Slashdot Mirror


RadioShack CEO Resigns

xzvf writes to tell us Forbes is reporting that RadioShack CEO David J. Edmondson has resigned. Reeling from a 62% drop in fourth quarter net income the company has announced a sweeping restructuring plan. From the article: "Edmondson said in a separate statement Monday that new leadership was needed so the company's turnaround plan would have the best possible chance to succeed. The revamp announced Friday prompted mixed responses from analysts, who indicated the plan might be successful but, at that time, they doubted Edmondson's ability to pull it off after it became clear he had lied about his education."

474 comments

  1. Check? by Agent00Wang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "became clear he had lied about his education"

    It seems like you hear about this more and more in the business world. Don't they even bother to check people out?

    --
    NINJA SPIRIT - The Ancient Art of Insanity
    1. Re:Check? by jcr · · Score: 1

      Don't they even bother to check people out?

      You'd be amazed at how many businesses don't.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    2. Re:Check? by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't they even bother to check people out?

      They did ask for his mailing address...

    3. Re:Check? by Agent00Wang · · Score: 1

      I guess it's more understandable at lower levels, but you'd think that at the CEO level they might want to make sure they're getting what they paid for. If a person has a well established record of success I can see why they might be less likely to look into credentials that are further in the past (such as education), but you'd still think that it would be worth the 15 minutes it would take to call up the school and verify.

      --
      NINJA SPIRIT - The Ancient Art of Insanity
    4. Re:Check? by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's pretty surprising considering that Radio Shack normally requires background screenings in order to buy some freakin batteries.

    5. Re:Check? by RockModeNick · · Score: 2, Funny

      My father once ran in quickly to do just that, and they start asking him for name, addy, digits, everything - he stared at the clerk for a couple seconds and then repeated "just these batteries" and blinked until the guy rung him up and took his 5$.

    6. Re:Check? by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 3, Funny

      the previous president of Poland (two cadencies, 8 years in total - 1998-2006) lied about his education. Media went berserk about it after the first election, and yet(!) he managed to get elected for the second time.

      I live in Poland, so I know for sure.

      --
      #
      #\ @ ? Colonize Mars
      #
    7. Re:Check? by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 1

      sorry it was 1997-2005 (new year's eve mistake)

      --
      #
      #\ @ ? Colonize Mars
      #
    8. Re:Check? by brunes69 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I usually find its faster to give them the old "10 Nowhere Drive, 90210, 555-1212" routine. If they start to clue in they just stop asking. If they don't then who cares.

    9. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is no shortage of people on Slashdot with no business education who think they could run a business.... Seriously- Why does everyone here insult Biz degrees and MBAs?

    10. Re:Check? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I guess it's more understandable at lower levels, but you'd think that at the CEO level they might want to make sure they're getting what they paid for.

      The thing is that he'd been with Radio Shack for 11 years, and become the top sales associate before being offered the job as CEO. Whatever checks might have happened, probably didn't happen 11 years ago. Since then, no one had any reason to question his education. He was a full time employee with an excellent record. What else was necessary?

      After he crashed and burned the company, people started paying attention to who he was and where he came from.

    11. Re:Check? by iBod · · Score: 1

      Batteries can normally be found in the "Home and Hobby Bomb-Making" rack at most RS stores.

    12. Re:Check? by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 1

      Don't they even bother to check people out?

      Only when they need an excuse to fire.

    13. Re:Check? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      P.S. I can't find the records on Gary Focker, anywhere! :-P

    14. Re:Check? by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 1, Funny

      Radio Shack had questions - he clearly did not have answers.

    15. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They used to ask for basic info, but they haven't for a very long time!

    16. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm - because it's not really that hard? Because most of us work in companies where MBA types get all the raises and bonuses, but can't figure out the most basic things? Because MBA degrees are a dime a dozen, and most of the "brilliant" business types wandering around with them really don't know the first things about making money? And another thing - can it really be that hard when they are still teaching the exact same things that they taught 80 years ago? I don't know many MBAs that have to constantly learn new things in order to keep performing their jobs, where as in the technology fields I don't go a week without having to pick up new skills. (To be fair, that isn't really just an MBA thing, that covers most of the jobs in most companies.)

      Let's face it, the basics of successful businesses are very simple. Bring in more than you spend = good business model. Are there more options than that? Sure. Are the other options what MBAs use? Usually. What happens to those companies? Think Enron.

      I know that I'm painting with a very broad brush here, but let's be honest about it. How many MBAs are really worth the hype around the degree? Not many that I've met. But on the other hand, they sure do manage to dress nice and get really good paying jobs. Guess that is the real skill set that most MBAs bring to the table.

      My disclaimer: I'm not an MBA. I've been running businesses off and on since high school. I currently am running two businesses, with a third on the way. I'm a technology guy. With no formal education beyond high school

    17. Re:Check? by Greg_D · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you have an aggressive streak, the ability to lie with a straight face, can communicate effectively, and the ability to remember a few facts and figures, you too can be a top salesman. No education beyond high school necessary.

      The qualifications necessary for a sales position and CEO aren't even close to being the same, and they should have checked his qualifications again before ever giving him the top spot. If you're a salesperson and you screw up big time, they can fire you and give your accounts to someone else, but even then you're not likely to hurt the company a great deal. If you're a CEO and you screw up, everyone in the company, and especially the shareholders, feel it.

    18. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because they can't run businesses either,and that's all they've been trained to do.

    19. Re:Check? by Ubergrendle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Two things to consider: educational background has little relevance to one's capabiltiy of doing many corporate jobs. He's proven that with an 11 year successful internal record. I've seen it personally time and time again. The best development manager I ever worked for was a philosophy major in university. I personally have fired an MIT grad and opted to retain the community college grad, based on actual peformance, work ethic, and team mindedness.

      The other is the peter principle...one rises to the level of one's own inability. Unfortunately, the role of CEO requires very diffierent skills from top sales associate, or even head of marketing. His lack of success as CEO can just as easily be explained by a) inheriting a mess, b) lack of board support, and c) not the right man for the job. The educational question is probably just a hatchet job done to justify his removal after the fact -- "We've got a problem with Bob...find a reason to fire him!"

      --
      John Maynard Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do?"
    20. Re:Check? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      There's no shortage either of MBAs running large corporations into the ground.

      Just goes to show you can't trust anybody these days ;)

      --

      May contain traces of nut.
      Made from the freshest electrons.
    21. Re:Check? by Shipwack · · Score: 3, Funny

      I usually respond to questions about my address, phone, etc by looking the (usually) male clerk in the eyes, putting my hand on top of his, and repsonding, "I'm flattered, but you really aren't my type...."

      Since I'm a big husky guy, they usually stammmer and just give me my batteries.

    22. Re:Check? by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Informative

      One of the primary duties of a CEO is lead stock salesman, it can be a tougher sell than some electronics goods, but Wall St and Madison Ave should intersect if the map reflected their operations.

      --
      Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
    23. Re:Check? by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Interesting

      the top sales associate before being offered the job as CEO.

      How does being a good salesman equate with the leadership and organizational ability required of a CEO? I understand, CEOs must to some extent "sell their company", but many great CEOs are very introverted, out-of-the-limelight type of people.

      I worked at a Radio Shack (a company owned store) for a few years, and the pressure to sell people expensive items, whether or not they needed them, was intense. Batteries were (and still are) the big killer profit-maker for them. They really beat it into our heads to sell those batteries. Why do you think Radio Shack gave out those coupons for free flashlights all the time? Because if just a few takers would buy batteries for them then they did very well.

      Anyone that excels in sales in that type of environment plays dirty. Period. So the fact that he was a leading salesman tells me enough about his character to know that he is not someone that should be in charge.

      Dan East

      --
      Better known as 318230.
    24. Re:Check? by Agent00Wang · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I wonder how the "little" lie that helped him get his original position at Radio Shack 11 years ago affected him in his rise through the ranks. Can you imagine wondering all those years whether someone was going to find you out eventually? Sure, it seemed like a harmless bit of misinformation when he was applying to be a sales associate, but it quickly becomes a much greater liability as power and position increase.

      --
      NINJA SPIRIT - The Ancient Art of Insanity
    25. Re:Check? by dickens · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      When they ask "Can I have your home phone number?" I simply reply "No". They will find a way to take your money.

    26. Re:Check? by kurth · · Score: 1

      I always ask them for thier same information. The clerk will say sometimes, something like "why are you asking me for that information?" to which I reply, why are you asking me for my information for?

      The ones that don't say anything just stop, get the hint, and ring me up.

    27. Re:Check? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I personally have fired an MIT grad and opted to retain the community college grad, based on actual peformance, work ethic, and team mindedness.

      In the end, tertiary education does not count for as much as some people think it does, especially in the business world. Tertiary education simply primes your for a certain kind of job. It does no actual on the job training. Sure, you got an 4.0 in your business degree, but can you actually sell product and make money?

      Once you begin working, that is when your true worth becomes apparent.

      --
      May the Maths Be with you!
    28. Re:Check? by Feyr · · Score: 1

      as others have pointed out, he had a "record of successes" at the company, for 11 years. no one had to question his motives.

      don't look at this as anything else than a way to justify firing him (or making him resign). "hey guys, CEO screwed up. lets dig up some dirt so we can fire him and get a better one". his actual record don't matter one bit

    29. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      No need to be a jerk about it, the guy's just doing his job. Try, "Sorry, I don't give that information out." Works every time.

    30. Re:Check? by EatHam · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is *far* easier to teach an engineer business than it is to teach a business person engineering. I'd rather try to teach my dog diff eq.

    31. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only do that if she's good-looking, but to each their own.

    32. Re:Check? by grimwell · · Score: 1

      The best development manager I ever worked for was a philosophy major in university.

      Someone actually trained/schooled in logic made for the best development manager you experienced? shocking, just shocking. ;)

      --
      If the govt becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law, it invites man to become his own law, it invites anarchy
    33. Re:Check? by sirmalloc · · Score: 1

      Once you begin working, that is when your true worth becomes apparent.

      i couldn't agree more

    34. Re:Check? by WetSpot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I had a professor who was fond of describing the importance of putting your degree on your resume as "important only for landing that first job". After that, it's performance and experience based.

      If this CEO fudged his education, it speaks more to his character, judgement, and ethics than his ability sell batteries and solder.

    35. Re:Check? by krbvroc1 · · Score: 1

      Your argument is completely irrelevant. The issue is not what level of education is appropriate, but that he may have lied about his education. It sounds like he was a good sales person and also a lier.

    36. Re:Check? by brunes69 · · Score: 1

      It's not being a jerk. It is supplying the information.

      And "Sorry, I don't give that information out." doe s*not* work every time. I have been in many stores whene they said they had to have the information for the reciept, it was required. At which point I give them fake information.

      So now I just skip the first step and always give fake information. Its faster, its easier, and the person behind the counter really could care less anyway.

    37. Re:Check? by typical · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously, that is one of the most annoying things a store can do -- to demand your personal information at the counter.

      Also, the guy at the register hates doing it, because half the people that go by hate him asking them for it.

      --
      Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
    38. Re:Check? by sstidman · · Score: 1
      I worked at a Radio Shack (a company owned store) for a few years, and the pressure to sell people expensive items, whether or not they needed them, was intense.

      And that is exactly why I stopped going to Radio Shack a long time ago. Every time I go in there, I feel like lunch for the sharks. Same goes for Circuit City and Best Buy (although Best Buy seems to have dropped that mostly). I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way. I'm glad to see that this high-pressure sales policy has backfired so badly. I hope these companies at some point figure it out and start encouraging their employees to behave like decent human beings, not sharks.
      --
      Send/track messages to 100K people: www.xPressAlert.com
    39. Re:Check? by Mille+Mots · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Anyone that excels in sales in that type of environment plays dirty. Period. So the fact that he was a leading salesman tells me enough about his character to know that he is not someone that should be in charge.

      You are unfamiliar with American corporate culture, yes? The entire point of business is to play as dirty as you can get away with in order to 'maximize share holder value.'

      To whit:

      • Enron
      • Global Crossing
      • SCO
      • Martha Stewart
      • others

      --
      Sig null

    40. Re:Check? by russellh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, you got an 4.0 in your business degree, but can you actually sell product and make money?
      Once you begin working, that is when your true worth becomes apparent.


      agreed. but in defense of the business degree, they only truly worthwhile business school experience is when you go back to school after having worked in the real world for a time. the executive MBA programs are entirely different from your random business degree, especially in the top schools that are taught by real life successful business people, who do real work in the real world, and where all the students have done real work in the real world also.

      --
      must... stay... awake...
    41. Re:Check? by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1
      No need to be a jerk about it, the guy's just doing his job. Try, "Sorry, I don't give that information out." Works every time.
      The nazis, too, were just doing their jobs when they gassed all those jews.
    42. Re:Check? by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      And "Sorry, I don't give that information out." doe s*not* work every time. I have been in many stores whene they said they had to have the information for the reciept, it was required. At which point I give them fake information.

      Agreed. Same thing happened to me at Circuit City during the holidays. Just buying a couple of DVD and video games for the kids.
      The guy insisted on having my name and address, which I declined to give. The register had no way to indicate "customer cares about privacy"
      and the guy had to struggle to make up something that it would accept. I actually had to help him out.... "How about 123 Main Street?"

      I have no problem giving my zipcode for the market research BS, but I'll be damned if I'm going to give out my address and phone number to buy a few DVDs.

      --
      Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
    43. Re:Check? by Kankraka · · Score: 2, Informative

      I work at The Source (Read: Radio Shack in Canada) and haate doing that. I've never asked for anyones phone number and all that crap unless they are buying a high priced item, it just makes tracking their reciept down easier in the event that they've lost it and need warrenty/extended warrenty work done. If you're just buying a pack of freakin' batteries, I'm not going to go through all that crap.

    44. Re:Check? by SenorPez · · Score: 0

      WTF did I spend thousands of dollars on an education for? Apparently, all you need to become a CEO, Head of NASA, head football coach at a D1-A school is a good looking resume, truth not withstanding. One more "truth" from my high school guidance counselor that have been proven false, I guess...

    45. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did stop doing that a long time ago. I recall them bragging about the change in an ad campaign, which I thought was odd. They finally stopped a very annoying practice that was unique to them. Yippee. I mean, what next? A store where every customer gets kicked in the crotch, that after a few years tries to make it a selling point that they stop? "Joes Electronics! We don't kick you in the nuts anymore!"

    46. Re:Check? by OnlineAlias · · Score: 1

      I have a degree in philosophy and my concentration was in logic. I always get a strange face from people hiring me trying to figure out what the connection is between philosophy and anything useful. Drives me nuts....

    47. Re:Check? by hempalicious · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Do you also give fake address information when you buy DVDs online, then?

      I'm not saying I agree with the practice of requiring customers to provide the info unnecessarily. However, I do find it ironic that we will refuse to give personal info to someone who we are looking at face-to-face, but give it happily to a nameless, faceless online "storefront".

      Obviously, not everyone buys things online. But to those who do, quit being such hypocrites.

    48. Re:Check? by salesgeek · · Score: 1

      How does being a good salesman equate with the leadership and organizational ability required of a CEO? I understand, CEOs must to some extent "sell their company", but many great CEOs are very introverted, out-of-the-limelight type of people.

      Sales is a vital aspect of top management no matter what your role is. Selling to Wall Street is one thing. Selling initiatives and business plans to your own organization is another (often referred to "getting buy in"). Negotiation, listenting, dealmaking and leadership skills are critical to both salespersons and CEOs. Being "good with customers" and "good with business parnters" and "good with vendors" are all considered positive for a CEO. They are all also attributes of a good sales person.

      Unfortunatly, proficiency in a specialist job (sales, design, engineering, customer service, finance, etc...) never implies the ability to handle a generalist job - which is what work becomes the closer to the top you get.

      --
      -- $G
    49. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well now you can stick it to him...

      David Edmondson
      1306 Plantation Drive
      Southlake, TX 7609

      (817) 421-2991

    50. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy lied about his education, but picked not one, but two do-you-want-fries-with-that majors. Phsychology and theology. Why would anyone think to check?

    51. Re:Check? by kimvette · · Score: 1

      I used to do something similar. Terribly annoying, especially when I just went in to get a CR2032 battery.

      Name?
        Cash
      "I can't put that down, that's fraud". Street?
        123 Main Street

      And so forth. Finally the idiot got the hint that I didn't want to be on the mailing list and just wanted to buy the fucking battery and get on with my life.

      --
      The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
    52. Re:Check? by Cobralisk · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and the nazis had pieces of flare too. Hey my comment is just as relevant as yours!

      --
      Waiting for ad.doubleclick.net...
    53. Re:Check? by symbolic · · Score: 1

      but many great CEOs are very introverted, out-of-the-limelight type of people.

      That's not introversion you see, that's ego. Absurdly high pay, low visibility, and a parachute that will make any degree of non-performance a non-issue.

    54. Re:Check? by bobdotorg · · Score: 1

      I always gave a fake name and 12346 Ventura BLVD, Studio City , CA 91604, which happened to be the address of the local RS.

      Had I been clever, I would have used their CEO's name.

      --
      __ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
    55. Re:Check? by Chubby_C · · Score: 1
      who buys their batteries at Radio Shack anyway?

      I find them to be vastly over-priced for... well, just about everything

      --
      - My question is: Can Slashdot be Slashdotted? -
    56. Re:Check? by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      Do you also give fake address information when you buy DVDs online, then?

      No wonder I never receive my online merchandise. Thanks for pointing that out.

      I'm not saying I agree with the practice of requiring customers to provide the info unnecessarily. However, I do find it ironic that we will refuse to give personal info to someone who we are looking at face-to-face, but give it happily to a nameless, faceless online "storefront". Obviously, not everyone buys things online. But to those who do, quit being such hypocrites.

      How is this hypocritical? I give relevant information to the people who need it. Clearly, the local retail establishment doesn't *need* this information, they just want it.

      If they recognized the fact that some people don't want to give out personal information unnecessarily (granted, some places do allow you to simply say NO), then people wouldn't have to resort to giving out bogus information to maintain some sense of privacy.

      --
      Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
    57. Re:Check? by iwsnet · · Score: 0

      They actually paid the guy $1 million as severance so he won't go to another company or sue them. What a deal!!

    58. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Radio Shack can still be a good place to find a few oddball batteries, like that wierd half-length AA that goes into garage-door remotes. Or that rare Nickel-Cadmium 9v job (the rectangular kind, but rechargable) which I needed to replace in my hot-tub logic board.

      At least nowadays they don't grill you for info at the register, like the Secret Service or something. Hell, I was a volunteer driver for once of President Clinton's visits once, and the background check wasn't as bad as buying something from Radio Shack in days past.

    59. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "educational background has little relevance to one's capabiltiy of doing many corporate jobs"

      THIS is a great excuse for retaining academic failures in 'High Places'

      Without laws that forbid discrimination, God knows how corporate entities would mold hiring policies. Countless are times HR managers hire based on 'looks' 'color' etc but pretend to abide by law. Men in particular hire cute (brainless) girls;)

      This incident at Radio Checks (sic) just proves that academic lepers can survive in our corporate world until....

    60. Re:Check? by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Most universtities teach several different subjects so us scientists/engineers have had first hand experience with these people (and from time to time, their course material).

    61. Re:Check? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      Soemtimes you don't check because you don't want to run the risk of finding something.

      For example, in the software world, if you suspect that something you are doing violates a patent somewhere, it's a bad move to actually go check the patent office. Better to work in the dark. If you are, in fact, in violation of the patent, the penalties are much more severe if you knew beforehand that you were in violation. On the other hand, if you do not check, you can claim ignorance and maybe nobody will even find out.

      Maybe Radio Shack thought that the value this CEO could bring outweighed any discrepencies on his resume, and so they didn't verify. Honestly, I think the idea of using "resumes" at the corporate CEO level is kind of silly anyway. If somebody is a serious candidate for CEO of Radio Shack, does his undergraduate degree (or lack thereof) really matter?

    62. Re:Check? by XO · · Score: 1

      "No" is a lot faster than giving a guy fraudulent information.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    63. Re:Check? by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      There's no "irony" involved. One gives a real address when buying those DVDs online so they can be delivered. In person, you can just trade the money for the product.

    64. Re:Check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Er.... Gates? You mean Bill Gates? From scratch? Are we talking about the Bill Gates who was sent to a prep school that cost more than twice as much as Harvard did? That same Bill Gates with a family that could pay for a Harvard education for him? Yeah... He came up the hard way, didn't he?

      Get a clue, fucktard.

    65. Re:Check? by giarcgood · · Score: 1

      After I had been at my current company for about 3 years, they started getting a lot more formal with 'probity checks' before appointing people to positions. At an awards dinner one night, I asked the CFO, if I apply for an internal job and don't get it because I fail the probity check, can I keep my current job? She laughed and said no, I would be sacked. For some reason people still ask me why I stay at the same job when I get plenty of internal offers.

    66. Re:Check? by peterbu · · Score: 1

      Agreed. But dude. The key issue here is he LIED about it!

    67. Re:Check? by Nakarti · · Score: 1

      On the contrary(and this is from someone also with Radiosnack experience) someone who sells expensive items *successfully* to people who don't really need them was until very recently, and in some cases still is(PS3,) exactly the kind of CEO corporations were looking for.

      Keep in mind, a successful sale is one that stays sold and doesn't cause extra work post-sale. I won't go into details(would probably violate something I signed, somewhere,) but some pretty crappy salesmen can still make a living off battery profits.

    68. Re:Check? by sirambrose · · Score: 1

      Couldn't you just use their credit/debit/check number to look up their transactions instead? The cashier could swipe the card and scan the item. The computer could quickly scan for a match and bring up the receipt. I would imagine it would be more efficient for the cashier and provide a better experience for the customer. Target has such a system and it works quite well. There has to be some other reason that radio shack prefers phone numbers.

  2. slogan by kisrael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "You have questions...we have cellphone plans."

    --
    SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
    1. Re:slogan by Technician · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When they went to toys and phones instead of answers and parts, I stopped visiting. There are lots of places to get good prices on toys and phones. Why did they go from a niche market to an overpriced K-B Toys and cellphones? When I'm breadboarding a hardware project, I order online. I know the local Radio Shack doesn't have parts.

      --
      The truth shall set you free!
    2. Re:slogan by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Overall you're right. Some marketing guy probably thought it was better to get a smaller piece of a bigger pie.

      Though they surprise me sometimes...not so much for raw breadboarding part, but for other little connectory bits, sometimes they're still better than most of the other consumer electronic stores.

      --
      SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
    3. Re:slogan by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am sure this comment is going to be utterly redundant shortly, but last time I went to Radio Shack I wanted solder. Not an exotic transistor or out of the ordinary capacitor, just farking solder for a soldering iron. I looked around the store, and could not find it. So I asked one of the clerks where I could find it (not believing that its possible that Radio Shack could have moved that far away from hobbyist stuff). The clerk did not know what solder was! He had to ask his coworker who said they might have some in the back. I was shocked, and there was another geek next to me who also had a stunned look on his face. In another time or place, or possibly a more empty store, we probably would have hugged each other to console ourselves. After the two of them went in the back store room for almost 10 minutes, he finally returned with a roll of it and asked if it was what I wanted. I walked out feeling like a defeated man. I kind of wanted to take the shitty component systems on the wall shelf and throw them at the stack of overpriced R/C cars.

      I am pretty sure if I had asked him for an LM555C Timer his would have asploded.

    4. Re:slogan by nmos · · Score: 1

      Agreed, their stores are just too small and they have too many of them to be a profitable consumer electronics chain. They need to get back to selling stuff that you cannot get at just any WalMart and stuff where having a knowledgeable staff actually matters.

    5. Re:slogan by eggoeater · · Score: 1


      Previous to that it was:

      Radio Shack: Where engineers shop when crap breaks on a Saturday.

      On a side note: As much as I hate the crap that they sell, they fortunately have a good stock of goofy little adapters. Two hours before my wedding, my best man and I had to race around looking for a rad-shack to get an adapter so I could plug in my mp3 player to the reception halls' sound system. If it wasn't for Radio shack stocking all those different adapters I would have been in BIG TROUBLE!

    6. Re:slogan by Queueless · · Score: 1

      No it's
      "You have questions... Hey! we've got something it common!"

    7. Re:slogan by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Want to know what's worse? They sell replacement soldering gun tips for Weller soldering guns but not for their own brand. WTF?

      Soldering irons, no problem, they carry their own tips -- I wouldn't buy their irons though - I bought one and the filament burnt out (I didn't even get to wear out or otherwise damage the tip in that time) within weeks. Piece of crap. Their soldering guns? they're all right, I just use plain old 10ga copper wire for a replacement tip.

      Radio Shack dug their own grave when they killed off the realistic, archer, and optimus lines and got away from stocking a wide selection of components. Now I know this is redundant, but now they're just another me-too electronics botique.

