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Decency Group Says "$#*!" Is Indecent
The Parents Television Council says the "$#*!" in the title of the upcoming CBS show $#*! my dad says is indecent. From the article: "'CBS intentionally chose to insert an expletive into the actual name of a show, and, despite its claim that the word will be bleeped, it is just CBS's latest demonstration of its contempt for families and the public,' declared PTC President Tim Winter. 'There are an infinite number of alternatives that CBS could have chosen, but its desire to shock and offend is crystal clear in this decision.'" By this logic Qbert was the filthiest game ever made.
First $#*!
Fuck the fucking fuckers!
no matter what you do some bed-wetting crybaby is going to bitch about it, so just ignore them and continue with what you want to do.
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
CSI shows chest cavaties that have been ripped open. Law and Order discussed horrible sex crimes. But heaven forbid you say a naughty word!
Didn't South Park already cover this?
Living With a Nerd
Kids should never be exposed to the symbols $#*!. They should have &^@%ed those symbols out.
Are these people so repressed that even the suggestion of a "naughty word" is enough to get them complaining ?
Have they really got nothing better to do with their time ?
I thought the Puritan movement died out in the 17th century, obviously I was wrong.
How have they missed the fact that "Shit My Dad Says" is the title of the source material? Complaining that CBS chose to "insert" the word into the title makes them look like the people who were horrified that New Line Cinema decided to use an obvious 9/11 reference in the sequel to "Fellowship of the Ring"..."The Two Towers."
(All that said, I could have sworn I read somewhere that CBS had retitled the TV show as "Stuff My Dad Says," but I guess I misremembered.)
Carlin were alive to appreciate this, since this is Number One on his list...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_Nrp7cj_tM
It's indecent.
Half of what airs on TV is indecent.
And you are offended by a censored TITLE?
Perhaps if you watched any of the Soap Operas they air on daytime TV, you'd re-consider how decent you thought TV was in the first place.
is this #$(@ing $#*!?
http://www.chaotickingdoms.com
"...If you don't like the show, use the "OFF" button"
oh! ermmm... They didn't say that did they!
Sorry...
Laters Sol "Have you found the secrets of the universe? Asked Zebade "I'm sure I left them here somewhere"
completely agree. I know you can't please everyone, but people today just seem to go looking for things to complain about.
How fucked in the head do you have to be for $#*! to be offensive... There's nothing there!
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
Not that I agree, but I understand where they are coming from.
If the 'F' word is banned in your school and the kids all of a sudden decide to say the word 'Squash' in lieu of the naughty word, eventually they become synonymous. Saying "Squash you, Mr. Teacher" is still potentially going to get you in trouble if the teacher knows what "Squash" means in that context.
So, the question really is, is the putting together of the letters F-U-C-K naughty, or the meaning and/or implied meaning of the word the naughty bit?
If it's the latter, then _any_ substitution of the word still implies the word and carries the negative connotation along with it.
Again, I don't agree with it and frankly, I think all words should be allowed. It's all part of the language and any negative feelings you have to a word are _your_ problem.
There are an infinite number of alternatives that CBS could have chosen but its desire to shock and offend is crystal clear in this decision.
I don't think we should take writing advice from someone who doesn't know the meaning of the word "infinite."
Well, unless a whole LOT of new words were added to human language without me knowing about it...
So THAT's the committee which decides which is a "bad" word? I've been wondering about them for years...
Yeah cause you never hear people say "shit" or much worse in about any situation I have ever been in during my life. I heard it at my Catholic primary school. This is what happens when "Christians*" live in little gated communities and become completely out of touch with reality and the wider community.
* I am a Christian. Most of the people that whine about this stuff aren't really Christians. They just believe in ritual and "decency", they seem to miss that Jesus was mocking this kind of Pharisaical behaviour. Well actually they generally miss most of what Jesus said or at least fail to apply it.
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CINC, 4th Penguin Legion
maybe it's because $# looks like SH at least they didn't write it $#!+ then this would be obvious that they chose those symbol on purpose!
After all, nobody really likes Ninnle, and it's so appropriate.
is that the crankiest, dumbest, lamest voices are also the loudest voices, on any issue
this PTC group consists of a handful of assholes who have self-appointed themselves as spokespeople for the rest of us, for our common decency, when the only thing they represent is a small shrill fringe of intrusive overcontrollling twatstains
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
So, really, what the Parents Television Council is ultimately aiming to do is outlaw THINKING bad words or thoughts, right? If the symbolism doesn't matter, it must be the underlying thought or intent, eh?
Yeah... good luck with that. I suspect the principals behind the PTC will wind up being the first ones locked up.
This is the exact reason television developed a rating system: to give parents a relatively easy way to decide what material is appropriate for their own kids. If parents want to have their children sequestered from the world of human speech, they have that right. However, no group has the right to tell another group what they should or should not say in any medium. It's the entire point of the first amendment.
My other sig is clever.
While they're at it, shoot, darn, gosh-darn-it, and golly are just surrogates for other "unacceptable" words too. Perhaps the PTC should be going after "Leave it to Beaver" reruns as well for promoting this kind of potty-mouth behaviour in children. Gee-wilikers, hey don't even "bleep" those words!
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
The vocal minority of folks with too much time on their hands and no dignity beg to differ.
Go to any public meeting (especially if it's during working hours) and see what I mean.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Fine, then remove $#*! and put back the word "Shit". If they're going to be offended anyway, might as well make it count.
bah.
If you've got a stick up your ass, you might as well fuck yourself with it.
And all you do is complain about it on Slashdot, which is why your opinion goes unheard.
Meanwhile, they get out their letter writing campaigns, their phone calls to senators, whatever it takes. Which is why they end getting listened to.
Frankly, I don't think the people at the FCC really care. If it were up to them alone, we would have swearing and nudity all over TV by now. But there are people who really do care, and they make a concerted effort to have their opinion heard. That is why they are listened to.
And really, that's kind of how it should be. If a small group of people really really cares about something, and the rest of us don't care too much, it's basic social wisdom to compromise in favor of the people who really do care. That's true in all human relationships, not just at the national level.
Qxe4
screw 'em
What do the decency groups know about indecency?
(. ) ( .)
Are these decent? I'm sorry, you can't wash out the filth out of my brain ... you can try, but I see the a-style logo and I see what I see, because of the filth in *my* brain.
If you see the same ... well *giggle*
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur
Dear PTC $#%, 345#$%#$ and $%#$%$#ers.
If you don't want to watch, please feel free to change the channel, otherwise leve me the f$#@ alone and let me enjoy my programming in piece.
P.S You busybody munch of f$#@@ing wanker eat $@#$ and die.
Love
A m$#@$%f$@er who's tired of your $#i@
Sorry. Maybe I'm getting old, but what is Qbert slang for? I know the game, BTW.
Think Deeply.
I block channels with religious programming, because I don't care to see it. If you are too sensitive to allow yourself to be exposed to implied vulgarity, feel free to block the channels that offend your delicate sensibilities.
Here's the gaff; YOU AREN'T CBS's CUSTOMER. Advertisers are. CBS is quite expert at attracting viewers. If you don't like their content, by all means DON'T WATCH IT.
This really isn't a difficult concept.
-Peter
and change the name of the show to Crap My Dad Says instead. That'll show 'em!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
"The PTC will wage an unrelenting campaign against every network advertiser that chooses to support this program; and in this instance, we will wage an unrelenting campaign against every local advertiser sponsoring the program at the affiliate station level," Winter warns.
And I will boycott any company that caves into these power hungry anti American pansies: against Free Speech = Anti American = Traitor.
And, I will put any company that tells these repressed sissies on the front of my purchasing list.
The PTC are a bunch of #^&@@*# and $&@((*$## swallowing ^$**##!
But PTC, because of the minority of people like you who can't take "harsh" words, I have stopped watching TV because it has become so infantilized to the point of being boring, vapid, and just a waste of time. Which is interesting because of those programs that are geared towards stupid people are perfectly fine to the PTC. The PTC likes stupid stuff and I guess that makes them stupid?
Never mind. I've wasted too much time thinking about those *&*@^# people at the PTC..
That's right Winter! I called you a *&^&*#$###! What are going to do about it you (*^(*(*@(*#**#####!!!
RIP America
July 4, 1776 - September 11, 2001
What's really offensive is that, in this day and age, we can't just say "shit" when we mean "shit". Queen Victoria may not be amused, but the Victorian age has been over for a long, long time.
Proud member of the Weirdo-American community.
"They're offended? Fuck, shit, asshole, shitfuck; they're just words...Fine. Shitfuck isn't a word, but you get my point."
How long has it been since Tim Winter last got laid? I wouldn't be surprised if he has no children of his own...
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
The $#*! stands in place of a word, in a particular context. It's the semantics of the underlying expression that is indecent, not the $#*! itself.
Let's ask this question: how can you fill in the blank in ``____ my dad!'' such that the sentence is decent, and yet the word filled in requires to be covered up with $#*!.
I do not think that adults who still talk to invisible friends have any right to make decisions for the rest of us.
Too many people have nothing to do!
You're part of the problem, you know. You've now set expectations such that "boys will be boys" and that the girls should just expect boys to behave like gutter trash and learn to live with it.
If you held "boys" to as high a standard for their behaviors as you seem to set for "girls" then you might be working to get the world to this neo-Victorian attitude that you seem to want to live with.
Personally, I think the Victorians were a bunch of overly-repressed fuckers whose hypocrisy is almost unmatched in the history of the world, and I'd hate to see us revert back to it. Even the hypocrisy of 1950's USA is tame in comparison. I actually think we're better off as a culture if we're more open about shit. When you liberally sprinkle your fucking vocabulary with shit that other people think is taboo, eventually the words lose all their goddamn power to shock and offend and they become nothing more than motherfucking words - which is what they should be. The word "shit" as in the title of the show "Shit my Dad Says" is a word that means nothing more than fecal matter unless you've got a goddamn stick rammed so far up your ass it makes you walk funny.
