You might not get modded into oblivion if you would learn how to tell the difference between one man's opinion and consensus, or could distinguish between imperfection and failure, or understood why the linked "usage down 60%" story is based on unreliable information.
Google Plus is exceeding expectations of both its creators and its user base, despite what a small collection of very vocal paranoid privacy nuts would have you think. Where they get the idea that an unencrypted social network hosted by a private company you're not even paying is a smart place to conduct a revolution escapes me.
The main circuit breaker for my house is ~32A, which means that I can use about 7.3kW. 1.2kW is used by my computers, add the lights, TV, microwave, electric teapot and not that much is left for charging the car. I could get three phase power and more current but that would be expensive.
I'm sure this is a terribly stupid question but... Why do you run your teapot and microwave all night long?.
The way I understand it from watching the only fair and balanced news channel in the world, being liberal is all about being wrong. Am I missing something? </straight_face>
Um... Why would liberals have a problem with calling out some of the most oppressive anti liberal regimes in the world? I suspect you may be confused about what being liberal is all about.
The way I understand it from watching the only fair and balanced news channel in the world, being liberal is all about being wrong. Am I missing something? </straight_face>
Violence is not limited to physical acts. Here- educate yourself.
You can skip the off-topic and arrogant lecturing. I happen to have served in the IDF. My sister currently lives in the Negev, and she lets us know she's ok after each all-clear. I'm perfectly aware of the situation down there as well as its causes.
What visibility? What air-time? In one of a half-dozen notices he jots down every day on his personal website, he posted a short one noting Jobs' passing and expressing his personal opinion on the man's influence. He didn't write up and mass-mail a bombastic press release, or start going on all the television morning shows to dance on Jobs' grave. Nor did he pick a fight by disagreeing with any of the junk being said on "the news".
That some website with an agenda to get rid of him tries to make him out to look like a counter-productive asshole, and a newspaper tries to sell ads by pissing off the Apple fanbois with their "scoop" doesn't make Stallman an insensitive jerk. It makes them opportunistic.
Stallman's work on promoting freedom doesn't start and stop with sexy, controversial issues. Check out his website and the wide variety of things he advocates for and against; you'll see he's not the attention-whore people are making him out to be here.
Why does someone have to be a shill to disagree with you?
Because moderating 'flamebait' isn't a form of disagreement.
Your post was good example of a civil way to disagree. Abusing one's moderation power to cover up someone's opinion on the other hand is an act of violence, which generally happens when someone has an agenda to push. Hence you get accusations of being a shill or a fanboi.
drinkypoo was at worst answering an act of silencing in-kind, and even that sort of accusation seems too harsh.
A dedicated satellite isn't "a little redundancy". Reasonable levels of redundancy are already built into the satellite still up there awaiting repairs, as well as built into planes being flown across barren territory.
The possibility of it having a chance to save a single life will never justify that kind of expense. Even if you knew an MP would certainly lose their life, few wouldn't balk at the half billion dollar price tag of saving them. With that kind of money you can have a 100% certainty to save numerous lives.
If you know about how the Phelps cult works, you know that alongside brandishing their ridiculous picketing signs, they like to sing reworked versions of mainstream music. I recall hearing them do a modified version of a Gaga song not long ago. You could take them to court and sue for creating derivative works and unlicensed public performances. Considering they are making money doing this, there's definitely room to demand damages.
I'd love to see them try to defend themselves against some real (expensive) lawyers.
It can apply to any company that utilizes patent law to blackmail other companies.
And yes, Microsoft was one of the pioneers of making outrageous patent claims against Linux, heavily contributing to the current clusterfuck of litigation stifling innovation in the tech sector.
I guess a domain registration police department will become common in large firms now.
That's been a good idea since companies first started building a web presence. It's part of your brand and you want to make it's not tarnished. It should be one of the responsibilities of a corporate IT security department alongside encrypting laptops and intrusion detection.
Probably cheaper to outsource at least the detection part to a company who specializes in exactly that thing. I'd be surprised to hear no company provides such a service by now; especially registrars who deal with domain names 24x7 and certificate authorities who rely on domain name accuracy for security.