      --
      The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
    8. Re:slogan by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      The thing that really told me radio shack had become worthless to me was when I was getting ready to mod my Xbox. I've been going in to Radio Shack for years, since I was a kid and just wanted to play Thexder on the trash-80. Going in there always made me marvel at all the stuff you could do for yourself, the kits for etching your own PC boards, all the DIP-chips in their little bubble packages.

      Well, Radio Shack has been going steadily downhill for a long time, but since I moved away from Santa Cruz (I was in Marysville at the time) there was just nowhere to look in town for electronics equipment. If I were back home, Santa Cruz Electronics would have just about anything I needed. But there I was in Marysville, just trying to find a conductive pen. Lo and behold, radio shack no longer carries one, even in their catalog.

      Now, we could make a list a mile long that contains all the crap that Radio Shack no longer sells, but this was the one that really told me how useless they are...

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    9. Re:slogan by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny
      In another time or place, or possibly a more empty store, we probably would have hugged each other...

      I saw that film. Quite disgusting.

      --
      "Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
    10. Re:slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BrokeBack Shack?

    11. Re:slogan by XO · · Score: 1

      a conductive pen? Over the 15 years I was there, they -never- carried one.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    12. Re:slogan by XO · · Score: 2, Insightful

      actually, radioshack sells more wireless phone units, satellite dishes, and a few other smaller products than all other retailers combined. Period.

      And the recurring revenue on a few million wireless phone contracts a year is something you'd be pretty damn appreciative of.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    13. Re:slogan by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative
      Well, your store must have been cracked out, because no more than 10 years ago it was possible to stroll into the radio shack in the capitola mall and purchase one. Also, it was formerly in the radio shack catalog - when I went to go try to get one, the guy behind the counter remembered seeing them in there, but they had mysteriously vanished since the last time he looked in the catalog for one.

      I'm sorry to hear that your radio shack went in the shitter early, or was always there, but radio shack did indeed formerly carry conductive pens. I noticed them originally (as a pre-teen) because the idea was so neat, and I'd never heard of them before.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    14. Re:slogan by kisrael · · Score: 1

      Ok, a "surprisingly big" piece of a bigger pie, then...I figured the #s had to add up for 'em.

      That whole kind of store is interesting niche in the retail ecosphere... retaillers with smaller stores in malls and stripmalls vs bigger outlets.

      I don't think the niche worked out too well for KB, but maybe RS has a better handle on it.

      --
      SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
    15. Re:slogan by XO · · Score: 1

      Well, i think you may be mistaken on time frame. I'm fairly positive I know the -entire- product line front to back, up until I left, but I could be wrong. It's happened a few times. ;-)

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    16. Re:slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > his would have asploded.

      Hs ass would have exploded?

    17. Re:slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i have had the same thing happen to me, i asked for a diode, they told me that the didnt carry them any more. then tryed to sell me a fucking cell phone. i left crying

    18. Re:slogan by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1
      I've been going in to Radio Shack for years, since I was a kid and just wanted to play Thexder on the trash-80.

      Wow. I thought I was the only one. :-)

      I also lusted for Space Quest (I and II) but Thexder and Silpheed was what brought me to Radio Shack.

  3. Hmm.. by MrByte420 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its been news for the last few days that he never gradudated college let alone had the two degrees he claimed. I'm suprised the article writeup only touched on this in italics in the bottom. One of the degrees he claimed wasn't even offered by the university that he claimed awarded it to him.

    --
    If religous zealots don't believe in Evolution, then why are they so worried about bird flu?
    1. Re:Hmm.. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      and who gives a rats? Education = nothing. He probably shined his resume to get past HR idiots at other moments in his career.

      Having degrees does not make you any better than the guy that does not.

      The most sucessful company on this planet was lead there by a college drop out with very little social skills and has the name Bill Gates.

      --
      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    2. Re:Hmm.. by Panaflex · · Score: 1

      LOL, it's somewhat true though. Name some of the biggest, best know business people out there and more than a few have no degrees... (Just of the top of my head)

      Carnegie
      Jobs & Wozniak
      Gates & Allen
      Ellison
      Dell
      Hunt
      Geffen
      Heuzinga
      Kerkorian
      Turner

      Then there's the "late bloomers" (Dropped out of grad school)
      Page & Brin
      Filo & Yang
      Ballmer

      Though - For every billionair dropout, there's probably 1,000 that never reach their potential.

      --
      I said no... but I missed and it came out yes.
    3. Re:Hmm.. by mopower70 · · Score: 1
      Here, here! Mod the parent up and ignore the "integrity" arguments below. The summary (if it's accurate) says
      The revamp announced Friday prompted mixed responses from analysts, who indicated the plan might be successful but, at that time, they doubted Edmondson's ability to pull it off after it became clear he had lied about his education.

      His ability to pull off a management revamping is completely independent of his education. I've seen MBAs ride herd on more business disasters than I care to count. I would be willing to argue that keeping your Harvard Business School education out of corporate America is probably the best way for any company to succeed.
    4. Re:Hmm.. by jafac · · Score: 1

      I reckon that this whole resume dust-up might be a way for the board to flush him out without taking the heat for the bad quarter they had.

      Veritas had a CFO for something like 5-10 years, who had lied about his degrees on his resume - he had performed his job admirably, was a well-known and respected member of the financial community, but when it came down to it, the ability to do his job was based in large part on his credibility, which went down the toilet the day an anonymous tipster telephoned the board with the truth about his college background.

      I'm not saying that they knew all along, or that anybody else actually knew the truth - but it sure proved to be a very convenient diversion of attention when the SEC came calling about their smarmy deal with AOL to trade software for advertisement, which was used in part, to cover up a bad quarter. The CFO, Ken Lonchar, had nothing to do with that particular deal, but he sure got blamed for it. The real crime was that the people who engineered that deal didn't get fired. (They made quite certain in their filing for the class-action lawsuit by shareholders, that Ken Lonchar was named as a separate defendant).

      I suspect we haven't heard the whole story on this Radio Shack deal. And I suspect we never will, because they've got a convenient scapegoat.

      --

      These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
  4. Long time coming.. by j0e_average · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Radio Shack went downhill when they made Cellphone and Satellite TV service their primary sales vehicles. They ought to get back to their roots...providing components for tinkerers. I know there's not as much potential profit in this, but if they were to partner with the editors of Make Magazine, they could become the new hope for the home brew crowd.

    Example: In this month's Make Magazine...there's an article on how to receive free (not illegal) satellite channels by using inexpensive materials. Radio Shack should be the source for this material for those who don't want to scrounge!

    I know this has been a huge plug for Make Magazine...but for goodness sake, when I used to need some obscure part, I knew it could be had cheaply at the Shack...now you have to order a lot of parts.

    1. Re:Long time coming.. by ian_mackereth · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I've nursed a grudge against Tandy/Radio Shack for many years, so their current woes fill my small soul with spiteful glee.

      Back in the 70s, they moved into Australia and tried to buy their way into market dominance, mainly against a local company, Dick Smith Electronics. DSE got hold of documents that showed that RS were prepared to lose a lot of money (by local standards) to wipe out the competition, then make it up with monopolistic pricing.

      It didn't work, not least because they tried to simply transplant an American store to an Australian shop without taking local conditions into account. The publicity from DSE's protests didn't help them, either. Nor did the crap that they were selling!

      Ironically, both Tandy Australia and Dick Smith Electronics were bought by Woolworths Australia (a big supermarket-based chain) in 2001. They still operate seperate shops, but there's a lot of overlap of product.

      (Not completely on-topic, but moderators please note that I've just admitted to carrying a grudge for over thirty years. Mod me down if you like...) 8-)}

    2. Re:Long time coming.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They ought to get back to their roots...providing components for tinkerers.

      Obviously that's an unrealistic plan, especially since there are plenty of component and surplus stores on the web that will have the exact component you need. Besides you are talking about a very tiny portion of the population that can even operate a soldering iron.

      Personally, I think this is an indication that the US consumer is finally tapped and Radio Shack will be the first casualty of a looming recession.

    3. Re:Long time coming.. by sasdrtx · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've found Parts Express to be a great alternative to Radio Shack. It's great for me since I pass them on the way to work, but they are primarily an online order company anyway.

      --
      Most people don't even think inside the box.
    4. Re:Long time coming.. by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A year or 2 ago, I got interested in learning to solder. I've had soldering irons and tinkered a bit before, but I wanted to learn to do it right and actually be able to make things. (Without buring the boards and frying the components, you know?)

      My first thought was 'Radio Shack! They've always had that stuff.' So I'm all happy and travelled 45 minutes to my nearest not-a-cesspit Radio Shack (I wouldn't touch the local one with a 10-ft pole. Very slimey) and start looking for those kits for radios and wireless microphones. They had not a single one! When I finally got a free clerk, his answer was 'We used to have those, but we don't any more.'

      So I took a good look around and they still have some parts like resistors and stuff, and some stuff I have no earthly clue about, but the majority of their store is overpriced phones, overpriced computers, and overpriced toys for adults with too much money and too little sense. I was very disheartened.

      I eventually went to the net to find what I wanted, and got a couple kits (one of them actually worked when I was done!) and had my fun that way.

      In short: The one thing I remember Radio Shack fondly for, they no longer have. That seems like a grave mistake to me.

      --
      "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
    5. Re:Long time coming.. by flandery · · Score: 1

      The problem with going back to their roots and simply selling parts is that even though it's profitable, there is almost zero growth in that particular market. While that prospect may be fine for the typical Mom & Pop electronics store, the publicly traded companies have this unstoppable need to grow. Radio Shack understood it could never compete with Best Buy on selection or price, but they realized people (in the past) came to them for their expertise, and thus the came adds of "You've got questions? We've got answers."

      In order to grow, they partnered with Sprint to take advantage of the growing cell phone industry. Profits from their 'parts' sales were used to help fuel this new area. They took a gamble, and obviously somewhere along the line, their plan backfired. So all that is left is a retailer who nobody will patronize.

    6. Re:Long time coming.. by orielbean · · Score: 1

      I am a huge fan of U-Do-It Electronics in Needham, MA. They have been doing home-brew stuff for years and the staff is amazing. They don't sell you junk and can answer almost any question... They started out renting workbench space so you could come in and fix your electronics right there, with a staffer walking around and offering advice. They just sell parts now, but they have everything for the Maker. /Plugplugplug

    7. Re:Long time coming.. by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Since nobody else is going to, I'd like to take a moment to defend my local and "Very slimey" (wording borrowed from sibling post) RS's cell phone unit. They are a Cingular shop and when I got my new phone, I got it through them. Last summer, I lost my phone at the lake and then the next day had an unplanned driving trip half way across the country (funeral). I went to the Shack to get a warrantied phone replacement. The guy there told me that the policy for replacements has changed and that I'd have to have one shipped now. I told him my situation and that I'd really like to have that phone on the car trip from GA to TX in case of an emergency. He called the warranty center for me and after he got nowhere with them, he gave me one of the refurb phones he had in stock and a brand new car charger. He then set me up with a SIM card and just told me to bring everything back to him once I got back into town. I doubt a Best Buy or Cingular Store would've done the same for me.

      Now this doesn't mean I'm not upset with RS for their continuining decline of general electronic components. I still don't like that I've had to special order a DB-15 male solder-type connector from them. I use online stores now instead of special order from RS. And I sure don't like that they don't have PCB etching kits in stock anymore at my local shop (though they do still have that sort of thing at the mall store). At least I can still get project boxes and bread boards from them.

    8. Re:Long time coming.. by Zerth · · Score: 1

      Totally. I like them so much, I sigged them. Or maybe because it gave me a chance to vent at RS:)

      They don't have quite the spread of parts that Rat Shack did before they went cell-phone-focused, but they're willing to order just about anything they think will sell. If they don't think it will sell, they'll usually still let you order their minimum wholesale quantity.

      Which is nice if you needed 250 of a widget anyway, or if their cost is cheap enough to sell the rest off on ebay and have your purchase pay for itself:)

    9. Re:Long time coming.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The world has changed, at least here in the UK. I used to buy my components from Maplin, because they would sell small quantities to tinkerers. Their catalogue was a bit limited, but they were accessible. The likes of RS (that's Radio Spares, not Radioshack) would only sell to account holders spending thousounds per annum.

      Now Maplin sell mainly PC cards, but RS will sell components to anyone with a credit card. It's amazing. I might not get the same price as the major manufacturers, but I get access to the same catalogue, and I can download all the datasheets over the interweb (datasheets used to be *hard* to come by). Not everything is doom and gloom in the hobby market!

    10. Re:Long time coming.. by Danse · · Score: 1

      I think their best bet is to become something of an all-around techno-hobbyist store. All the usual electronic components and radio equipment, as well as things like remote-control devices, robotics kits and parts, rocketry, etc. I think that's the area where they could really carve out a niche for themselves. People would start going there just to check out what they have, instead of being afraid that someone is gonna try to sell them a cell phone plan.

      --
      It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds. - Captain Hammer
    11. Re:Long time coming.. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I beg to differ. RatShack cant keep the parts on hand. Jameco is the best source for that. The problem with radio shack was that they went out of their way to try and be a "sharper image" clone but with crappier stuff. Everything in Radio shack is really low grade for premium prices.

      That is what killed them. you can get a better deal and better quality at WalMart than at Radio Shack.

      That is what has ultimately killed them.

      --
      Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    12. Re:Long time coming.. by Pope · · Score: 1

      You are 100% on the money, U-Do-It Electronics is a fantastic place to go. I miss it since leaving MA.

      --
      It doesn't mean much now, it's built for the future.
    13. Re:Long time coming.. by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 1

      Fact is mail-order has the ham market covered. The low margin on parts means you got to use mail order to cut costs.

      --
      Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for further development.-- Frontinus, 1st cent. AD
    14. Re:Long time coming.. by Intron · · Score: 2, Funny

      True. If I want a half-baked homebrew project these days, I don't solder it together out of parts, I write it in perl.

      --
      Intron: the portion of DNA which expresses nothing useful.
    15. Re:Long time coming.. by Intron · · Score: 1

      When were you there last? The last time I went in they said they stopped selling parts several years ago, and I haven't been back since.

      --
      Intron: the portion of DNA which expresses nothing useful.
    16. Re:Long time coming.. by tumutbound · · Score: 1

      I remember it well. I used to work for Tandy when they started to sell the TRS-80 in Australia
      One of my jobs used to be to go to Dick Smith and buy what ever computer there were selling at the time
      to find out how it compared to the Tandy product.
      The protests were good advertising for both parties.

    17. Re:Long time coming.. by jheath314 · · Score: 1

      Sadly, my link filter at work didn't quite like the suggestively 'adult' overtones contained within that URL. :(

      Much like penisland.com... get your free pen today from Pen Island! (Sorry... the immature child in me couldn't resist)

      --
      Procrastination Man strikes again!
    18. Re:Long time coming.. by kimvette · · Score: 1

      They do have a great selection but they are WAY overpriced. Take the price that Radio Trash USED to sell parts for, quadruple that price, and add on 3% to cover the merchant account fees then you'll get an idea what U-Do-It charges for components.

      I still shop there because if I need something TODAY they're the only realistic solution in Taxachusetts. :(

      --
      The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
    19. Re:Long time coming.. by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      Radio Shack went downhill when they made Cellphone and Satellite TV service their primary sales vehicles. They ought to get back to their roots...providing components for tinkerers.
      The problems is; what made Radio Shack large wasn't components - it was consumer electronics.

      What killed Radio Shack was twofold 1) the decision to move from a franchise based organization to one consisting of only of company owned stores and 2) the decision to narrowly focus on toys and cellphones.

      I know this has been a huge plug for Make Magazine...but for goodness sake, when I used to need some obscure part, I knew it could be had cheaply at the Shack...now you have to order a lot of parts.
      Make Magazine post dates the changes at the Shack by over a decade. (Make magazine is barely a year old, the Shack changed it's policies nearly fifteen years ago.)
    20. Re:Long time coming.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They any relation to the Woolworth's that used to operate in the US? I think they went bust ~'97-'98, so I'm curious if some incarnation of them survived elsewhere.

    21. Re:Long time coming.. by Zerth · · Score: 1

      parts-express.com works too

    22. Re:Long time coming.. by alc6379 · · Score: 1

      So I took a good look around and they still have some parts like resistors and stuff, and some stuff I have no earthly clue about, but the majority of their store is overpriced phones, overpriced computers, and overpriced toys for adults with too much money and too little sense. I was very disheartened. Did you notice that the items you described were not only overpriced, but even poor quality? Radio shack used to have some decent deals on things like audio equipment, and RC toys. Not any more-- they still sell those things, but they're nowhere near the quality they used to be.

      --
      I don't moderate anymore. Karma penalty for 90% fair mods? Can I mod that unfair?
    23. Re:Long time coming.. by XO · · Score: 1

      sure.. lots of people say they wish all this stuff was still carried.. but.. when you sell fewer units per year than you have number of stores, why would you carry a product?

        When I bowed out of that company last year, I had a couple of products that had been sitting in my store for over 4 years at the time. And that's not the parts. Some of the parts had been unsold in that location for over a decade.

        Then people wonder why they don't carry so much of them? Because no one WANTED the damn things...

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    24. Re:Long time coming.. by XO · · Score: 1

      RS was never a mainly franchise organisation, it has always been mainly company owned, with the franchises filling in areas where the corporate has no interest.

      Toys had been a focus of the company since at least the 70's, when toys in that vein became popular.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    25. Re:Long time coming.. by spxero · · Score: 1

      Well, I have had similar experiences(not neccessarily funerals) in which I needed a replacement. My Cingular store was more than happy to help (after looking up my number and seeing how much we pay per month). I had unintentionally broken my jabra earpiece and went in for a replacement. I told the guy that it broke (without lying) and he threw it away, grabbed one from the shelf, and I was on my way. This was before a 1300 mile car trip by myself, and I needed to be able to call people and talk during that time. I think it's all dependant on the store you go to and the people you talk with.

    26. Re:Long time coming.. by embedded_C · · Score: 1

      I had never heard of Make Magazine until you mentioned it here. I checked it out, and wow - what a cool magazine! I went ahead and subscribed today. Thanks!

  5. NO, NO, NO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You have questions, we have Blank Stares

    1. Re:NO, NO, NO! by kisrael · · Score: 1

      You have questions, we have Blank Stares

      With all due respect to anonymous coward, I think the idea of RS having an one single (and usually wrong) answer for every question, but trying to apply it anyway is funnier than the slant rhyme of "Blank Stares" and "answers".

      Actually I think I transcribed it wrong from my friend who mentioned the "cellphone plans"...it's got, not have. Ah well! I thought I was FP for a while too, maybe I should have taken the time to check twice.

      --
      SO YOU'RE GOING TO DIE: The Comic for Dealing with Death
  6. Another version by Dekortage · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to CNN's article on this topic, Edmundson "originally said he had received a Bachelor of Science degree, but now says he believes -- but cannot document -- that he received a ThG diploma, awarded for completing a three-year degree in theology."

    Call it academic theology: "I believe that I got the degree, but cannot document it." Intelligent design, anyone?

    --
    $nice = $webHosting + $domainNames + $sslCerts
    1. Re:Another version by LinuxGeek · · Score: 1
      ...that he received a ThG diploma...

      Ohh, I thought he meant he had a TomsHardwareGuide diploma. Somehow, I think if someone is lying about having a Theology degree, then they have already missed the entire point of having the degree.
      --

      Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
    2. Re:Another version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i believe that life came from death, but i have no documentation to support it. macro-evolution, anyone?

      even worse, you claim it is "science."

      people with faith based belief systems ought not criticize others with a, well, faith based belief system.

      godless macro-evolution has a lot of holes in it. stop being dishonest and pretending like it doesn't.

  7. Let me guess why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me guess as to why Radio Shack is losing money.

    Hmmmm... how about it's because they are selling VERY EXPENSIVE electronics? Yeah, I think that's it!

  8. The margin's the thing... by aapold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For years now I've associated Radio Shaq with overpriced items... I only go there if they have something I can't get somewhere else and by that I mean something I need right this minute. That's like 3 times in six years for me.

    Plus, what few things they have are all across the board. I always wondered what they held in common, now I see that it was profit margin. A slim range of digital cameras, handheld radios (do people still use these?), stereo wire and connectors and radio control cars (like its a place you bring your kids to?). For each of these if that's what I'm looking for there are other places that come to mind first. Even audio connectors I'll go to some local contractor electronics supplier who can make a custom cable if I need it...

    --
    "Waste not one watt!" - CZ
    1. Re:The margin's the thing... by benzapp · · Score: 1

      Well, retail stores in general are overpriced compared to the mail order places.

      Radio Shack is the convenience store of the technology world.

      --
      I don't read or respond to AC posts
    2. Re:The margin's the thing... by DeanFox · · Score: 2, Interesting


      I recently web ordered a security camera and ignored the additional accessories page. The website had a 100' video cable for $18 and a power supply for $10. In a pinch to install the camera I go to Radio Shack.

      Radio Shack had a 6' cable for $16. I would have needed 16 of them and 15 connectors to equal the 100' at a cost of $331.00. Not that I would have gone that route but still...

      And then there was the power supply. Radio Shack wanted almost $20. We ended up with a different solution that "only" cost me $50 rather than the $28 it would have cost from the original supplier of the camera. And at that I only got 50' not the 100'.

      I'll absorb some premium for the convenience and personalized service but not almost a 100% increase for half the product. I only concluded the sale because I needed it fast.

      I left the store feeling ripped off. And that's a very difficult feeling to market or promote out of your customers. A once loyal fan of RS I'm not even sure I'll go there the next time I'm in a pinch.

    3. Re:The margin's the thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What an idiot. Why didn't you just buy 30 metres of cable and a connector for both ends? No wonder it was going to cost a fortune if you wanted 16 interconnects!

    4. Re:The margin's the thing... by PentAthl337 · · Score: 1
      now I see that it was profit margin. A slim range of digital cameras, handheld radios

      The press releases talk about the balance between their inventory of lower and high margin items. They should try being like a Kwikee Mart.
      Right up the street, convenient, you-know-you-can-get-it-for-less if you drive farther, etc.

      They've had a pretty consistant model for years: stick to your formula, buy the stock at $30 and sell it at $45, delve into a new business every
      five years or so and lose your pants in a market where the big boys play and you don't know what you are doing.

    5. Re:The margin's the thing... by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1
      All the big chain stores specializing in home electronics stick it to you on the little items. 7' ethernet cable? Ought to cost around $2 - $3. RS, BestBuy, Comp USA, Circuit City, Office Whatever all charge about $10 for that. Even WalMart can't sell a plain old cable without a blister package and huge markup. Dual phone jack $10 at Comp USA, and $2 at the K-Mart next door. $5+ for a 50 cent mouse pad. And then there are those ink jet printer cartridge prices, which to be fair the retailers haven't much say over. Last time I mentioned the ethernet cable price at RS, the associate trotted out that lame generic "those cheap cables could have quality issues" scare.

      I like the sort of places that have unpackaged cables, components, and so on sorted into bins and priced reasonably. I suppose RS used to be like that, a long time ago.

      --
      Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    6. Re:The margin's the thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're saying is, you messed up, you messed up, you messed up, and you're stupid, therefore Radio Shack sucks?

    7. Re:The margin's the thing... by PentAthl337 · · Score: 1
      I recently web ordered a security camera and ignored the additional accessories page

      I've recently sent people there for things like webcams, knowing that these consumers would check out the prices
      on the Internet AFTER they bought them.

      The 2005 Logitech webcam could be found for about $4 cheaper online, the 2004 clearance Logitech was competitive,
      and the $200 Panasonic high-end unit was about 10% less at a place I never heard of.

      This is better than my local clone PC shops! And those guys have no inventory and charge more than mail order
      when I pay for next-day delivery by 10:30am.

      Radio Shack is starting to "get it" ... but their well-deserved reputation has a lot of people just heading to WalMart
      who has skimmed off Radio Shack's profitable items, and offers convenenience where "knowledge" isn't needed.

    8. Re:The margin's the thing... by rjune · · Score: 1

      You've found 3 things worth buying at Radio Shack in the last 6 years? Wow, you're doing a lot better than I am. They have all sorts of stuff, but never what I need. They do have grossly over-priced merchandise and condescending sales people. Its not even a fun place to browse.

    9. Re:The margin's the thing... by aapold · · Score: 1
      specfically:

      • A ground loop isolator for my xm radio portable so I wouldn't get feedback when powering it via the car's power point.
      • A set of adhesive cable holders to run wire out of the way (for the same radio).
      • A stereo miniplug to rca adapter.

      And two of these were on a road trip so I didn't know the area and happened to see one in a strip mall.
      --
      "Waste not one watt!" - CZ
    10. Re:The margin's the thing... by XO · · Score: 1

      you ever -use- those cheap cables?

        I have.. and I will happily pay $10 for a short length of cable.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  9. Sign of the times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People buy their electronics from big box stores now, and with the end of the electronics hobbyist RadioShack has been existing on borrowed time for ages. They simply cannot compete in the internet age.

  10. His problem was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    that he needed to be Realistic and not an Optimus.