But whatever - it's a free country. If you want to fight for neo-Victorian attitudes I say fucking go for it. Balls out, as they say.
these decency groups need to take the stick out of their as- and raise their own children their own way and leave everybody else alone.
Everybody knows saying !@#$^ is indecent, yet we do that to convey a concept like stubbing their toe in the shortest possible method.
If they are so offended they need to stop bitching, it used to be saying breast of chicken was indecent. Yet its used everyday and in fact
breast refering to female anatomy isn't really a stigma anymore.
Change channel, or get a life, get a job (or a better one), throw out your tv and have sex once in a while. Frig! How they "think" (and I use that word loosely refering to them)
asterix is offensive?
I had a teacher in third grade, who forbade the use of the word "superman" because it contained the word "super" (slang for drinking in Swedish.) I was the only one in class who had even a shred of sympathy for her. Later I realized she had Asperger's, without any self-insight whatsoever, and every goddamn psychiathrist I've met swears I have asperger's too. I'm still prone to orange-and-blue humanity-absolved morality like this; if it seems insane, could that be because it is "insane"?
Emotions! In your brain!
People with allergies say ragweed pollen makes them sneeze.
-kgj
Swearing is immoral and God forbid our children seeing any naked bodies (male or female) on the telly.
On the other hand, violence (Rambo-like caricature violence is still violence) and titilation is probably OK.
I recently read that family groups were all up in arms because the little girl in the movie Kick-Ass said the word "cunts" or something like that. They did not seem to mind the fact that she murders tens of people in the film, though.
(oYo)
See? Much better! (Yes, filth is in the eye of the beholder.)
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
So they should change the channel or turn off their TVs and leave our community standards in place.
-- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
What, girls can never be devious or sexually adventurous without the prodding of a boy? Are you living in 1955?
-molo
Using your sig line to advertise for friends is lame.
My observations on the subject...
An effect language communicates the very broad range of human emotions that are possible. Everything from euphoric happiness to blinding hate. And there are many, many of those spectrums.
This is where curse words come in. They help or allow us to communicate some of those extreme emotions or feelings.
Accepting those words in everyday speech, making them less taboo diminishes their effectiveness. And in the end, simply necessitates us arbitrarily marking new words as taboo so as to communicate these important feelings.
I think all members of the PTC need to be shot and their children sold to poorer countries for their constant freaking out over nothing.
Do you warn the boys about crazy girls who will sleep with them and then accuse them of rape
And the first complaint we're going to send to the FCC is about the random unpronounceable symbols in the show title instead of using the more appropriate word "shit".
The PTC is an indecent group. To abuse a Twain quote, these people really do want to outlaw steak because babies can't chew it. It's even worse though... Their aim is to turn every television show into saccharin, content-less, right-wing Abrahamic-style "morality" approved, child-oriented programming, without exception. These are the same people who performed an automated letter writing campaign thing when Janet Jackson's nipple threatened to destroy the very fabric of society, thereby getting the massive increase in FCC "obscenity" fines a few years back.
On further thought, the steak and babies analogy actually fails with these people... after all, a nipple is one of the very first things a baby should see.
If God tries to make a buck from shock [Ezekiel 23:20], why not CBS?
http://bible.cc/ezekiel/23-20.htm
And people wonder "where were the parents" when kids go bad. I can pretty much point to the commenters to this thread and say "They were here"
I have a rich contempt for families and the public too, where do I sign up to show my support?
Wont someone think of the children?! ... maybe parents should step up and actually do some parenting instead of having some agency...
Please, give the puritan crap a rest. Women are just as filthy as men, perhaps more so.
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
You know, you're an asshole. I don't think I've ever started a post on Slashdot that way, and I really don't go in for name-calling, but you get the prize for driving me to it. You seem to have issues with males (I can't tell from your name whether you are one or not, but it's irrelevant), and you should be working through that yourself, not poisoning children's minds to share in your gender issues. No, BOYS will not drag girls into the gutter, some will, some won't. Just as some girls will be manipulative little monsters, and others won't. Shame on you for actively trying to damage these girls' outlook with regards to the other half of the population.
Great, another do-gooder who isn't affected by something, but feels compelled to "protect" everyone else. You appear to have mastered the use of the "off button" on your television, so instead of cheering for censorship, why not just help some other easily offended prats find it too, and quit telling others what they can and can't see on TV.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
Sounds dangerously close to the #! line in UNIX shell scripts specifying the required interpretor.
Wonder if this same group will now find the shebang indecent.
Morons.
You do realize God will punish you for downloading those shows and not watching the ads right?
Money, a sink, a rock and potion. How is that indecent?
-Magnus
I'd think programmers would understand that the value of a label is independent of the label's semantics, and two labels with the same value have, well, the same value. Whether the label is "shit" or "$#*!", we all know that both are used as conduits of the same meaning - although the latter does so by referencing the former. If someone is offended at the meaning of the former, they're offended at the meaning - and using a reference to the former does nothing to alleviate the meaning.
BTW, I'm amused at how many people express outrage or shock at someone else using obscenities, then spend a prolonged period talking about it with lots of quotations thereof in an apparent excuse to use the word themselves - somehow thinking that by using a reference they are absolved of the content referenced. "He said 'shit'! Isn't he bad? Yeah, he said 'shit'!"
Can we get a "-1 Wrong" moderation option?
It's ironic for a Sunday school teacher to insist men are the root of all evil when Eve clearly plucked the first apple. And girls like me hate having to be grouped into the same sex as girls like you. Just saying.
Uhm..wow.
How did you make the leap from "Is $#@$@ as offensive as the word it's covering up?" to blaming boys for "dragging girls down"? Besides that wonderful leap of logic, you then go on to say "HI! I download everything!" freely admitting you steal content. Perhaps you should reconsider your moral compass before trying to instill values in others?
I put on my robe and wizard hat..
So what you're saying is that using #$*! is immoral and wrong but watching shows without compensating the show creators and craftsman is fine.
Obama?
I'm kinda saddened by the comments I've read in regards to this story. Its obvious that the Slashdot crowd for the most part does not have children.
-- If we don't stand up for our rights, now, there will be no right to stand up for them later.
Oh, where are the mod points when you need them??
And while I agree with you, there's something...precious about a group like this still existing. In this day and age, someone can still be scandalized by the suggestion of a four-letter word?
It boggles the mind.
I mean, when reaction videos for 2 girls 1 cup are practically mainstream entertainment, there's still room in the world for these folks, somehow?
Now, as long as they don't actually influence anything, let alone government policy, we're all fine. Somebody's gotta keep the fainting couch manufacturers in business, anyway...
its desire to shock and offend is crystal clear in this decision
Heaven forbid we have things that "shock and offend". Martin Luther King Jr shocked and offended many people when he spoke out for civil rights, Rosa Park shocked and offended many people when she didn't give up her seat, Patrick Henry shocked and offended many people when he shouted "give me liberty or give me death" and yet we still call those people "heroes"
The fact is, shocking and offending people should be a right because without it, our nation would not exist.
You have no right to not be offended, the right to offend, however, is paramount.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
So wouldn't about fifteen billion cartoon strips from the papers then be indecent too? Fucktards.
...to my intelligence. Blanking out cusses is pointless, because we decode them on the fly. Who looks at f*** and doesn't read fuck? Either don't swear at all or do it fucking properly.
Seems appropriate.
This post cannot be rebroadcast without the express written constent of Major League Baseball.
CBS President: So let me get this straight - you're condemning the show for having "$#*!" in the title?
Head of PTC: Absolutely. It's clearly indecent!
CBS: And you've sent press releases to every news organization and major blog across the country affirming that this is your position?
PTC. That's right. And what are you going to do about it?
CBS: (stifles a giggle) What am I going to do? Cartwheels all the way back to the office!
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Prisencolinensinainciusol. Ol Rait!
$#*! is not a valid regular expression. And are there really an infinite number of possibilities? There are people out there who think that if enough people meditate, world peace will happen. So, not surprisingly there are people who think that if too many f-bombs are dropped the planet will explode.
not sure if anyone has posted this yet but the show is based off a popular website of the same name. Something to consider when marketing dollars are taken into account...
CBS is trying to be "edgy" by pulling this stunt. They could have called it "Crap My Dad Says" but instead did this because they knew it would be controversial and therefore raise awareness of the new show. Those clever CBS execs got this show mentioned on Slashdot.
The PTC is right that everyone knows what "$#.!" really means because of the "... My Dad Says" at the end. Sure it appears harmless, but I don't think it sends the right message to children who are too young for the show in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the show existing on regular television. However, knowing how CBS operates this show will be promo'd during "family friendly" shows via those damn "pop ups" and 15 second commercials.
What if CBS made a show called "The @#&^%#$ of Harlem"? Wouldn't the PTC be right to protest such a title for a show? It doesn't explicitly say the word, but I bet you know what it may mean. It could mean "The Princes of Harlem", but they would be counting on people interpreting it as something controversial (and racially offensive).
In the end, this will probably bite CBS in the ass. The show will suck (most do) and the advertisers won't like the negative attention the group can organize toward their brands.
These comments are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of my employer or colleagues...
They have a lot of swear words in them They begin with a #!
And you all bloody idiots should fucking learn from our superior civilization and do all just like us!
I agree with you; it seems that this individual needs to get off *her* ivory tower and realize the Victorian age was as morally contrived. They had their *dirty* little secrets. I said *her* because of the association that girls are held to a higher pedigree. Anyways, back to my tangent - shit was actually an acronym for Store High In Transport. S.H.I.T, words will always change, from the proper to the colloquial. People like this that cry and preach the loudest..... for the children; are always the first culpable of the sin.
Of all the things I've lost; I miss my mind the most. - Mark Twain
then they should use the ACTUAL letters. SHITAKE only without the extra 3 letters that time time and mushroom spores add.
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Freedoms, such as the right of free speech, should never be put to a vote or otherwise abridged.
If you don't like it, don't watch it. You have no right to say what people can and can't say.
