So would your solution have a centrally controlled economy, where threats like this are met by government-sponsored counterstrikes directed at whatever the terrorists hold dear?
Yep, like nuking Mecca.
By that logic, maybe we should have the US go overseas and forcibly occupy some prominent Arab nation, in the name of a "War on Terror". Yeah, that's the ticket...
No- you're thinking late 20th century tactics, rather than 6th century tactics and 21st century armaments. Military occupation is not sufficient to be called terrorism- especially the weak-willed hand-out-candy-to-kiddies occupations that Americans have been doing since the 1940s. No, I'm talking more a "kill 500 of their relatives for every one of ours that dies by a suicide bomber" type terrorism. Or better yet "Kill every male child, take everybody else ans sell them as slaves, tear down their holy city so that no stone sits on top of another, and sow the fields with salt". Worked to end the Zionist Terrorism of 70 A.D. It took until 1948 before Jews once again gained a significant presence in Jerusalem.
Clearly in this case, terrorism has been effective.
Terrorism is effective- and market-based economics IS HIGHLY COWARDLY. The proper response to terrorism isn't self-censorship- it's more and bigger terrorism. You find out what the terrorists care about and you take that away as spectacularly and explosively as possible. Then it's up to them to decide whether they want more terrorism or to take the cowardly stance.
Radio Shack will start hiring people with some real education for their salespeople- this would be a vast improvement for geeks everywhere who currently need a Radio Shack Part Number or a physical description to get the part they need, where you'd think just the name of the part should be enough. How damn hard is it to figure out what a.2 picofarad capacitor is?!?!?!?
Or do you want to be a manager? MDA tools are great for managers who want to get code done quickly, with no art, exactly to specs. These people are the type who played Nintendo growing up instead of getting their parents to buy a real computer- people who care about end results more than the process of getting to those end results. MDA is just the latest version of RAD- and while RAD has it's place, you sacrifice something for getting the program done fast in terms of useability and resource utilization, as well as just plain art of coding. But if your ends justify your means, and profit/cost is the overriding factor in all that you do, well, memory, hard drives, and microprocessors are cheap in comparison to good code.
With a Master's in COMPUTER SCIENCE? No, they want MBAs for those positions, people who know how to destroy projects. For an MSc if he graduated from an American school and is white, his new phrase should be "You want fries with that"?
I can't believe that they've missed the one native inhabitant of Australia that if they would just breed them in captivity then release them, your cane toad problem would be gone: Common Keelback Snakes. But it seems they are currently quite rare- and it seems to me somebody in Hawaii may have a better answer to the question, what eats cane toads?
Get rid of the subsidies (they waste tax dollars), but leave each their own labour laws and currency.
Why? After all, aren't labour laws and currency exchanges a form of subsidy that allows citizens to be mistreated for the profit of the government?
If you don't like Chinese goods (and you don't), you don't have to buy them.
I didn't used to have no choice in the matter- but then several companies started making goods only in China. It's to the point that if you want clothes, you need to buy Chinese because their textile subsidies have created an unjust advantage- so that even American labeled clothes use Chinese textiles. Same with just about any other product you can imagine- buy a Ford Escort, and half the parts come from China. Look at the labels inside your Dell (supposedly American Made) computer, and half the parts come from China. You don't have a choice as a consumer to avoid China anymore- they are the manufacturing center of the world, and YOU WILL BUY CHINESE.
Problem solved.
Not by a long shot- and if you think it is, well, I hope you enjoy that job flipping burgers at McDonalds until a Chinese built robot takes your place like it did for your fry cook.
Fine. I agree with not wasting tax dollars subsidizing any industries or business. The government should not be making loans anyway. Let private individuals make loans if they want to.
Do you include this as being worldwide? Do you include China in that, to bring this back on topic? Since after all, if China had EXACTLY THE SAME LABOR LAWS AS THE UNITED STATES and NO SUBSIDIES and EXACTLY THE SAME CURRENCY, then jobs would not be going there.
What was missing from that documentary for me was this: What eats Cane Toads in Hawaii, a much smaller island that hasn't been overrun? And why don't we introduce THAT animal to Australia?
If we truly let them be- don't interfere in their markets with our subsidized exports, don't loan them money, etc- then we are thinking LOCALLY.