    1. Re:His problem was by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Nah, he should've been an Optimus, they thump harder. ;)

      --
      Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
  11. What's education got to do with it? by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 1, Funny

    they doubted Edmondson's ability to pull it off after it became clear he had lied about his education

    What was the problem?

    Was he hiding the fact that he had an MBA or something?

    --
    Blearf. Blearf, I say.
    1. Re:What's education got to do with it? by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      It's really simple, he lied on his resume and is subject to termination like anyone else. If anyone gets caught with a lie on their resume or a job application they can be fired. It seems to be happening regularly over the last four years to high profile people.

      --
      Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
    2. Re:What's education got to do with it? by z0idberg · · Score: 2

      The difference being if it was any other level employee they would have been marched out the door when this came to light, instead he resigned with a pat on the back as he walked out the door..

      "Roberts said, 'because Dave is a talented and dedicated individual who has made many contributions to the company. Dave recognized that major distractions for the company could negatively impact its efforts to implement the company's turnaround strategy. Undoubtedly, this was a tough decision.' "

      These CEO types really do live a charmed life.

    3. Re:What's education got to do with it? by stevey · · Score: 1
    4. Re:What's education got to do with it? by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OTOH why they'd care that the company's CEO had or hadn't a degree in theology is completely beyond me.

      What did they expect him to do, exorcise the financial reports ?

      --

      May contain traces of nut.
      Made from the freshest electrons.
    5. Re:What's education got to do with it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Theologists are known for getting God on the good side of the company, duh. Why do you think R/S is doing so bad? Poor sales? Bad product Line? Customized RC's? No... its God's doing.

    6. Re:What's education got to do with it? by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      He still got canned, and with the press coverage he will never get another high profile job.

      --
      Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
  12. Realistic by FrankDrebin · · Score: 4, Funny

    new leadership was needed so the company's turnaround plan would have the best possible chance to succeed

    Sounds like a Realistic(tm) plan to me.

    --
    Anybody want a peanut?
    1. Re:Realistic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you can't buy REAL, buy REALISTIC.

  13. News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by postbigbang · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Big box consumer electronics retailers have usurped the role of the neighborhood consumer electronics store. Remember that not long ago, this was Tandy Leather Company. Although the company has changed over the years, each of their markets has big competition:

    - Cell phones and 2-way phones are in the big box retailers
    - Fry's and others have edged the electronic components and tech tool offerings
    - TVs, computers, stereos, and others are the domain of Best Buy, Circuit City, etc...
    - Tech toys have also been gnawed on by a slew of retailers

    So it's no fun to be Radio Snack, as my uncle calls them. Closing 700 stores is only the first step on a long journey back to health for these guys, as they try to find identity and appeal in the major and tiny markets they once did well in.

    Getting smeared because of their ex-CEO's dubious credentials is just another nail in the coffin if they're not careful.

    --
    ---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
    1. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      I wish they'd stick to their guns and sell stuff like circuit boards, toggle switches, fuses, diodes, and solder. Maybe remote controlled cars and some audio / visual equipment, too. That's fine. All the other junk is just overpriced whats-its, like speaker wire.

      ~Will

      --
      sig?
    2. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Tandy Leather was sold many years ago. They are still around, but harder to find. I remember goign to Tandy alot when I was a kid. Back then, my dad did leather work to supplement his income. I still carry a wallet he made. He still does the stuff, but has to get the kits via mail most times.

      Links:

      Radio Shack History
      Tandy Leather

      Radio Shack still does sell alot of components, but just not as many as there used to be. I have not seen a ole 200 in 1 kit lately. Problem is how do you get kids intrested in component circuits? I would love to see Radio Shack start to carry computer components and mother boards. They have some things, but you can't really build a computer with parts from Radio Shack anymore(you coudl have back in the component days).

      --

      Gorkman

    3. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by hal2814 · · Score: 1

      Can't build a computer?! They still have PCB etching kits at some locations. Sure you can build a computer. You'll just have to do it from the ground up. Oh, and you might have to solder some components directly in since I'm pretty sure they don't carry PCI sockets or and modern CPU sockets. Now they won't let you take off the shelf mobo's, video cards, etc and let you assemble a computer but you can certainly build one.

    4. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 1

      I don't think Radio Shack was about "building computers" as it was about "building radios". I don't remember motherboards and related parts in there, but coax cable, crimping tools, and bare electronic parts for hobbying and the ham radio crowd.

      So, the founder passed on, the new public company thought it was all a bunch of nerdy junk and wanted to rub shoulders with Microsoft and Verizon, while refusing to notice that Best Buy going up across the street. All the Hams, non-cable-TV-people, kids interested in electronics, and people adding electronics to their cars went on to the Internet or gave up on the hobby.

      Radio Shack could survive, but the market transitions to cell phones, cable TV, and integrated automobile electronics makes it unlikely it would be more than a niche vendor - like the places that sell musical instruments, billiards equipment, and other focused hobby retailers.

      --
      Sleep is for the Weak
    5. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by typical · · Score: 1

      There aren't enough geeks.

      My take on Radio Shack:

      * They have small stores, so whatever it is that they sell, they can't have many choices compared to a place like Circuit City or Best Buy. Sometimes this is okay -- I just bought their top-of-the-line cordless phone, because it's a really good cordless phone.

      * They are one of the few national franchises out there where I find that people still seem to have some degree of domain knowledge. I have only a little EE knowledge, just enough to like to solder things together and play with simple devices, and when I asked last about why there was an audio and linear version of a pot, the guy quickly started to describe response curves. That, I thought, was pretty cool.

      * They have relatively expensive store locations -- Best Buy stores are usually out of town, where land is cheap. Radio Shacks are usually in malls.

      * They sell things that can only apply to an extremely limited market. How many people need banana clips or prototyping boards? Sure, many Slashdotters love 'em, but how much money does that work out to? I'll bet even most people here spend more on consumer electronics than components.

      The problem with this is that they have little space, and high costs.

      I'd be sad to see them go, but honestly, a lot of people who would have been electronics hobbyists thirty years ago are now computer hobbyists...

      All the other junk is just overpriced whats-its, like speaker wire.

      They have a pretty hefty markup on that (it's just that if you're making one hobby instance of a project, components are generally so cheap that you don't care).

      --
      Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
    6. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by TClevenger · · Score: 1
      I wish they'd stick to their guns and sell stuff like circuit boards, toggle switches, fuses, diodes, and solder. Maybe remote controlled cars and some audio / visual equipment, too.

      Agreed. The last three times I've gone in looking for fairly common electronic components, they either didn't stock them or didn't know what I was talking about. They've gone away from their core market, and are now dedicating two-thirds of their store to stuff that people don't go to Radio Shack to buy (cell phones, Internet service), stuff that people would rather have in a mainstream brand (TV's, audio, computers) and stuff that people will buy at Walmart for half the price (batteries).

    7. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by zerocool^ · · Score: 1


      Yeah, but... I mean, geeks are a less percentage of the total population, but the population is growing... if there's a nationwide chain of make-your-own stuffed teddy bear stores, you'd think there'd be a place for ham radio and DIY electronics.

      I guess the intarwebs pwned them, though. You wouldn't want to buy a teddy bear from ebay without cuddling it, or something, i guess, but all 100 mini-farad caps are going to be the same.

      --
      sig?
    8. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by XO · · Score: 1

      i doubt that the population of electronics geeks is growing, more like falling -rapidly-. A mini-farad? hahahaha

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    9. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by XO · · Score: 2, Informative

      People DO go to radioshack to buy cell phones. Internet service, not so much.
      TV, audio all RCA, Magnavox, Sony, Samsung. Which brand isn't mainstream?

      Computers are all Compaq.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    10. Re:News: There's a new CEO with a tough job.... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      In all of my local Radio Shack's they don't even have one 8085 or similar processor nor can you get modern ones there let alone the other parts you'd need. How ya gunna build one now?? NewEgg I guess or maybe a mom and pop computer shop.

      --

      Gorkman

  14. Two stores left in the mall. by cdtoad · · Score: 0

    Now that RadioShack is going down the tubes the only store left will be GNC. I don't get it. Zero foot traffic at all the local malls and these two hang on like Yoko Ono to dead beatles!

    --
    when they ban enctryption only criminals wi$21*J *#JF$%!@#$':
  15. They stopped all the cool stuff. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I personally find little reason to go to RadioShack much anyways, they no longer have as much as the stuff I really wanted. Things like Audio and Video Adapters and cables are getting more and more slim, There IC selection is becoming non-existance. I can't find things like a basic Cable Tuner, Null Modem adapters and other adapters. When you walk in there are TVs Surround sound systems, Cell Phones, as their primary which I could get a better choices at a Circuit City, Best Buy, Rex, etc... stuff heck I had to hunt around until I could find a basic calculator. People go to radio shack for hand made electronics and custom configuration of their technology. I should be able to go in there and easily find a Stereo Splitter. So my old 5 speaker Surround sound system for my computer will work on my normal Stereo TV with all the speaker for 4 speaker Stereo. Or If I need a Cable Tuner to get an Old TiVo working like new again they should have some in stock. That use to be Radioshack value add. People may stop in once in a while to get Computers, Cellphones, or TVs for the bulk to their profit but the small stuff keeps many of the more technical people coming back and get the low end stuff and perhaps they will get an other High Margin product in the future.
    Also customer service has went to crap. While they are friendly and everything, when it comes to ask about stuff in the far corner like Is there any RJ45 Connectors aka Cat 5 connectors, I will get a Blank Stare. In the old days the people were far more knowable about all the products then just the top sellers.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    1. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by himself · · Score: 1

      jellomizer wrote:
      >
      > I personally find little reason to go to RadioShack much anyways,
      > they no longer have as much as the stuff I really wanted.
      >
            Hey now, I go there every few months because they sell replacement foam covers for my earphones & cell phone earbud (which I always seem to tear somehow). And they also have...uh...alkaline batteries?

    2. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by Billosaur · · Score: 1
      Also customer service has went to crap. While they are friendly and everything, when it comes to ask about stuff in the far corner like Is there any RJ45 Connectors aka Cat 5 connectors, I will get a Blank Stare. In the old days the people were far more knowable about all the products then just the top sellers.

      You've got questions... We don't have a clue!

      --
      GetOuttaMySpace - The Anti-Social Network
    3. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by Secrity · · Score: 1

      Me too I only go to Radio Shack when I have to. I have started looking items at radioshack.com before I go to the store so that I know what Radio Shack calls the item and I have the catalog number. Beyond the cell phones and a few other common things, the people in the store have NO idea what the items in the store are called, hell, many of them don't even speak English. The people in various RS stores didn't have a clue about a video selector switch or a cigarette lighter power plug (catalog number 270-1509). I was frustrated at a RS clerk who told me that I was stupid because she had no idea what an XLR connector is; the result was that I was permanantly barred from that RS because I flipped a cable onto the counter and walked out of the store. When I went back to the store the next day to complain about the clerks's attitude, the store manager told me to get out of his store because I had been "throwing things" in HIS store.

      In a small town recently, I went to an authorized RS dealer (which was also a craft and gift store) to get some audio cables and noticed that the prices on the RS items seemed even higher than I remember. I compared the prices of a few items with the RS catalog on the counter and found that the in-store prices were about 10 to 25% higher than the RS catalog prices. The Radio Shack owned stores that I have been to charged the same price as in the catalog. I asked the clerk about the price differences, she told me that the catalog prices were mail order prices and that store prices were higher because of shipping. I found the cables that I needed for $1 each at a nearby dollar store.

    4. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by XO · · Score: 1

      the "authorised dealer" can sell for whatever price they like. They are a franchise. The company stores have a price that is consistent across the entire nation, and is averaged out to include the various costs that apply to everywhere.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    5. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by Secrity · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I know. Other than the ridiculous prices my problem was that the reason that I was given for the price differences was a lie.

    6. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by jafac · · Score: 1

      About the ONLY thing you seem to be able to get from Radio Shack (that you can't get anywhere else, and I mean ANYWHRE) - are those little PRAM batteries for the motherboard on Macintoshes.

      Everything else they have, I can pretty much find elsewhere. Usually for less money, and without having to report a false set of personal information (name address, etc.).

      --

      These are my friends, See how they glisten. See this one shine, how he smiles in the light.
    7. Re:They stopped all the cool stuff. by XO · · Score: 1

      one of the things that sucks about the whole nationwide price deal, is that the highest volume of merchandise sold out of the place, in the entire company, is also the most expensive place to get stuff to: Puerto Rico.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  16. Best Thing For Radio Shack by ellem · · Score: 1

    A buyout by a Best Buy or whatever and a web presence for transistors and electronic kits.

    Let's face it even their name is dated.

    It's over.

    --
    This .sig is fake but accurate.
    1. Re:Best Thing For Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe, but I don't want an extended warranty on every adapter and cable that I buy.

    2. Re:Best Thing For Radio Shack by DesireCampbell · · Score: 1

      Actually, RadioShach has been bought out by Circut City in Canada - they're called "the Source: by Circut City" now. Same store, new name, same idiot employees.

      --
      Whoo, signature!
      DesireCampbell.com
    3. Re:Best Thing For Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is wrong with their brand name? You want them to be Video Storhouse? I think you are a little too harsh.

    4. Re:Best Thing For Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Canada all the Radio Shacks in the GTA dunno about nation wide turned into the the Source(by Circut City)

    5. Re:Best Thing For Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in fact Radio Shack Canada was a mostly independant operation, only paying Tandy Corp. for the use of the Radio Shack name. The sellout to Circuit City included the clause which gave Tandy Corp. the Radio Shack name in Canada and allowed Tandy back into the Canadian market.

  17. compensation by PrinceAshitaka · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know what he is walking away with after driving his company into the ground? The article doesn't say and google isn't being much help either.

    --
    quis custodiet ipsos custodes
    1. Re:compensation by unitron · · Score: 1
      "Does anyone know what he is walking away with after driving his company into the ground? The article doesn't say and google isn't being much help either."

      He isn't walking away, they gave him the bun's rush, both because he ran it into the ground and because he lied about having a couple of college degrees that he didn't have, one of which aparently is a degree not even offered by the institution he says he got it from.

      --

      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

    2. Re:compensation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "He isn't walking away, they gave him the bun's rush, both because he ran it into the ground and because he lied about having a couple of college degrees that he didn't have, one of which aparently is a degree not even offered by the institution he says he got it from."

      So 15-20 mil your saying?

    3. Re:compensation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another article (on yahoo news) said he was getting "less than a million" in severance. Which tells you nothing as zero is less than a million.

  18. Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by CRCulver · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's interesting and more than a little depressing to see just how greatly Radio Shack has changed in the past ten years. In 1995 I got my amateur radio license. Everyone knew that Radio Shack's license exam preparation materials, done by one Gordon West, were rubbish that taught people how to pass a test without understanding any of the concepts between it. That's why I ordered the ARRL's dependable guide Now You're Talking from another store (check the book out if you are looking for an interesting hobby, it's also in many libraries). But Radio Shack was incredibly helpful for providing all the parts one needed to build little projects. Whenever I found an interesting project in the ham magazine QST, such as an audio amplifier or a QRP kit, I knew Radio Shack would provide the materials.

    But now, things have changed, there's hardly more than a couple of soldering irons for sale in the back of a Radio Shack today. The hobby of tinkering with electronics is no longer profitable for a retail store, possibly due to the decline of amateur radio. Hams today order what they need from the Internet or the catalogues that a few specialty stores like to spam technophiles with. Instead, Radio Shack has decided to entirely focus on consumer electronics. But it can't win there either, larger stores like Best Buy or Circuit City will always have a better selection. I can't really see any way for this company to survive.

    1. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by xtracto · · Score: 1

      I do not know but, one of the main reasons those kind of stores survive in my country (Mexico) is by selling replacement parts. Of course, in Mexico people will try to fix their blender machine 200 times before buying a new one and, compared to the USA, in Mexico we belive your motto is something like "USandThrow" as whenever something is broken in some way, people only throw it.

      I know one of the main reasons of this is the wages, as it may be more expensive to pay someone to fix something than to buy it new. But our electronic shops (the main one is called Steren, our RadioShacks are just telephones & gadgets sellers) sell a lot of electric/electronic components to electronic technicians who make a living fixing house electronic appliances.

      As a funny example, my father bought a TV in 1985 or something, it was a really big CRT tv (do not remember the actual size), we move from the west of the country to the east, and he take it with him. it was not until 2002 that we changed it for a Sony Wega (darn Sony), anyway, the old TV suffered from a lighting blast, and it got fixed, then it suffered from a 220 volts current blast (the electric supplier company technicians connected 220v instead of 110v which is normal in Mexico) and it got fixed again and I could go on...

      Of course all those spare parts where bought at these electronic shops

      --
      Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
    2. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by NixieBunny · · Score: 1

      I lived in Mexico 30 years ago, and was very impressed with the ability of the locals to fix things. I'm glad to hear that it's still done that way there. I was thinking of that problem the other day as I resoldered the video output connector on my DVD player that cost me $50. It would have been garbage if I wasn't a competent electronics repair person, since there's no way I would have paid a shop $50 to fix it, and that's what they all charge! It was five minutes of work.

      --
      The determined Real Programmer can write Fortran programs in any language.
    3. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by Cheeze · · Score: 1

      I understand your point, but there's almost nothing in a blender to fix with parts from Radio Shack.

      --
      Why read the article when I can just make up a snap judgement?
    4. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by typical · · Score: 1

      Modern blenders have an IC and buttons and wires and so forth. They aren't purely mechanical like the old things.

      --
      Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
    5. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by xtracto · · Score: 1

      There is, a switch. A lot of times the switches are the ones that go bad in those kind of things as they are the movable parts.

      In the same way, I recently moved to a new appartment (I am in UK now) which had some used furniture as a friend just left it. There was a coffee machine there, after 2 or three morning uses the machine switch broke, unfortunately there is no way to find a spare part on England (I think it is worse here than in USA), I will now wait for my next travel to Mexico and get a spare switch to fix it, until then, the cables are joined togheter and I use the switch in the wall.

      --
      Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'
    6. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Maplin (http://maplin.co.uk/ still has a pretty good range I think.

      Rich

    7. Re:Radio Shack and the decline of amateur radio by Cheeze · · Score: 1

      Maybe, but the electronics in them aren't the type of electronics you'd find in Radio Shack. There's not much else besides a voltage regulator, a multi-position switch, and a power toggle (if you have one with the burst).

      oh, and a motor, but good luck finding one of those at Radio Shack that would fit inside the blender and would work at the required voltage/amperage.

      that's my point, they might have some of the parts, but you'd be better finding a real electronics store that specializes in selling only bare electronics.

      --
      Why read the article when I can just make up a snap judgement?
  19. No chance by drgonzo59 · · Score: 2, Informative

    My friend worked for RadioShack and he said the whole business model of RadioShack is crap and is obsolete. When before they were _the_ specialty electronics store, now they make most of their money off of overpriced batteries and cell phone plans. The savy geeks who would have gone there before to buy electronic parts, now get them cheaper from the Web, and the average consumers just go to places like Best Buy, CircuitCity and others where they have a larger selection of equipment. The last time I went to RS was 6 years ago to get some thermal paste for my heatsinks, and the idiot saleman didn't even know what it was, I had to go through the shelves and find it myself (I suspected they had it somewhere). That's the last time I bought anything from them. I am sure other "electronically inclined" geeks here probably have a similar story...

    1. Re:No chance by tinkerghost · · Score: 1

      As a former employee -3 no 4 times I think - their business model is fairly simple -
      Residuals on subscription purchases - Comcast, Verizon, Sprint, Direct TV etc.
      High margins on accessories - batteries, cables, adapters
      Low margins on core - TV's, Stereo EQ, PCs.
      Items like a battery have 300-500% markup on them. A TV will show about 5-12% profit margin if it's not on sale - Sales are actually a frequent loss on the big items.
      The goal is to sell at least 2 accessories with any purchase - sell a TV, try to do a remote,batteries, and if possible, a home theater system.
      Surprisingly, in order to stay employed there you have to take a test relating to all the little bits in the back, but I have worked with 2 managers who couldn't tell you what rosin core solder is.

    2. Re:No chance by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      High margins on accessories - batteries, cables, adapters

      Just a little too high, or they might not be in trouble...

      I don't mind paying a little extra to get an adaptor/cable/tool/power supply/etc... at a convienient location up the street. The key word there is "little". Radio Shack has passed the pricepoint where it's worth driving the extra distance to a larger discount store to get what I need instead of shelling out the few extra bucks to get it near by.

      When it's $45 for a 6' firewire cable that I need *right now*, for example, at Radio Shack, I'm inclined to drive to Framingham (20 Miles) to get the cable at CompUSA and use the $40 I have left over to go out to dinner. Somewhere between the 100% markup and the 1000% markup is where they lost me.

  20. what is radioshack? by skynare · · Score: 1

    what is this radioshack thing? is shaquille o'neal taking over it?

    1. Re:what is radioshack? by dtsazza · · Score: 1

      I'm not really sure, but judging by the above comments it's not the Shack that the B52's were singing about...

      --
      My, that was a yummy potato!
    2. Re:what is radioshack? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 1

      what is this radioshack thing? is shaquille o'neal taking over it?

      No. Rogers won.

      --
      May the Maths Be with you!
  21. Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you nuts? People are too busy being at the mall or watching TV to do anything by themselves. Tinkering has become the pastime of penny pinchers and weirdos who can't or don't want to do what a good citizen does: CONSUME!

    Let's face it. Making stuff yourself gets out of fashion. Remember, kids, only commies make stuff themselves, a good consumer buys it!

    --
    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    1. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tinkering has become the pastime of penny pinchers and weirdos

            And terrorists! Let's not forget the terrorists...

      --
      Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
    2. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1, Funny

      Remember, kids, only commies make stuff themselves, a good consumer buys it!

      I didn't know MacGyver was a commie...

      --
      This guy's the limit!
    3. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Otter · · Score: 1
      As likable as angry, sarcastic snobbery is, I think you're off base on this one. Nowadays, "tinkering" is something you do at (or inside) your computer. The gap between individual components and consumer-level devices is so huge that kids today are about as likely to solder capacitors as you and I were to make them ourselves out of clay and carcinogens.

      There isn't enough time in the day for Linux and soldering...

    4. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      I realize your entire post is obviously tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, this attitude exists. If it weren't for tinkerers, there would be no Apple Computer, no HP, no Ford Motor Company, no Eastman Kodak, no Xerox -- these are all massive global companies that were started by tinkerers and inventors, yet, we can barely imagine a world in which the tinkerers who started them never began their creations.

    5. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Octorian · · Score: 1

      That's true... At the beginning of my senior year of high school, I thought I had reached the apex (given my current interests and environment) with new tinkering (and buying parts) in the computer department. As such, I went big-time into electronics and microcontroller stuff.

      Once I got to college, I discovered whole new worlds of computer tinkering, and the soldering iron went back into the toolbox.

      Since then, I've been trying to juggle back and forth between the two, but computers always still get the vast majority of my time.

    6. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Let's face it. Making stuff yourself gets out of fashion. Remember, kids, only commies make stuff themselves, a good consumer buys it!

      You do realize that "commies" were more of a threat in the 70's and 80's. *coughgoldenageofhomebrewcough*

    7. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah! After all, you don't get those suicide bombs at Best Buy!

      So being able to make something yourself could soon put you on some black list. After all, those who can invariably also do!

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    8. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The US were also founded by a bunch of separatists who didn't want to play within the rules of the British Empire. Today such behaviour would be viewed as a threat to global economy and as terrorism. Just because it was cool earlier doesn't necessarily mean it's cool today.

      The same applies to tinkering and prodding at items to look what makes them tick. Yes, that invariably means that our inspiration for new inventions grinds to a halt. We all consume, but we don't create anymore. Worse yet, we'll soon face legal problems should we dare to try to take our stuff apart and re-create it. What works for Software can work just as well for "Hardware".

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    9. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      How DARE you come up with logic when I'm venting against commies?

      Oh, I know, you must be a terrorist.

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    10. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, the problem is that the gap between "what you can do at home" and "what's useful" has opened up tremenduously. 20 years ago you could actually, given a few parts and lots of time, build your own computer, and it wouldn't be TOO much behind an off the shelf computer. You could probably even use the same software.

      Today, even if you did get all the necessary ICs, you could not create the prints at home (or, rather, most people couldn't), you can't solder them in (unless you have very special equipment), you simply cannot build a computer at home anymore.

      What you can do is buy the parts and put them together. It's kinda like the (new) Lego. The NEW Lego, where you get like 10 parts that "need some assembly". Not the good, old one, that let you build what YOU wanted to build.

      Yes, today we can still "tinker" at least on our software. I just fear that this is going to be over very soon, too. And I kinda don't think it will take another 20 years until this is gone as well, and we're relegated to consumer status on our computers, with little chance to ever become any more than that.

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    11. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      The geeks who generations ago would be making things with transistors are today programming things on their computers.

