Which is why Fr. Coyne was fired by the Pope in 2006 when he tied his best to contradict the Vatican while preaching #4.
A predetermined outcome for the universe, though, I'd point out does not necessarily include a predetermined outcome for our species; just as in science itself the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics doesn't prevent apparent local suspensions of entropy.
My fault for not being more descriptive- that's #3 above, and is virtually indistinguishable from #1, #4 and #5 (at least from any scientific standpoint- the only difference between #1,3,4, and 5 is theology, not science).
There are at LEAST 6 different versions of this: 1. Biblical Creationism- the world is 6000 years old (maybe 7000 now) and was created in 7 days. 2. Darwinian evolution- life was created in stages by natural selection. 3. Intelligent Design Engineer/Scientist- Life was created in stages by an engineer-diety using natural selection as an engineering process to an intended end. 4. Intelligent Design Parenthood- God gave birth to the first DNA as an offspring and only interferes as a kindly parent guiding, but not influencing, the end result. God doesn't know the future in this version. 5. Quantum Mechanical Atheistic Evolution- Natural selection is entirely unguided and random- the only thing limiting evolution is death of bad mutations. 6. Intelligent Design Creationism- a bad quasi-scientific cover for Biblical Creationism.
And that's not even going into NON-CHRISTIAN myths, I'd expect in Australia they should at least be teaching the myths of the natives in an ancient history class!
Step 1: Pay a teenager double the cost of the phone to buy the phone with his identity. Step 2: Have teenager report the phone as stolen. Step 3: Sell to terrorist @ 3x the cost of the phone. Step 4: PROFIT.
I think you missed my point: If you don't know that unattainable conditions exist, then you can't have a desire for them.
I said theology because I'm kind of mixing Buddha's teaching with Daniel Quinn's modern interpretation of Cain and Abel. Abel's perfectly happy in his little eden tending his sheep, but Cain wants more land to plant more wheat, so he burns down Abel's eden and kills him.
If Cain had never introduced Abel to agriculture- he'd have been happier. Same with any other education or technology.
Trade in today's world seems extremely dangerous to me from the non-economic standpoints of national security and disease control. So much so that it almost outweighs the economic benefits.
To that end, I recommend that any nation, not just the United States, ought to be able to provide basic human needs WITHIN IT'S OWN BORDERS; and only trade in luxuries that we could do without in an emergency. Because we never know when all communication is going to be cut off with the rest of the world by war or natural disaster.
The reason it won't work is because you're addressing only HALF the equation. As long as you still have a guy earning $4000/hr at the top end, raising the minimum wage will only raise prices until they once again exceed the ability of the poor to pay at the bottom end.
The actual amounts don't matter one whit; it's the distance between the bottom and the top that counts.
I'd go so far as to borrow some theology from Buddhism, and say that almost all the sorrow in the world for workers is caused by education beyond what they are allowed to do.
Actually, for most people (that is, those earning UNDER $125,000/year single), when you compare their year-to-year income with inflation income HAS been peaking in the negative for the last 40 years. It's largely been hidden by an increased use of credit, though, but that came to an end in September 2008.
College isn't a trade school, you're supposed to get a well-rounded education.
In that case, I'd have to question the social utility of colleges in a capitalist economy. The number of English and Philosophy majors capitalism can profitably use is vanishingly small, where the number of Engineers and actual professionals capitalism can use is comparatively huge.
Still more needed, though, is UNSKILLED LABOR, apparently, given the eternal quest by our crony-corporate controlled federal government for illegal aliens and the amount of times I've heard "You're overqualified" from HR idiots.
Actually, it's not a half bad idea- IF you enact minimum income refunds and maximum income taxes to control inflation such that we have a proper bell curve distribution of standard of living (as opposed to what we have now, which is still a bell curve, but one tilted heavily towards poverty).
In other words, pay should be proportionate to merit AND social utilization, rather than towards mere industrial profit.