That might be relevant, except you have yet to ever talk of someone hurting someone else, or even doing anything wrong or immoral. Except you did make it somewhat clear that a company stole your coat. That's not a lot to show so far.
Ah, so you are THAT AC coward. Well, a good example is third world farmer's suicide rates, which are directly attributable to our agricultural subsidies. But beyond that- PROFIT IS HARM. If you're earning a profit, you're either overcharging your customers or you are underpaying your workers (in other words, your cost of manufacture is NOT equal to your sales price).
Thinking globally is the cause of competition and excellence, which minimizes corruption. A company that is crap-tacular at building things and has a captive audience (think Ford before Japan stepped up to the plate to provide us the good cars we needed) can be corrupt and avoid paying the piper for it. Allowing people freedom to make the best, informed choices also increases jobs: during the era of greatly increading free trade, the number of middle-class Americans has grown by hundreds of thousands of people.
Ford before the Japs was one of the most moral companies I know of- they produced a good product and made sure their workers were paid enough to actually buy the product they were manufacturing. That is EXACTLY the sort of corporation I want in this country. The number of middle class people in the United States has been shrinking since 1960, BTW.
Actually....getting rid of unneeded artificial barriers this greatly reduces such divisions.
Human beings will form such divisions anyway- it's hardwired in our genes to consider our own above people we don't know. Thus it's worthless to work against nature in that way.
You advocate theft and violence to combat personal, moral, nonviolent decisions decisions.
If you're stealing from your neighbors, you are not making moral decisions.
Nah. We need hyper-fast super sail boats. Trade barriers and hindrances need to be eliminated.
They don't exist- and trade barriers and hinderances are actually a part of being human.
Even if this is true, it would be 8 million worthless overpaid unneeded jobs that someone else would be a lot better at, and is only prevented from doing so by unnecessary barriers.
Then why do your chinese imports fall apart so quickly?
Trade barriers are fine, only as long as they are part of your personal choice.
If you choose to be a part of a nation, then you have made the personal choice for trade barriers- otherwise you're a traitor and don't need to be a part of the nation.
Again, can you name ONE terrorist that came over this way?
Jose Padula- who murdered a federal parks agent in cold blood in August 2002.
1) Wal-Mart adverts before and after the illegal alien sting showed no price change.
They didn't- and you can check that out yourself if you weren't a coward.
2) the company-owned desk where you once worked was really your personal property.
$250 out of my first check stub shows that one.
It certainly is. Backtracking from your math, you have each inspector inspecting just ONE single container each day. In reality, it is a very quick matter to find out if there are human beings in a container, so one inspector could inspect dozens a day. That brings it up pretty close to 100% inspection. Hire just a few more inspectors, and it is all covered. And then some.
Spoken like somebody who has never even seen a cargo container. Hint- a human being is about.75 cubic meters. A cargo container is 360 cubic meters. You can't search one without unloading and reloading it by hand.
It is one planet, a small one indeed. Remove the "local" factor which you use to mean one entire small area. Then you get every $1 spent on planet earth goods generating $8 of economic movement. That's a great deal! (Think globally, act globally).
Not until the US government marches on, and removes, all other governments in the world. And even then you have the anonymity problem- the fact that human beings are not wired feel guilty about hurting people they don't know personally, and thus feel just fine about cheating customers and workers that they will never meet. Thinking Globally is the cause of business corruption.
I support this choice too. As always, consistently, I support maximum choice. Thus, you get to make your choice. This includes "local choice". Your neighbor gets to make his/her choice, even if it is very different from yours.
At which point you've just put anonymity into the mix- separating human beings instead of joining them together into tribes and clans, encouraging corruption and immoral behavior and destroying your neighbor's standard of living. Personally, I believe the punishment for that level of choice should be that your neighbor can take a gun and steal what he needs from you.
Replace them with sail boats, or run them on burger king grease. One "excuse" gone.
At which point you slow goods down to the point that you've raised exactly the type of trade barrier I'm for. On slower, non-fossil-fueled boats, food rots, thus opening a market for local goods. I say if you simply charged shipping companies with a single cent-per-mile tax, you'd erect enough of a barrier to create eight million jobs in the United States.
Maybe, but can you name one terrorist who came over that way?