    12. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by 27B-6 · · Score: 1
      Let's face it. Making stuff yourself gets out of fashion. Remember, kids, only commies make stuff themselves, a good consumer buys it!

      And since most of our consumer goods seem to be made in China, we buy it from communists. Oh the delicious irony.
      --
      "Trust in haste. Repent at leisure"
    13. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by tazan · · Score: 1

      I'm one of the tinkerers. The problem is I can buy a tube of 15 chips off the internet for the same price as I can buy 1 chip in their store, if they even stock it.

    14. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Are you nuts? People are too busy being at the mall or watching TV to do anything by themselves. Tinkering has become the pastime of penny pinchers and weirdos who can't or don't want to do what a good citizen does: CONSUME!

      Let's face it. Making stuff yourself gets out of fashion. Remember, kids, only commies make stuff themselves, a good consumer buys it!
      Interesting argument, but you're forgetting the beauty of economies of scale.

      In a lot of cases, purchasing ready-made items will take less time and cost less money than making it yourself because the manufacturer has the proper tools, buys raw materials in massive quantities, and has an assembly line.

      In addition, some products, like appliances and electronics, were probably designed by professionals that are more skilled than you, so the store-bought product is probably safer and more efficient than anything you could make yourself. Their product may have also been inspected by some regulatory group, to make sure the original designers didn't overlook anything. Getting your own products inspected in this manner would cost a fortune, and it would be foolish because you've only got one of whatever it is your were making (you make up for the cost of this inspection by making tons of them). So in a lot of cases, it actually makes sense to just buy the product at the store and spend your time and extra money doing something else...

      ... Unless, of course, making things is something you enjoy (not just a means to an end), and you don't mind the additional costs of doing what you love.


      On a completely unrelated note, the Magic Word(TM) I have to type to convince Slashdot that I'm not a robot is "urinates". LOL!
    15. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Otter · · Score: 1
      Well, the problem is that the gap between "what you can do at home" and "what's useful" has opened up tremenduously.

      Sure, that's precisely what I meant by "The gap between individual components and consumer-level devices is so huge..." When I was eight, I built a crystal radio (with parts from Radio Shack!) that, frankly, wasn't much worse than the AM radio on my alarm clock today. And I understood pretty much how it worked.

      Kids today can't make their own Tivo from a pile of parts. What they can make it from is an old PC, a Linux CD and MythTV, which is what "tinkering" means nowadays.

    16. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      And that isn't sad?

      So "tinkering" isn't anymore "buy some generic parts and start working out a way to put them together", it's "Take the pre-modeled pieces and slap them together where the manual tells you".

      It's the same sad road Lego went. Just on another topic.

      Isn't it sad that we don't want to "work" for our success anymore? What we want is a cheap rush of success, not the hard work towards it. If it doesn't show some great progress within minutes or hours, dump it for something that does.

      Or, better, just stop "wasting" your time and buy a complete set.

      Frankly, that is sad.

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    17. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      An iron is not special equipment.

      A toaster oven is not special equipment.

      SOIC chips and 1206 parts are easy to deal with, while SSOP and 0805 take a little dexterity. If you can make the jump to SMD, you'll find a new world of tinkering opens up to you. Best of all, no more drilling!

      Just don't sneeze, a $100 of parts could disappear.

    18. Re:Making stuff yourself??? by mrbnsn · · Score: 1

      http://www.pad2pad.com/

      You can design your computer at home, and have someone build it to order.

      Even better, if you ask me.

  22. Does this finally mean... by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 1

    ...that I have to take the "Bikini Inspector (1993-1998)" entry off of my resume? But its such a conversation starter!

    --
    Who did what now?
    1. Re:Does this finally mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bikini inspector you could take or leave...

      However, if it said Bikini *line* inspector - now that's a different story.

    2. Re:Does this finally mean... by unitron · · Score: 0
      "Bikini Inspector (1993-1998)"

      Let me guess, the job was made obsolete by the internet?

      --

      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  23. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Himring · · Score: 4, Informative

    You must not work much with technology in a tactile fashion. Radio Shack is irreplacable in most mid-sized to small towns wherein it is the only place you can walk in and purchase certain eletronic parts to complete projects. Where else can you view and select from a wide choice of project boxes in a store front? Sure, there are tv repair shops and the like, but they do not special in the retail sales of these parts, and even if they do have it you'll pay an arm and a leg. This says nothing of such things as batteries for watches and the like. Walmart, Office Depot, Staples ... they will carry only the most popularly used battery watches. You'll most likely have to order online or from the company for the rest. But you can walk into a radio shack and get the same thing right away without waiting or paying for shipping.

    You may read and post on /., but I doubt you're much of a geek beyond that....

    --
    "All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
  24. Re:Hmm.. (LINK) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    As usual, the /. article is very low on relevant links. Here is the article about this fucktard admiting lying.

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11388447/

    He is paid >1.4M$ per year, and will probably get that as its package.

    Bastard.

  25. The internet claims another victim by 99luftballon · · Score: 1

    In the type of business Radio Shack is/was running then the internet was bound to hurt it. Buying components from a store is beset with problems of supply and demand - people want exactly what they need and they want it now. From a stock control standpoint this is incredibly difficult to do on a store by store level.

    When people had no choice before the internet people had to make do and wait for parts to come into stock. Now it's easier to source most of the parts online and usually cheaper. The company's web site is also a pain in the neck to use.

    It's a pity in a way because a lot of my friends considered Radio Shack an essential part of growing up and developing their knowledge of technology. But in this free market world it's adapt or die.

    1. Re:The internet claims another victim by Darth+Maul · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't blame this on the IntarWeb. Radio Shack is to blame. They switched from a place where you could actually buy parts to build your own radio to a place where you get cell phone plans shoved at you. Me: "Hi, can you show me where you keep the PNP transistors?". Them: "Sure, here's a great cell phone!".

      I feel sorry for kids today. I don't know what I would be doing now if I didn't have the local Radio Shack up the street that I could walk to and buy all the circuit parts I needed for my projects...

      --
      --- witty signature
  26. with a little help from my friends? by marco_craveiro · · Score: 3, Funny

    you know, just the other day I was browsing Linux Today and somehow i found myself reading the ever useful "get the facts" ad (right-hand corner). one of success stories was "RadioShack Saves Millions of Dollars by Choosing Windows Over Linux". and now there's a 62% drop in fourth quarter net income. yet another company "helped" by microsoft, methinks... :-D

    1. Re:with a little help from my friends? by tumutbound · · Score: 1

      Ah yes! I remember the good old days at Radio Shack (Tandy) when, prior to the first release of Windows,
      they used to run a full page ad with Bill Gates telling the world that in developing an advanced operating system like Windows
      (his words, not mine), MS had to rely on the Tandy 2000 the most powerful MS-DOS system available.
      They've fallen a long way from the days when the stock price used go upwards.

    2. Re:with a little help from my friends? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've noticed the Linux Reference Center over there has been downsized recently. Looks like it might be trimmed even a bit more over the next week or two.

  27. Educaton is not always that important. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The reason why they probably never checked his education is because It was not not the most important part of his Resume. In real life Education is only a minor factor, especially when you get more experience. When you are staring out Education is a major factor because you don't have much to go on. But when you go further it becomes less important, unless you plan to switch paths, like say you have a BS and you want to get into management so you get an MBA. That way you can show the hirers that you are not just a Tech Egg Head and you have some business knowledge as well. But If you were able to work your way up in a company with a GED and proved yourself valuable (Bill Gates never graduated from college) then you could be work more then a person with degrees up to the kazoo. Sometimes I see people who may Flash their PHD in Engineering at me to show how smart they are, except they call me to fix the problem with their primary program when windows is putting up a little bubble on the screen saying you have loss network connection. So I tell them the program doesn't work without a network connection, then they just flash their degrees at me.
    In Business degrees and education usually says the person was able to stick it out for at least 2,4,6,8 years and get a degree and they have the building blocks to learn to do the job. But when you start getting experience then that counts for so much more.
    As for Lying about your education what that does is makes it easy to fire you for lying on your Resume if they don't want you. But they are not going to take the effort and check it unless they need a good reason.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    1. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      When you are "staring" out, you kneed too lern howe too spel rite.

    2. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by TFGeditor · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I deeply regret that the parent was modded "Funny." The post is insightfully correct, but it fails to point up the larger underlying principle: discrimination.

      I was a test-engineering consultant for 20-odd years to companies such as Lockheed, Motorola and TI defense divisions, Dell, and so on. At the time, I was one of the top ten people in my (admittedly narrow/specialized) field in the U.S.

      Yet, not one of those companies would have hired me as an employee to do the *exact* same work they hired me to do as a consultant because I did not have a degree. I never attended high school, but did get a GED.

      (Side note: Tandy was one of my clients in the 1980s and 90s. Every Tandy computer manufactured in the U.S. was production tested with software I wrote and on apparatus I designed and built.)

      When I burned out in that field, I switched careers and entered writing/journalism, eventually becomming a magazine editor (circ. ~100k)--still on a contactor/consultant basis. Yet, I'd be hard put to land even a proofreading job as an employee because I am "uneducated."

      I hold that this is an unrecognized/unacknowleged form of discrimination and bigotry. Experience and ability should be the primary--if not only--criteria in hiring, not race, sex or orientation thereof--or education.

      --
      Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.
    3. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is this "up to the kazoo" you speak of?

    4. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gee, you don't have a chip on your shoulder or anything. Perhaps because the PHDs you mention are too busy studying things that you, who does not have a college education, could never do. They are also getting paid much more than you because your skill level, being able to fix network connections, is something that a kid in high school can do.

      You can continue to sit on your high horse and keep changing my oil and running cat 5 cable as a lowly tech support peon. I'll work less hours on cooler projects for more money.

      Maybe you can learn job skills after being employed for a long time, but people with an education get a higher starting salary because they already have a skillset.

      GG.

    5. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by NialScorva · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I never got a degree, and I'm now a contractor who does very quick turnaround solutions for a customer who needs very specialized and unusual tools (software and hardware). It's very interesting and technical work requiring a fair breadth of knowledge, and there's no room for incompetency (4 man team, combined 70 years of experience). I think I've done quite well for myself.

      I say that not to brag (well, maybe a little), but more to drive the point home when I say that a college degree is a very important part of your resume. Practical experience in IT has a hard time truly capturing the theory aspects of what you are doing. Too often it's a "make it work" world where you have enough understanding to navigate the dialogues in windows without understanding why the network is the way it is. How often will you have practical experience in compilers, operating systems, or assembly language from working experience? Yet all of those skills are extremely valuable to be a good software person. The most important thing about formal education is that it exposes you to things that you may not need right away, but later down the road may be useful. I spent a days researching just to find that the algorithm I needed for one problem was a "weighted connected component", and most of that was just in finding the right term to search for. If I had taken a junior level graph theory class, I would have been exposed to it.

      You mock the engineers who flash their degrees at you when you fix their network. Does their job entail fixing their network connections? If there's a mess on the floor, I could clean it myself but I'm more likely to call the janitors. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of really compentent people without degrees. There exists a few of them who are wildly successful. The other 90% of people won't be competent or successful, though, and a most of the remaining would be more competent and successful with a formal education.

    6. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by datacaliber · · Score: 1

      Why was the parent modded funny? Am I missing something?

    7. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft, Oracle... hmmmmm yeah keep telling us how shiny and successful that diploma makes you feel.

    8. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hold that this is an unrecognized/unacknowleged form of discrimination and bigotry. Experience and ability should be the primary--if not only--criteria in hiring, not race, sex or orientation thereof--or education.

      Whoa. Race, sex, nationality, and so forth are entirely separate from education since they're what the person is. Unless you're Michael Jackson or a eunuch, you can't change those things and its rightly illegal to discriminate on those lines (AA quotas aside). Education is something you CAN change. It shows an employer that you set your mind to a goal and stuck it out until you got your degree, learning relevant info and getting liberal arts education along the way. 40-50 years ago, you could walk out of high school and land a decent manufacturing job or other such gig with the right hookup. Today, the deck is stacked against you if you follow that route, unless you're heading for a trade school or to the service sector.

      --
      Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
    9. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by vertinox · · Score: 1

      When you are "staring" out, you kneed too lern howe too spel rite.

      Dude! He is the one giving the job interview. The last thing you'd want to do is point out his spelling mistakes.

      --
      "I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
    10. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by vertinox · · Score: 1

      Perhaps because the PHDs you mention are too busy studying things that you, who does not have a college education, could never do.

      Personally, I'm split about higher education. I would love to get a PHD in Physics, but I wouldn't use that to get a job. Why? Because I want to get that to better understand how the universe works and not flash it to get a job.

      Secondly, it appears that corporations wish to make their employees do more than just what they are hired to do. Even if I had a degree in Quantum Physics, it would be my really benefit me to understand basic computer skills.

      Lets say I need to do research on a project I have a deadline on Friday. Unfortunatley, the network is down in our office and I'm getting that error above. Well I call our tech which our company outsourced to india and they say they can come out next monday to fix it.

      Now I can either try to fix it myself or wait til monday missing my friday deadline (which I will get blamed for anyones).

      Yes this is an extreme and unlikley situation, but today's workforce requires people to do more than their specialty. They need to learn new skills on the fly and do things they never thought they would be doing in College.

      --
      "I am the king of the Romans, and am superior to rules of grammar!"
      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
    11. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends, as a high functioning austic the education system is damn hard for me (I would say impossible). The educational system in the US is totally screwed up for people like me. Too social and too dependant on work that is nothing more than "busy work" and rote memorization.

      I dropped out of HS and home schooled while I went to college. College was better than HS but it's still the stupid educational system so I only stand it long enough to finish a 2 year AS (CS) degree.

      Now the problem comes in when I try to get work. People hire me because they think they can pay me less because of my degree when in fact I'm one of the top programmers in the world. That pisses me off to no end. I end up doing 100+k/yr (in my area area) work for 40k/yr.

      So I quit working for The Man and started my own company. Now I'm making the money I deserve and nobody even checks my educational background when they hire me on a contract. It's totally bizarre. It's like the grandparent was saying, I'm doing jobs they would never hire me for if I tried to get a job at the company, but they will pay me 3 times as much to do it as a contractor because they know I kick ass. Doesn't make any sense and is totally discriminatory.

    12. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Sen.NullProcPntr · · Score: 1
      I think part of it is belonging to "the club". Some bosses have the mentality of "I spent all that time and effort getting an education so I won't reward someone who didn't by hiring them".

      My past boss (left just before a big layoff) probably would never have hired me based on my (lack of) education. He had a PhD and tended to only hire M.S.** (this was EE work but an M.S. Computer Science could get you hired) or B.S.** actively working toward M.S.**. Performance reviews were heavily weighted to how many courses/seminars you attended over the past year (some would consider this a plus but I am able to do my job with the knowledge that I already have along with a little web/book searching when needed).

    13. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by saleenS281 · · Score: 1

      That'd be great in a perfect world. In the REAL world, exactly what criteria would you base your screening process on if not education? The amount of time wasted finding out just how good everyone's "real world experiences" are would be enough of an HR money waster alone to defeat the idea. Not to mention, to some companies/bosses, real world experience isn't a good thing, it's bad habits they have to break you of.

    14. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1

      Experience and ability should be the primary--if not only--criteria in hiring, not race, sex or orientation thereof--or education.

      Being credible is another. While I won't the value of experience vs. education, that a CEO would fabricate an important personnel document makes me wonder about if anything else is fabricated eg the financial statements investors use to determine value of a company.

      This is not just about merit, but also about credibility and trustworthiness, both of which are also important attributes for a CEO in an era of Tyco and Enron.

      --

      --
      $tar -xvf .sig.tar
    15. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by yoprst · · Score: 1

      This isn't a perfect world. People are hired by unqualified recruiters who use what they can (degrees/keywords matching) instead of tests. Since neither you nor me are willing to start a recruiting business to provide a quality recruiting service, that's how it's gonna be. Not many slashdotters dreamed of becoming a recruiter since their childhood, after all...This isn't discrimination.

    16. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Perl-Pusher · · Score: 1
      Now the problem comes in when I try to get work. People hire me because they think they can pay me less because of my degree when in fact I'm one of the top programmers in the world.

      Who would have thunk it? An "anonymous coward" claiming to be one of the world best programmers. I would pay you less just because you made that statement.

    17. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And by the way, I didn't learn a damn thing in HS or college. The stuff they taught me in the computer science classes I had already learned when I was like 10 years old.

      I remember in the days before I dropped out of HS they started a programming class at my school. This was the first chance I had ever had to take a computer course in school (this is back in the 80's). It was a special class and I had to show some example programming work to get in. I remember handing the teacher the printout of a BBS I had written that was like 10k lines of code and was a huge stack of paper. The teacher couldn't even comprehend what it was. They let me in the class but I dropped it after a few weeks when I realized it was nothing more than a "how to turn on your computer" type class (was suppose to be programming dammit!). Most teachers are idiots with no connection to real life anyway. Just like most of the other classes I had taken, I knew more than the teacher.

      If I didn't have socializing problems I would have been running those classes at school. :(

    18. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by etheriel · · Score: 1

      what's the Deal with the Random capitalization of Letters?

    19. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I spent a days researching just to find that the algorithm I needed for one problem was a "weighted connected component", and most of that was just in finding the right term to search for. If I had taken a junior level graph theory class, I would have been exposed to it.


      And you would have spent an entire semester in that class to be "exposed" to it...
    20. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea who I am and you have no idea about the things I have worked on so you have no right to say. That's why I need to post as AC. I am too highly regarded.

      I don't see that many people claiming to be top programmers in the world (do a Google search smartass). If you knew who I was then I could easily back up my statement. As it is, it doesn't matter because as far as I'm concerned you're anonymous as well. Also, based on the fact you work for the government doesn't leave me all that impressed. I have seen the inside of that rotted cage and only sheep would stay inside it.

      Besides, you are misquoting me. I did not say I was one of the world's best programmers. I said I was one of the world's top programmers and I didn't say how many people are at the top, what that range included, what field I'm talking about or even if "top" was good (although that was implied).

    21. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by n9uxu8 · · Score: 1

      Nope...I don't buy it. I dropped out of college mid-way to raise start a family and enjoy poverty-level wages. Through a lucky break, I managed to snag a job in a science-oriented field. I had no experience (I was looking the thing up in text books as I was driven to the interview), but can, when pressured, sell myself as an able person, so I got the job.

      For the next eight years, I came a regular "Scotty" in this particular field and was recognized for my abilities and sought after by recruiters. However, every time the bean-counters came into the picture, I had to drop what I was doing and justify my position within the company because a minimum education of XXX was required, and I did not have it.

      After a few years, I was tired of the annual bean-counter visit, so guess what I did. I went back and finished college (as it turns out finished college and then some...). Life is just that little bit nicer.

      To the point...I was never discriminated against. I could always get a job in my field by proving my abilities. The degree is just like a Fast Pass at Disneyland. No need to fight/struggle/prove myself just to get the interview. Once in the room, of course, the degree takes a seat at the side and one's knowledge/experience are what lands a job.

      Dave

    22. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

      I left highschool early, and got a GED. I did badly on the SATs, too, and did not go to college. While it is more difficult to get past the HR people, most of the jobs I've had were because of what I do, not how I did in school. While it would be nice to have a Masters in CS from CMU or MIT, I just cannot get one of those from there. I have to stand-out on other merits instead.

      --
      Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
    23. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm one of the top programmers in the world.

      Like all the other programmers out there.
      We all feel like we are the best programmer in the world because programming is much like Art, very sugestive. While we can tell the difference from a good programmer and a bad one fairly easilly. (If the program works or not, or they get stuck a lot when making a program, like many into to CS students are), I can write programs that may do the same things as an other good programmer, most likely including you. My method my be different and I may choose different tradeoffs, but still I usually can get any possible program to work if given to me and enough time allocated to it. But every programmer is like that. We could debate difference until the cows come home but like art it is sugestive. Is execution speed more important then development time, is Good User interface better then more features... we all program differently and when ever we read someone elses code we go to ourselfs this guy is nuts what is he thinking he could make it better by doing this... And I bet if I read your code, mr. Wolds best programmer I would say the same thing. I have never stood in Aw of someone elses program. Ill commend their work and effort put into it, but I have never saw some code and went gee I could never do that.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    24. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by TallMatthew · · Score: 1
      Yet, I'd be hard put to land even a proofreading job as an employee because I am "uneducated."

      Why not get a degree then? It doesn't take a high school diploma to get into community college. You can get an associate's degree there and, provided you do well, enroll at a 4-year institution to get your bachelor's. It's not that difficult to do, but it is work. You do it and this will be a non-issue.

      If you don't want to put forth the time, trouble and expense to get a degree ... well, then you shouldn't complain about people who did. It's a status thing more than a practical thing, that's true, but attaining a degree is an accomplishment and you can't claim discrimination just because you didn't do the work.

    25. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But many companies work like the government jobs do. Your pay is based on your education level and not much else. Doesn't even matter if your degree has anything to do with your job and it doesn't matter if you are good at your job. It's cut and dry simple as that. It's a stupid system.

    26. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Did that make you feel superior to compleatly ignore the point of the post and say if it is spelled wrong then it is bad, and the poster is dumb? If that is the case perhaps you should open your mide a little more.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    27. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I knew an dengineering department director who was a Texas A&M grad, and would hire ONLY other A&M grads. Is that not discrimination?

    28. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by the_rev_matt · · Score: 1

      That's not the point. The point is that he was perfectly willing to lie about his background in order to acheive his goals, what else would he lie about to the company, to investors, to the customers, etc in order to keep his cushy job? It speaks to credibility and trustworthiness.

      As an employee, don't you get pissed when you know HR/management lies to you? Don't you start to wonder what you can believe that they tell you? Same here. If it never gets found out, it probably doesn't actually matter. But once it's been revealed that an employee (at any level, not just executives) is willing to lie about something to get the job, you simply can't trust them at all.

      --
      this is getting old and so are you

      blog

    29. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by dr_turgeon · · Score: 1

      So sorry, try again. You obviously still miss the point. But it is degrading to resort to explaining the very thing that was just explained to you by GP--whom you deign to "correct."

      Focus on this: "It's a status thing more than a practical thing, that's true..."

      --
      "...objectivity resides in recognizing your preferences, subjecting them to especially harsh scrutiny." -Gould
    30. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...is much like Art, very sugestive..."

      "...but like art it is sugestive..."

      What kind of programming are you doing, and where can I get a copy? :)

      I *think* you mean -- subjective.

    31. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Programming is more than writing code. For the most part success depends on the design, understanding and knowledge. Just like engineers, architects, and other similar disciplines, there are a few extremely talented people and then there is everyone else. It takes something special to always create good designs and most people don't have what it takes (let alone having what it takes to create truly excellent designs). It takes an impressive mind and vision to hold sophisticated designs together. This is the reason why most software sucks.

      I can just about guarantee I could write better code with a better design than you could because you lack the knowledge and wisdom of my field. My field is specialized and there are only a handful of people that do what I do (there is a chance you are one of those people but it's highly unlikely). That's why I can say I'm one of the top programmers in the world. This is not a god complex, this is based on years of experience in the field working with people from all over the world. If there were an Olympics of software design and coding then I would certainly be in them. Maybe not with a gold medal, but I would be there somewhere. Are the Olympic athletes not at the top of their ranks? (even the ones that don't make finals are at the top) I train every day (as I have most of my life) to be the best programmer in the world. I'm not saying I am, but it's a constant goal.

      I'm the one that asks the questions that the "experts" can't answer and therefore have to find the answer myself. This is the reason the experts come to me for answers. I am the expert's expert.

    32. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Cthefuture · · Score: 1

      I have never stood in Aw of someone elses program. Ill commend their work and effort put into it, but I have never saw some code and went gee I could never do that.

      I'm sorry, I have been following this thread and I have to say I doubt Mr. AC is some kind of super-programmer (could be, who knows) but what you said grates on me even more.

      If you have not ever seen code that you were in awe of then you don't know software. You have not looked hard enough at the really great designs some people have come up with. This is how we learn, if you can't recognize great software then you have a long ways to go to be able to write great software. You could seriously improve yourself by being open and searching for those gems that are out there.

      What you said is like looking at Picasso, Boris, or whatever and saying "meh, I could do that". Yeah, easy to say looking at the end product...

      --
      The ratio of people to cake is too big
    33. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sorry, but you've fallen victim to the simple mind syndrome.

      if(education){
        check other credientials
      }
      else{
        roundfile resume
      }

      this kind of intellectual idiocy was surely created by a well educated, simple mind.

      i have an engineering degree and i *hated* school. but i knew back in the 80s that you had to pay to play in the simple man's world... so i paid.

      now i'm doing all i can to start my own consulting agency / business... just like you! -lol-

    34. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Education is something you can change, if you have the resources.
      Try growing up poor, dickweed!

      I borrowed all I could, got my two years, and went to work.
      And worked my butt off. Luckily, I had good mentors and was
      given good assignments. Twenty years later, it doesn't matter,
      but the first fifteen years were an ugly slog.