I took the one at the ecommerce place, but the company went near bankrupt after two months (didnt see that coming...they hired another guy same time as me, saying they were doing really well..)
Yep. Kids coming out of school can get shafted real good by a lot of misleading stuff going around the IT world, which is plentiful here in the US. The "ecommerce" thing I've come to view as a red flag (come on people- let that stupid buzzword die and RIP...), as are "market leader", "fast growing", "cutting edge technology" and various other vague, fancy shmancy- sounding phrases with which HR types load up their otherwise-unattractive job ads. As stated by others above, the headhunters are generally the most untrustworthy- ranging from incompetent to flagrant liars. And since they hide employers' company names, you can't even research a prospective employer until you've wasted the time and money going to an interview. Colleges and Universities would well serve those students who are just entering the job market by extending career training beyond the basic mechanics. The "Career Services" office at my university did a lot to help you craft resumes and cover letters, but they failed to convey any "street smarts" to the more sheltered and naive of my classmates. "Big salary at financial firms"? That means 80-hour work weeks and being treated like dirt, but it could help pay off those student loans. "Exciting entry-level position in the video game industry for someone who loves games"? Don't. Just don't. "The Next Google"? One of this year's crop of ten thousand "budding" "companies" "showing" "huge" "promise". Actually comprised of a two college buddy team lead by an ego-maniac; advise your parents you won't be moving out or drawing a salary for the foreseeable future.
It really sounds like you didn't since you're still suggesting a toy entering Google Labs implies support and are making the same suggestion that AI will die and die unexpectedly (the exact points I said people were missing). Just because Google makes something available for public testing does not mean it has any corporate backing, so there was neither an official position, nor a position reversal. I don't know where you got "marketing buzz"- this is nothing like Wave where significant resources were allocated. Developing a prototype that allows building tiny apps on a static version of Android is one thing. Committing to long-term support of an unprofitable product on a rapidly evolving operating system is a whole other matter. As long as something is in Labs, it shouldn't be used for anything mission critical.
You first explain that three months is too short a timespan to consider changes a curriculum, but then you would blame Google for your decision on basing long-term course planning around a completely experimental and unsupported technology? Google is doing as much as it can to mitigate potential damage, including continuing support for at least a full semester if not indefinitely. If the AI loses support in December and this hurts your schedule, that was only your failure to plan responsibly. You want a reliable technology to teach which is guaranteed to get them a job? Stick with C++. Want to still get kids excited? Use Python and constantly remind them "Googlers use this."
The Blackberry anecdote... Really? Taking RIM's toys mostly helps RIM maintain a desperately small developer base - it isn't necessarily helping the kids. Your last point is particularly nonsensical since the vast majority of mobile application developers don't work for the companies that built the devices (who need to know real programming like C++ and Java incidentally), so encouraging students to study BlackBerry out of convenience rather a more future-proof platform isn't something to be proud of.
"Google offering it".... "and then said, 'sorry, nevermind'."... "the idea that this product had the long legs of a major backer"
False premises, all three.
AI was not an offering or a product with any sort of backing. It was Google allowing a small group of Googler's to test out their 20% toy. That's all. This is a commonly-known aspect of Google's modus operendi. It's clearly stated on the About page:
App Inventor is a part of Google Labs, a playground for Google Engineers and adventurous Google users
It's amazing how people keep feigning outrage when Google tries to act like a profit-seeking business. It didn't just shut it down, but gave a 3-month notice. "End of the year" means educators can run their existing program for a full semester and update it in time for the next one based on what happens with AI. And Google isn't actually saying that AI will be unavailable to educators - the only thing that we know is going away in 90 days is the current URL:
Additionally, because of App Inventor’s success in the education space, we are exploring opportunities to support the educational use of App Inventor on an open source platform. As a result of these changes App Inventor will be available through the end of the year but users should expect the current App Inventor URL [appinventor.googlelabs.com] to change sometime in the next 90 days.
People seriously need to get a grip and relax their overdeveloped cynicism reflex. Then take just one damn minute to understand what's actually going on in the world rather than relying on the ubiquitous sensationalist editorializing and spreading the false information contained therein.