If it doesn't harm anyone, it should be perfectly legal. The government is only here to protect us against fraud and force, things that actually harm people, not a "swear" word. Oh how terrible is it that I hear an Anglo-Saxon word meaning feces when the latin word meaning the same thing feces is said without anybody really caring.
The government exists to protect us from harm, please tell me how swear words "harm" us in any way.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
"I tell girls that boys will drag them as far down in the gutter as they will allow."
and somehow "christians" have the unmitigated gall to say that they're morally superior to Muslims.
Sounds like they're cut from the same cloth to me.
I used to teach Sunday School, when I still believed enough of it for them to let me. Fortunately, the church I did it in didn't require me to confuse religion with blinkered social conservatism, so I got away with it.
Quidnam Latine loqui modo coepi?
Does this pass the smell test?
Prove anything by multiplying Huge Number times Tiny Number
Except that anyone who has been around kids realizes that giving a child what it wants whenever it decides to throw a fit is only setting themselves up for a child that constantly throws fits. These interest groups are no different.
The FCC rolls over whenever they throw a big stink over something that offends them, so they throw fits all the time with the expectation that they will always get what they want. And it works.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
If a small group of people really really cares about something, and the rest of us don't care too much, it's basic social wisdom to compromise in favor of the people who really do care.
I am offended by the material that FOX news spews out, but I always thought that as part of a free society that they had a right to express their view of things. Were I to complain about their content and organize people to bury the FCC in letters, I would be censoring them and denying their freedom of speech. Unlike the socially conservative right, I do not infringe on other's rights to express themselves when I don't like what they have to say. I want to see swearing on TV. I want Kevin Smith writing shows. I want to see George Carlin's old shows run on TV.
Your 'social wisdom' is simply caving to a small minority of vocal bullies that want to control what others see and do.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
is ahead of this as usual.
it's basic social wisdom to compromise in favor of the people who really do care.
Not when they are actively seeking out the object of their ire. In such cases they basically cannot be constructively compromised with as accommodating them will only result in them seeking out more material to be offended at and widening their criteria for offensiveness. As this case illustrates.
The correct way to deal with such people is to offer them counselling so they can get help with their actual problem and perhaps cease their offence addiction.
What I find really frakking funny about "frak" is that there are people who have never even seen the show using it as an expletive. I first remember hearing it outside the context of BSG sometime in the late 80s; then it seemed to die out for a while but it's back and seems even more common now.
Languages change, indeed...
SB
It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
However, the shows you mentioned portray murder and rape as "bad things", while "shit my dad says" glorifies it. There is a difference. They're retarded to try to protect their warped view of American culture, but so are the asshats who hate me for using the word "retarded"
It's all in your mind anyway. Get over it.
Here, watch some Sesame Street that is surely safe for you and your kids...
The "PTC" is simply trying to get publicity for their beliefs. If the OP thinks their point is ridiculous (as do I), then sadly he just gave them exactly what they wanted. Better to just ignore them and move on, otherwise they're just going to feel empowered and possibly start getting the attention of people who think this is worth-while.
It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
I have a very close female friend who's out of sorts because she's always been told that her being sexually adventurous is bad, and that she shouldn't like sex. It tears her up inside, and she feels that she needs to hide that side of her from her friends and family. She feels that since she likes sex, she should feel like a whore.
It's assholes like you that did that to her. She's broken inside, and hell if I know if it's fixable.
Fuck society.
Help! I'm a slashdot refugee.
Should the word "stuff" be illegal?
No, because "stuff" meaning "to fill [an orifice] with a penis" is not a common meaning.
Should the very word "intercourse" be illegal, as it has exactly the same meaning as "fuck"?
No, because "intercourse" is a medical term.
Should it be illegal to say "a child without a father", since it is synonymous with "bastard"?
No, because "child without a father" is accepted legal language, as is "child born out of wedlock".
Just call the show "2 Girls 1 Cup". No one could say that name is indecent.
...really must be Devil spawn!!
just call it "Shat my dad says".
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Stay tuned for some shock and awe coming right up after this messages!
And made the title "53484954 My Dad Says"
Just need to grow up. In America a company can (or should be able to, as was the framers of our country visioned, respecting the rights of man) do whatever it wants. If what it sells is deemed indecent by the people, then that company will go belly up (unless they get bailed out and propped up). Moral of the stry, CBS can do wahtever the fuck they want, and if you don't like it don't watch that show, or the network at all. Problem solved.
Captcha: Tolerant - The liberal bible-thumping pansies are anything but tolerant
Been following this one for a year or two now.
http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
I hate rehashed shit. Way to go CBS, way to not be original....
With all due respect, the 'Decency Groups' can eat my $#*!.
Beloved Muppet Beaker has provided a well stated response to the school board.
You tell 'em Beaker!
--sabre86
But this DOES sound like a load of carp!
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
To be fair, it's not the bleeped out expletive that's offensive; but the context. The show title is clearly showing an extremely hostile view of the show's father, and phrased generically. Show titles are not just something that shows up once in a show. They're what everyone knows the show as, and get reprinted continually. Would a show called "All women are $*&^$" get air time? Or "@#&^$ those (&^$^ black (*&*&(ers"? I think not.
The (in)decency group should practice the free will God granted them and cease the sin of passing judgement.
The plan is to control the fucking message. See TX textbook shit.
I wonder what that stands for? Oh, sure, they SAY it stands for "Parents Television Council", but we all know what it REALLY means.
After years of reading what passes for writing on blogs and forums, I'm not at all surprised to discover that the public actually finds punctuation offensive.
accommodating them will only result in them seeking out more material to be offended at and widening their criteria for offensiveness.
Do you not understand that this is how everyone acts after a compromise? If not, you have utterly failed to understand how politics works. Abortion advocates and opponents both fight to push the law their way. They are not happy with the compromise that was achieved by Roe VS Wade. Neither side is. They will continue to push until things are the way they want.
It is that way with everything. Did free silver advocates stop when the silver buyback program was announced? No, the kept pushing for 16:1 for the next 50 years. Did the proponents of single-payer healthcare rest after medicare was announced? No, they kept pushing, as did their opponents. Find any issue that is controversial, and you will find that people keep pushing. Are you going to offer counseling to all of them? Because that will end up giving counseling to pretty much everyone, including you, who are pushing for your own personal viewpoint, and have essentially declared yourself as not willing to compromise.
On second thought, maybe it would help if everyone got counseling.
Qxe4
> By this logic Qbert was the filthiest game ever made.
By the same logic, Winnie the Pooh was the filthiest children's book ever. "Oh bother."
Parenthetically, why "republicans" in the tags? According to the PTC website, the filthiest network is Fox. Which side is supposed to be republican? Just wonderin'.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Where the person is wrong is that sex somehow deserves to be in the gutter.
And yet, you are speaking of a relationship "degrading" to sex from the supposedly ideal "platonic". How is that cognitive dissonance working out lately?
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
The idea that you teach in a religious school is frightening. You do realize that your lesson, as you described it, to those girls was in actuality:
1. Boys are inherently evil
2. Boys should be expected to try to make you evil too.
3. Girls are not inherently evil, but "catch" their evil from boys.
4. Girls should tolerate evil in order to interact with boys, but only up to their "tolerance" level.
ugh. Thanks for spreading your sick worldview and corrupting young minds.
If that isn't what you actually communicated to those children, then you were highly ineffective in communicating that in your post. Ineffective to such a degree that I would challenge your qualifications to "teach" much of anything.
Frankly, I don't care one way or the other about CBS or the use of language. Cursing is offensive only in that it is language intended to harm the reciever. For those who cry "it's just words", I counter that you are incredibly ignorant.
Words are a form of communication. Cursing, in earnest, at another person is an attempt to inflict emotional harm using verbal abuse. It is not appropriate to use it in jest, but people often do inappropriate things. I will not stand for someone else attempting to injure myself or my family, or innocent people for that matter, either emotionally or physically. So....beware who you curse at. Curse at me or at a child near me, and you will probably get a firm warning from me. Do it again and you are very likely to get a punch in the face, even if you think its harmless or funny.
Same as if you were yelling at some small child that they were fat, stupid, ugly, dirty, etc. I'm willing to stand in front of a jury for that...again.
I know I am in the minority in this, but it's not like we don't know what it stands for. (Or well, maybe we don't? I thought it was "shit" but I see a lot of "fucks" in the comments.) Personally, I don't really care if my kids cuss since I did a lot of that as a kid myself. However, I don't see the point in half-censorship. Pretending like $#*! isn't "shit" and @$$ isn't "ass" is just nonsense, so just say SHIT or FUCK or whatever cuss word you want or omit it entirely. (Ditto for s*** and f***.) Now, if you can't say these things on TV, then why allow the bullshit pussy semi-censored versions? It's not like we aren't all automatically doing the transliteration in our heads. I remember swear words getting edited out of movies showing on TV when I was a young child, and even at that age it was always pretty obvious what the original line was. It is inconsistent to allow one but not the other. Again, I am on the they-should-just-allow-cussing side of that argument, but it is a different (though related) argument.
... that that's the variable for determining what the comment character is. perl... is there anything you can't do? ;)
They have no less right to be listened to than you do. That's why we have processes and judges set up to figure out what will eventually end up happening. If you want to change things, go through the processes, just like they do. As someone around here commonly says, soapbox, ballotbox, ammo box. But the ammo box is only necessary when someone hijacks the process.
Qxe4
You understand very little of sexual biology and how it motivates the sexes. There are, of course, the atypical genetic anomalies. However they represent roughly >1% of any mammalian population. The vast majority of male mammals (human or not) have sexual impulses so strong during adolescents that rational thought becomes secondary. For females, it's a strong maternal instinct which is manifested post-adolescent. It's not myth; it's undergradualte-level biology.
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When FOX first aired The Best Damn Sports Show Period! It was such a big deal. The word damn used to be lumped in with shit and fuck as too obscene for TV. Now I hear "shit" on regular TV shows after 10 pm. We all hear the word every day in our daily lives and in just about every movie we watch that isn't G rated. I just have to laugh when these groups feel it necessary to think for the rest of us when they shouldn't be allowed to think for themselves.