    35. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your search - "I am too highly retarded." - did not match any documents.

      Suggestions:

              * Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
              * Try different keywords.
              * Try more general keywords.

    36. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by tonicxt · · Score: 0

      It depends.

      The writer is pointing out that education in that context is discrimination in terms of predjudice; you are pre-judged and it is a form of ignorance. However there are arguments for and against this.

      Were a person smarter or as good as someone which holds a degree, then they could get one.

      Were a person not smart enough as someone which holds a degree, then they most likely could not get one.

      Since hiring an employee is risky and can cost a lot of money the degree is sometimes used as a threshold in terms of tangible measurement of accomplishments.

    37. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm inclined to agree with this. Public corporations are interested in appealing to their stockholders so they insist on policies of only hiring employees who have a piece of paper that says they are smart even though they are excluding people who they know are more than capable than doing the job.

        Don't confuse education with having a degree. They are very much 2 different things. However when it comes to accountability on the stock exchange, the companies that hire "educated" people want "proof" they are hiring the best people on paper.

        The higher education systems in this country, including government sponsored schools aren't going to argue with this policy considering they rake in up to 150k per student trying to get an undergrad degree at a major 4 year university. The Loan companies obviously don't have a problem with it either. Nothing better than a 5% interest rate on a massive loan that is going to take 20-30 years to get paid off.

        I think it's a giant scam. You have to "buy-in" to the system to get anything out of it. After accruing an enormous amount of debt, only then can you go forward and get a decent paying job with benefits. It's even worse for doctors and lawyers.

        30 years ago you just had to be bright. 20 years ago you just needed an undergrad degree. Now if you don't have at least a masters you're really nothing special. Education inflation continues to increase and most degrees are worthless aside from getting that crummy entry level position at corporation X that pays 35k a year.

    38. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A fellow socially challenged individual I see. Howdy moron!

    39. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by DrRobert · · Score: 1

      I disagree with this wholeheartedly. I work in a very specialized field and hiring a person without a BS in chemistry is almost completely out of the question. All professions require training and training my folks is one of the most time consuming tasks I undertake. The people who take the most time to train are the ones with years of real-world experience. All of our work involves making decisions from fundamental theory and the people with experience but no education know what buttons to push to get things done, but it is impossible to get them to design new buttons. On the other hand you can bring in well educated people with no experience and although the still require a lot of training the flow right into the process very smoothly. Admittedly there are poorly educated people with degrees and stupid people with degrees but that is what the interview process is for. For techical jobs like our there is a ton of fundamental stuff that you must know and you are not likely to "pick up" with real-world experience because it is so fundamental.

    40. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your search - "A fellow socially challenged individual I see. Howdy moron!" - did not match any documents.

      Suggestions:

              * Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
              * Try different keywords.
              * Try more general keywords.

    41. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Matthaeus · · Score: 1

      We all feel like we are the best programmer in the world because programming is much like Art, very sugestive.

      I believe the word you're looking for is subjective.

      subjective (adj):
                        1. Proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external world: a subjective decision.
                        2. Particular to a given person; personal: subjective experience.

    42. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but still I usually can get any possible program to work if given to me and enough time allocated to it.

      Uh, and monkeys can compose Mozart given enough time. That's the whole point. I could build an aircraft carrier in my backyard given enough time. Doesn't mean I have all the skills to do it right now. Skills are what make a good programmer good. Being able to do something fast and correctly is the difference between someone who knows what they are doing and someone who thinks they know what they are doing.

      Your post smacks of inexperience... or arrogance like the grandparent.

    43. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you were replying to the guy above me instead of me but just in case you didn't realize, I was sticking up for you and pointing out exactly what you just said ;)

      I hate spelling/grammar nazis who think they have something to prove to the other "educated" nerds by making empty posts that don't even address the meaning.

      As if spelling on a webforum (most browsers don't have spell check for textfields without a plugin) really means anything in business where most e-mail clients used do have spellcheck for business correspondence when it actually matters..

      The irony is delicious and obviously lost on the person who deigned it necessary to pick apart your post.

    44. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by ewrann · · Score: 1

      Rev Matt - please shoot me an email at elliotwrann AT netscape DOT net - I have a quick question for you and am not sure if my emails have gotten to you. Thx.

    45. Re:Educaton is not always that important. by drewzhrodague · · Score: 1

      Makes you wonder how Dave Thomas ever got anywhere.

      --
      Zhrodague.net - I do projects and stuff too.
  28. shock and surprise... by jeffehobbs · · Score: 1


    ...especially today, coming on the heels of their big announcement. ~jeff

  29. Where do people buy parts? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    I have never been a big fan of Radio Shack, (especially of their individually packaged resisitors). But since having moved to the US I have seen no other shops that actually sell electornic parts. So my question is: Where do you people buy electornic parts from?

    I used to enjoy wandering around an electronics shop just checking things out. Heck, even a Radio Spares catalog is better than nothing, even if they were also overpriced. But I don't know who the best players are in the US.

    --
    I am Slashdot. Are you Slashdot as well?
    1. Re:Where do people buy parts? by sasdrtx · · Score: 1

      OK, this is redundant, but this is a better comment to reply to. Try Parts Express. You can also get a lot of their stuff through Amazon. For audio parts (speakers in particular) their selection is far better than Radio Shack's ever was. Oddly enough, I've gotten Radio Shack branded cables from them.

      --
      Most people don't even think inside the box.
    2. Re:Where do people buy parts? by Tlosk · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's not really any national chains but it's not uncommon to find at least one really nice electronics surplus shop in most larger metropolitan areas. And by nice I mean they have a large range of components. But they rarely advertise and can be in off the beaten path locations, so it can be a challenge to find them. That and they are usually run by someone advancing in years who does it as much because they love it as to make money off it, and when they retire it's unlikely to continue as a going concern, so one by one these great places are winking out across the country. Unfortunate for people like us who love being able to physically browse all sorts quirky and hard to find electronic components, but in a changing world what are you going to do I guess.

      This would make an excellent Ask Slashdot post I would imagine, to get a list going of all these out of the way shops as I'm sure there's a lot of slashdotters with favorite places they know about.

      The closest to a national presence would probably be Fry's which has a pretty decent range of stuff if you live in a state where they operate (mostly west coast from what I understand).

    3. Re:Where do people buy parts? by 2old2rockNroll · · Score: 1
    4. Re:Where do people buy parts? by unitron · · Score: 1
      "I have never been a big fan of Radio Shack, (especially of their individually packaged resisitors)."

      How well I remember buying the packages of two resistors of the same value, even though I only needed one, knowing full well that only one would be within tolerance and the other would be open or a few orders of magnitude off.

      --

      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

    5. Re:Where do people buy parts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can get lots of goodies cheap here if you are willing to browse a bit...obviously their stock is always changing:

      http://sciplus.com/

    6. Re:Where do people buy parts? by autophile · · Score: 1

      Digikey -- www.digikey.com.
      Mouser -- www.mouser.com.

      Thickest damn catalogs you've ever seen.

      --Rob

      --
      Towards the Singularity.
    7. Re:Where do people buy parts? by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      All Electronics Corp

      A fine collection of hobbyist parts and gadgets. Spec sheets online for items that they have them for. Every once in a while, I'll do a batch order of parts to fill the parts bin on the workbench. Flat-rate shipping prices for USA are fair also ($7 for any order).

    8. Re:Where do people buy parts? by AlterTick · · Score: 1
      All Electronics Corp A fine collection of hobbyist parts and gadgets. Spec sheets online for items that they have them for. Every once in a while, I'll do a batch order of parts to fill the parts bin on the workbench. Flat-rate shipping prices for USA are fair also ($7 for any order).

      Man, I love that place. If you like their web site, you should see one of their physical stores. Shelves and shelves of components, stacks of mechanical parts, cardboard boxes full of circuit boards pulled from mystery devices, old electronic machines of indeterminate function... I could wander around there for hours.
      Their Van Nuys store was on my way home for several years and I probably stopped there four times a week.

      --
      Conclusion: the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug. Accept it.
    9. Re:Where do people buy parts? by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

      www.partsexpress.com (dayton, electronic parts and lots of speaker builder stuff)
      www.surplussales.com (all sorts of surplus electronics, military and commericial)
      www.fairradio.com (also surplus stuff)
      www.oselectronics.com (like all electronics but bigger)
      www.goldmine-elec.com (lots of surplus goodies)
      www.tubesandmore.com (for people restoring radios and building junk with fire-bottles)
      www.radiodaze.com (more old radio parts)

      Must be more....

    10. Re:Where do people buy parts? by cr0sh · · Score: 1
      Here in Phoenix, Arizona, we have a place called "Apache Reclamation and Electronics" - they aren't as "cool" as they used to be (they used to have an outdoor junkyard that they have been rapidly cleaning up to comply with a city ordinance recently passed - dumb thing is, they are in close to one of the crappiest locations in town, approx 3rd Avenue and Apache, just a stone's throw north of the I-10 truck extension, in the beautiful South Phoenix blight) - but their indoor area is still amazing. Interestingly, they have a back room (rarely visted by anyone) full of old vacuum tubes - many in "old-stock-but-new" boxes!

      They are basically an electronics junkyard, where crap (surplus, used, junk) goes to die. Just to give a further taste, they have one bin, about a 4-foot per side cube - filled with old electric window motors. One area of a back wall is nothing but large spools of wire. There is a shelf filled with boxes of 15 meter coils of terminated single-mode fiber-optic cable - they sold it to me by the foot, I think it was 10 or 20 cents per foot (they thought it was wire). There are three double side rows of small bins, from floor to about 5 foot high, 50 feet long, filled with every small doohicky mechanical part you can imagine. Another room holds all manner of test equipment and other such devices. The front room holds tons of other parts.

      Go there wearing old clothes, though - even if you don't touch anything, you will get plenty dirty, the dirt just seems to "stick", ya know? If it is junk, and electronic, they have it. But, like I said, I miss the outdoor area - there used to be some really fantastic junk out there. I managed to rescue, just before it was likely going to be trashed, an Altair 8800 (alas, without the 8080 cpu board - the original owner upgraded it to a Z-80) - they sold it to me for $100.00. It will someday be a major project for me to restore it to working condition (needs a ton of cleaning, etc).

      --
      Reason is the Path to God - Anon
    11. Re:Where do people buy parts? by ZhangFei · · Score: 1

      In the Seattle / Bellevue area, Fry's is a good bet, but for just about every misc part you can dream of, the winner is Vetco. You owe it to yourself to visit this place. They have a parrot that runs around the store among the oscilliscopes (and talks to them), a dog that looks like a doormat and probably knows more about electronics than you do, and they sell speaker wire by the kilometer.

  30. Radio Shack and National Security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    In every place except, perhaps, new jersey, massachusetts, and parts of california (I guess) Radio Shack is the only place you can walk in and get a couple of transistors, a resistor, a breadboard, and a book about how to connect them up. Without this source of parts, the creative genius of american youth will not be able to grow to understand technology the way our national security needs. The Homeland Security Company ought to subsidize the electronic parts product line in the interests of national security.

    -- ac at work

    1. Re:Radio Shack and National Security by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2, Funny
      Without this source of parts, the creative genius of american youth will not be able to grow to understand technology the way our national security needs.

      I have to agree. When I was a kid Radio Shack gave me a real head start in electrical engineering principles like series and parallel resistance calculations: By never having the actual values that I needed in stock, I had to learn to mentally rig together an equivalent value with whatever scraps I could actually find on their shelves. And with their markup of $1.79 for a pair of 1/2-cent resistors, there was a real financial incentive to find the most efficient solution. Radio Shack shopping was a valuable part of my technical education.

  31. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Xocet_00 · · Score: 2, Informative
    You're certainly correct about that - whenever I need a bizarre connector, box or even chip at a moment's notice I can get it as long as I'm willing to drive a bit. However I find these days that I'm more likely to decide to take a break, have a beer and visit Digikey.

    If Radioshack goes under, you'll still be able to get all sorts of weird parts at relatively short notice (albeit not immediately).

  32. How many of you have lied on a resume? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    How many of you have lied on a resume? Everyone streatches their experience when they can, but this was overt lying about his education. In many jobs, you might be fired on the spot.


    He was the CEO. What is the ratio of CEO salary to worker salary (50:1?)? He was a highly-paid corporate executive who should be setting an example (think Enron here...). This also sends a message about the honesty of CEOs (yea, right). Did he get a "golden parachute"?


    BTW, when is slashdot adding a spel cheker?

    1. Re:How many of you have lied on a resume? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      He was the CEO. What is the ratio of CEO salary to worker salary (50:1?)? He was a highly-paid corporate executive who should be setting an example

      To be fair to the guy, the resume was from over a decade ago when he got a job doing sales for Radio Shack. So he made the lie ten years ago, maybe when he was younger and dumber, and probably had totally forgotten about it by now. No sane person would deliberately lie on a resume knowing it would be used as documentation to offer him a position as CEO...

  33. Radio Shack CEO always lied by Siddly · · Score: 1

    Seems it's not the only thing he lied about, the Microsoft "Linux Reference Center" advert says he saved millions by choosing Windows over Linux, but we already knew that was a falsehood.

  34. To quote the MGB song.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My devil's on sugar smacks
    Down at the radio shack
    We're turning shit into solid gold
    Solid gold...

    'Hello Time Bomb' by the Matthew Good Band


  35. this is karma by observer7 · · Score: 0

    they joined microsofts propaganda get the facts campagn and now down the tubes

  36. There have been signs of trouble for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Radio Shack had a major divorce from its Canadian division. The result is that the Canadian stores are now called "The Source". The Canadian operation had major disagreements with the US operation about what should and should not be carried in the stores. The Canadian stores seem to have known what they were doing. The stores are full of merchandise and there are lots of customers.

    1. Re:There have been signs of trouble for a while by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Radio Shack name was leased by InterTan (Tandy) out of Barrie, Ontario. Circuit City Canada bought InterTan. Radio Shack USA is in competition with Circuit City USA. Radio Shack ended Tandy's 25 year lease early. Circuit City then renamed all their stores "The Source".

      (or so I've been told)

  37. Clap, Clap, Clap Bravo! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    That is some of the best sarcasm I heard in ages. To bad they don't have that stuff anymore. I had to hunt for a Basic $2 Calculator.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  38. Radio Shack Slogan by scottennis · · Score: 1

    "You've got questions, we've got unverified answers!"

    or my personal favorite:

    "You've got money, we've got pockets!"

  39. Motto by Comatose51 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Radio Shack: You got questions, we got blank stares...

    I tried to get some parts for an oscillator once and the guy just looked at me like I was crazy. I thought in the back of my mind, "This is Radio Shack right....??"

    --
    EvilCON - Made Famous by /.
    1. Re:Motto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's nothing. Not knowing electronic components? Hardly surprising of the average guy nowadays. I walked in there last week for get a WiFi card for my laptop, and the guy didn't have a clue what it was or looked like. Same thing about 3 months ago, when a power outage claimed my network switch. I saw online they had some 8 port 10/100 switches in clearance (and in stock at that location). So I went there and asked for it, thanks god I could show them what it was - they didn't know WTF I was asking for this time either.

      They're laughable.

      They're trying to combine a electronics store like BestBuy (very poor selection of TVs, DVD players, computers, games, etc), along with cell phones, random gadgets (mp3 players, eletronic thermometers, etc), electronic parts (excluding anything you'd ever need) and all in a very small surface. It's not like we go there for batteries either (I'd rather buy good and inexpensive NiMH batteries instead).

      Long gone are the days they sold a decent range of parts, and things like Forrest Mims' books. One just has to order from digikey or the like for anything nowadays. I went looking for a power plug for my DSLR a couple months ago (nothing overly special), and the only thing they could offer is some 80$ adapter, so I could cut the wire off to use the flimsy plug (not enough current to use it) - with no polarity marking either.

      Until their employees know what they're selling and until they stop trying to be BestBuy + DigiKey + whatever else all crammed in a store the size of a walk-in closet...

    2. Re:Motto by archen · · Score: 1

      Well you have to look at the big picture here. What does the average employee at radio shack get paid? A dollar over minimum wage? You're telling me a person who knows about everything from stereos to boards, to resisters, to antennas is going to end up working at radio shack? Not only that, but what are the chances that you could even find enough of these types of people to work there?

      I go to radio shack without any expectations of them knowing what the hell I'm talking about. Usually whatever I say might as well be chinese to the guy working there so he leaves me alone - which is fine with me. This is the nature of the great North American consumer world. Can't get replacement parts. Can't find anyone who knows how anything works.

    3. Re:Motto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you expect RadioShack to hire electrical engineers for sales asscociates? Sheesh.

    4. Re:Motto by graffix_jones · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of the time several years ago that I had bought an old tube amplifier at a thrift store that, other than needing new tubes, was in great condition.

      So, being that Radio Shack was about the only game in town for electronic parts (this is before I had an internet connection), I called them up on the phone and asked if they could order me some vacuum tubes.

      The guy on the phone sounded bewildered for a couple seconds, then tried to recommend a 'sewing and vacuum store', where I could find all the vacuum tubes I wanted.

      Taken aback, I asked him if he was sure I could find vacuum tubes at a vacuum store... and when he affirmed his recommendation, I then proceeded to explain to him exactly what type of 'vacuum tubes' I was looking for.

      After sheepishly swallowing his pride, he took the part numbers from me and placed the order... since this was in the mid-90's, I'm really surprised Radio Shack hasn't slid downhill faster... they've long hired people that have no idea what they're selling, which can only spell disaster in the long-run.

    5. Re:Motto by Mancat · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Interesting.. I was in the local RS about two years ago. I was looking to mess around with SparcStation 2 that I was bored with, and decided to replace the CPU clock oscillator in order to overclock it. I went in to RS and asked if they had some 100MHz oscillators. The guy asked what I was doing, and I mentioned it was a Sun box. We got into a discussion about it, he knew which CPU the SS2 had, and he even recommended against doing the operation because of the layer width of the motherboard. This guy knew his stuff; turned out he was a Sun hardware service guy in the late '80s-early '90s.

      Every once in a while you'll run into one of the "old crew" in a RS store, but probably less and less these days. I remember fondly in the early '90s when I was a young kid, and RS was my favorite place to go, when they really did have all the coolest gadgets and kits, and the staff was knowledgable and freindly.

      I'm sad to see it go this way.

      --
      hello dear sirs my name is jamesh i are india (bihar) can u guide me install red had linux 9?
    6. Re:Motto by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Nice! It starts out like an insightful comment about Radio Shack but by the end of the first paragraph you realize it's really a troll about Sun. ;-) j/k

      --
      Breakfast served all day!
  40. Re:I Hate RadioShack by unitron · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Radio Shack is the Wal-Mart of electronics. They carry enough parts to keep anyone else who would carry a greater selection out of the local market.

    That, combined with the trend in consumer electronics to go from expensive but repairable to cheap but unfixable (can't get parts, can't get service manuals), means that where I live we've gone from two competing "parts houses" (where service technicians used to get tubes and transistors and such) to none.

    --

    I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  41. Guess Daddy dont have enough $$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His problem is not the lack of qulifications he just dont have enough cash. Lying about qualifications didnt seem to hurt Richard Li http://www.forbes.com/2001/03/30/0330facesli.html

    Which just confirms it's not what you know, but who you know - or who you're related to.

    PS: Appologies for the Anonymous Coward posting: Ricky is three or four pointy haired heads away from being my boss...

    PPS: Qualifications arent everything, we had a CCIE apply for a position in our team that didn't know shit about BGP. We checked him out he truely was a CCIE.

  42. Hear Hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's really annoying to have to order parts on the 'Net and pay an extra $5.00 minimum order fee just because I don't want to or need to buy 10 or more components. Yes,yes, for the pedantics out there that are going to mention that these folks would not make enough if they didn't charge the minimum, I understand. My point is to agree with the parent that there's not many places for the hobbyist these days to purchase at a reasonable price and quantity.

    Which, if it were that profitable, RS wouldn't be shrinking their components business down so much. Every year, those drawers in the back get smaller and smaller. And some parts seem to be perpetually on back order. Geese!

    1. Re:Hear Hear! by Random_Goblin · · Score: 2

      ... Yes,yes, for the pedantics out there that ...

      I think you'll find that's "for the pedants out there..."

  43. No surprise by etherealmuse · · Score: 0

    Maybe now I can go buy some batteries without having to give them my full address, phone, business phone, zip code and passport identification number with accompanying retina scan.

    --
    "Say you love us like i know you will and that our deaths won't be in vain or in the name of gasoline"
  44. Education isn't what was missing... by kibbled_bits · · Score: 1

    It's ethics. I know too many genious "unqualified" persons to hold that against someone. The problem is the ethics or lack thereof. Not to mention RadioShack's only focus in business now is to sell cellphones. They made so much off of them in the early 00's and it took the focus off the rest of their business. Try getting radio parts, kits or electronics parts now, they're almost noexistent along with the knowledge to sell them.

  45. slickdeas by nxs212 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That explains why they had that 30% off EVERYTHING on-line sale last week of December.
    (trying to make their numbers look better)
    Dell does the same thing every quarter.

  46. HAHA!!!!! by albieomoss · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This is hilarious to me because I know David Edmunson's son Josh. He resigned because he got caught cheating on his wife with an employee and his wife is pissed about it. I'm sure it will come out eventually. It might have something to do with him lying about his education but that is not what started the ball rolling.

    --
    DankLogic - There is a system to everything.
  47. Perks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone wanna bet he still gets handsomely rewarded for life from Radio Shack when he quits?

  48. You'd think people would have gotten the message by Wansu · · Score: 3, Interesting



    This isn't the first person to be exposed for lying about academic credentials and it probably won't be the last. Nonetheless, after so many have been keelhauled for doing this, I'm surprised that people still lie in writing about their academinc credentials and surprised that there are still companies not checking for this, particularly for executive candidates. No doubt some of the Radio Shack board have egg on their faces as well, especially in light of the drastic cuts that ananlysts suggest are needed.

    Academic credentials are about the easiest qualification to check for. Just call the school. Either the candidate has the degree they claim to have or they do not. There's no shade of gray. That's why it's so stupid to lie about this. It's easy to check and there's no wiggle room. Why then do so many do it? Why then are there companies that don't check for this?

    --
    Wansu, th' chinese sailor
  49. RadioShack = Dollar store of electronics by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you want to turn around profits, then stop selling the house-brand crappy electronics that are made in China that you can buy at a Dollar Store for a buck (but RadioShack sells for $20). People recognize quality when they see it, and RadioShack doesn't represent quality.

    Even the name brands they sell tend to be the low end economy models that Sony, Panasonic, etc will sell at Walmart or grocery stores, of course for a far cheaper price then RadioShack.

    There may have been a time when you can pass off a cheap Chinese boom box for $100, and that is when RadioShack raked in the money, but these days people are a little more discriminating in the quality of electronics they buy, and RadioShack hasn't offered those better quality products. They still insist on selling that cheap Chinese boom boxes for $100.

    RadioShack should simply refocus on selling batteries and remote control cars, its about all they do well. Stop trying to sell cheap home theater and stereo equipment and televisions, drop computers period, and focus on smaller electronic gadgets that you can't find elsewhere. Either that, our start offering high end stuff you can't find anywhere else, open up a niche market that walmart, Best Buy and Target can't touch.

    Just, don't go on as business as usual. It obviously isn't working, and those no-name brands you keep carrying and selling for the same price as name brands are not making you money.

    --
    I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
    1. Re:RadioShack = Dollar store of electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To me, Radio Shack has, for years, been the epitome of poor quality at inflated prices. I have never been one to tinker, so I don't know if hobbyists kept the place alive. I'm surprised they lasted this long, to be honest.

      Years ago I recall that Radio Shack used to sell Candle-brand products (radios, tape-recorders, etc.). It wouldn't have been so bad if they would have charged comparatively low price for the low, low quality of these products, but no, they charged a high price so that wet-behind-the-ears folks like me couldn't imagine that such an expensive (relatively) electronics product could be so crappy. Of course, the name "shack" should have been a dead giveaway.

  50. Nice. :) by WidescreenFreak · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's really sad is that a lot of people won't get that joke at all. Hopefully, you won't get too many "Offtopic" mods. Unfortunately, I don't have any mod points or I'd throw a +1 Funny your way.

    For those not in the know, Realistic and Optimus are Radio Shack brand names.

    --
    The Overrated mod is for reversing inappropriate, positive mods, not for voicing disagreement with a post.
  51. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Starker_Kull · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That USED to be the beauty of the place, a long time ago. Fry's has taken what little electronic hobbist store business there is, and the rest is all by catalog, sadly. I don't think there are enough electronic hobbists in the U.S. today to support a nationwide chain of stores catering to that. Someone or ones in Radio Shack management came to that conclusion back in the 80's after the PC market consolidated (remember the Trash-80?), and the chain has tried to remake itself into a mass market cheap electronic gadget distributor ala Best-Buy and P.C. Richard, replacing employees who knew how to fix and build things with the "You want fries with that?" crowd. It has to date failed rather miserably at this task, which relys on massive stores with room for both inventory and selection of "consumer electronics" and doesn't give a rat's ass about hobbists any more.