It's beyond annoying- it will deter me from posting things I otherwise would, when the content is critical of the subject. Every time I tell my friends about the latest idiotic thing Sarah Palin or Donald Trump say and why only an ignoramus could believe that, it'll link to their pages. I don't want those halfwits to get credited as being relevant just because I share a laugh with my friends, and I certainly don't want to be related to her even if only by hyperlink.
What would be reasonable is If possibly-related-pages were recommended to me, where I could choose to link to a page of my choosing. I'd be glad to have that ability (as well as the option not to use it). This is of course regardless of who is implementing it- I wouldn't want Google forcing unwanted semantics on my content either. Luckily, Google at least recognizes that my content is actually mine, so there's some hope there.
It would be trivial for Google to verify the logs, sure, but I doubt very much that the Mountain View Police Department would have an easy time with it.
They don't have to. All they need is to hire a credible computer expert to testify as to what the data actually says. If the subpoena includes Google's data analysis tools, it becomes even more trivial.
PS- "credible" means someone who doesn't spread conspiracy theories online.
That's a little dire, don't you think? Commutes are too long and/or electric cars are useless if they require a charge to get back home, let alone to go to lunch.
Oh, and where do you work? I'm sure a bunch of folks would love to know about this amazing employer of yours who provides charging stations for every commuter.:)
You might not get modded into oblivion if you would learn how to tell the difference between one man's opinion and consensus, or could distinguish between imperfection and failure, or understood why the linked "usage down 60%" story is based on unreliable information.
Google Plus is exceeding expectations of both its creators and its user base, despite what a small collection of very vocal paranoid privacy nuts would have you think. Where they get the idea that an unencrypted social network hosted by a private company you're not even paying is a smart place to conduct a revolution escapes me.
It's not what you claimed was happening.
Nor is it current.
Nor was it library-endorsed.
And it certainly wasn't library-initiated.
So... what the hell are you talking about?
Don't be stupid and don't spread stupid.
If your local library ignores the ALA, that's up to you to fix.
The main circuit breaker for my house is ~32A, which means that I can use about 7.3kW. 1.2kW is used by my computers, add the lights, TV, microwave, electric teapot and not that much is left for charging the car. I could get three phase power and more current but that would be expensive.
I'm sure this is a terribly stupid question but... Why do you run your teapot and microwave all night long?.
In related news: when asked about the company's upcoming plans, an InGen spokesman responded simply by saying: "we're gonna need a bigger boat."
The way I understand it from watching the only fair and balanced news channel in the world, being liberal is all about being wrong. Am I missing something?
</straight_face>
Um... Why would liberals have a problem with calling out some of the most oppressive anti liberal regimes in the world? I suspect you may be confused about what being liberal is all about.
The way I understand it from watching the only fair and balanced news channel in the world, being liberal is all about being wrong. Am I missing something?
</straight_face>
Violence is not limited to physical acts. Here- educate yourself.
You can skip the off-topic and arrogant lecturing. I happen to have served in the IDF. My sister currently lives in the Negev, and she lets us know she's ok after each all-clear. I'm perfectly aware of the situation down there as well as its causes.
What visibility? What air-time? In one of a half-dozen notices he jots down every day on his personal website, he posted a short one noting Jobs' passing and expressing his personal opinion on the man's influence. He didn't write up and mass-mail a bombastic press release, or start going on all the television morning shows to dance on Jobs' grave. Nor did he pick a fight by disagreeing with any of the junk being said on "the news".
That some website with an agenda to get rid of him tries to make him out to look like a counter-productive asshole, and a newspaper tries to sell ads by pissing off the Apple fanbois with their "scoop" doesn't make Stallman an insensitive jerk. It makes them opportunistic.
Stallman's work on promoting freedom doesn't start and stop with sexy, controversial issues. Check out his website and the wide variety of things he advocates for and against; you'll see he's not the attention-whore people are making him out to be here.
Why does someone have to be a shill to disagree with you?