MS-13 is a drug cartel and human smuggling operation who will smuggle ANYBODY into the country in this way for either $2000 payment or 1.5 lbs of meth traveling with the person.
It's easily solved by inspecting the containers, anyway.
1.2 million containers cross our borders each day, we have 20,000 inspectors. You do the math- it's not humanly possible to inspect more than 2% of the containers.
Another excuse gone.
Except once again your suggestion bears NO resemblence to reality.
I know, I know. They cannot be trusted because you do not control them..... I am sorry, I can't get rid of this "Excuse", just like I can't easily get rid of an excuse that really means "there is someone there, and they might do something I do not like". Well.... maybe I can get rid of this one. We will get rid of ALL of the crews of those hated sailors. All ships will now be "controlled by wire", all leading back to instances of ShipMate (tm) running on YOUR computer (little ship's wheel icons, slider icons controlling the rudder, buttons controlling robot arms that tie ropes, etc). This way, you can handle all of the functions of the crew. The last excuse gone.
Nope- that is even MORE dangerous- it means that you've now got a robotic ship loaded in a foreign port by governments that are enemies of this country that have nuclear capability. China wants to destroy Seattle? It's now become damned easy.
Do you plan on lining up sailors against the wall before or after you nuke India? I know why you hate people from India: because some of them are better workers. But why do you hate sailors? Is it from childhood nightmares caused by Popeye cartoons?
I cannot trust enemies of the United States- and recent events have proven to me that the United States has no friends anywhere. The WTO that we created has become the end of our democracy- we are now an occupied territory facing sure destruction from every country not our own- and we can no longer ignore the threat. We can't afford cowards and peaceniks anymore.
I support your freedom to make these personal decisions (such as trade decisions). I do not support your idea of forcing your personal choices on others. Some rights are way to important to have others/governments take away.
Then be prepared to FIGHT for those rights- because you're going to have to kill me to stop me.
I doubt this would have an effect- but have they considered the fact that global warming may well eliminate the Gulf Stream entirely in the next 10 years? Without that bunch of ice in the north, the convection current propelling the gulf stream's counter-clockwise motion simply won't happen.
Depends on the definition of "Harm". You appear to advocate walls and barriers which force people to waste money on overpriced, inferior goods. You would take away the advantage to the people AND the economy of being able to choose the best. Looks like harm to me!
The Local mutiplier wipes out the value of best- for every $1 you spend on local goods, you generate $8 of economic movement. For every $1 you spend on foreign goods, you generate $.08 of economic movement locally. Therefore, you had better be able to get 100x the amount of use out of the foreign goods- and from what I've seen that isn't possible with the crap currently coming out of China.
In addition to that, what I really support is LOCAL CHOICE- the ability to just say no to foreign products when it hurts a neighbor.
We have an amazing new invention: the boat. No need to "move businesses" there or anywhere. You can actually move goods across oceans! By jiminy!
Boats waste fossil fuels, as well as provide a hiding place for terrorists trying to cross borders, or ship in a bomb. They are a major security risk . Asside from that, boats have crews- and we cannot afford to trust those crews.
Why is it better to have a company that is owned, managed, and manufactures in China than one that is owned and managed in the US but manufactures in China?
It's better to have neither- as our trade deficit shows. However, I don't see any difference between the two- the only people in the US getting rich off of US managment are a class of people I consider to be Chinese Sleeper Agents to begin with.
The last time an Asian nation was in this position it was 20-25 years ago and it was Japan who had built up amazing trade surpluses and political pressure was pressuring them to raise the value of their currency and writing new anti-dumping laws. However, we prospered through that as they (like the Chinese) spent a large portion of their trade wealth buying vastly overpriced assets in the US (then selling them for huge losses (sometimes nominal other times just real losses) months and years later.
My family didn't prosper- my family lost jobs that never returned. Millions of US factories that closed in the 1980s no longer exist at all- those jobs were lost forever, the people who filled them are our mentally ill and disabled today. Sure, somebody profited and prospered- but it wasn't your average US citizen, or even your average Japanese citizen who has now suffered through a decade of depression because of it. No- a few rich traitors at the top were who prospered. Both countries would have been better off without it ever happening.