Freedoms, such as the right of free speech, should never be put to a vote or otherwise abridged.
This is a naive view. If you feel that freedom of speech should never be abridged, take it up with the supreme court, who disagrees with you.
Essentially you have the right to say whatever you want, but not wherever you want. And that makes sense.
Qxe4
I know there were a couple of girls in my school who were devious and sexually adventurous and there were no boys involved.
My office has been taken over by iPod people.
I teach driver's ed, (and haven't taught anything else).
I tell boys that girls will push them as far down into the gutter as they will allow.
Its up to the boy to show disapproval of the girl's chaotic driving when they have reached their tolerance level.
CBS is attempting to extort fanatics that will provide the show with free media attention. Kudos for helping them on their endeavor.
For me, I do not download everything illegally, I support software development and those shows I feel that it is warranted. I can endure a few ads for that matter!
This self-censorship is to me appalling, hell my grandmother even calls it ludicrous and she is Catholic!
Bored this summer, help a good cause
-commonSense
The only group here showing contempt for the family and the public is the Parents Television Council.
Anyone got a light for my sig?
The PTC has been trying to make themselves relevant for some time now. They are more worried about making headline, rather than doing some good in the world. It is not like CBS is actually implying that people should engage in sexual intercourse/sodomy with their own fathers.
My girlfriend is approaching deaf and we watch TV and movie with Closed Caption enabled. When certain words on certain channels, such as "shit, fuck, damn, ass, asshole, goddamn", etc are used by the actors, we usually see "s---, f---, d---, a--, a------, g------", etc. Where is this crazy group's feigned outrage on that?
Wisdom for CBS:
"Stop trying so hard. He doesn't like you. Jesus, don't kiss an ass if it's in the process of shitting on you."
5:03 PM Apr 26th via ShitMyDadSays.com
$#*! - ok, obviously this is obscene - can't you people see this?
Simply put these 4 symbols are saying:
"For money, POUND the "Star"(fish)" with an exclamation point for emphasis. Promoting anal sex for money on the public airwaves is obviuosly indecent. Frankly, I'm shocked this made it past the CBS censors. Thank god some do-gooder group alerted the world to this!
So you're OK with risking our rears on the highway by speeding AND you're also trying to raise our kids for us. Lovely.
Let me guess.... you're composed solely of vinegar and water.
Don't tell me to get a life. I'm a gamer; I have LOTS of lives!
Cursing is using specific language in an attempt to harm the receiver. If the receiver was not taught that those words were "bad", they would lose most of their power to harm. How do people learn that words are "bad"? Because people censor them when they use them.
I tell girls that boys will drag them as far down in the gutter as they will allow.
Its up to the girl to thank them when they're done and then go make a sammich.
FTFY.
Oh I'm sorry, was that incredibly sexist? I thought you wouldn't mind since yours was just as bad.
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
According to Google image searches ... it's not only a word ... but an activity as well!
L'esperienza de questa dolce vita (The experience of this sweet life) - Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
I forgot which Russian author stated this, but I can see how the statement "swear words are weapons of the intelligent as opposed to sticks and stones of the masses" can be true. And if you do not dilute your language with "fucks" and "shits" (like college students and drunken sailors do), then swearing will underline your emotions. Unfortunately too many people do not realize it and instead of teaching their kids how to swear properly, they demand censorship of TV and radio programming. As a result we raise mindless generations who will overuse swear words which in its turn will prompt more parents to ask for censorship. I guess this is done by the same people who have not read anything outside their high school English curriculum...
First, I agree with the other replies that you are poisoning young girls minds. By setting those expectations, you are almost giving boys a free pass to act that way as well. Did you consider that? Second, CBS isn't trying to do anything. It's the title of a book/twitter account. CBS is merely repeating it, and they shouldn't have to censor it at all. Words have only the power you give them, and profanity simply should not be given this much power. Saying "shit" only has shock value if you allow yourself to be shocked.
What is this world coming to? I remember a time when all the words in a TV show's title were spelled with legitimate, God-fearing letters. I blame the Internet with its overtly sexual use of the @ symbol, which my grandson tells me has something to do with sodomy. My word! Millions of email addresses, all of them carrying a subliminal advertisement for taboo intercourse!
Let us begin with these-
http://www.indopedia.org/index.php?title=List_of_fictional_curse_words
Everytime I hear one of them I run to the nearest child and cover their little child ears. It is only then that I feel I'm helping society in any meaningful way.
No, I don't agree with the supreme court (and really, unelected judges as a whole) on a lot of issues.
And no, it doesn't make sense. So long as it isn't harming others (like yelling fire in a crowded theater, or libel) it should be allowed.
I fail to see how any swear word I can think of can be harming others.
Unless there is someone who dies if they see: ass bitch fuck shit cunt arse shite bloody damn hell or any other "swear" word.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
"Drag them as far down in the gutter as they will allow" implies a HELL of a lot more than sex, and is extreme enough of a comment to be teaching children that, NO, I don't think the parent was quick to judge at all. Not to mention the fact the the GP made the statement in a non-sexual context, making your "need to procreate" argument completely irrelevant to begin with.
My sig can beat up your sig.
Turns out they're all run by closeted gays.... Let's do some TV shows about that... See if that doesn't shut 'em up for half a second.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
Fuck CBS. They knew the rules before they decided to air this show. The source material has a near constant barrage of words that have been off-limits to CBS since the inception of the network. IMO this gives the show zero chance to be as funny as the twitter. That old guy is hilarious. Shatner would probably be great in the role. But let's face it, an integral part of what makes shitmydadsays funny is the language that he uses. Do it right, put it on HBO....and get off my lawn. I have no opinion about the decency fuckheads.
By this logic Qbert was the filthiest game ever made.
Q*bert was the filthiest game ever made. Just look at the appendage on that guy. I think you and I both can imagine what that thing was made for.
"I don't care about the Constitution!" --Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009
Only the lunatic fringe right cares about this. They make a lot of noise so they continue to be funded by the conservative lunatics. The sad part is that they get equal airtime.
I hate being bipolar; it's awesome!
... at least they didn't decide to go with a pictogram showing a photo of a freshly pinched-off and steaming turd as part of the title.
Perhaps CBS's mistake was not starting with something much more vulgar like that and then bartering down to $#*!.
8==8 Bones 8==8
The game is not filthy. However, what I tended to say while playing it was.
--- What?
Congratulations on trying to brainwash the next generation with your fake beliefs.
It says right here !@$%^&*() ! !
As the author of an acceptable use policy for dozens of employees I feel a sudden urge to hire more lawyers.
Dan Savage (gay sex columnist) has managed to more-or-less successfully associate a name of some target prig with an act/thing with which that prig would be publicly horrified to be associated. For example: santorum So to make mention of PTC ("Parents Television Council") should now refer to some indecent act involving shit: "oh man, he's probably into PTC or somesuch shit"
As far as CBS is concerned, making money from shock is the status quo. Why else would Fox promote clearly mentally ill Glen Beck so we can laugh at him like a carnival attraction. I think we can trace that back all the way to Lucy being married to the Cuban.
Of course, if you like a program and only watch downloading, then one can't really expect the programming to stay, unless we do eventually live in a socialist country in which the government steals money from us to produce the shows the liberal elite wants.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
And no, it doesn't make sense. So long as it isn't harming others (like yelling fire in a crowded theater, or libel) it should be allowed.
I guess you disagree with public nuisance laws, too. I'm glad most people disagree with you, then, because I don't like being harassed by annoying people on the street who don't make any sense. They have other ways to communicate with people who might want to hear them, they don't need to be annoying.
As for TV, I have no opinion on the issue since I don't watch it.
Qxe4
That's a nice, clinical description, which in the real world falls apart pretty quickly. Plenty of guys go out, spend the night flirting and have no intention of actually trying to have sex with anyone, and I've seen plenty of girls at my local bar who are looking to get laid and leave with a different guy every weekend. Those girls aren't poor innocent waifs who have been taken advantage of, they're adults who choose to have sex when they want to. There's also nothing wrong with what they're doing. Women are just as grown-up and competent as men when it comes to sex, and are perfectly capable of deciding whether they want to sleep with someone or not.
No they are not correct. Is it okay make them aware that some guys will lie and do what it takes to get them into bed? Sure. Is it okay to teach them that guys only want one thing, and it's in their pants? No, it is not. That's how you create a girl with problems with self confidence, and trust issues.
I have plenty of friends who are women, and there's absolutely nothing sexual about our relationships. They don't have to play gatekeeper to my uncontrollable desires, and I don't have to worry about them innocently falling prey to my sneaky male charms. That's the real world for ya, we really are more than just a collection of base instincts.
Some bring out the best in others, some the worst. Some bring out far more.
by similar logic Microsoft have themselves a contraction of the word fucking and called their phone it.
'kin hilarious if you ask me...
If TV were more like the internet, you could just choose the content right for you without a fucking committee..
Oh, wait.
You can get 15 minutes of fame, but you can go down in history for infamy.
"I teach sunday school, (and have taught 9th grade also).
I tell girls that boys will drag them as far down in the gutter as they will allow."
YOU are poisoning young impressionable minds with your own ignorant prejudices.
It's a good thing most smart people know better than to allow twerps like you to
plant bullshit in the minds of their impressionable children.
Apparently, "Pharisaical" is on average only used twice in a sample of every 100 million words, which is probably why I had to look it up.
Fork them. Those mother forkers have no forking idea about what the fork they are talking about. Any forking word can be used as an expletive, and if they can't forking take it, then they should forking close their eyes or move to a forking cave. Mother forking ice holes like them deserved to be forked with a rusty spoon up their bible.
Fork this.
I get so tired of these moral hate mongers trying to control what happens in the rest of the country, we already have corrupt politicians for that. Let them ban it in their own little corner of the world, STFU, and leave the rest of us alone.
roughly >1%? So, roughly 1-100%? Can you get any less precise? Anyway, it may represent only 1% of mammalian population, but humans are better able to overcome our instincts than other mammals, so I'm sure you'll find that the number you pulled out of your ass will be much higher when applied to humans.