Because moderating 'flamebait' isn't a form of disagreement.
Your post was good example of a civil way to disagree. Abusing one's moderation power to cover up someone's opinion on the other hand is an act of violence, which generally happens when someone has an agenda to push. Hence you get accusations of being a shill or a fanboi.
drinkypoo was at worst answering an act of silencing in-kind, and even that sort of accusation seems too harsh.
A dedicated satellite isn't "a little redundancy". Reasonable levels of redundancy are already built into the satellite still up there awaiting repairs, as well as built into planes being flown across barren territory.
The possibility of it having a chance to save a single life will never justify that kind of expense. Even if you knew an MP would certainly lose their life, few wouldn't balk at the half billion dollar price tag of saving them. With that kind of money you can have a 100% certainty to save numerous lives.
They use penguins on hamster wheels. Tell your friends- they'll be impressed by how smart you are.
This is actually worth exploration.
If you know about how the Phelps cult works, you know that alongside brandishing their ridiculous picketing signs, they like to sing reworked versions of mainstream music. I recall hearing them do a modified version of a Gaga song not long ago. You could take them to court and sue for creating derivative works and unlicensed public performances. Considering they are making money doing this, there's definitely room to demand damages.
I'd love to see them try to defend themselves against some real (expensive) lawyers.
I was thinking Apple would be more likely to utilize Kool-aid. *ducks*
Well since gold has been one of many items of value for 5,000 years
FTFY. You don't seem to understand what the words "maintain" and "volatile" mean.
Oh, and how many donkeys did you want for your daughter? They've been used even longer and are still in use, you know.
It can apply to any company that utilizes patent law to blackmail other companies.
And yes, Microsoft was one of the pioneers of making outrageous patent claims against Linux, heavily contributing to the current clusterfuck of litigation stifling innovation in the tech sector.
"Troubleshooting Time Machine" (Google)
About 5,720,000 Results (0.25 seconds)
Knock yourself out ...
The overwhelming majority of those are useless.
You'd want something more like "Troubleshooting Time Machine -"flux capacitor" -docbrown".
I guess a domain registration police department will become common in large firms now.
That's been a good idea since companies first started building a web presence. It's part of your brand and you want to make it's not tarnished. It should be one of the responsibilities of a corporate IT security department alongside encrypting laptops and intrusion detection.
Probably cheaper to outsource at least the detection part to a company who specializes in exactly that thing. I'd be surprised to hear no company provides such a service by now; especially registrars who deal with domain names 24x7 and certificate authorities who rely on domain name accuracy for security.
I took the one at the ecommerce place, but the company went near bankrupt after two months (didnt see that coming...they hired another guy same time as me, saying they were doing really well..)
Yep. Kids coming out of school can get shafted real good by a lot of misleading stuff going around the IT world, which is plentiful here in the US. The "ecommerce" thing I've come to view as a red flag (come on people- let that stupid buzzword die and RIP...), as are "market leader", "fast growing", "cutting edge technology" and various other vague, fancy shmancy- sounding phrases with which HR types load up their otherwise-unattractive job ads. As stated by others above, the headhunters are generally the most untrustworthy- ranging from incompetent to flagrant liars. And since they hide employers' company names, you can't even research a prospective employer until you've wasted the time and money going to an interview.
Colleges and Universities would well serve those students who are just entering the job market by extending career training beyond the basic mechanics. The "Career Services" office at my university did a lot to help you craft resumes and cover letters, but they failed to convey any "street smarts" to the more sheltered and naive of my classmates. "Big salary at financial firms"? That means 80-hour work weeks and being treated like dirt, but it could help pay off those student loans. "Exciting entry-level position in the video game industry for someone who loves games"? Don't. Just don't. "The Next Google"? One of this year's crop of ten thousand "budding" "companies" "showing" "huge" "promise". Actually comprised of a two college buddy team lead by an ego-maniac; advise your parents you won't be moving out or drawing a salary for the foreseeable future.