    At least, that's my perception of them here in New England and in my frequent visits to Texas...

  52. You've got questions? by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 1

    He had no answers...

  53. We saved millions not switching to linux by codepunk · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they should take these millions they saved and dig themselves out of their financial crisis.

    "After an extensive evaluation in which RadioShack compared Windows® and Linux, the company selected Microsoft® Windows Server System(TM) and Windows XP Embedded."

    Actually if they would just get out of the comodity market they got themselves into and start actually carrying cool shit again they might stand a chance.

    --


    Got Code?
  54. It all started when... by ShineyMcShine · · Score: 2, Funny

    It all started when they took out the vacuum tube testing machines from the stores...

    1. Re:It all started when... by nocaster · · Score: 0

      I knew they were doomed when they started running commercials with Howie Long and Teri Hatcher.

    2. Re:It all started when... by k4_pacific · · Score: 1

      No kidding. Just the other day, the picture in my Hoffman console started getting banded. So I got out the alignment tool and started tweaking the little pots on the back, that helped a little, but I figure one of the tubes is probably going. So, I yank off the back of the TV, pulled out all of the tubes, and headed down to the local Radio Shack. I threw the box on the counter and asked where the U-Test-em machine was. The guy was like, what the hell is this? They're TV tubes, I say. This is Radio Shack, isn't it? He's like, yeah, but we sell cell phones now. So, I'm like, Goddammit! I paid $400 for that TV in 1956 and I'm getting my money's worth out of it! The guy's like, woah, easy there, just buy a new TV. So I tell him, that TV has served me well for years, I don't need all your high fallutin modern "features" like "color", and "UHF". I just wanna watch Cronkite after supper. Harrumpphhh. What's this world coming to?

      --
      Unknown host pong.
  55. Radio Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever since RadioShack did that TCO study and decided to go with Micro$oft... well you know the rest...

  56. My anecdote(s) about Radio Shack. by Otis2222222 · · Score: 1
    Aside from the obvious "your diode is 79 cents, would you like satellite TV with that?" stupidity, there are two things that happened that made me decide to swear off Radio Shack forever.

    • Several years ago, I bought a fiber cable from Radio Shack for my CD player to hook up to my stereo. Their house brand cables were really cheap, only like 10 bucks for a 6 or 8 foot cable. About a year later I returned to buy additional fiber cables for my cable box and my PS2. They no longer sold the "house brand" and only carried some upscale brand with gold-plated(!) connectors that cost 36-40 bucks appiece. I laughed at the sales guy and told them I wanted the 10 buck model, but since they didn't have those I bought the cables online. 12 bucks with shipping. No Sale, Radio Shack.

    • I was recently there to look for a cell phone battery for my aging Samsung A500. They had one but with a price tag of $69.95!!! In fact, all of their cell phone batteries were ridiculously expensive. Why even bother carrying them? The sales guy tried to tell me I should buy a new phone and I laughed at him and told him I could get one online for under $20, which I did. I just didn't want to wait 3-5 days for it since the one I had was dying, so I figured the one at Radio Shack couldn't be more than 30-35.

    In summary, they are a store with no real purpose. They clearly can't compete with big box stores like Best Buy and Circuit City, and their hobbyist section grows smaller and smaller as they try to "reinvent" themselves. News flash radio shack - unless you decide to return to their roots you're dead in the water! Nice knowing you...

    1. Re:My anecdote(s) about Radio Shack. by Bunch'a+4th+Graders · · Score: 0

      Several years ago I was working my way through college at a company owned RS store. In regional/district sales meetings they regularly acknowledged that they overcharged for things like specialty/phone batteries because RS was convenient. I don't think I could count the number of times they likened it to your corner party store charging $4.29 for a gallon of milk. They assumed that the consumer would pay for the convenience.

      It doesn't surprise me that they are having troubles now. They never quite understood that it wasn't convenient to have to give your address and have batteries and cell phones shoved down your throat every time you went in for a $5 audio cable.

  57. Indeed Radio Shack's leather days are over... by postbigbang · · Score: 1

    Yet there's a legacy about what made them viable in the first place: small, low-rent, distributed strip mall and small town shops that were convenient and supplied things you needed. The concept of a radio shack grew out of the ham radio, and CB days, when a solder jockey could build something as basic a crystal radio kit and then graduate beyond. Digikey now sells zillions of dollars of components in all conceivable varieties and types, and others like MCM supply the consumer electronic tech repair trade with replacement parts like magnetrons for blown microwave ovens, Cat 6 cable, and so on.

    Heathkit, then Heath/Zenith also had trouble staying relevant and their locations died a slow and profit-less death. Radio Shack is in the same danger.

    And amusingly, I too go to Tandy leather to get items to fix items I own. They're going well in my area... while the Radio Shack down the street is likely to fold shortly.

    Pity.

    --
    ---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
  58. Re:I Hate RadioShack by CharlieG · · Score: 1

    Small Towns? You mean like NYC? TRY to find electronic parts in NYC - I've had no luck. Sigh

    73 de KG2V

    --
    -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! "You are what you do when it counts" - the Masso
  59. Once Upon A Time(tm)... by ursabear · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...Radio Shack had parts and adaptors and other things that you just couldn't get anywhere. There were zillions of times I went to Radio Shack to get some bizarre audio adaptor - and not only would they have what I needed, they'd have three different types that would do the job.

    Ever wired a commercial audio job at some remote site in East Belt Buckle [insert state here]? In the middle of the job, there was always some part needed, or something that would not work right - and even East Belt Buckle would have a Radio Shack - problem solved...

    Spin the time machine to the present... the CEO isn't quite what was sold to the company... The product line is thin, cheap, and out of step with the times. The sales clerks demand your life's personal information if you want to buy a $.25 resistor or some wire, or if your wife just went there to buy an odd-size battery. They are not in the consciousness of the public (along the lines of CompUSA, Best Buy, Circuit City, et. al.). Their prices are not anything to write home about. Their hours are generally not as flexible as the Huge Mart stores against which they compete. And to top it all off, the cool little DIY parts are getting so thin that you can't go to RS and dream up a little cool electronic thing any more.

    Earth to Radio Shack: Do more than get rid of one or two brass... Figure out what America is after and then adapt to that. I don't like to nay-say the health of a company, but even I can see that Radio Shack has become the Kodak(TM) Instant Film and the 8-Track superstore that no-one needs it to be.

    1. Re:Once Upon A Time(tm)... by Bowdie · · Score: 1

      Couldn't agree more. Here in the UK, we have a chain of stores called "Maplin" They're a big warehouse type place for batteries, components, bulbs, and other geeky fun things.

      A few years ago, they shifted focus away from that and started selling crappy overclocking gear, lexmark printers, and kids toys. My local Maplins went from a place where I had circuit diagrams both drawn and debugged for me, to a baffling shithole full of talking piggy banks and blue LED'd cooling fans. Not surprisingly, all the bright people have upped and left, and it's now staffed with people who don't really know anything about electronics, and don't care to.

      Bummer.

      --
      yes, www.dotcomforwardslash.com is my real URL.
  60. Must... Resist... Temptation. by camusflage · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Ya know, if you had any wonder that a half-wit can't be elected, found out to be a fraud, and then re-elected, just look at the current regime in the US. NUKE-yuh-luhr?

    --
    The truth about Scientology, Xenu, and you: Operation Clambake
    1. Re:Must... Resist... Temptation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot the bit about draft dodging substance abuser...

      if bill didn't inhale, did bush swallow?

  61. Re:I Hate RadioShack by slorge · · Score: 1

    doesn't anyone use the internet to shop for these items? There must be a reliable site that will sell you resistors and the like.

    I'm still using my CueCat:) and sold three or four of them on ebay!! Thanks Shadio Rack!

    --
    Some people are like slinkys. They're useless, but it puts a smile on your face to push them down the stairs.
  62. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Himring · · Score: 0

    Good post. I tend to agree. It's like techtv, a treasure to geeks, useless to everyone else....

    --
    "All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
  63. They couldn't be losing *THAT* much by bigattichouse · · Score: 1

    I haven't used my battery-of-the-month club card in years!

    --
    meh
  64. Anyone remember when it was good? by adolfojp · · Score: 1

    The other day I went to Radio Shack to buy a 1 ampere AC/DC converter. The clerk told me that they didn't have converters with such low voltages and to prove his point he showed me a 1000 milliampere converter.

    I miss the old days when radio shack employees knew about the stuff they were selling or at least about high school physics.

    Cheers,
    Adolfo

  65. And cool stuff could be a lucrative niche by ke4roh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They just can't have a store in every shopping mall.

    If they would consolidate their stores and put one or two in each metro area, focusing on the hobbyist by providing the integrated circuits, connectors, switches, project boxes, breadboards, and so forth, they would be in good shape. How much would you pay for a handfull of 10k resistors if you needed 3 for a project? Talk about profit margin! They won't make money on cell phone plans, TV sets, cordless phones, or Tandy computers. They have a reputation for selling junk. But for parts, it's the place to go (except that they quit selling the cool parts...)

    Heck, they used to have some cool project books. They could send people project ideas by e-mail and put them up on a web site. They could milk it for all it's worth...

    Oh, but I forget! We don't care about science (and to some extent, engineering) in this country. It's all about short-term gains, next quarter's profit, and so forth... Grumble, grumble.

    So yes, they could be cool if they wanted. I don't think they really want to earn my business.

    --
    I hate call waitin`~+~~~
    NO CARRIER
    1. Re:And cool stuff could be a lucrative niche by deadgoon42 · · Score: 1

      They definitely need fewer stores. I know of three Shacks within walking distance of my apartment. That's not to mention all the other stores around town. It seems as if there is a Radio Shack in every little shopping center, sometimes less than a mile from the next store.

      They also need to move away from cellphone and digital satellite services. The offer no value add on these services, they are merely a third party vendor. Most people would rather deal direct than with a third party vendor.

      Finally, they are trying to put too much into a small footprint store. They should face the fact the most people are going to go to Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Fry's, etc. when they want to buy name brand televisions, stereos, and computers. They should try to stick with smaller items they can sell in the small stores.

      And maybe this is just the end for Radio Shack. Most of the time it is easier (and certainly cheaper) to buy electronic components online, and you don't have to deal with a pushy teenager trying to sell you a cellphone plan.

      --

      Smeghead every day of the week.
  66. Re:You'd think people would have gotten the messag by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

    I agree that the academic fraud he pulled off is the most off putting thing, but let's be honest.....how can even a educated CEO save Radio Shack? All of thier competition has them beat on price and in alot of cases, selection. I mean I went there to look for something I thought they may carry...bluetooth headphones (no not a stupid headset for my cellphone) and they only had one model and it didn't even come with the adapter to plug into a 3.5 mm port! Stupid. They did make my son happy this Christmas though with a big honking radio controlled Camaro!

    --

    Gorkman

  67. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Himring · · Score: 1

    As I mentioned, walking into a store front.... If mail order is the option then the world's your oyster. There are times when you want to walk in, browse, pick up, hold, buy, go home and continue. Waiting for a shipment is a mild form of hell for most -- at times anyhow. And I live in a small enough town that radio shack is about all there is for these parts. I DO NOT want to wait days for my $3 battery to arrive for my watch when it dies. I want to walk in at lunch, buy it, and walk out. I had to use the radio shack here in town recently to do this. Walmart and Staples did not carry the specific battery my watch needed. They had tons of others for more popular watches I suppose, but now we get back to the whole shabang about demographics, marketing research, supply/demand, etc., and the fact that they shouldn't carry my watch battery as most people would own the other watches for the batteries they do carry anyhow....

    --
    "All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
  68. Re:I Hate RadioShack by woolio · · Score: 1

    There very very few hobbyists now...

    I laught everytime I see that infomercial on the cordless soldering iron. They show a guy soldering electronic stuff with it... 99.9% of the US is never even going to think about it. The only people who might do some soldering are some audiophiles who will solder a little wire to their speakers.

    Look at the way the general public is inept at maintaining their own computer. Soon, people will call electricians to change lightbulbs...

  69. Head of sales is a liar by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Funny

    who'd have thunk it?

    --
    There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
  70. Non-degree people are everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It never ceases to amaze me when a person gets fired for faking a degree. It's a very common practice. When I worked in higher education, the HR people were militant about getting offical transcripts sent straight from the college in question. There was no fooling these people; about 5% of all finalist candidates had degree claims that could not be substantiated.

    But I got in, no degree required. As a part-time temp, doing a mainframe operations job that nobody wanted. Thirteen years and six promotions later, I was the Director of Technical Services. Still no degree. On six occasions, the Board of Trustees had to vote on an exemption so that I could be promoted. Today, I work in private industry. I have a senior management position in IT, still no degree. I never lie about it because I don't have to. I have 20+ uninterrupted years of IT experience -- take it or leave it.

    If you read the job ads very closely, you find all kinds of weasel-words that actually chinks in the degree requirement armor. Things like "MSCS preferred, or equivalent experience". Even when the ad says "BSCS required", it's negotiatble. I know of several non-degree people who managed to get hired despite some really strict wording of the degree requirement. Even companies who portray a degree-only image are often much different behind the scenes. My personal policy is to pass on the ads where they use keywords like "essential", "must have", "successful candidate will have", etc.

    That said, there is no substitute for having the same skills that degreed people have and doing the job. In the long run, we are all evaluated against the same criteria.

    1. Re:Non-degree people are everywhere by thegnu · · Score: 1

      I have no degree. When I moved to the US, I looked into getting my A+ cert, met some people who had it, and decided that generally it was kind of pointless, based on these observations:

      1. Everyone I met with an A+ cert was not using it, and none could actually FIX a computer unless it was something really standard.

      2. I really don't want to learn quite so much legacy stuff, and it seemed to permeate the curriculum.

      3. The curriculum seemed permeated with non-reapplicable information about the specific quirks of Windows, which I already know.

      4. I can look up IRQs on the internet. I can look up stop codes on the internet. In fact, I've looked up so many stop codes, I generally can just look it up in my brain and have a good solid guess for what's wrong.

      None of this is to say that A+ cert is useless. I see it as a this-person-will-not-confuse-silicon-grease-with-s ilicon-seal certification mostly, with a few rudimentary things thrown in there.

      I guess I'm just surprised at hw many people who work on computers aren't born hackers. As soon as I could walk,I could turn on just about any electronic device (push the BIGGEST BUTTON, then turn the giant knob for chrissakes) and pretty much spent my childhood breaking things and trying to fix things. It took about 20 years to get to the point where I could fix things as successfully as I could break them, but things are looking up. :-)

      --
      Please stop stalking me, bro.
  71. Re:Nice. :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's why Radio Shack is in trouble. You can't make a pun out of "Nexxtech" and "Centrios" ^__^

  72. how about drunk driving by uniqueCondition · · Score: 1

    He's also been to court twice for DWIs and will be showing up for a third in April!

    --
    "The more you know, the less sure you are." - Voltaire
  73. Re:I Hate RadioShack by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You don't know the half of it, amigo...

    I'm not allowed to work at a corporate-managed RadioShack ever again (I quit without notice).

    Radio Shack pretends to care about its customers. It's evident from the way every meeting goes, all the way down to the store manager with his employees. The entire focus is on SELLING BIG-TICKET THINGS. If you're in here for batteries, I should offer you a cellular plan. Why? Because deep down, you want one, and you're just waiting for me to offer it to you. Their strategy for floor salesmen was "give them what they came in for, and then add as much as you can onto it." It doesn't matter if they need cellular service, if they have good enough credit to support it, whatever... sell it to them anyway!

    Now, they're changing their pay scale as part of this revamping process, and making it so even less of the money goes to the people who sell things. Their new commission system is designed to screw the salesman 4 ways from Friday. I'm so glad I got out of there... I hated that job. Ugh.

    Now, I don't even shop there. I'll find some little independent electronics retailer, or I'll find it online. Radio Shack isn't nearly what it used to be. They hire salespeople and try to make them knowledgeable instead of hiring knowledgeable people and making them into salesmen.

    Everyone, do the world a favor... Take your money elsewhere.

    --
    Windows isn't the answer... it's the question. NO is the answer!
  74. Education had nothing to do with it by dcavanaugh · · Score: 1

    If this CEO was meeting his profit objectives, the degree issue would never be an issue. RS is in big trouble, and the CEO must go. If he had a degree, he would still be gone. Having worked for RS in high school (back in the 1980's), I am surprised only that the company lasted this long. In my opinion, they are the Dilbert PHBs of retail (and that is NOT an easy prize to win!).

  75. childhood memories by Syphilis · · Score: 1

    As a child (12-14 yrs old) I used to go to Radio Shack all the time and leaf through those giant hinged doors covered in little bags of electronic parts. Soon after I got my VIC-20 I opened it up and began doing small projects (anyone rememer Steve Ciarcia's Circuit Cellar?).

    I went in there a few weeks ago to pick up some component video cables, hoping for a little nostalgia, and guess what? Gone were the $1.49 RCA cables; now they only have $59.99 super fancy-shmancy cables. Even if their gold-plated goodness does deliver some kind of audiovisual miracle (which I doubt), I definitely felt out of my element - this was no longer a store for hobbyists, but for ... well, I don't know what you'd call them.

    Anyway, I headed over to Home Depot, and picked up a beautiful component video component cables (RGB + LR) for $3.49.

  76. Take the CEO to the Woodshed... by digitaldc · · Score: 1

    ...err make that the WoodShack!

    --
    He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
  77. Radio shack: mainstream but still bad by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    Everyone is posting how Radio Shack has "lost it's roots" and has become a consumer electronics place for cell phones and stuff. Well duh! Electronics just aren't geeky anymore, they are practical. I won't fault Radio Shack for appealing to the masses.

    Radio Shack's problem is that they don't even do the mainstream stuff well. Even my mom goes to the geeky local electronics store rather than Radio Shack because she says the people there are much more helpful.

    Just last week I had a salesperson at Radio Shack sell me the wrong cables (I knew full well what I needed, but the saleswoman jumped in my face and got the cable for me and I paid before I even looked). I went back not even 5 minutes later and they wanted a $10 restocking fee on an $8 cable! Then they actually didn't have what I needed (a common RCA cable extender. They weren't sure if they were out of stock or if they didn't carry it). Fed-up, I called the local store and they had the right cable for less money.

    If you are in Baltimore, Baynesville Electronics is awesome

    I then called my local shop and they had the item, the right one, for less money. And just as a test they told me how to properly use an ammeter.

    1. Re:Radio shack: mainstream but still bad by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the necropost, but I thought maybe I should add my $.02 on your comments, as a former RS employee.

      Their salespeople are given impossible goals to meet. I live in a town of about 60,000 people. The RS pay scale is set up that you have to sell $4000 per week to hit commissionable sales... up until that point, you get your base pay and that's it. $4000 per week isn't possible on a regular basis except for 3 months out of the year... leading up to Christmas. Why? Mostly because they also overstaff the stores with morons. I know what many electronic components are... I took electronics in college. I'm not familiar with all the intricacies of every circuit, etc... but at least I know what the heck it's supposed to look like and how to read the label for a component's resistance/capacitance/whatever. The problem is that I can't make any money at it. Do you know how many resistors it takes to get to $4000? The only way I'll even make it *close* is if I sell a crap-paq computer, several home theater systems, and a cell phone. When the guy comes in looking for resistors, I'm worried that one of the sales sharks (who run over other employees in order to sell phones so they can reach commission) is going to be up front getting the next cell deal and I'm going to be stuck explaining how we don't have a 2-ohm resistor but you could buy the multi-pack of the 1-ohms and wire 2 in series to get the same effect. At the end of the day, the shark who ignores everyone headed for the components goes home with a better chance at a fat paycheck. Some of them intentionally don't learn anything about the parts so that they can "pass the customer to someone more knowledgeable" and wait for the cellular customer today. Radio Shack keeps up this dream of a "good salesman with unlimited earnings potential" because it forces their people to be aggressive, even when they don't know jack about what they're selling you. If they *tried* to just be an electrical supplier with a few extra gadgets, rather than a Best Buy, they'd do a lot better. They'd put a lot of Mom & Pop stores out of business, because they've already got all the logistics in place for getting parts to where they need to be.

      --
      Windows isn't the answer... it's the question. NO is the answer!
  78. Radio Shack still exists? by mh101 · · Score: 1

    I was looking for one a few months back here where I live in Canada, and saw that all Radio Shack stores in the malls are now 'The Source by Circuit City." Exact same store though, just with a different sign.

    --
    Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together.
  79. Re:Check Yourself? by mccabem · · Score: 1

    Let's not forget reality -- it's who you know, not what you know, that matters. Always has been and likely always will be.

    That cases like this are uncovered more often lately is maybe a good sign, but certainly not a sign things are really changing.

    (In fact, what you know can be ignored or forged. Among the plentiful examples illustrating this, one of the more prominent would be The President Of The United States and "Brownie" of FEMA infamy. This practice is widespread, not even isolated and rare.)

  80. Re:I Hate RadioShack by beoswulf · · Score: 1

    Could you give an example? There are a handful of really high quality, well educated albeit aging independent electronic parts retailers in NYC. Although you have to go off to Queens or Brooklyn they exist for now.

  81. I think they were looking for an excuse by Hyperx_Man · · Score: 1

    I think they pushed him out and used education as an excuse to void his contract. I mean the quarter was bad, and Radio Shack has a tendancy of knee jerk reaction to almost anything. There are many CEOs who barely finished high school, and are performing very well.

  82. Re:I Hate RadioShack by CharlieG · · Score: 1

    Where? I have not been able to find them - all the ones I knew of in Queens are long gone - Even Electronics City (Just over the city line in Nassau) has gone out of business.

    Please - feel free to list'm here, and/or email me them direct - there are more than a few NYC based guys I know who would LOVE to know of them - I'll put a list up on my web site, and forward them to the hams around here

    --
    -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! "You are what you do when it counts" - the Masso
  83. "The Source"?? by Apostata · · Score: 1

    Here in Canada (Toronto specifically), they changed their bloody name to (wait for it) 'The Source'. That's right - toss all name/brand recognition (not that this amounted to much lately) out the window and choose the most generic ho-hum store name you can think of. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

    --

    This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. This was terrible with raisins in it. - Dorothy Parker
    1. Re:"The Source"?? by Tamerlan · · Score: 1

      This is not how it was. There is a Canadian Company that had a franchise agreement with RadioShack. In June 2005 companies did not extend the contract (I do not know details) so canucks had to change store signs.

    2. Re:"The Source"?? by Apostata · · Score: 1

      ahhh...I stand corrected then. Thanks for the context.

      --

      This wasn't just plain terrible, this was fancy terrible. This was terrible with raisins in it. - Dorothy Parker
  84. Then vs. Now and Why RS is Doomed by AngryNick · · Score: 1
    I remember going to RS with my dad when I was a kid. Back then you could buy just about anything electrical, stuff that you couldn't get anywhere else: tubes for the TV, ICs and caps for electronics projects, lamp wire (back when it was still cool to use it as speaker wire), and other stuff that wasn't already assembled. The customers were mostly middle-age male hobbyist and /.-type people. The salespeople often knew as much as the customers and I suspected worked at RS as a result of their own addition to gadgets and electrons.

    Roll forward 25 years. I was in RS this weekend and the place looks like a mini Circuit City. All they want to do is sell you a stereo, cell phone, a remote controlled car, or a set of Monster Cables. The sales people don't have a clue about how electronics work and they abandon customers looking for anything technical so that they can focus their efforts on the next goober looking to buy a cell phone (they are easily identified by the lack of a pocket protector).

    RS has turned away from it's original niche and joined the fray of consumer electronics. In Darwinian terms, they have evolved into a very short giraffe that is competing with normal size giraffes, elephants, and other leaf eating animals. They will soon be extinct.

  85. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Himring · · Score: 1

    It's hard for me to fathom that someone actually wasted a mod point on that comment....

    --
    "All great things are simple & expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Churchill
  86. From an ex employee... by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 1

    I can honestly say, it is no surprise. I worked for RS for 2-3 years while I was in college, and I can honestly say that my store manager was the only reason I stayed. He was a great, intelligent, and fun guy. The rest of the company is a joke, and absolute joke. This isn't coming from a disgruntled employee, but one of their top salesmen for my entire time with them.

    They have no focus, they have no plan, and they have no chance in hell of staying in business. First it was all about attaching accessories (batteries, etc.) then they switched to Cell phones and Sattelite TV being the big buzz, then they went back to accessories being #1, and on and on. They cut back on how much the employee earns on a particular product, and then make it the #1 push... gee, I wonder why they have trouble. In close to 3 years I had been put through more acronyms for selling the "right" way than I can count. I would be told to sell batteries, so batteries I would sell, and be far and away the #1 in sales of batteries for the entire district only to be reprimanded at the next meeting for not selling cell phones. By the time of the meeting the "corporate vision" had changed and my sales numbers were worthless in their eyes. You couldn't win.