I thing that $#*! is perfectly acceptable in polite society, %&@# on the other hand.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
You Americans(the USof variety) are becoming quite indecent, can the rest of the world vote on banning YOU?
. . . that such an advanced society as ours is saddled with a small set of practically ancient expressions to express our contemporary feelings. Words that rhyme with duck and sit and hunt and tips for such profoundly emotional moments such as when the IRS sends an audit notice or your ex-wife publishes You Tube video of her and your former best friend copulating while she moans "finally a real piece of meat" or when your boss informs you that your job has moved to India and left you here alone. These "lifetime memories" deserve something more than the same short guttural epitaphs used by 19th Century cattlemen or, even worse, "$#*!" that cannot even be pronounced. After all, we are in the Third Millennium, the age of Urban Dictionary and Wiktionary. Let's try to come up with something more original and certainly more profane than "$#*!"
When they said it, though, they didn't have testicles in mind: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=balls+out Steam power, all the way!
Successful troll is successful.
The stories and info posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only fools would take it as fact.
Nothing new. There was outrage when a 1960s kid's program said Oh sod it! the fucking thing's stuck again.
With notes on a trombone.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
$&%*!!! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!3
Of course they are; that's a benefit of a more advance brain. Except, as I said, during adolescents. That's when sexual urges are the strongest (for males). During that time, even the noble human male is likely to make very irrational choices based on little more than even marginal sexual stimulation. Read (or write) a few research papers one the subject and you will doubtless come to the same conclusion.
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I've taught Sunday school as well. Not sure I agree about the whole boys dragging girls down thing when I've witnessed plenty in the opposite direction. Boys and girls are both perfectly capable of being depraved. Hence the reason we need a Savior. I would say that I agree that the title is designed to be shocking and is fairly inane and senseless, and self censorship is the only way to fly. Let their ratings tank, and they can rethink their strategy. I thought they'd already learned this lesson once.
That is amusing considering how much trouble women have gotten me into.
Lets do a quickly look at just my life:
I've been thrown in jail because of a girl (FYI - no physical harm or threats were ever leveled at her).
I've had to push back my thesis defense because of a girl.
I've had to explain why I can't be the father of a child when I never had sex with the mother.
I've had to seek counseling for mental abuse caused by multiple women.
I've had to smooth out a friendship when a girl tried to destroy it.
I've been used to make other men jealous.
I've been used as a human dildo.
I've been lied to about why they don't want to be around me anymore.
I've had to argue why men are just as capable as women in anything that doesn't involve giving birth (and maybe manipulation).
I've had to physical fight off the attention of a girl I wasn't interested.
I've been laughed at, mocked and shunned by more girls then I care to think about.
The worst thing I've ever had to deal with from men is physical violence and some mocking. So I strongly suggest getting off your high horse and start living in the real word were if you want to see the worst side of humanity you look at women, not men. I know when ever I get the opportunity to explain the facts of life it goes like this:
1)women are evil
2)men are dumb
3)get over it.
I suggest change from "$#*! my dad says" to "PTC* my dad says".
* Parents Television Council
can go get f#@ked as far as I'm concerned.The attempt at censoring everyone's speech is patently obscene.Piss off,NPC and you can kiss my red hairy A$$
Geek Hillbilly
Peoples that did that to her are called moralfags. The "fag" suffix is to add a little pejorative twist.
Spread the word, let them know how you feel. Once they finaly understand they are a minority and the world has moved on since 1900, they will shut the fuck up and stop causing harms to others.
something like: U2hpdCBNeSBEYWQgU2F5cw== see how long it takes for groups to figure it out.
With a 9 year old in my house, we simply do not watch Prime Time TV any more. Even if the show might be OK, the commercials are NOT! TV sucks anymore.
Because the first is relating culturally; i.e. degrading. The second is personal opinion, I don't find it degrading, but society does.
Ideal for me is not platonic, ideal for society is.
And yes, I realize that women want sex more than men, however generalizing they are more picky. I do know some women who aren't picky and enjoy random sex, but out of all my female friends only two view sex that way as opposed to hundreds who don't. Of my male friends hundreds are OK with casual sex, where only the religious ones aren't.
I agree with your point, and am not sure about one thing:
Shame on you for actively trying to damage these girls' outlook with regards to the other half of the population.
My experience hints me to the possibility that cellurl believes that she is doing and saying the right thing. Because that's what was done to her, and she never questioned that belief. So now, it's "truth," along with many other implanted beliefs.
Teaching Sunday school is all about indoctrination and conditioning. With the teachers truly believing that they are spreading light and good, with the best of intentions. Of course! This is the best way to have good people do evil, to poison children's minds, teach them self-hate, shame, obedience, fear.
The church has been doing it for millennia, along with torturing, ethnic cleansing, corruption and killing. That's the only way it can exist.
Stop protecting kids from reality and making them unable to live their own lives...
and do yourself a favor: go to youtube and watch "child worship" by george carlin
The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
Trying to think of more titles that would p*** them off...
How about ****
No, too subtle.. how about
Erection in Peniston and Scunthorpe with Libshitz' Shitake Mushrooms
Which of course would be a show about construction and cooking.
It is fixable, with therapy, lots of time and loving support from understanding friends and lovers.
She may have to move and re-create her life somewhere else.
Sex=shame is one of the most fucked up things invented in order to control women and take their power away.
A sexually empowered woman is a power to behold and scares many men shitless.
It's clear why it's Indecent, how is the shell script going to grab variable # and then multiple it with bang? This is clearly a case of bad programming, I'm offended to.
Clearly this is really a case of yet another group getting mad at the fact someone had some fun with a title. Just give it a break, they can't prove what S#*! is going to mean, hell why doesn't the company just make it up, maybe it means sand. They being offended about that.
CBS is definitely trying to make a buck from shock. Kudos for calling them on it.
Would you rather they lose money by airing some bitch like you so holier than thou in your lame ass classroom?
I tell girls that boys will drag them as far down in the gutter as they will allow.
Did they get dragged down so far that they are cursed to spend the day at Burke-Williams, or take off to Hawaii, or drive around in a Mercedes, all on their husbands dime while he's off stressing at work making sure that the mortgage is paid only to die 7 years sooner on average?
Well since these guys over this "Parents Television Council" like to write letters and complain I think they should receive some calls and letters back.
Here is their contact info:
Mailing Address:
707 Wilshire Boulevard #2075
Los Angeles, CA 90017
Phone:
(213) 403-1300
(800) 882-6868 (Toll-Free)
Fax:
(213) 403-1301
Hmmm from TFA... To speak with a representative from the Parents Television Council, please contact Kelly Oliver (ext. 140) or Megan Franko (ext. 148) at (703) 683-5004.
Sex=shame is one of the most fucked up things invented in order to control women and take their power away.
I think it has more to do with the higher responsibility women have with sex. Men can't get pregnant.
A sexually empowered woman is a power to behold and scares many men shitless.
A very fat woman as well. And more so in fact.
Boys being more likely to make irrational choices doing adolescence (note spelling) is one thing. That's very different in saying that without the superior self control of girls that all boys will give in to their desires at any opportunity. You don't know what you're talking about. Boys with more willpower, or girls with less are not "genetic anomalies", they are well within the normal range of behavior that humans exhibit. I think YOU are the one who needs to read "a few research papers one(sic) the subject."
Their anti-free-speech stance is unamerican. When do we start deporting them?
She feels that since she likes sex, she should feel like a whore.
And "whore" is a bad thing in your vocabulary ?
Main question comes to mind....
Does she have a phone number??
I don't have a problem with the show's title but I do have a problem with the attempted association between the show's title and the sayings of Qbert. If I recall, Qbert merely let out a sequence of characters with no context (other than it was obvious that he was unhappy). It wasn't something like "@!#*$ snake!". Had they bleeped out the entire title I believe it would be comparable, but as it stands it is not.
Do you mean "promiscuous"? The truth is that some will look favorably on your friend and others will not. And since having such a history is not undoable, it is wise for her to understand both sides of reality. For example, by being "more free with her sex", she is definitely excluding *some* future men from her life. There are those who will not date nor marry someone with a promiscuous past. She should at least consider this. Maybe she already is, and hence the internal conflict.
SHUT YOUR $#*!ing Face Uncle $#*!er!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk1vAFOhL-4&feature=related
Change the fucking channel.
I am Bennett Haselton! I am Bennett Haselton!
Wow, that's the hottest thing I've ever read on slashdot. She wants it, but she thinks it's bad, but she wants it? That's the plot of half the porn flicks out there. That's the kind of issue you cultivate, not fix.
Fair enough - guess that was a bit of a misunderstanding. Sorry for lashing out.
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
And this destroys family values?
There are plenty of families that have values, even if some censoring family-institute doesn't see this. - Unless of course, you think a family has to look like the Waltons.
In 1985 I decided television itself was $#*! and I got rid of mine. For 25 years almost I have not watched television, will not even stay in the room if there is a television running. And I am the better for it. How wonderful to be free of the torrent of advertisements for useless $#*!, the stupid programs, the newscasters who spewed nothing but bull$#*!. Ten years ago, I got rid of that noisy box known as radio. Life is much more peaceful now. Yeah, I keep a windup radio around in case there is a disaster such as nuclear war where I might receive useful information from it. Glance at the headlines on the internet, that's about it. Will not watch videos on the internet either. It is not an occasional naughty word that is bad for children. It is Mass Media that is bad for both children and adults. Cut yourself off from Mass Media for a couple of months, or at least minimize your exposure, and you will see what I mean.
Belgium man!
I fail to see the fallacy in the GP's statement. Either he's right and there are 'real Christians' and (by extension) 'fake Christians' (like there are real Rolexes and fake Rolexes) or each group has a different definition of what constitutes a real Christian, in which case each group is correct based on their understanding of the definition of the word (like a Hummer driver might call a Caravan a 'fuel-efficient vehicle' but a Prius driver would not).