In still other words for libertarians and the socially incompetent, Bam Bam and Pebbles should make enough money to have kids of their own with only an elementary education, to earn more they should have a high school graduation, and college requirement jobs should earn enough to pay off student loans in 1-2 years WHILE making enough money to raise a family.
So what you do is weave it into a circle of mats- which are fed into an old-fashioned wringer-washer on the deck of a tanker- and deployed off starboard aft and recovered port aft....just sail it around in circles, using the friction of the wringers to reel in and redeploy the circle of matts.
If I could come up with this in two minutes, I'm sure a real materials engineer could come up with an actual working solution based on it in a day or two.
Have you bothered to read the military history of Islam? I suggest you look into the invasion of Mecca in 624 A.D. Not exactly a man who took mercy upon those who kicked him out.....
"Lastly, I wonder if there is anything you're willing to "kill" for? Because whatever you come up with, short of "nothing", I can turn and make you look like an "extremist". And if you're not willing to kill for anything, then you're just a slave who is just waiting for a master."
I have my master. The once and future King Jesus Christ, and his servant and Vicar the Pope.
I'd rather die myself, and go to hell, than kill a human being, or change that relationship.
Wish you hadn't posted as AC. And included, war and euthanasia in that.
I've also recently been known to argue that fractional reserve banking is basically the same crime as abortion, murder, war, euthanasia and the death penalty, but the links are a little harder to see.
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Which is why Fr. Coyne was fired by the Pope in 2006 when he tied his best to contradict the Vatican while preaching #4.
A predetermined outcome for the universe, though, I'd point out does not necessarily include a predetermined outcome for our species; just as in science itself the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics doesn't prevent apparent local suspensions of entropy.
"seven or eight times longer than the universe has existed"
How can they tell that without a written history? Or does the oral history have so many stories that they couldn't have happened in less time?
"Also they would need to state that these natives had a more advanced culture that what Queensland has today."
"Advanced" is most certainly a subjective term.
My fault for not being more descriptive- that's #3 above, and is virtually indistinguishable from #1, #4 and #5 (at least from any scientific standpoint- the only difference between #1,3,4, and 5 is theology, not science).
There are at LEAST 6 different versions of this:
1. Biblical Creationism- the world is 6000 years old (maybe 7000 now) and was created in 7 days.
2. Darwinian evolution- life was created in stages by natural selection.
3. Intelligent Design Engineer/Scientist- Life was created in stages by an engineer-diety using natural selection as an engineering process to an intended end.
4. Intelligent Design Parenthood- God gave birth to the first DNA as an offspring and only interferes as a kindly parent guiding, but not influencing, the end result. God doesn't know the future in this version.
5. Quantum Mechanical Atheistic Evolution- Natural selection is entirely unguided and random- the only thing limiting evolution is death of bad mutations.
6. Intelligent Design Creationism- a bad quasi-scientific cover for Biblical Creationism.
And that's not even going into NON-CHRISTIAN myths, I'd expect in Australia they should at least be teaching the myths of the natives in an ancient history class!
Step 1: Pay a teenager double the cost of the phone to buy the phone with his identity.
Step 2: Have teenager report the phone as stolen.
Step 3: Sell to terrorist @ 3x the cost of the phone.
Step 4: PROFIT.
$#*! ain't my god, and I feel very sorry for you if $#*! is your God. (The Bible Defines Swearing as Taking the Name of the Lord your God in Vain.)
I think you missed my point:
If you don't know that unattainable conditions exist, then you can't have a desire for them.
I said theology because I'm kind of mixing Buddha's teaching with Daniel Quinn's modern interpretation of Cain and Abel. Abel's perfectly happy in his little eden tending his sheep, but Cain wants more land to plant more wheat, so he burns down Abel's eden and kills him.
If Cain had never introduced Abel to agriculture- he'd have been happier. Same with any other education or technology.
Hopefully negatively?
Trade in today's world seems extremely dangerous to me from the non-economic standpoints of national security and disease control. So much so that it almost outweighs the economic benefits.