It really sounds like you didn't since you're still suggesting a toy entering Google Labs implies support and are making the same suggestion that AI will die and die unexpectedly (the exact points I said people were missing). Just because Google makes something available for public testing does not mean it has any corporate backing, so there was neither an official position, nor a position reversal. I don't know where you got "marketing buzz"- this is nothing like Wave where significant resources were allocated. Developing a prototype that allows building tiny apps on a static version of Android is one thing. Committing to long-term support of an unprofitable product on a rapidly evolving operating system is a whole other matter. As long as something is in Labs, it shouldn't be used for anything mission critical.
You first explain that three months is too short a timespan to consider changes a curriculum, but then you would blame Google for your decision on basing long-term course planning around a completely experimental and unsupported technology? Google is doing as much as it can to mitigate potential damage, including continuing support for at least a full semester if not indefinitely. If the AI loses support in December and this hurts your schedule, that was only your failure to plan responsibly. You want a reliable technology to teach which is guaranteed to get them a job? Stick with C++. Want to still get kids excited? Use Python and constantly remind them "Googlers use this."
The Blackberry anecdote... Really? Taking RIM's toys mostly helps RIM maintain a desperately small developer base - it isn't necessarily helping the kids. Your last point is particularly nonsensical since the vast majority of mobile application developers don't work for the companies that built the devices (who need to know real programming like C++ and Java incidentally), so encouraging students to study BlackBerry out of convenience rather a more future-proof platform isn't something to be proud of.
"Google offering it" .... "and then said, 'sorry, nevermind'." ... "the idea that this product had the long legs of a major backer"
False premises, all three.
AI was not an offering or a product with any sort of backing. It was Google allowing a small group of Googler's to test out their 20% toy. That's all. This is a commonly-known aspect of Google's modus operendi. It's clearly stated on the About page:
App Inventor is a part of Google Labs, a playground for Google Engineers and adventurous Google users
It's amazing how people keep feigning outrage when Google tries to act like a profit-seeking business. It didn't just shut it down, but gave a 3-month notice. "End of the year" means educators can run their existing program for a full semester and update it in time for the next one based on what happens with AI. And Google isn't actually saying that AI will be unavailable to educators - the only thing that we know is going away in 90 days is the current URL:
Additionally, because of App Inventor’s success in the education space, we are exploring opportunities to support the educational use of App Inventor on an open source platform. As a result of these changes App Inventor will be available through the end of the year but users should expect the current App Inventor URL [appinventor.googlelabs.com] to change sometime in the next 90 days.
People seriously need to get a grip and relax their overdeveloped cynicism reflex. Then take just one damn minute to understand what's actually going on in the world rather than relying on the ubiquitous sensationalist editorializing and spreading the false information contained therein.
It's beyond annoying- it will deter me from posting things I otherwise would, when the content is critical of the subject. Every time I tell my friends about the latest idiotic thing Sarah Palin or Donald Trump say and why only an ignoramus could believe that, it'll link to their pages. I don't want those halfwits to get credited as being relevant just because I share a laugh with my friends, and I certainly don't want to be related to her even if only by hyperlink.
What would be reasonable is If possibly-related-pages were recommended to me, where I could choose to link to a page of my choosing. I'd be glad to have that ability (as well as the option not to use it). This is of course regardless of who is implementing it- I wouldn't want Google forcing unwanted semantics on my content either. Luckily, Google at least recognizes that my content is actually mine, so there's some hope there.
Keep track of this case, and the second the lawyers get involved, contract yourself to the highest bidder for the data analysis
Call me crazy, but for some reason I'm under the impression Google already has a few hundred world-class data analysts on retainer.
It would be trivial for Google to verify the logs, sure, but I doubt very much that the Mountain View Police Department would have an easy time with it.
They don't have to. All they need is to hire a credible computer expert to testify as to what the data actually says. If the subpoena includes Google's data analysis tools, it becomes even more trivial.
PS- "credible" means someone who doesn't spread conspiracy theories online.
That's a little dire, don't you think? Commutes are too long and/or electric cars are useless if they require a charge to get back home, let alone to go to lunch.
Oh, and where do you work? I'm sure a bunch of folks would love to know about this amazing employer of yours who provides charging stations for every commuter. :)