It amazes me how a post like this brings out streams of profanity and vindictive attitude. If anyone suggests some self-control or possibly a little civility, there is huge moral outrage as though the mere suggestion will somehow ruin everything. Most profanity/vulgarity has a negative implication. Things spoken in anger or to harm. It amazes me that so many people defend it as though it were some kind of virtue. How about a little self-control? Can you string together a sentence without inserting an irrelevant adjective? Do you people honestly believe that conversation would be unbearable sans-cursing? Personally I find it irritating that culture tends towards the mundane and vulgar. It is not mentally stimulating to listen to some idiot explain what he did over the weekend while using one rude word as an adjective, noun, and verb. Our language is dying, and people defend conversations that leave individuals wondering if they were really insulted or if it was just a joke. Everyone is devoid of consequences for their choice of words. Well guess what? You may feel you should be allowed to use every profane term, but you also have permission to exercise self-restraint, respect for others and the advanced vocabulary that sets you apart as an intelligent species. I've said my piece, now I'll leave you to continue with your IQ identifying invective.
So many people are mistaking $#*! for the word "fuck", when it really is intended to stand for "shit". Given that the latter word is generally viewed as being less offensive than the former, and the punctuation stand-in for the curse word is invoking an even "worse" word than what is intended.
Therefor, I think in order to prevent this from occurring, we should dump the $#*! and just say Shit, for the sake of the children who will think it's the wrong word.
That's right, "Shit" for the children!
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I don't think kids should be taught by someone who is THAT disconnected from reality...
You know, I want gender equality. Sexist men-hating zealots like you are one reason why we will never have that.
stop watching "sex and the city" and get a life, by which I mean GET SOME FRIENDS!
Not all men are sex-hungry perverted neanderthals and not all women are innocent little flower-pickers. But you have to know some ACTUAL people to understand that - not just the stereotypes in your TV shows...
The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
Tolkien referenced the 'two towers' long before 9/11, so he clearly knew about the plot. Any fool can plainly see that he was behind the whole thing.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
If you want to know just how the PTC takes 'freedom of speech' and twists it into something far from pure, here's a statistic for one year.
99.8%.
The one organization was responsible for 99.8% of all complaints received by the FCC. If you're ever interested in how that looks like as a pie chart, click on this link.
Gives a whole new meaning to the old phrase "we've received hundreds of complaints from one or two people..."
Shiny. Let's be bad guys...
My experience hints me to the possibility that cellurl believes that she is doing and saying the right thing. Because that's what was done to her, and she never questioned that belief. So now, it's "truth," along with many other implanted beliefs.
Exactly, but just because cellurl believes she is doing the right thing doesn't mean that she is. Hitler likely believed that he was doing the right thing, too.
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At least they didn't say Meekrob!
You call them bullies because you don't agree with them, but other people do agree with them. You say they are wrong, they say you are wrong. Who can be the ultimate judge of what is right and what is wrong?
I call bullshit. We aren't speaking about their social views vs. mine, so don't give me that whishy-washy 'opinions are relative' crap. This is about respecting other people's rights to express themselves.
I call them bullies because they try to control what others do, NOT because I disagree with the views that they support.
They are violating the constitutionally protected freedom of speech, and that is wrong.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
So Im a parent. I have 3 kids. I don't let my 12yo son watch Southpark or Family guy. I don't need a PTC orginization to make those decisions. Maybe if they stopped going to the stupid meetings and payed attention to what their kids were watching they wouldn't have so many issues.
--- Always remember. 99.36% of all statistics are inaccurate.
So, does "Shatner" then mean, "one who shats? Or "one who shattens"?
Ba dum, ...
Cheers,
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
If CBS is smart about it, they won't even acknowledge it. All a response will do is provide the PTC momentum in the media. FOX never (or rarely) did acknowledge them, and they've taken the top spot from the historic big three U.S. networks. Most people don't care that family-friendly American Idol is on the same network as Family Guy, so I doubt this will harm CBS one bit.
Charisma is the measure of someone's ability to lie with a straight face.
Why do these people hate America so much? Freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, freedom of movement, freedom of choice. Didn't they get the clue that FREEDOM is what America is based on?
Fuck your children. Today belongs to me.
Furries make the internet go.
FCC rules actually view substitute words as the same as if you said the real word. By the regs if you can figure out what they meant its obscene. So BSG can't legally say Frak on the air. Of course with the FCC nothing exists till someone files a complaint. You could air "one guy one cup" if no one complained. Of course they might notice when 50% of the population throws away their TV the next day.
All my scripts are safe, you insensitive $#*!
The perl thing is getting out of hand. The PTC is now campaiging for CPAN to be blocked at ISPs.
CPAN is the most smut ridden site I've ever seen. It is disgusting that this filth is freely available on the web.
What, girls can never be devious or sexually adventurous without the prodding of a boy? Are you living in 1955?
No, but the prodding certainly helps.
Kwisatz Haderach
Sell the spice to CHOAM
This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
I completely agree that turning anything into a no-no tends to make it into a big deal, however I agree with your grandfather as well. He does/did have a very good basis for his position.
Matthew 15:18 "But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person."
"I'm far more concerned with..." and "It's only music..." and "What's the harm in watching..." are all phrases that I have recently been covering in my Sunday school and discipleship studies recently. As Christ followers, the things you list, nudity, violence, mindless "culture", should concern us greatly, but so should the lesser things as well.
Matthew 5:19 "Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
Philippians 4:8 "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things."
I am certain my geek card will be revoked for quoting scripture on /. Oh well. It's worth loosing if so.
Anyways, back to my tangent - shit was actually an acronym for Store High In Transport. S.H.I.T, words will always change, from the proper to the colloquial.
No, sorry it wasn't
http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/shit.asp
Celebrity worship is a poor substitute for Deity worship and costs more to boot.
Ignore it.
Stupid nannys.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Which is why we need to do away with bleeps entirely. Leaving it up to the viewer to interpret what the bleeped word could be is far more dangerous. For instance, when you saw my subject, how did you read it? I forget where I heard it, but that was used as an example of why some words are bleeped while others aren't. But as we can clearly see from the other postings here, the current list of bleeped words is still too large, if the title of this show is being interpreted as worse than it really is.
"I'm not sure I like the fugnutish tone you used in your post!" -RogL (608926)-
Back in 2004, Ars Technica reported that the PTC was responsible for 99% of the complaints that the FCC receives and was seeking to get auto-generated complaints (aka spam complaints) accepted as valid by the FCC. (Source: http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2004/12/4442.ars )
I don't know if they're still generating most of them, but whenever someone is complaining about indecency on TV, it seems to be the PTC. In my mind, they're just a bunch of stuck up whiners. (Though they do seem to be for ala carte cable* so they're not all bad.)
* Granted this is so they could ditch channels that show "dirty" programs like Friends or *gasp* Family Guy and only have channels that show clean programs like Everyone Loves Raymond.
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
That's a dangerous attitude. The problem with those groups is that they have no interest in anything else, they have a limited mind.
If someone has a healthy mind, he will have interest in many things, not an obsession with one single issue. There's a difference between caring about something and suffering from a monomania.
She feels that since she likes sex, she should feel like a whore.
Well pull her hair and call her a filthy whore. I know it may go against all apparent logic, but some women like that.
You can't take the sky from me...
Waitwhat? "I find cursing unacceptable so I'll use physical violence to counter it"?
You need a reality check.
What the fucking kind of Slashdot post is this.
I have a very close female friend who's out of sorts because she's always been told that her being sexually adventurous is bad, and that she shouldn't like sex. It tears her up inside, and she feels that she needs to hide that side of her from her friends and family. She feels that since she likes sex, she should feel like a whore.
It's assholes like you that did that to her. She's broken inside, and hell if I know if it's fixable.
Fuck society.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... you can be as sexually adventurous as you want be, but if you're doing it with someone different every night, the reputation is probably well deserved (and will spread on its own btw). If you're sexually adventurous with your parter or a small group of partners then usually you're not seen that way. Lesson: people need to keep their business private instead of having everyone else air their dirty laundry.
As far as the PTC goes -- they have nothing better to do. They don't change anything, it's just free advertising for CBS at this point. Just like all of the complaining about WWE/WCW/TNA. Look how far that went. Wrestling is still on as many times a week as ever.
a offensive word can only have power if theirs some cry baby out there willing to take it as offensive. the word nigger is a great example it was misused and turned into a race offensive word wile in realty it only meant ignorant person,. wile the word over the last few years has been losing its power to offend people its still there. i mean this if you called a black guy a nigger 20 years ago you better have your grave ready. if you did it now he probably would look at your like you lost your mind or just ignore you. or like my buddy blaze does laugh at you. if tv shows all started using fuck and not cencering it after all the cry babys finished with there fits guess what happens to the power of using the word fuck it loses its power alot. as i said a word can only be offensiv couse some nutbag thinks it is. as people have said theirs shows on most networks that show mangled body's in all kinds of crazy ways man you rember that csi ep with the wood chipper and they showed it. but if they sware they go to far.
Violence is awesome and heroic. The human body is obscene. Welcome to America.
Then, when the parents complained, change it to $%! or whatever.
Why do you automatically assume that "having lots of sex" implies "having lots of UNSAFE sex"?
Seems like that wasn't part of the discussion until you threw it in there.
I'm really surprised to read of so many people who embrace swearing like this, and encourage it.
We are not setting the right example for our children. A few years ago 'bitch' became acceptable on TV and every show, including the most light-hearted comedies, sling around that word heavily.
Where does it end? Rap music made the N word acceptable to say in public across multiple ethnicities. Violence against women has made 'whore' and 'bitch' substitutes for 'woman'.
The kneejerk response is to say some moral group is having a fit over something minor. It's a slippery slope. How low do we go until it stops?
Consider this: the most ignorant and uneducated of us are the ones that use the most profanity and hate speech. Should we make their level of discourse the norm for this entire nation?
I hope Penn and Teller take on this one.
Responsibility is an addiction
Virtue is a temptation
Community is a cartel
How does HPV become epidemic if everyone is having safe sex?