Effictivly their years of mercantilism got them ownership of lots of corporations and real estate that proceeded to lose a substantial amount of value after they bought (does the Rockefeller center or Pebble Beach ring any bells). I fail to see how it was bad that they first sold us frequently at or below their costs of production, then they gave us the money back through trading or domestic investments.
How many US factory workers saw that money come back? How many families are homeless today thanks to that debacle? Traitors prospered- and the American people lost their manufacturing ability almost completely. And in the 1990s- when the DOW hit 10,000 thanks to the "return" of money, the number of people malnourished in America also hit an all-time high. We traded the middle class away for that "investment". And ended up by erasing the win of WWII.
The more successful companies invested in new production assets (look at the foreign auto plants in the South). How would you classify those in your economics is the new warfare paradigm?
As a total win for Japan's Noblity over American democracy- Hirohito's Revenge for WWII's military defeat was the beginning of the destruction of the American middle class, who has been losing out economically ever since. Asia inc. has defeated us- we are a nation occupied.
While you may have a point in that it is unprofitable for the American nation, many businesses themselves are turning a profit.
Agreed- but those businesses are turning that profit at the expense of the nation. Economics is the modern warfare- and those who harm the economics of the nation are traitors to the nation. If they like China so much- they should move their businesses there.
Btw, are all the products that are shipped from China considered imports? In that case any electronic device etc that is produced by an American firm in China is considered an import? This by itself skews the trade deficit as from my naive perspective most of the money that americans pay for these "imported" goods go back to american companies/tax to the state etc. Of course I guess a big portion goes to chinese investors and the goverment too, but not all of it and I am guessing not even the most of it. Of course the obvious drawback is that american jobs are lost, yet american money may not be lost (just redistributed to the rich).
By Chinese law, 51% of factory ownership must be native Chinese- therefore the norm isn't an American company producing something in China, it's a Chinese company subcontracting an American Brand Name to pretend to be an American Company, with a small royalty paid to the owners of that brand name.
Plus, as far as I'm concerned, any company that only has a PO box here but all of their offices and factories are offshore is effectively no longer an American company- they probably keep all their money in the Caymans anyway just to avoid American taxes.
Just because we import more than we export to China does not mean that our exports are unprofitable, quite the contrary.
Actually, that's exactly what it means. Profitability is (what you sell)-(what you buy). If you are buying more than you are selling, you will NEVER be profitable. Anything else is just obscufacation of the real central matter- that it's unprofitable for a first world nation to engage in trade of any sort with a nation that has a lower standard of living. Individual companies may prosper- but they are taking those profits at the expense of the rest of the economy, and are thus TRAITORS- and should be treated as such. I personally support the freezing of assets and the exile of all C-level executives of such companies to the nation they really are working for- in this case, China.
Well, outsourcing your lowest-level jobs to India is one thing. Moving there and having your new board of directors babbling "durka durka durrr" all day is something entirely different.
If your board of directors has no human contact with your workers, you're setting your company up for Enron style abuses. But then again why would that be new?
No, worst case they move their corporate HQ out of the US, (and set up a shell company in the US, to handle that business) thereby not only no longer having to worry about the new laws, but also moving their taxable revenue outside the US. As well as a fair portion of their jobs.
Given the repeated insinuation that American Software Engineers are worthless in comparison to the great and glorious India Institute of Technology graduates (after all, why else have an H-1b program to make Americans unemployed and bring them here), I think that end for Google or any other software company is unaviodable at this point- the stockholders will require it (after all, why should they pay a $45,000/year salary when they could get by paying a $5000/year salary for the same job?)
Yep. Especially since any rational businessman would stay the hell away from China to begin with. Foreign trade in general is not profitable, at least for American businesses, and hasn't been for 30 years now. Why would anybody want to do business in China?!?!?!? They're just a bunch of con artists taking our natural resources to create crappy products and charge us a lot of money to ship the natural resources east and the finished products west.
Agreed, way too common- but most spyware removal programs count even a single registry entry as a piece of spyware- so I'd say the estimate is a bit low. I usually run into 20-100 pieces of spyware on an infected machine.
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So would your solution have a centrally controlled economy, where threats like this are met by government-sponsored counterstrikes directed at whatever the terrorists hold dear?
Yep, like nuking Mecca.