    I was the rare person who actually understood EVERYTHING RS sold, and had an EE/hardware hacking background as well. Instead of utilizing me to train others, they stated that parts were useless in their eyes. However, I would get phone calls at home from helpless associates when someone was there and needed something. Sure, they may not be profit leaders, but having people at least slightly knowledgable would make the store look a lot better.

    They force cell phones and plans down your throat, but they change so often that it is impossible to be educated on them. They also try to do too much. Example: We sold at one time Verizon, Verizon Pre-pay, Sprint, Sprint business, Tracfone, Virgin, and T-Mobile. That is over a hundred different plans and phones. The average worker there is lucky to tie his shoes and remember to wear a belt.

    They have tried all of these stop-gap measures. Toys, Christmas, Videogames, Sattellite TV, Cell phones, home theatre, and digital cameras. They jump in half-assed, fail, and give up within three months. How can any business survive like that? Their big deal was the Xbox. They ended up offering the Xbox at Christmas a couple years back, and promoted it like crazy, in this massive bundle that was MORE expensive than buying each piece seperatly at any store. Their response to me bringing this fact up: Discontinue the product line and give up on videogames. Sticking each store with over 40 of the large third-party Xbox controllers which continued to get marked down until they were $2.97 and still not sold.

    They have no vision. They have no goal. They just throw as much spaghetti at the wall and hope something will stick... y'know like Zip Zaps and Xmods... oh, wait they flopped too.

    --
    http://teasphere.wordpress.com - A little spot of tea
  87. Maybe by XMilkProject · · Score: 1

    Maybe if Radioshack started selling electrical components/semiconductors again then they could keep some customers. Instead they are focusing on crappy cell phones and sub-par consumer electronics. I'm lucky if I can find an LED in a radioshack anymore, much less something like a 555/556 timer that would have been commonplace there a few years ago.

    --
    Big ones, small ones, some as big as yer 'ead!
    Give 'em a twist, a flick o' the wrist...
    1. Re:Maybe by Secrity · · Score: 1

      From what I can see, electronic parts and certain accessories are the only thing that RS carries that differentiates itself from Best Buy, CompUSA, Target, Wal-Mart and the other big box stores. It might be a good thing for RS to greatly reduce the number of stores and concentrate on geeky things that other brick and mortar stores don't carry. If RS did this, they would also have to replace ALL of their current sales people.

      I wouldn't count on RS keeping it's electronics parts section: from tfa: RadioShack said the new plan could take 18 months, but it might be 36 months, to close as many as 700 stores and two distribution centers and to clear out at least half of the inventory stocked on shelves and counters to make room for products people want.It would be nice if RS thought that parts were "products people want", but somehow I doubt it. Part of the problem with RS parts (other than piss poor quality) is that the sales people don't have a clue. Actually, I think that it can be said that the biggest problem with RS is that the sales people don't have a clue, the second biggest problem is that RS has no focus on what it wants to carry. Why is a tiny store selling home theater systems and computers? Another example is satellite radio, everybody who sells satellite radio sells both XM and Sirius; RS carries ONLY Sirius radios.

    2. Re:Maybe by XMilkProject · · Score: 1

      Your right about the sales people, they are asshats.

      I don't need help doing my shopping at RadioShack, so I'd just assume they left me alone, yet they constantly chime in with random lies which I'm sure cuase big problems for customers that actually need advice/help in choosing a product.

      As a recent example, I went into the local RS to try to grab an HDMI cable to hook my HDMI DVD player to the HDMI port on my television. There was a place for them on the rack, but none hanging there, so I went to ask the clerk if there were any more elsewhere in the store. He then started trying to make conversation as these RS clerks always do, and asked me what I was hooking up. When I said I was hooking up my DVD player, he responded: "What are you going to use to hook up the video? You need some component cables too?".

      I explained that the video would be going through the HDMI cable, that IS what they are for after all.... But he tried to convince me that HDMI was only for audio. I went and got the cable from BestBuy btw.

      I can only imagine the trouble a customer would go through if they didn't have prior knowledge of the technologies.

      --
      Big ones, small ones, some as big as yer 'ead!
      Give 'em a twist, a flick o' the wrist...
    3. Re:Maybe by XO · · Score: 1

      uh.. LEDs and 555/556 units are some of the higher volume products that they sell actually.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  88. It's Called Integrity!! by Black-Man · · Score: 1

    If if you're lying on your resum - for your entire career - wtf else are you lying about? They should of fired the ahole long ago - you better believe if he was some lacky he would have been gone long ago.

    1. Re:It's Called Integrity!! by flyinwhitey · · Score: 1

      "If if you're lying on your resum..."

      It makes no difference when you're making the company money.

      Save the "if he lied about x then what about y..." nonsense. If i were to poll the entire world, my guess is that the most common form of "lying" is doctoring your resume. So let's stop acting like it matters, especially when the job is to make money.

      No, it doesn't make it right, just irrelevant.

      --
      How pathetic are you that you follow me from topic to topic and waste all your mod points at once modding me down?
    2. Re:It's Called Integrity!! by typical · · Score: 1

      See, the thing is, companies wouldn't ask for a degree if it didn't find some correlation useful in making hiring decisions.

      Sure, this guy has proven himself, but if they keep him now, they set an example for everyone *else* that applies at Radio Shack to lie on their resume and manage to keep it quiet for a couple years. There's a significant cost to the company there.

      The point is, they want to make very clear that lying about yourself to the company has a severe cost -- it will landmine your career for your entire time at the company.

      --
      Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
    3. Re:It's Called Integrity!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You dont have any real-world experience do you.

      Companiers that require everyone to have aBS or higher is typically doing so so they can "brag" about it or some nimrod way up in management got it in his head thet nobody is worth anything without it because he has one.

      Degree = nothing. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.. well it does mean that you had or your parents had the money to send you to go and party for a few years. You gain nothing from college education that you can not get on your own. Sure some resources there are a benefit but you certianly can do 99% of your education on your own in your own home. Hell many world changing discoveries and inventions are done in the garages and basements of non degree holding people.

      Any foo that thinks that a degree means anything other than money is pretty darn shallow.

  89. RadioShack's problems. by Bill+the+Bilby · · Score: 1

    For everyone in this thread who is biatching about RS asking for names and addresses- they havn't asked for names and addresses for OVER TWO YEARS now- unless you are buying something that requires delivery, or is a service-based product. Even when they DID ask for names and addresses, it was so they could look up your receipt if/when you lost it, so they could like... help you.

    Gasp.

    Radioshack Canada:
    RadioShack Canada has been owned for years by Circuit City, who bought it way back in the 70s along with the remainders of RadioShack's attempt at a big-box store. Recently, Circuit City sold the chain to Best Buy, who attempted to retain the RadioShack name despite the fact that the original agreement prohibited that. They lost that court case, hence the change in store names.

    Parts:
    For all of you complaining about the lack of parts in stores- if there are no parts in the stores anymore, it's YOUR fault. Where did you go when you needed parts? RadioShack? bet not, unless it was a pinch case. No company is dumb enough to keep carrying things that do not sell anymore. The same thing happened with high-end stereo stuff, car stereos, less common ICs, and radio gear. No one came in to buy it, so they stopped carrying it.

    Besides, other a few stores in malls, most stores still carry an almost complete line of common parts- resisters, capaciters, common ICs, connectors, solder, pencils and irons, light bulbs, batteries, and cables.

    RadioShack has been, and continues to be, the biggest seller of mobile phones in the country. They typically outsell even the company stores for the carriers they have.

    Profit Issues:
    Despite what any news articles are telling you, there is a very real reason why RadioShack's profits sucked in the fourth quarter- product supply. The mainly promoted products were iPod, MP3 players, Sirius Sattelite Radio, mobile phones, and digital cameras. All of these are really low-margin items, but the corperate structure was unable to supply stores with the accessories and parts required to actually turn a profit. Pretty simple issue, in theory.

    Now, all of this is publicly available information, but just so you know, yes I DO work for RadioShack, and have worked for them for almost 5 years. I too am frustrated by the fact that we don't carry amature radio gear (had my ticket for 7 years or so now) but I understand why we don't. The selection of product has changed, and changes, because the market has changed. People go to extremely large stores like Best Buy and Wal-mart to buy a lot of their more expensive gear because it's cheaper- due mostly to the fact that those stores either short-shift on their service, use questionable managing methodology, or both. RadioShack is trying to be the guys that you go to because you want an answer for your question, or because you have a need but no idea how to fill it. They'll never be able to compete in price- because other companies can't compete in service.

    Oh yeah, the new website? It IS competetive in pricing, and carries much that they can't afford to carry in stores. Still has good service, too.

    I'm not saying that they've done it perfectly- far from it. There is vast room for improvement. I've been to some stores where the avarage IQ of an employee is lower then the temperature outside. Most stores aren't like that, however. In general, I think that RadioShack has done all right, competing in a world that currently values lower prices over better service.

  90. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    I need to inform you that you really need to go and visit www.jameco.com.

    90,000 more parts much higher quality (and nothing that has been sititng on shelves or in surplus for decades, last time I bought an octal buffer at ratshac the date code was from 1985) plus it allows you to enter the 20th century and start building surface mount.

    Yes surface mount is as easy as DIP you simply need to get used to it. I find DIP to be a horrible pain compared to surface mount now and I only spent $200.00 on a set of hot tweesers and a very tiny soldering station (both in jameco's catalog) in order to do surface mount really easy.

    Nothing sold in radio shack's small parts bins have been really useful to anyone for decades.

    --
    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
  91. Radio Shack = Cellphone store by TheSync · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I stopped going to RadioShack very often when it became a cellphone store.

    You would go into the store, and the one or two people working there would be on the phone busy trying to get someone's cellphone service working. You would wait for 20 minutes to check out. They didn't care if you were buying $10 of stuff, since they were in the process of selling $100 cellphones plus the monthly service.

    The ironic thing is that despite leaving the chip selling business, RadioShack is one of the few places you can drop by and pick up a wire wrap tool and wire wrap wire. But I need to do that once or twice a year.

    R/S has no differentiator now. If you want a cellphone, the carriers have their own stores that are better staffed and more familiar with the products. If you want home electronics, it is hard to beat Best Buy, and for that matter the low-end stuff is at Target as well. The one differentiator of R/S in the past was the electronics parts, which have been gutted.

    1. Re:Radio Shack = Cellphone store by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      R/S has no differentiator now.

      They do have one differentiator: they only sell obsolete versions of some computer hardware. I needed an IDE cable so I figured I'd stop by RadioShack (they *must* have that, right?) No, they only sell a 40-conductor version, which last worked on ATA-33 busses. We looked in the catalog and they didn't have an 80-conductor version.

      At least they haven't thrown out the switches display, but it's rare that I'm in a rush for a switch. I *do* like trying out the action of a switch in person, which you can't get on the Internet, but I fear they can't survive as a switch store.

      The Mid-80's Radio Shack was a great place to shop, and I spent plenty of money in there.

      --
      My God, it's Full of Source!
      OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
  92. They could never break even selling components by bigtrike · · Score: 1

    They'd have to move a LOT of transistors in order to pay wages, rent, utilities, etc. Even at an insanely overinflated price of $1.01 each ($1 profit per part), they'd still need to sell about 15 or 20 of those per hour, every hour, per person in the shop, to break even. Somehow I doubt there are enough tinkerers out there to provide radio shack with enough business to make money considering all the locations they have. I doubt this because I rarely run into people buying electronic parts at radio shack, and in order to have these kinds of numbers there would have to be a number of them in there most of the time (and you'd see huge crowds on the weekends). Most people buying these parts only use radio shack for something they need immediately, and mail order the rest. People don't spend $50 or $100 on components there when they can buy it elsewhere for $10 or $20. Compare that to a cel phone which can pay costs for several hours with a single sale which may take a sales rep 10 or 20 minutes.

    imho, their real problem is that their overpriced electronic accessories such as headphones, video cables, etc. can now be bought elsewhere for lower prices. Best Buy and Circuit City have been showing up in more and more places, and offer items that traditionally could be purchased at Radio Shack, but not at typical appliance stores which were never big on the accessories.

  93. Radioshack Sucks. by hobot · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I worked for Radio Shack for about 2 months, and it is no suprise to me that it is losing market share and closing a lot of stores, I am mildly educated when it comes to electronics, so I expected to come in and recieve if not a large amount of training, useful hints and such from the staff.

    What I got was 5 flash based tutorials on how to sell cell phones and sirius radio systems, suffice to say I quit asap, I dont like feeling the fool when a man comes in asking for something and my company has not given me any training on how to do my job.

  94. Low volume, high margin... by alexhmit01 · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack still cells things for tinkerers, but it moved from the entire back wall to a small chest... Things like transistors, buzzers, etc... They used to sell manuals, kits, and the parts, now just the parts... Sure the Internet made stuff available, but my dad and I did the kits together, and bread-boarded a few fun projects... they could sell projects...

    Those are high margin products, have you ever bought a little item there, it is something like $4-$5... a small do-it-yourself crystal radio would cost $40-$50 in parts... that's not low margin, it's low volume.

    Instead they went into mediocre markets... They either should have withdrawn from malls to focus on projects, or focused on things that would sell in malls... Computer games, RC cars, etc., all should sell in a mall. Satellite systems and cel phones? I guess cell phones, but the kiosk in the hallway competes with you!

    Also, being a Sprint store was stupid once Sprint entered the market, they used to be THE store for Sprint, then Sprint opened their own stores. Radio Shack SHOULD be the neutral providers, but only carrying Sprint (and now Sprint/Cingular) and only carrying Dish (instead of DirecTV/Dish) they aren't the "we got answers" people...

    If they carried all providers and were open about the minor differences, they'd have a niche... but they don't.

    Good luck, you were a terrific company, I loved the 150-in-one and 200-in-one kits. My cousin worked for you for 15 years... I hope the company finds its roots and grows profitability.

    Alex

  95. We've got questions, and apparently, by Danzigism · · Score: 2, Informative
    you've got the answers... simply because any computer related question I ever asked someone from Radioshack, never was answered.. of course this was atleast 10+ and you could still purchase the rare, yet available, Tandy Pentium 60mhz..

    i also really think Radioshack has let themselves go downhill.. for example, selling $60 Monster cables instead having the generic versions for like $5.00.. they have some of the cheap ones, but not all.. and also, what happened to all the cool breadboard shit they used to have?? capacitors, chips, boards, all that cool shit?? wish they would of kept up with that kind of shit.. release newer things.. Its pretty simple really.. They took the geek factor out of RadioShack.. once the average geek can no longer ride his bike down to his nearest radioshack for a computer part, the radioshack starts doing poor business.. stop trying to sell crappy computers and monster cables!! bring the breadboards back too! haha

    --
    *plays the Apogee theme song music*
    1. Re:We've got questions, and apparently, by XO · · Score: 1

      No, you couldn't. The last Tandy computer was a 486.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    2. Re:We've got questions, and apparently, by Danzigism · · Score: 1

      well, i'm not totally sure, but i distinctly remember the Tandy Pentium 60, with speakers built on the side and everything.. surprisingly, i've looked everywhere on google, and cannot get a full list of every tandy computer ever made.. but until then, i will have to disagree with you simply since I can remember seeing the ad..

      --
      *plays the Apogee theme song music*
    3. Re:We've got questions, and apparently, by XO · · Score: 1

      The last Tandy was the Sensation 2, a 486/66. :) I worked there at the end of the Tandy line.. after that it was AST brand. Tandy sold the plants to AST, who then sold the same machines, and a few more models, identically to the Tandy's, but with the AST name.. and then they went under.

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    4. Re:We've got questions, and apparently, by Danzigism · · Score: 1

      cool, thanks for the informative post.. after your first comment, i tried researching a bit.. i emailed radioshack asking what the last tandy was.. they gave me a model number, but didn't tell me what processor it had.. thanks again

      --
      *plays the Apogee theme song music*
    5. Re:We've got questions, and apparently, by XO · · Score: 1

      The AST models were virtually identical, and there was a Pentium 60 (maybe 66) that was identical to the Tandy Sensation, just with a different nameplate..

      I'm just so full of useless radioshack knowledge, it's almost disgusting :D

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
    6. Re:We've got questions, and apparently, by Danzigism · · Score: 1

      hahaha sweet.. i had a friend that worked at our local radioshack.. needless to say, I spent a lot of time there just because who doesn't want to be surrounded by gadjets and computers? especially when our radioshack was the first location in a 45 mile radius to get broadband internet.. it was neat to witness for the first time.. they definitely have an interesting past.. i see them trying to become more like stores such as Best Buy.. it'd be nice to see them make a comeback in some other way.. i bet its hard being a reseller of products like digital cameras, pdas, cell phones, when there's so many other places that do it.. we'll see what happens i guess

      --
      *plays the Apogee theme song music*
  96. This guy's contributions by Simonetta · · Score: 1

    This guy's contributions seem to consist of mostly getting all the store employees to nag customers for the last four digits of their phone number. This has come to epitomise the arrogance of corporate directives worldwide. It has probably driven more people away from Radio Shack than anything else.

        For me as a techno-geek, I used to be drawn into a Radio Shack like a magnet. Now I'm repelled from the place in the same manner. They used to have a great selection of just the right parts. In fact, the IC's sold at Radio Shack in the 1980s (like the SN94281 sound generator) are the only chips in the world that have actually gone up in value from that period. I bought my first computer at Radio Shack, a CoCo MC-10. It's still supported on the web by a few die-hards. It was nearly impossible to get information from Radio Shack about the stuff that they would sell.

        As for whether this guy's lack of sitting in boring and silly classes for five years had anything to do with Radio Shack's increasing irrelevance, I won't even guess. As for his lying, his big offense is lying to his fellow executives, not to the customers and shareholders. That is common business practice.

  97. ...Of which Radio Shack doesn't stock by Ucklak · · Score: 1

    I am of the tinkering crowd and built a synthesizer at age 18 that was inspired by the Moog design. Radio Shack has nothing the serious tinkerer needs. They have a few components but nothing really useful. Your industrial radio shop or electronic component warehouse has more but those places are not convienent to get to when you don't have a car and get dropped off at the mall when you're 12 years old.

    --
    if you steal from one source, that is plagiarism, if you steal from many, well, that's just research.
  98. lying wont be tolerated by peter303 · · Score: 1

    >Two things to consider: educational background has little relevance to one's capabiltiy of doing many corporate jobs

    Agreed. But in this competitative "holier than thou" world people wont tolerate lying, espcially in a mediocre company.

  99. Chihuahuas and CEOs by typical · · Score: 2, Insightful

    educational background has little relevance to one's capabiltiy of doing many corporate jobs.

    The problem is not that the guy didn't have whatever degree he said he had.

    The problem is that he lied to the company about it.

    A long time ago, there was someone who had blogged about applying for some kind of very sensitive job at the FBI (or maybe it was the NSA) posting about the interview process. The point is that they asked all kinds of seemingly senseless questions, mixed with questions that he considered invasive and not relevant to the job. "Have you ever put a finger inside your anus for sexual pleasure" and things like that. Someone else said that they were familiar with the process and the interviewer didn't really care about the answers -- they just wanted to see whether when the person was under intense pressure, they'd start trying to lie. So a failing response to "have you ever had sex with a dog" would be "Err....heh...well, not as such" with the lie detector going off and a passing one "Hell, yes. I fucked a Chihuahua five years ago in Mexico City and it was *great*!"). If the interviewer's take is that the candidate is lying on any of the questions, they pass on them. I've no idea as to the accuracy of the posts; however, it certainly struck me as an interesting approach.

    If someone starts lying to their employer when they think it's to their benefit to do so, the employer loses the ability to trust them. Better to have a slightly worse employee whose statements can be trusted than one who might do a good job but produces useless status information when backed into a corner. Because there *will* be times when people are scared to tell the truth "Is this project done?" "Are you going to make deadline?" etc but it really, really matters that the people above them get accurate information from them.

    His lack of success as CEO can just as easily be explained by a) inheriting a mess, b) lack of board support, and c) not the right man for the job.

    Or just that CEOs are used as scapegoats. They know about this when getting hired, and this is why the golden parachutes.

    As long as the company does well, the CEO can interview with Fortune and so forth to build his reputation. However, if it goes downhill, the company *will* blame things on this one guy, fire him, hire another CEO, incur steep "one-time restructuring costs" to "implement the new guy's ideas", and with the costs they've shifted to that quarter, be able to report profitability immediately after getting the new CEO.

    --
    Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
  100. Radio Shack = Circuit City? by atomic_toaster · · Score: 1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Radio Shack recently get bought out by Circuit City anyway? I thought they were all called "The Source (By Circuit City)" now. Or is that just here in Canada?

    1. Re:Radio Shack = Circuit City? by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

      There are tons of Radio Shack outlets down here in South Carolina. They just built a new one about 2 miles from my house. Which I think is part of their problem. Even if Radio Shack were still a great place to buy electronic components, there are at least 5 or 10 stores in this moderate-sized southern town alone. That's ridiculous.

  101. Real reason=bad branding/purchasing/merchandising by adzoox · · Score: 1

    No one has really touched on the REAL reason Radioshack has lost money and is just saying, well "we are restructuring". Restructuring usually means cutting back on full time employees, paying part timers less, cutting out at as little executive management as possible, and closing a few stores.

    I don't know if any of you have ever been to a Fry's Electronics or not, but it is nothing short of a geek paradise ... they are like an Apple Store, a Circuit City, a Barnes and Noble, a Best Buy, and a Radioshack ... all under one roof. (Outpost.com is Fry's online storefront) They sell pretty much everything that Radioshack does ... they don't sell much if anything under their own brand name.

    Tandy corporation, which owns Radioshack seems to think the Radioshack namebrand is a strong name ... so therefore they brand everything with the Radioshack logo. Only until recently (the last 5 years or so) has Radioshack started selling a lot of non branded electronics. A lot of items that Radioshack carries and has carried in the past ... have been rebrands of other products ... some with their supposedly prestigious name Optimus.

    Here are the key areas Radioshack has truly failed and most likely can never recover ...

    1) Too many store locations ... in my area we have one every 10 miles or so. Do people need Radioshack like McDonald's?

    2) Rebranding instead of carrying unique items ... I know of few people who actually want to own Radioshack branded products ... in fact it bothers me that simple cables have the Radioshack name embossed on their connector ends ... I feel cheap just plugging it in. Radioshack's name is not a strong name brand ... of course nothing with the word "shack" in it when referring to high end consumer items is appealing.

    3) Radio Shack has the same problem as Toys R Us ... they sell things in their retail stores that kids simply do not want. The most recent example I can think of ... Cat In the Hat remote control cars ... from the Cat In The Hat live action movie ... this movie was out 2 years ago and some stores STILL have stock! Merchandise managers and purchasers are just plain clueless when it comes to what it's customers want.

    4 Most Radioshack stores I have visited (even if newly renovated or newly opened) are crowded or messy ... one thing the Apple Retail Stores excel at is cleanliness and focus on product ... eventhough each store has thousands of items for sale.

    5) Competitors like Fry's are expanding and offering a greater selection ... kind of ties in to # 4

    6) Their commercials are some of the worst in the advertising industry and almost solely focus on cellphones. Really ... Radioshack commercials are often idiotic featuring ignorant or whiney characters. Their Christmas holiday ads were ineffective.

    I have always thought that Radioshack's should try to sell Apple computers. The deal with HP was very awkward and from what I know ... HP reps rarely visited Radioshack stores. This would be an opportune way for Radioshack to get true geeks in their store and get them a fan base that would visit and buy because of loyalty. It would also allow radioshack to carry a truly prestigious name in their stores. Maybe Apple would even share in some advertising and merchandising.

    --
    Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
  102. Do you want to be in charge? by typical · · Score: 1

    Do you *want* to manage?

    It's a different job, and the fact that there is an organizational hierarchy (because, you know, you don't need one organizer for every bottom-tier worker) doesn't mean that those people are "better" than you. Okay, maybe at the low-level management positions, senior workers generally wind up being team leads. But there's a big difference between low-level management and middle management.

    Granted C** positions probably are given somewhat more than they should get, given that they have a lot of input into their own salary. Michael Eisner infamously made $1M salary + $7.25M bonus in 2004. Is he really worth the many, many bottom-tier workers that cost the company? I doubt it. But, on the other hand, not that many CEOs make that much, Eisner got booted partly as a result of making this much.

    --
    Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
  103. You answered your own question by rsborg · · Score: 1
    Why did they go from a niche market to an overpriced K-B Toys and cellphones?

    Think about it, there must be a competitor that provides a significantly cheaper price point... being a distant 2nd place in a niche market is not a good thing.

    When I'm breadboarding a hardware project, I order online. I know the local Radio Shack doesn't have parts.

    ... and the answer. Think: most other hobbyists/hardware geeks probably figured this out sooner, and cut out the middleman. RadioShack really didn't have much choice except to do what they did (keep selling the profitable parts at a higher margin + pimp out their locations to interested folks).