It isn't an implication, or assumption, it is a given. Anecdotes aren't facts. And it should be part of EVERY discussion about promiscuity, regardless of the fairytale you believe called "safe sex".
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
The Stranger: Do you have to use so many cuss words?
The Dude: What the fuck you talking about?
This is excerpt of spam message I got and this is one of the methods spammers are trying to pass the spam filter. I think what they are saying is "Ordering mega doze online to prevent flaccid male member..."
Personally, I think the Victorians were a bunch of overly-repressed fuckers whose hypocrisy is almost unmatched in the history of the world, and I'd hate to see us revert back to it.
It was an interesting times from a fetishists point of view though. I'm not sure if they even realised what they were actually doing with all that corseting and discipline :)
Substitute the Title of the show with ObamaCare and the FCC with Congress, Parent Group with the left wingers supporting Universal Health care, and see how many people change their mind about "small minority" speaking for everyone else.
The funny thing is, I'm on the side that makes the most sense, namely that if CBS wants to put funny symbols in a show thinking it will last and be profitable, by all means let them, and keep the government out of my life. And screw ObamaCare, I'm declaring myself to be Amish (exempted from ObamaCare).
I'm sick to death of people telling me what I can or can't do, especially when it doesn't affect them one bit what I do or don't do.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Your high user ID# gives you away motherfucker: you are no angel.
Your basic biology is from the 1950s. These days we know better . . . the female sex drive is just as varied as the male sex drive. Biologically the female organism is set up so that having multiple male sexual partners will result in the most genetically favorable offspring, this is as true for human females as for other species. The drive you seem to be confusing the sex drive with is seeking security . . . finding a male to raise the kids is perhaps a different process than finding one to father them. Also, most of the people I know (male and female) don't view sex as something degrading.
Says the anonymous coward. oooooh.
^0^
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
None of this refers to works only the intent behind the words. So using "shit" as an equivalent of "stuff" most definitely does not infringe upon your quotes.
Don't forget that those words were written by men. even bible scholars generally agree that something like 80% is the word of man 17% is the paraphrased words of deities and less than 3-5% is word for word. Then again english or moden languages weren't spoken back then so what we've got is religious interpretations of what the intent is beind the originals.
I tend to think of it this way. Words only have the power that people to them otherwise they're just a string of random characters. If words like shit and fuck entered common use (and they've been trending towards that) they lose theire power and even their definition.
If someone wanted to give me a million dollars, I would care a lot. If they did so by taking ten cents from every taxpayer and wasting most of the proceeds, you probably wouldn't care enough to write a letter to complain. Yet such proposals aren't "basic social wisdom", they're a reduction in total utility. They're also one of the practical defects with unlimited democracy.
Our own democracy was originally designed to have limited and decentralized powers to mitigate the consequences of such defects. The fact that we now have to debate over the definition of "decent" at the national level is part of the problem.
I think you mean you read English literature *from* the last 400 years, rather than having read *for* the last 400 years. The latter would make you rather old. While a fair number of people like reading literature from 400 years or more ago and there's some good stuff out there. Bloke called Shakespeare for example. Push it back a couple of hundred years more and Chaucer's a good read. Some fine bits in "The Wife of Bath" for starters. Tends to be read under compulsion by most 17 year olds studying English Lit. in UK schools.
Me, I just go down the British Library on the occasional days off. Can't afford the books myself but you can flip through some right nice old books with just a loaned pair of white gloves.
it is just CBS' latest demonstration of its contempt for families and the public
As a parent that believes in not being excessively protective of children (because over protection does more damage once they hit the real world), and believes that parents are responsible for both teaching and enforcing socially acceptable language use by their own children, I have two choice words for the Parents Television Council:
FUCK YOU!
If you don't want your kids getting near bleeps, let alone profanity which is commonly heard just about anywhere but Church, then I suggest you remove your TV set from the house, along with anything else that gets your panties in knots. The right to not being offended by someone is not a constitutional right, and like it or not, your kids will be exposed to it eventually. Actually, they probably already are exposed to this if they are any older than 7, and think you are a douche bag (and likely a hypocrite too) for being so anal about profanity on TV, or anywhere else for that matter. Either way, I feel sorry for your kids.
Frankly, I'd much prefer my kids hearing this stuff and just learning to play it cool, instead of getting all hyped up with "He just said the F word!!" And when they use the word, they will get a healthy slap up the side of the head. (That's politically incorrect? Well guess what, I'm in the school of thought that non-damaging physical punishment is a necessity, in chosen situations, for children that need to learn a lesson. It's both natural, effective, and doesn't leave any wounds or injuries (I said SLAP, not PUNCH) provided they still know Dad loves them.)
All that aside though, this is just down right stupidity. $#*! is not a profanity, it is just suggestive of a profanity. Much in the same way like gosh-darned. (Which is another expression that gets on my nerves... just say "goddamn". If you feel that it is inappropriate to say that, then use an appropriate word, not a suggestive watered down version of the same thing.) And anyone that finds $#*! in the title of a TV show increasing interest in said show, has the maturity level a few notches lower than my 14 year old son. CBS and the Parents Television Council are playing Dumb & Dumber.
eventually the relationship will become non-platonic and if allowed will degrade to sex.
I'd consider that an upgrade actually. "Degrade to sex..." You do realize that sex is part of of a quality romantic relationship, do you?
If they did so by taking ten cents from every taxpayer and wasting most of the proceeds, you probably wouldn't care enough to write a letter to complain. Yet such proposals aren't "basic social wisdom", they're a reduction in total utility. They're also one of the practical defects with unlimited democracy.
And indeed, this happens all the time. In fact, you might say the majority of the political debates in the country center over since its inception have centered around scenarios similar to what you just proposed. As they say, democracy is the worst political system except all the others that have been tried. It's going to be hard to come up with something significantly better.
Qxe4
'There are an infinite number of alternatives that CBS could have chosen but its desire to shock and offend is crystal clear in this decision.'
The entertainment industry trying to shock and offend in order to boost ratings? That's never happened before! Outrageous!
"I don't care about the Constitution!" --Bill O'Reilly, November 17, 2009
As long as kill has a value other than zero, the loop will run forever because the expression value of (bad=kill) is the value of kill.
The original code is indeterminate. The correction is incorrect for saying "never", as most possible definitions of "kill" would be non-zero unless bad was extremely negative and kill were more positive than bad.
If you are going to be pedantic, be definitively pedantic.
(Presuming "C" of course.)
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
dude, as long as kill is not zero, the loop will run forever because the second assignment would be true.
Innocent people shouldn't be forced to pay for inferior software development.
--"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
Wow, 0 to Hitler in 30 seconds!
And, I agree with your point for ignorance not being an excuse.
The KKK feels awfully strongly about limiting the rights of non-whites. On the other hand, I (and, I suspect, millions of other Americans) am a strong believer in equal rights, but I'm not nearly as emphatic about it -- I wouldn't engage in the sorts of terrorism the KKK has been known to in years past. "Basic social wisdom" is then to compromise in the favor of the KKK?
Democracy should not mean giving the reins to those with the loudest voice. But that certainly would explain the dismal state of gay rights in this country.
Mutterverdammt Arschloch gehen zu bumsender
Baisez-vous
Baiseur de mere
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excuse my german and french but thats my friendly reply to you "indecentcy" "$#!" is indecent just translate that listed above and compare that to my friendly response to them.
You've hit on the dark side of living in society. Remember that at one time, this country, a democracy, did favor the sorts of things the KKK favors. Eventually the north showed it was something they cared enough about to kill and die over. Right now, perhaps the KKK is more vocal, but the silent majority matters more. If eventually the silent majority switches and favors slavery again, then we will switch back to slavery. That's how democracy works, and society in general.
Democracy doesn't give people the best government, it gives people the government they deserve. If the people are idiots, the government will be idiotic.
Qxe4
The Fucking Shit my Dad says. or The Poop my dad says.
And no, HPV is not fixable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV
"The American Social Health Association reported estimates that about 75-80% of sexually active Americans will be infected with HPV at some point in their lifetime."
"Most HPV infections in young females are temporary and have little long-term significance. 70% of infections are gone in 1 year and 90% in 2 years."
Just as an aside: Condoms don't necessarily prevent exposure to HPV. They reduce the chances, but obviously not all that much (as you said, HPV is a raging epidemic, with something like 90% of sexually active women getting some strain or other eventually). It can be transferred by contact with a lot of surface area that condoms don't cover at all (like the scrotum), and as such doesn't even require actual intercourse to transmit from person to person.
I think that the Supreme Court may have something to say about that.
... a F#CK is out of the question?
Bitter and proud of it.
The Parents Television Council can go fuck themselves.
Exactly how sure are you about that?
I know there were a couple of girls I knew who were, shall we say, devious and sexually adventurous and I’m pretty sure (positively sure in one case, wondering about the other) their dads (and/or other male relatives and/or men their dads invited) were involved.
For all you idiots going for the "funny" tag here, this is NOT a joke. This coven of fundamentalist idiots has a HUGE amount of clout with the FTC. More than they deserve. So while you all sit here making jokes and trying to get tagged "Funny", or invoking the frankly idiotic "Flying Spaghetti Monster" trying to be smarter than the lowly, deluded Xtians, THESE people are influencing policy and dictating what you see and hear.
Real fucking funny. Why not try opposing them for once?
How about some basic biology. Males are wired for sex and females are wired to be selective about sex. Its not opinion, it is biology.
Um it's an oversimplified version of biology born of fear. Male-as-sexual-aggressor, female-as-selective is a stereotype that isn't born out in nature. There are plenty of selective males. There are plenty of sexually promiscuous females. Both sexes are capable of a wide gamut of behaviour when it comes to sex and aggression.
I'd mod you down but you're already at -1. Just because you worry you can't control your urges, doesn't mean others can't. And i tend to agree that you're probably going to leave any girl you teach a distrust of a particular gender or that sex is bad emmotionally broken.
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No they are not correct. Is it okay make them aware that some guys will lie and do what it takes to get them into bed? Sure. Is it okay to teach them that guys only want one thing, and it's in their pants? No, it is not. That's how you create a girl with problems with self confidence, and trust issues. .