By that logic, maybe we should have the US go overseas and forcibly occupy some prominent Arab nation, in the name of a "War on Terror". Yeah, that's the ticket...
No- you're thinking late 20th century tactics, rather than 6th century tactics and 21st century armaments. Military occupation is not sufficient to be called terrorism- especially the weak-willed hand-out-candy-to-kiddies occupations that Americans have been doing since the 1940s. No, I'm talking more a "kill 500 of their relatives for every one of ours that dies by a suicide bomber" type terrorism. Or better yet "Kill every male child, take everybody else ans sell them as slaves, tear down their holy city so that no stone sits on top of another, and sow the fields with salt". Worked to end the Zionist Terrorism of 70 A.D. It took until 1948 before Jews once again gained a significant presence in Jerusalem.
Clearly in this case, terrorism has been effective.
Terrorism is effective- and market-based economics IS HIGHLY COWARDLY. The proper response to terrorism isn't self-censorship- it's more and bigger terrorism. You find out what the terrorists care about and you take that away as spectacularly and explosively as possible. Then it's up to them to decide whether they want more terrorism or to take the cowardly stance.
Radio Shack will start hiring people with some real education for their salespeople- this would be a vast improvement for geeks everywhere who currently need a Radio Shack Part Number or a physical description to get the part they need, where you'd think just the name of the part should be enough. How damn hard is it to figure out what a .2 picofarad capacitor is?!?!?!?
And even better yet- REAL jobs not advertisements for the sake of getting a visa for the guy you already hired in India.
Or do you want to be a manager? MDA tools are great for managers who want to get code done quickly, with no art, exactly to specs. These people are the type who played Nintendo growing up instead of getting their parents to buy a real computer- people who care about end results more than the process of getting to those end results. MDA is just the latest version of RAD- and while RAD has it's place, you sacrifice something for getting the program done fast in terms of useability and resource utilization, as well as just plain art of coding. But if your ends justify your means, and profit/cost is the overriding factor in all that you do, well, memory, hard drives, and microprocessors are cheap in comparison to good code.
With a Master's in COMPUTER SCIENCE? No, they want MBAs for those positions, people who know how to destroy projects. For an MSc if he graduated from an American school and is white, his new phrase should be "You want fries with that"?
I can't believe that they've missed the one native inhabitant of Australia that if they would just breed them in captivity then release them, your cane toad problem would be gone: Common Keelback Snakes. But it seems they are currently quite rare- and it seems to me somebody in Hawaii may have a better answer to the question, what eats cane toads?
Get rid of the subsidies (they waste tax dollars), but leave each their own labour laws and currency.
Why? After all, aren't labour laws and currency exchanges a form of subsidy that allows citizens to be mistreated for the profit of the government?
If you don't like Chinese goods (and you don't), you don't have to buy them.
I didn't used to have no choice in the matter- but then several companies started making goods only in China. It's to the point that if you want clothes, you need to buy Chinese because their textile subsidies have created an unjust advantage- so that even American labeled clothes use Chinese textiles. Same with just about any other product you can imagine- buy a Ford Escort, and half the parts come from China. Look at the labels inside your Dell (supposedly American Made) computer, and half the parts come from China. You don't have a choice as a consumer to avoid China anymore- they are the manufacturing center of the world, and YOU WILL BUY CHINESE.
Problem solved.
Not by a long shot- and if you think it is, well, I hope you enjoy that job flipping burgers at McDonalds until a Chinese built robot takes your place like it did for your fry cook.
Fine. I agree with not wasting tax dollars subsidizing any industries or business. The government should not be making loans anyway. Let private individuals make loans if they want to.
Do you include this as being worldwide? Do you include China in that, to bring this back on topic? Since after all, if China had EXACTLY THE SAME LABOR LAWS AS THE UNITED STATES and NO SUBSIDIES and EXACTLY THE SAME CURRENCY, then jobs would not be going there.
Why not just find out what eats them in Hawaii and import that?
What was missing from that documentary for me was this: What eats Cane Toads in Hawaii, a much smaller island that hasn't been overrun? And why don't we introduce THAT animal to Australia?
No. Just let them be.
.75 cubic meters. A cargo container is 360 cubic meters. You can't search one without unloading and reloading it by hand.
