.
Why hasn't anyone sued SCO for libel? If they keep sitting there shouting unproven statements that harm and defame linux developers and distro's, then can't someone file suit?
I won't touch a document with any vb script in it. It's too much of a risk. I was doing research on the internet a couple of years ago for a semester final. Long story short, some word document with some malicous vb script decided to toast my HD. I used what data recovery tools I had, but did not get back the 18+ pages I had already typed. I was lucky that it was due at the end of the week, and my other finals were completed, but I still went 2 days without sleep to finish it. Needless to say I was not a happy camper. That is why I switched to red hat and open office. Windows is only good for gaming.
I'm sure Americans will have to live with this also. International copyright and patent laws can affect anyone in any country that 'respects' the 'work' of others.
Many listings on RPMFind.net bring up the same message. Also, many of the projects they list display it. The sites aren't truly closed down. On the notice, there is a hyperlink to continue on to your destination, but it won't forward you automatically.
It's a good way to get attention to te cause, but I feel that they are only protesting to the geek crowd. They should find ways to enlist the help of the not-so-geeky websites to get more fo the common folk involved.
Where would it stop? Yuo can't think that they would limit themselves to strictly felony cases. If 'they' want to get you, they will try any means possible. You can't say that you have never done one illegal thing in your life.
So a great part of the RFID hype is over preventing theft. When they are implimented, and theft rates drop, will they drop their prices too? They (corporations) claim that theft and other losses have a large effect on prices. Do you think they will prove themselves wrong?
Along the lines of buildign a better mousetrap: How long will it take a theif to discover a way to neutralize these tags? What happens when a person walks out of a store with a cart that has 30% of the tags inactive? How will anyone know that s/he hasn't paid for everything?
Will that be your story after someone is sued or prosecuted based on RFID evidence? How many people will have to fall before you become concerned?
SomaFM is more than one channel. Some do play more popular artists, but not all of them.
If you are over 18 and live in america, then it is up to you. People still elect politicians, not corporations. They can donate all the money in the world, but it comes down to your say.
Actually, modems stopped increasing in baud at 9600 (I'm almost sure). Baud tells you how many signal changes happen in a second. With compression and other techniques, we can actually transmitt more than 1 bit/baud these days.