To that end, I recommend that any nation, not just the United States, ought to be able to provide basic human needs WITHIN IT'S OWN BORDERS; and only trade in luxuries that we could do without in an emergency. Because we never know when all communication is going to be cut off with the rest of the world by war or natural disaster.
But it most certainly wouldn't have been used for anything; and the extra cost of the classes would have been most unprofitable to you.
Finally, the ONE guy who got it!
Crony capitalism is the natural end result of laisez faire capitalism- it's what happens when libertarians get enough money to hire lobbyists.
Under Crony Capitalism, corporations are the only citizens that count. EVERYBODY else is a slave.
The reason it won't work is because you're addressing only HALF the equation. As long as you still have a guy earning $4000/hr at the top end, raising the minimum wage will only raise prices until they once again exceed the ability of the poor to pay at the bottom end.
The actual amounts don't matter one whit; it's the distance between the bottom and the top that counts.
I'd go so far as to borrow some theology from Buddhism, and say that almost all the sorrow in the world for workers is caused by education beyond what they are allowed to do.
Actually, for most people (that is, those earning UNDER $125,000/year single), when you compare their year-to-year income with inflation income HAS been peaking in the negative for the last 40 years. It's largely been hidden by an increased use of credit, though, but that came to an end in September 2008.
Democracy alone isn't profitable
College isn't a trade school, you're supposed to get a well-rounded education.
In that case, I'd have to question the social utility of colleges in a capitalist economy. The number of English and Philosophy majors capitalism can profitably use is vanishingly small, where the number of Engineers and actual professionals capitalism can use is comparatively huge.
Still more needed, though, is UNSKILLED LABOR, apparently, given the eternal quest by our crony-corporate controlled federal government for illegal aliens and the amount of times I've heard "You're overqualified" from HR idiots.
Actually, it's not a half bad idea- IF you enact minimum income refunds and maximum income taxes to control inflation such that we have a proper bell curve distribution of standard of living (as opposed to what we have now, which is still a bell curve, but one tilted heavily towards poverty).
In other words, pay should be proportionate to merit AND social utilization, rather than towards mere industrial profit.
In still other words for libertarians and the socially incompetent, Bam Bam and Pebbles should make enough money to have kids of their own with only an elementary education, to earn more they should have a high school graduation, and college requirement jobs should earn enough to pay off student loans in 1-2 years WHILE making enough money to raise a family.
Is that too much to ask?
So what you do is weave it into a circle of mats- which are fed into an old-fashioned wringer-washer on the deck of a tanker- and deployed off starboard aft and recovered port aft....just sail it around in circles, using the friction of the wringers to reel in and redeploy the circle of matts.
If I could come up with this in two minutes, I'm sure a real materials engineer could come up with an actual working solution based on it in a day or two.
And in exchange for taking 10 guy's cards into the lecture with me, I'll be glad to use their on-campus meal points to feed the homeless.....
Did you miss the 45 Meccans he killed *first*? Or the army he raised before he returned to Mecca?
I can't see Jesus Christ, guy who yelled at his "rock on whom I shall build my church" for using a sword, leading an army. Can you?
I wouldn't kill to protect a grave or a religious building, not even a child's grave.
Have you bothered to read the military history of Islam? I suggest you look into the invasion of Mecca in 624 A.D. Not exactly a man who took mercy upon those who kicked him out.....
"Lastly, I wonder if there is anything you're willing to "kill" for? Because whatever you come up with, short of "nothing", I can turn and make you look like an "extremist". And if you're not willing to kill for anything, then you're just a slave who is just waiting for a master."
I have my master. The once and future King Jesus Christ, and his servant and Vicar the Pope.
I'd rather die myself, and go to hell, than kill a human being, or change that relationship.
Wish you hadn't posted as AC. And included, war and euthanasia in that.
I've also recently been known to argue that fractional reserve banking is basically the same crime as abortion, murder, war, euthanasia and the death penalty, but the links are a little harder to see.