If we truly let them be- don't interfere in their markets with our subsidized exports, don't loan them money, etc- then we are thinking LOCALLY.
That might be relevant, except you have yet to ever talk of someone hurting someone else, or even doing anything wrong or immoral. Except you did make it somewhat clear that a company stole your coat. That's not a lot to show so far.
Ah, so you are THAT AC coward. Well, a good example is third world farmer's suicide rates, which are directly attributable to our agricultural subsidies. But beyond that- PROFIT IS HARM. If you're earning a profit, you're either overcharging your customers or you are underpaying your workers (in other words, your cost of manufacture is NOT equal to your sales price).
Thinking globally is the cause of competition and excellence, which minimizes corruption. A company that is crap-tacular at building things and has a captive audience (think Ford before Japan stepped up to the plate to provide us the good cars we needed) can be corrupt and avoid paying the piper for it. Allowing people freedom to make the best, informed choices also increases jobs: during the era of greatly increading free trade, the number of middle-class Americans has grown by hundreds of thousands of people.
Ford before the Japs was one of the most moral companies I know of- they produced a good product and made sure their workers were paid enough to actually buy the product they were manufacturing. That is EXACTLY the sort of corporation I want in this country. The number of middle class people in the United States has been shrinking since 1960, BTW.
Actually....getting rid of unneeded artificial barriers this greatly reduces such divisions.
Human beings will form such divisions anyway- it's hardwired in our genes to consider our own above people we don't know. Thus it's worthless to work against nature in that way.
You advocate theft and violence to combat personal, moral, nonviolent decisions decisions.
If you're stealing from your neighbors, you are not making moral decisions.
Nah. We need hyper-fast super sail boats. Trade barriers and hindrances need to be eliminated.
They don't exist- and trade barriers and hinderances are actually a part of being human.
Even if this is true, it would be 8 million worthless overpaid unneeded jobs that someone else would be a lot better at, and is only prevented from doing so by unnecessary barriers.
Then why do your chinese imports fall apart so quickly?
Trade barriers are fine, only as long as they are part of your personal choice.
If you choose to be a part of a nation, then you have made the personal choice for trade barriers- otherwise you're a traitor and don't need to be a part of the nation.
Again, can you name ONE terrorist that came over this way?
Jose Padula- who murdered a federal parks agent in cold blood in August 2002.
1) Wal-Mart adverts before and after the illegal alien sting showed no price change.
They didn't- and you can check that out yourself if you weren't a coward.
2) the company-owned desk where you once worked was really your personal property.
$250 out of my first check stub shows that one.
It certainly is. Backtracking from your math, you have each inspector inspecting just ONE single container each day. In reality, it is a very quick matter to find out if there are human beings in a container, so one inspector could inspect dozens a day. That brings it up pretty close to 100% inspection. Hire just a few more inspectors, and it is all covered. And then some.
Spoken like somebody who has never even seen a cargo container. Hint- a human being is about
It is one planet, a small one indeed. Remove the "local" factor which you use to mean one entire small area. Then you get every $1 spent on planet earth goods generating $8 of economic movement. That's a great deal! (Think globally, act globally).
Not until the US government marches on, and removes, all other governments in the world. And even then you have the anonymity problem- the fact that human beings are not wired feel guilty about hurting people they don't know personally, and thus feel just fine about cheating customers and workers that they will never meet. Thinking Globally is the cause of business corruption.
I support this choice too. As always, consistently, I support maximum choice. Thus, you get to make your choice. This includes "local choice". Your neighbor gets to make his/her choice, even if it is very different from yours.
At which point you've just put anonymity into the mix- separating human beings instead of joining them together into tribes and clans, encouraging corruption and immoral behavior and destroying your neighbor's standard of living. Personally, I believe the punishment for that level of choice should be that your neighbor can take a gun and steal what he needs from you.
Replace them with sail boats, or run them on burger king grease. One "excuse" gone.
At which point you slow goods down to the point that you've raised exactly the type of trade barrier I'm for. On slower, non-fossil-fueled boats, food rots, thus opening a market for local goods. I say if you simply charged shipping companies with a single cent-per-mile tax, you'd erect enough of a barrier to create eight million jobs in the United States.
Maybe, but can you name one terrorist who came over that way?