Shush, how is the rest of the world supposed to get strippers if you keep trying to educate people like this?
Oh squash you, you squashing squasher.
I teach Sunday school...
Wow - set yourself up on your own little pedestal, why don't you?
You know what I tell kids, now that I'm a big boy? I tell them to watch out for "churchies", cause they'll drag your morale, and spirit, and intelligence as far down in the gutter as you let them. They'll make you feel bad about yourself and your natural feelings. They'll turn you against other people. They'll try and convince you that being a pious asshole is a good (TM) thing. Some of the priests will even fuck you up the arse or make you suck their dicks.
You, my good friend, should keep your evil mouth shut more often. Here's some material for your next "Sunday school lesson" - I was a "wholesome" young Christian lad of 15, when I was babysitting for the neighbours' two girls, aged 8 and 10, who TERRORISED me with naked dancing, sexual advances and sly, coy manipulation to see if I would show them my dick, like they obviously managed to do with some previous babysitters. I tell you now - those girls RUINED MY LIFE !!!! Well, the first part was true, they did tease me, but somehow I managed to live through it all.
I think you might want a new slash-ID - you kind of burnt this one badly, judging by the stream of invective you have unleashed - how ironic that you, upright citizen, should be the direct cause for so many fuckers spouting so much retaliatory shit and enfouling our otherwise pristine minds ...
For the good of intelligence throughout the universe, kill yourself.
Want me to fix her up....
By this logic Qbert was the filthiest game ever made.
Not at all, young human; games like Rogue and Angband consist almost entirely of characters like @, #, *, ...; thus they are made entirely of filth.
They used the "actual name" of the Twitter feed and book, so the PTC apparently doesn't feel like even knowing the name of what they are planning to "wage an unrelenting campaign" about. I think that this kind of ignorance is indecent.
#!/usr/bin/perl
The mother of all swears...
--- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
Nothing disturbing, just plain old male masturbation. But since it is such a common act it might catch on easily.
FRA: STFU GTFO
I have a very close female friend who's out of sorts because she's always been told that her being sexually adventurous is bad, and that she shouldn't like sex. It tears her up inside, and she feels that she needs to hide that side of her from her friends and family. She feels that since she likes sex, she should feel like a whore.
It's assholes like you that did that to her. She's broken inside, and hell if I know if it's fixable.
Fuck society.
Give her my number, I'll give her some therapy.
"If anyone needs me, I'm in the angry dome."
US series, e.g. the continous swearing of the OCC guys, is translated into actual words in the german voice over. So you hear the bleeps in the background and nice cool words in german. Funny.
I'd tap that.
What a nice "scientific" explanation that oh so conveniently fits conservative views of women; or feminist views. It's funny how they end up being so similar.
You are putting women into the chaste housewife role with your "biological" explanation. Fortunately that's really not how it is in real life. It was maybe 50 years ago when women were forced by society to act that way.
Maybe you should meet real women these days and not just read about them/project unto others?
You know, you're an asshole.
Rarely are there posts on Slashdot with which I so wholeheartedly agree.
People like cellurl are the reason old-fashioned conservative christian ideals get cemented into the minds of today's youth: boys cannot become anything else than vile sexual predators and those poor girls have to be warned/protected so they can become virginal, good little housewif...women.
I personally think you were right to lash out. The GP was spouting hateful anti-male crap which will influence the young developing minds s/he's teaching to think that men can never be good and civil, and all girls are angels who only fall if men cause them to.
It's telling the boys that they can't escape the baseness of their gender, and it's telling girls to never trust a boy (but always blame them!) It's a skewed view of life, it's fucking up children, and it's exactly what the catholic church did to me (I'm not bitter at all).
Sure, biology plays a part, and men tend to be more casual about sex and girls more picky (some will disagree). But ... what the GP said is just a completely fucked up view of it all.
Vulgar words will always exist and they have their role and place. Sometimes their role is to insult someone, sometimes to confirm that you are in a relaxed familiar environment with guys that you thrust, sometimes to make a statement more bold and attract attention.
But everything at the right time and place. You won't go running to random people on the street and yell vulgar words at them unless you are looking for trouble. Tell the same word to your best friends while drinking and it may be funny. You will choose to not use some words while speaking to your mother or grandmother out of respect for them, etc, you get the point.
Like the rest of the language, vulgar words evolve. That means what yesterday was a curse word today may be ok or vice versa, and new words (containing letter, numbers or special characters) are rising to wear the brave title of vulgar terms. In the end what matters is the intent of the person using it and how the environment interprets it.
For example, if I start using 'HTRT23' as a vulgar term for a someone that is so desperate for publicity that will do anything, even degrading - and the new term catches on and a very large amount of people in the world starts using it, 'HTRT23' it is a vulgar term. Same story with "$#*!".
Like everything else in life, television needs some language restrictions as well, because of the very large and uncontrolled audience. And the same old story will repeat ad nauseam: someone always tries to probe the limits, like kids, exploring boundaries. CBS had bad intent and you know it.
I don't work for any censorship organization and I'm not looking to apologize for them. For the matter of fact, I’m quite a potty mouth myself. I'm just stating the common sense - and I think you know it already. But it's not as flaming or as funny as other posts, of course, so feel free to mod me the fuck down.
We in Europe can only shake our heads and turn our eyes skywards when we see and hear of the US-American bigotery. On the one side there is every blank piece of human flesh "hurting and endangering society" on the other side an terror organisation like the NRA is praised for their support of fireweapons in childrens hand ?-(
CU
"Let your yeah be yeah and your no be no"
http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/hardertheycome/letyouryeahbeyeah.htm
...If only there was this way to, you know, make sure that the content blasted onto a TV that I dislike isn't displayed on the screen or pumped through the speakers... A switch or knob, perhaps.... Hmmm,
Wow, you teach Sunday School? What church is that? I hope the supervisors of the classes don't approve of your message. I'm not really sure how Biblical a teaching that is either.
Mumble mumble mum....
I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt, as much as he explained that he was just describing the position of society at large. Apart from that, I completely agree with your position - that crap is worth lashing out against. I just was in an exceptionally benevolent mood, trying not to hit the messenger by accident... ;)
Ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant.
Its not opinion, it is biology.
I think this is where most of the issues stem - that some people think biology shapes us more than sociology, and others think vice versa.
I know a lot of people who could have gone to be honour students but instead dropped out to do drugs, and I don't think it was their biology that had any effect on the matter but rather their upbringing by the people they hung out with or problems with their parenting.
Likewise I know a few people graduating with Engineering Degrees next year (hopefully) that came from the worst neighbourhoods in our city, one of which has a single mother who is a gambling addict, and his brother is a lazy slackoff.
Problem is that you can't guage what a person's DNA is like by their family. I can't say that my engineering friend has "faulty" DNA in him because the rest of his family has serious issues, as they are also shaped by sociology and their experiences.
So it begs the question, exactly HOW MUCH is it hard-wired in a male to be crazy for sex, and how much is it wired in females to be selective? We've already mentioned that their are slutty girls and man-whores, and their are also abstinant of both sexes, so it obviously doesn't govern their lives. It would seem that Society shapes them more. The only reason why men would be more promiscuous is not only just because they are wired for it, but because we glorify men who can get any woman they want. When they pull off more than one chick at a time its considered a great feat, but when women do it, they are considered lowly.
We've reached a point in biology where our Genes don't govern us as much as they used to. Got a chemical inbalance? Take a drug. Alergic to dander? There's a drug for that too. Zoloft, Prozac, Ritalin, there's something for just about every kind of condition. Some birth control pills really kill the lobido for women (which seems ironic to me, heh). Some men lose their Lobido on steroids. Certain drugs can bring it back. Heck, we've got drugs to help with erectile dysfunction, something that naturally occurs with extremely old age.
We've evolved much further past biology governing our lives. We may be "Hard-Wired" like any other mammal out there, but we've already worked past that in our mastery of biology and how society plays a role in shaping your personality.
So when someone says that Men are more prone to one activity or another because of their biology, it irks me because that is such a narrow view of a much larger picture.
He shouldn't be allowed to have children, he clearly isn't an adult himself.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
better $#!^ to do.
A show called "Dollar Pound: Star Bang" does sound pretty vulgar. I imagine it's like "Dancing with the Stars" only instead of dancing with B-list and washed up celebrities for money, you're doing something even better with them for money ;)
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
Pity the fool!
Ignore the post; it reminds me of the troll groups that would hijack usenet threads.
They're extremely indecent themselves! Not to mention outright violent. I mean - look at that name.
The Parents Television Council
That's just an anagram to cover up their actual name
Cunts Shiv A Lipton Electioneer
The bastard!
They just wanted attention, like the trolls they are... And you all fell for it...
Oh, wait... so did I...
Why is the human race still so barbaric. Fart jokes and swearing to nudity. See barbarians and little kids are the ones that care about those, everyone else accepts a fart as natural, does not get offended by a random work (a set of random letters determined by random people to mean indicate some random thought).
Living in Utah is a laugh. People say shoot or crap instead of shit, but if cussing is so bad, then the idea is bad not the word, so saying crap in it's place is just as bad because it is the same though.
Vulgarity is not in the word but in the person using the word and intent behind it, and most importantly by the person who thinks it vulgar.
I ask you is it worse to say fuck you in anger, or I am going to kill you in anger? One is a statement of an idea about killing someone, the other (considered vulgar) is just angry words.
So I wish the human race would grow up get rid of silly ideas like swearing to be bad, and stop thinking the human (natural body) is anything more than it is.
It is like prejudice, until we stop tracking race there will always be a seperation, same idea, as long as we give a specific word more meaning that it has, we will always have vulgarity.
kfuc is the worst of all the words.
I am offended by some people faces. Should I cut their head off, in order not to be offended?
George Carlin must be rolling in his grave at close to the speed of light. Will the pussyfication of America never end? political correctness is going to destroy the world!
"When in doubt, use brute force." Ken Thompson