MS-13 is a drug cartel and human smuggling operation who will smuggle ANYBODY into the country in this way for either $2000 payment or 1.5 lbs of meth traveling with the person.
It's easily solved by inspecting the containers, anyway.
1.2 million containers cross our borders each day, we have 20,000 inspectors. You do the math- it's not humanly possible to inspect more than 2% of the containers.
Another excuse gone.
Except once again your suggestion bears NO resemblence to reality.
I know, I know. They cannot be trusted because you do not control them..... I am sorry, I can't get rid of this "Excuse", just like I can't easily get rid of an excuse that really means "there is someone there, and they might do something I do not like". Well.... maybe I can get rid of this one. We will get rid of ALL of the crews of those hated sailors. All ships will now be "controlled by wire", all leading back to instances of ShipMate (tm) running on YOUR computer (little ship's wheel icons, slider icons controlling the rudder, buttons controlling robot arms that tie ropes, etc). This way, you can handle all of the functions of the crew. The last excuse gone.
Nope- that is even MORE dangerous- it means that you've now got a robotic ship loaded in a foreign port by governments that are enemies of this country that have nuclear capability. China wants to destroy Seattle? It's now become damned easy.
Do you plan on lining up sailors against the wall before or after you nuke India? I know why you hate people from India: because some of them are better workers. But why do you hate sailors? Is it from childhood nightmares caused by Popeye cartoons?
I cannot trust enemies of the United States- and recent events have proven to me that the United States has no friends anywhere. The WTO that we created has become the end of our democracy- we are now an occupied territory facing sure destruction from every country not our own- and we can no longer ignore the threat. We can't afford cowards and peaceniks anymore.
I support your freedom to make these personal decisions (such as trade decisions). I do not support your idea of forcing your personal choices on others. Some rights are way to important to have others/governments take away.
Then be prepared to FIGHT for those rights- because you're going to have to kill me to stop me.
I doubt this would have an effect- but have they considered the fact that global warming may well eliminate the Gulf Stream entirely in the next 10 years? Without that bunch of ice in the north, the convection current propelling the gulf stream's counter-clockwise motion simply won't happen.
HDTV compatible mobile drive-in theaters....
I suspect that the actual trigger for human monogamy was annoyed wives who wanted their children to inherit in a paternalistic system
There, fixed better.
Depends on the definition of "Harm". You appear to advocate walls and barriers which force people to waste money on overpriced, inferior goods. You would take away the advantage to the people AND the economy of being able to choose the best. Looks like harm to me!
The Local mutiplier wipes out the value of best- for every $1 you spend on local goods, you generate $8 of economic movement. For every $1 you spend on foreign goods, you generate $.08 of economic movement locally. Therefore, you had better be able to get 100x the amount of use out of the foreign goods- and from what I've seen that isn't possible with the crap currently coming out of China.
In addition to that, what I really support is LOCAL CHOICE- the ability to just say no to foreign products when it hurts a neighbor.
We have an amazing new invention: the boat. No need to "move businesses" there or anywhere. You can actually move goods across oceans! By jiminy!
Boats waste fossil fuels, as well as provide a hiding place for terrorists trying to cross borders, or ship in a bomb. They are a major security risk . Asside from that, boats have crews- and we cannot afford to trust those crews.
Why is it better to have a company that is owned, managed, and manufactures in China than one that is owned and managed in the US but manufactures in China?
It's better to have neither- as our trade deficit shows. However, I don't see any difference between the two- the only people in the US getting rich off of US managment are a class of people I consider to be Chinese Sleeper Agents to begin with.
The last time an Asian nation was in this position it was 20-25 years ago and it was Japan who had built up amazing trade surpluses and political pressure was pressuring them to raise the value of their currency and writing new anti-dumping laws. However, we prospered through that as they (like the Chinese) spent a large portion of their trade wealth buying vastly overpriced assets in the US (then selling them for huge losses (sometimes nominal other times just real losses) months and years later.
My family didn't prosper- my family lost jobs that never returned. Millions of US factories that closed in the 1980s no longer exist at all- those jobs were lost forever, the people who filled them are our mentally ill and disabled today. Sure, somebody profited and prospered- but it wasn't your average US citizen, or even your average Japanese citizen who has now suffered through a decade of depression because of it. No- a few rich traitors at the top were who prospered. Both countries would have been better off without it ever happening.
Effictivly their years of mercantilism got them ownership of lots of corporations and real estate that proceeded to lose a substantial amount of value after they bought (does the Rockefeller center or Pebble Beach ring any bells). I fail to see how it was bad that they first sold us frequently at or below their costs of production, then they gave us the money back through trading or domestic investments.
How many US factory workers saw that money come back? How many families are homeless today thanks to that debacle? Traitors prospered- and the American people lost their manufacturing ability almost completely. And in the 1990s- when the DOW hit 10,000 thanks to the "return" of money, the number of people malnourished in America also hit an all-time high. We traded the middle class away for that "investment". And ended up by erasing the win of WWII.
The more successful companies invested in new production assets (look at the foreign auto plants in the South). How would you classify those in your economics is the new warfare paradigm?
As a total win for Japan's Noblity over American democracy- Hirohito's Revenge for WWII's military defeat was the beginning of the destruction of the American middle class, who has been losing out economically ever since. Asia inc. has defeated us- we are a nation occupied.
While you may have a point in that it is unprofitable for the American nation, many businesses themselves are turning a profit.
Agreed- but those businesses are turning that profit at the expense of the nation. Economics is the modern warfare- and those who harm the economics of the nation are traitors to the nation. If they like China so much- they should move their businesses there.
Btw, are all the products that are shipped from China considered imports? In that case any electronic device etc that is produced by an American firm in China is considered an import? This by itself skews the trade deficit as from my naive perspective most of the money that americans pay for these "imported" goods go back to american companies/tax to the state etc. Of course I guess a big portion goes to chinese investors and the goverment too, but not all of it and I am guessing not even the most of it. Of course the obvious drawback is that american jobs are lost, yet american money may not be lost (just redistributed to the rich).
By Chinese law, 51% of factory ownership must be native Chinese- therefore the norm isn't an American company producing something in China, it's a Chinese company subcontracting an American Brand Name to pretend to be an American Company, with a small royalty paid to the owners of that brand name.
Plus, as far as I'm concerned, any company that only has a PO box here but all of their offices and factories are offshore is effectively no longer an American company- they probably keep all their money in the Caymans anyway just to avoid American taxes.
Just because we import more than we export to China does not mean that our exports are unprofitable, quite the contrary.
Actually, that's exactly what it means. Profitability is (what you sell)-(what you buy). If you are buying more than you are selling, you will NEVER be profitable. Anything else is just obscufacation of the real central matter- that it's unprofitable for a first world nation to engage in trade of any sort with a nation that has a lower standard of living. Individual companies may prosper- but they are taking those profits at the expense of the rest of the economy, and are thus TRAITORS- and should be treated as such. I personally support the freezing of assets and the exile of all C-level executives of such companies to the nation they really are working for- in this case, China.
Well, outsourcing your lowest-level jobs to India is one thing. Moving there and having your new board of directors babbling "durka durka durrr" all day is something entirely different.
If your board of directors has no human contact with your workers, you're setting your company up for Enron style abuses. But then again why would that be new?
No, worst case they move their corporate HQ out of the US, (and set up a shell company in the US, to handle that business) thereby not only no longer having to worry about the new laws, but also moving their taxable revenue outside the US. As well as a fair portion of their jobs.
Given the repeated insinuation that American Software Engineers are worthless in comparison to the great and glorious India Institute of Technology graduates (after all, why else have an H-1b program to make Americans unemployed and bring them here), I think that end for Google or any other software company is unaviodable at this point- the stockholders will require it (after all, why should they pay a $45,000/year salary when they could get by paying a $5000/year salary for the same job?)
Yep. Especially since any rational businessman would stay the hell away from China to begin with. Foreign trade in general is not profitable, at least for American businesses, and hasn't been for 30 years now. Why would anybody want to do business in China?!?!?!? They're just a bunch of con artists taking our natural resources to create crappy products and charge us a lot of money to ship the natural resources east and the finished products west.
Agreed, way too common- but most spyware removal programs count even a single registry entry as a piece of spyware- so I'd say the estimate is a bit low. I usually run into 20-100 pieces of spyware on an infected machine.