    The same thing is happening in photography (take a look at your local photo/film shop... they're also pimping out their store to cell-phone vendors, etc) and other niche markets as well.

    --
    Make sure everyone's vote counts: Verified Voting
    1. Re:You answered your own question by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      But, they're a niche player in the markets that they work in. I mean, they had a metallic green RoboSapien and a red RoboSapien V2- wow... (I'll admit the RS exclusive RoboSapien is a neat addition to my animatronic toy collection, but I'm pretty certain that most of those toys ended up being bought from someplace other than RatShack- I mean, $69 vs $99, c'mon...)

      There's a reason they posted such a dismal last quarter.

      They had a good edge on sound systems. They ceded it.
      They had a decent market on TV's. They all but ditched it.
      They had the top Personal/Business Computer lineup at one point in time- had they pressed it, they could have given IBM a run for their money. They ceded it.
      They had the top of the line Portable computer product lineup. They shuttered that division's doors, even though it was a decently profitable division by itself.

      I go into RatShack for electronics tools when I don't want to go into Fry's these days- and for the odd part that doesn't show up in an Auto Parts store... Nothing else. They DO have nice electronics tools, but that is insufficient to keep them afloat.

      Radio Shack is a business trying to find a place to be. They used to have it, but then they either shedded the lines of business that kept them marginally profitable or ran them into the ground because of lack of competant management. I do wish them well, but I don't know how they're going to at least keep a toehold on things.

      --
      I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the State of Texas
    2. Re:You answered your own question by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1
      ... and the answer. Think: most other hobbyists/hardware geeks probably figured this out sooner, and cut out the middleman. RadioShack really didn't have much choice except to do what they did (keep selling the profitable parts at a higher margin + pimp out their locations to interested folks).
      I guess it depends what and how much you need. If all I need are a couple 33 ohm resistors, and a few cheap LED's, it's going to cost less to get them at the local radio shack (which are everywhere) than to drive half an hour to Fry's or even buy them from Newark online once you add on shipping and handling. While I don't flat out disagree, I'm more inclined to side with the theory that their attempts to make the store more popular with the general public left it without many of the things nerds were looking for while at the same time placed them in a much more competitive market. Even Walmart sells mobile phones now and they have extremely low margins to compete with. Very few places sell solder and breadboards in small quantities.
  104. Alas Poor Radio Shack... by blueZhift · · Score: 1

    Alas poor Radio Shack, I knew thee well... I used to spend hours in the Radio Shack after school programming on the TRS-80 floor model (damn! i'm old!) and looking back, it was pretty cool of them to let me do that. So most of my Radio Shack memories are good ones, but as others have already said, RS doesn't really seem to have a place in today's market. I would hope that perhaps they would go back to their roots and court the hobbyist once more. They wouldn't need nearly as many stores to do that. But I don't think that is likely to happen and in this world of the Patriot Act and DMCA, it is unlikely they'd be able to carry the sort of things the hobbyist market is interested in.

    As for the CEO's education, the real issue there is the fact that he lied and more importantly to Radio Shack, he f'd up! It may not be all of his fault, but as the CEO you get to take the blame. Honestly, I'm actually surprised that RS is still in business at all. If you have a car, there's no good reason to go there at all since the selection is relatively limited and the prices are not competitive with Best Buy, Circuit City, and internet sources. And these days you can buy cell phones and plans pretty much anywhere.

    Anyway, good luck to them.

  105. Rebuttle by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Well FYI. I do have a B.S. in Computer Science, and Minors In Mathmatics, and Music. I am the process of entering Grad School. I work as a W-2 (AKA Full Time) Sr. Consultant and I aid many of the worlds largest and or fastest growing companies in Software Archecture with specilization in human User Interface and gentle migration from older technologies to newer ones. I tend to make more then then many of the PDHs make. But what you are missing is that PHDs are very focused in one area and are not nessarly smarter then any one else, and I usually get fustrated when they flash their PHDs to make them feel like big men. Where they should stick to their area and leave me to my area. The reason why I often get pulled to do these low level tech jobs is because the guys with the PHD intimate people in thinking the problem is bigger then it should and they will need to talk to the top person about the problem, while "Lowly" Tech support could fix the problem themselves just as easilly, they feel that they are above simple Tech Support and if they have a problem it is only something that only the designer can fix. So they call me and explain the problem, having checked it on my end and find that it is working fine, I normally go to their work station and see how they did it, figuring they may have done something that I haven't tested before. Then to see that it was a simple network issue. Having wasted my client hundreds of dollars looing into the problem which could be placed elseware. A lot of people with PHDs are really cool, but there are the minority of people who think the PHD makes them supior to any non-phd, person really makes me sick. They have an example of that in the archives of User Friendly that gives an exadrated view of this.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  106. "You got questions? We've got blank stares..." by smartfart · · Score: 1
    The problem I've always had (and I've been "shopping" there since 1975 or so) is that you can't ever find what you're looking for. Examples:

    • They used to sell electronic "starter" kits with maybe an IC or two, with example schematics. I bought several of those back in the 70s until I wised up. No matter which kit or project I chose to build, I could not purchase all of the needed parts (resistors, capacitors, etc.) required to finish the projects.
    • Here's a classic... walk into Radio Trash looking for cable connectors to go from one jack to another, say from a TV into a stereo amp. Search through the parts bins for 20 minutes, leaving with a chain of adapters 10 inches long, when all you need it one adapter going from plug A to jack B.
    • Even better... leave the store after 20 minutes of not being able to piece together any combination of adapters to connect the above gear.

    To me, it's never been worth it to shop at Radio Trash. They don't have what I want, but every clerk in the store will act like he's an engineer called by God to help ignorant slobs like you. There's nothing I hate more than being insulted by some moron salesman who thinks he knows more than me. Condescending bastards.

    If you ask me, I hope someone else steps into the void to provide consumer gear and parts. Any company with a clue doing so would immediately get my word-of-mouth recommendation.

    1. Re:"You got questions? We've got blank stares..." by XO · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the only common thing between all your points here is... You.

        You are what the rest of us call "pompus know it all assholes." You obviously think you know everything better than everyone else, but complain that it's everyone else who doesn't know anything and thinks they do.

          Howdy!

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  107. It's a software age by lildogie · · Score: 1

    I stopped building electronics in 1980 when I could get my hands on a cheap computer.

    Software satisfies my creative urges the same as electronics did.

    Plus it's cheaper and I make a lot fewer trips to Radio Shack.

  108. And for the grand finale ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We will just go out of business!

    I mean really, how can a company like this stay in business so long?
    The $#%! Shack has been shafting the US for years and now you can barely
    find a store left that sells what their claim to fame was ... electronic
    components!

    Radio Shack, please go away!

  109. Radio Shack and tinkerers by typical · · Score: 1

    They ought to get back to their roots...providing components for tinkerers. I know there's not as much potential profit in this, but if they were to partner with the editors of Make Magazine, they could become the new hope for the home brew crowd.

    I've been wondering for a while how Radio Shack keeps making money with that dusty component box in the back. I mean, I love it (I can get parts without waiting for mail order!), but they *can't* sell many components, even at the huge markup they ask, unless maybe they're situated in a town where HP has a big EE lab or something and everyone likes to tinker.

    --
    Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
    1. Re:Radio Shack and tinkerers by kimvette · · Score: 1

      The thing is, they were in business for what, 80 years catering primarily to the hobbyist market?

      --
      The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
  110. walmart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Walmart kills off the mom and pop niche markets. Anyone who is still in denial at that stop reading now.

      Walmart is now killing off the smaller franchised niche markets. The *very* obscure stuff that can usually only be gotten at a Radio Shack is not enough to support an entire store, that market is just too small in most areas. Radio Shack came about as an outgrowth of consumers repairing their products, or building them, TVs, receivers and HAM gear, etc, something that is just about impossible now for most people, impossible or not even close to being cost and time practical. When the tiniest component breaks, devices become total junk and it's cheaper to just replace the entire device. (I've been in this since tube radios and floor cabinet sized with 9 inch black and white screen TVs, cut me slack on the generalized observations, they are true facts, and I have even stopped trying to repair most devices if they mess up, just isn't worth it) With the exception of a few weeks around Christmas, most radio shacks don't get the business they got even ten years ago. A handful of geeks and HAMS isn't enough to keep a store like that in business. Most geeks and HAMS shop online now, with the odd "rats, I need a whatever capacitor or LED" and if they are already driving by a RS they may stop and look to see if they have one. That just isn't enough for a viable business.

    It won't matter who they put in for a CEO. Now if Kmart/Sears were to buy them out and move their operations inside those large department stores, ie, take over the electronics area with a lot of branded stuff, perhaps they could eek it out a few more years, but even then...walmart. Wall-handwriting. You just aren't going to compete in any large scale in brick and mortar with those folks. If there's ANY sort of reasonable local market that is worthwhile, walmart will find room on the shelf for it.

  111. Makes me sick ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everytime someone mentions that they went to Radio Shack to get ... I tell them to please go anywhere but there. Plenty of places sell what they used to and at better prices. Stop feeding this dissfunctional machine and let them go under.

  112. Maybe now by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack will start hiring people with some real education for their salespeople- this would be a vast improvement for geeks everywhere who currently need a Radio Shack Part Number or a physical description to get the part they need, where you'd think just the name of the part should be enough. How damn hard is it to figure out what a .2 picofarad capacitor is?!?!?!?

    --
    SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
    1. Re:Maybe now by LaCosaNostradamus · · Score: 1

      Overall, that shouldn't happen, since hiring to upskill also produces upward pressure on wages -- and corporations now are enjoying a fad in decreasing wages. Still, with all the unemployed around, overqualified people are falling into (lower) positions, so your musings might well come to pass.

      --
      [You have a stable society when some nut guns down a schoolyard and the law doesn't change.]
    2. Re:Maybe now by tinkertim · · Score: 1

      Sadly I find it harder and harder to walk into a Radio Shack and find any real selection of electronic parts.

      I remember when I could walk in with a list of everything I needed and walk out in an hour spending about $20 .. including a small blank PCB to etch and even some etching solution if I needed it.

      Now all the "good" stuff is huddled way back in a corner, often not priced and reminds me more of lima beans segragated on my dinner plate than a hobbyist resource.

      Hopefully the new guy makes Radio Shack "Radio Shack" again, and not just a re-seller for crap Compaq desktops and cellular phones.

      Even the scanner selection has gone down hill.

      I think it all started when they asked for your name, address and telephone at checkout. Ever since then the've degenerated into just another clone of circuit city, imho :)

  113. Is this the same Radio Shack... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that Microsoft is claiming saved millions of dollars by getting rid of their previous IT technology and standardizing on Microsoft's? Just think about how much money they would have saved had they stuck with their previous technology and not done a wholesale replacement. Why they could have spent that money toward making sure that the darned stores were sufficiently stocked with things to buy. I can't remember a time when I didn't go to a local Radio Shack with a list of items I needed only to find that half of them were out of stock. And then come in a week later to find that the same items were still out of stock.

  114. Re:I Hate RadioShack by jridley · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the only reason I have DIP stuff anymore is because it's easier to plug into breadboards when prototyping.

  115. Tom Swift by typical · · Score: 1

    I've read some older fiction -- there were lots of books from forty or more years ago where the hero was an engineer. Tom Swift (and Tom Swift Jr.), Danny Dunn, and so forth.

    The problem is, in the media that kids see today, in the video games and movies, how often is it an inventor or engineer that is a hero? In the content in the 80s, when I was a kid, "hero inventors" were already only in dusty books. Today, you get movies where you have the "action hero" as the main character, maybe with a sidekick "computer guy" who probably spends most of his time breaking into computers or doing other illegal stuff. There are no *positive* idols to provide kids with -- just the guy that shoots people in righteous anger and the hacker type.

    Sigh.

    Maybe Dexter's Lab, but there the wonders of technological advancement is not the point of the cartoon, but more of a backdrop.

    Okay, maybe the earlier stuff was just propaganda to get kids excited about and interested in engineering...but, you know, it worked.

    --
    Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
  116. Sale of Canadian arm a coincedence? by grimmy · · Score: 1

    I wonder if the sale of the Canadian arm or Circuit City has anything to do with the loss of profits?

    There really isn't any competition as far as electronics and accessorys here. Sure we have Best Buy and Future shop (wich is now owned by Best Buy) but they don't really sell the same "area" of electronics.

  117. Cool things about Radio Shack by typical · · Score: 1

    They keep all their manuals and technical information online on their website, and let you search for nearby stores *and* stock availability in those stores. I've found Radio Shack to have one of the better retailer websites out there.

    --
    Any program relying on (nontrivial) preemptive multithreading will be buggy.
  118. Overly agressive salesmen=sleazy atmosphere by elrous0 · · Score: 1
    I go to Radio Shack for electronic components (the only thing they carry that everybody else doesn't). But I don't like to. The whole place has an unpleasent vibe. The salesmen are so agressive and pestering that I'm almost tempted to carry a taser in with me for protection. I go in to buy a simple soldering tip and it's "No, I'm not giving you my full address and phone number", "No, I don't want to buy any batteries, on sale or otherwise", "No I don't want your credit card", "No, I don't care about your specials", "No, I don't want a cell phone".

    It's gotten to where I walk into the place with a bad attitude from the start and seek to piss off as many employees as I can to send them the clear message to LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE. I finally got the staff at my local store to hate me enough that they I can finally just go buy something in peace. It's a pretty sad statement that I have to go to those lengths just to avoid their harassment.

    -Eric

    --
    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
    1. Re:Overly agressive salesmen=sleazy atmosphere by srhuston · · Score: 1

      I feel your pain... last time I went into one, the clerk asked if he could help me. I said no, I can probably find what I need. Trying to be as "helpful" as possible, he proceeded to follow me around the store like a lost puppy, and insisted he could help me find what I need.

      Funniest look on his face when I said, "Fine. I need two solder-on PL-259s and reducers for RG8X." After a moment of stammering, I opened the drawer to my left without looking, and said, "They're in here."

      --
      Three dits, four dits, two dits, dah!
      Radio, radio, rah rah rah!
    2. Re:Overly agressive salesmen=sleazy atmosphere by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      I can totaly sympathise. I was in a RS purchasing an audio extension cable for something I was tinkering with. Not an imporant job I wanted it for, just something to work. The sales guy pushed the "gold tipped costs 4 times as much" cable on me about 5 times while ringing me up. I got so frustrated I just turned and walked out.

      The amazing part is the guy followed(!) me into the mall trying to get me to come back! I was *furious*! I haven't bought anything in that store since, though I do go in from time-to-time just to browse and to piss off the employees.

      --
      "Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"

      - Charles Darwin
    3. Re:Overly agressive salesmen=sleazy atmosphere by iamlucky13 · · Score: 1

      Isn't it great when they assume that you can't find your way around a store that is typically around 500 square feet?

      I'm a younger guy, so for several years I wondered why people actually went to Radio Shack. Then one day out of curiousity I actually walked a little deeper in than the Compaq display and discovered...The Drawers (queue dramatic music). I swear, you could base an entire retail chain on the electronic bits and pieces on the shelves and drawers in the back of Radio Shack: switches, LEDs, fuses, soldering tools, connectors, adapters, breadboards, wire, etc. If you added in cheap relays and power supplies, I would go nuts. Or is that what Radio Shack was?

    4. Re:Overly agressive salesmen=sleazy atmosphere by srhuston · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's what they used to be. Only instead of drawers, there were pegboard racks with all those bits hanging from them - usually with a sliding rack in front of them all with more bits hanging from it as well. Resistors, capacitors, DIP ICs (like someone else in these comments mentioned, the LM555 peg usually had a few cards hanging on it), diodes (both the kind that are supposed to emit light, and those that only do it once very quickly)... those were the days. Built an alarm system out of a few IR LEDs and receivers using relays as flip-flops, before I knew what a flip-flop was - just realized that if wired properly, a couple relays could be triggered and require another circuit to manually reset (hello, digital latch).

      Now, as I've become a ham and have more of an appreciation for all the gadgets I used to see hanging on those panels, I sorely miss them (along with Heathkit). There was recently a thread on a mailing list I belong to (for APRS, see here) that said a lot of the decline of Radio Shack's parts wall can be blamed on ourselves, and the fact that the store which used to actually carry ham radio equipment and parts only catered to a group of people which aren't as interested in any of that anymore and are on the decline. That may be true, and there may be catalog stores and online places to get the same stuff, but there's just something about browsing through a shelf of components to get the brain going with what you can build using all that.. stuff :>

      --
      Three dits, four dits, two dits, dah!
      Radio, radio, rah rah rah!
  119. Speaking of Radio "Shaq" by beisbol · · Score: 1

    Heck, maybe they should move Shaquille O'Neal over from his spokesman's job to CEO spot and really rename the company Radio-Shaq. He's more educated than this idiot Edmonson. He actually graduated from LSU with a bachelor's degree and he also got an MBA.

  120. Peter principle by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 1

    People rise to their own level of incompetence. Take a look at Jill Barad, former CEO of Mattel Toys. She was a boneheaded marketing flake who couldn't care less about any toy concept that wasn't 11.5 inches tall w/ blond hair (Jill's a brunette, go figure). She killed off most of the really creative toy concepts and they sank the company by spending a king's ransom on The Learning Company. As far as Radioshack is concerned, I only hope that they get back to their roots and stock more hobby electronics inventory and quit buying all those cheap made-in-China-by-the-supertanker-load toys. I pretty much cut my teeth in computers and electronics thanks to Radioshack in the late 70s. My first real summer job was writing commercial software for the TRS-80.

  121. Even simpler by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1
    I had bought a small electronic part, that came with a wallwart. I wanted to convert it to run on a battery pack. The connector was non-standard, but not THAT unusual

    Went to RS, with all the parts, and asked the guy if they had a connector to mate A & B.
    "No, I don't think we do"
    (WTF?? This is Radio Shack. In here somewhere is a connector that will mate these)
    He walked away..I found the part within about 5 minutes.

    Idiots.

  122. Re:You'd think people would have gotten the messag by khallow · · Score: 1

    Still, if you're trying to turn a company around, you don't do it with someone who lies about their education or work record.

  123. Did they cripple their brand name? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Reeling from a 62% drop in fourth quarter net income

    I've always wondered how much they hurt themselves by asking every customer for their name, phone number, etc. -- even those who pay cash for a $2 purchase.

    Years ago, I vowed never again to visit a radio shack after realizing that it was universal policy for them to irritate me every damn time.

    Is it possible that they pissed off enough people (like me), resulting in a permanent crippling of their brand name?

  124. Source of the REAL story at Ft Worth Star Telegram by JavaManJim · · Score: 1

    Ok, I live in Dallas and its all over the news here. Faked academic credentials. I have only seen vague comments before re this on /. So below are links to the actual stories. Pity about Forbes too. That story focuses on the business and not personalities. The WSJ in last Friday's RadioShack investor call did better by quoting the RS ethics statement - with no reply from RS.

    Resume is in question
    http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/special_packag es/special_reports/13870480.htm

    Pastor cannot verify RadioShack CEO's Account on Diploma
    http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/special_packag es/special_reports/13877117.htm

    This one is a different perspective on "don't need no diploma" but you do need ethics
    http://blogs.dfw.com/schnurmanator/2006/02/dave_ed mondsons.html#comments

    TUESDAY 02/14/05 WHEN ALL WAS REVEALED Oh the degree? It got burned in a fire....
    http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/13867927.htm

  125. The Shack put me where I am today by Hohlraum · · Score: 1

    My dad bought our first PC from them (tandy tl/2) when I was in junior high. It came with 2 Seirra Online games (Conquest of Camelot and Hero's Quest: So You Want To Be A Hero). I immediately became obsessed with computers and wen't to college for comp sci (never finished though) and I'm now an IT Director/Architect for a DotCOM making a high salary.

    Thank god for The Shack. I still think they aren't long for this world though. I went into one about 2 months ago and it was like a Spencer Gifts for electronics. They had this little shelf of audio cables and no digital logic equipment in sight. I was really sad. :(

  126. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The time it would take to drive anywhere ans search/ask for the part it could have been found on the internet, ordered, and on it's way. Digikey has been great for this sort of thing as well as other places. Digikey is as reliable as they come great prices and customer service.

  127. It all comes down to branding. by komby · · Score: 1

    Who wants to buy high priced electronics from a shack. Radio Shack should seriously consider a major rebranding like Pick - n - Save did to become Big Lots!.

  128. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What will it take to bring Radio Shack out of the slump?

    One idea is to go back to being a niche store like Fry's. What is the consumer doing now? They are buying digital this and that. They are buying the big ticket Plasma TVs and iPods.

    But let's say we can tell the buying public that that TV will look better if you buy the TV tuning DVD, or better yet arrange for a radio shack employee to make a house call and tune the TV even better. iPod attachemnts that are off-brand? Yes. Did you read about that certain mod to the ipod on-line and you want the parts for that mod? Yes, we have them.

    It is all about not having Radio Shack compete with the Circuit Cities and Best Buys with inferior goods. It is being that niche market supplier that could pull them out of the slump.

    Now, I've never been a large company CEO but I've played one on TV. Now gimme that job...

  129. Gee, why are they failing? by kimvette · · Score: 1

    It couldn't be that they've effectively become miniature Circuit City stores, only with a fraction of the selection and higher prices
    It couldn't be that they dropped the Archer, Realistic, Optimus, etc. brands and instead of their crap house brand they now offer crap brands like RCA
    It couldn't possibly be that they dropped the catalog AND dropped their meat-and-potatoes market (electronic components for hobbyists, etc.) by drastically limiting their component selections?

    Nah, it couldn't be that. Maybe illegal P2P networks are somehow to blame?

    --
    The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
  130. They can't survive. by gameguy1957 · · Score: 1
    I don't think they can survive.

    I can rememberthe local Radio Shack back in the early 80's. It was in the same shopping center as the local grocery store and I'd go in there while my mom was shopping. I'd stare into the glass counter and lust after the T-100 on the top shelf for forty-five minutes until she came by to drag me out of the store.

    A few years later I can remember going there frequently to pick up electric motors, switches and etc. for projects I was working on at the time. They had just about everything you would need. There'd also be a lot of neat stuff that you didn't need but was fun to look through while shopping.

    Fast forward to this past Christmas. I went into the local Radio Shack to have a look around and all that they have is a small selection of a few items. Want a cell phone? They have a shelf with a few of them. The store next door has dozens of models. Same goes for all of the other items that they carry. They have a few of each model of popular electronic item but don't specialize in anything.

    I'm also glad I didn't need help. I guess they're getting what they pay for at minimum wage but the kids working the store looked like the customers were too much effort to help between the smoke breaks.

    Thankfully there is still a local owned electronics distributor that has the good stuff and a knowledgeable staff. they are on the other side of town from where I live but it's well worth the trip.

    -JM

  131. They tried EXACTLY this approach... by slacktide · · Score: 1

    ..in the late '90s, with a chain of stores called http://www.techam.com/">"Tech America" I believe they had 5 of them in a few major cities. I know that there was one in Atlanta, and recall that they also had stores in Phoenix, Denver, and Dallas. They were kind of like a Frys Electronics minus the movie & video section... computer components, electronic parts, a decent semi-professional DJ equipment selection, etc. They even had a wide range of assemble-it-yourself kits from companies like Velleman. I suppose it wasn't profitable, as they closed the stores after just a few years. Just before they shut their doors they http://www.techam.com/">renamed the stores from "Tech America" to "Radioshack.Com"

    1. Re:They tried EXACTLY this approach... by Y0tsuya · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I remember them. Bought some resistor and capacitor assortments from them, plus some DIP ICs. Then they got bought by RadioShack or something. For a while radioshack.com still carried the same items. Don't know if it still does. These days I use digikey.

  132. Re:I Hate RadioShack by amiak · · Score: 1

    Since the opportunity has arrived to bash Radio Shack, I will offer my two cents.
    I don't really feel the need to bash the shack but its hey day has come and gone. I'm still a little bit disappointed that Radio Shack never sold the Commodore 64.

    The case of what has happened to Radio Shack might be kind of sad. I really don't see it making a comeback. I won't say that I will never return but why should I? This point has been beaten to death by previous posts and "other options" are killing the need for a Radio Shack to even exist. I used to really like Radio Shack, but then they offered this box called the TRS-80 instead of the Commodore 64... and the shack has been going down hill ever since.

    --
    accurately define good according to a criteria and seek it out.
  133. FYI: Digikey is the best place for parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kick butt online ordering system
    Accurate order fills
    Fast shipping
    Lots of parts

    It was even started by a geek. Digikey = ham radio keyers

  134. If Radioshack were to sell ... by Skapare · · Score: 1

    If Radioshack were to sell a complete line of all the components for building your own computer, from cases, to mainboards, to every kind of add on card, with at least 3 manufacturers represented for each type of part, then I probably will go there, and probably even buy something. And this needs to include all the major manufacturers of hard disk drives (at least in IDE, SATA, and SCSI).

    One problem is, at the rates they pay people, they would never be able to hire someone that actually knows what these products are, much less knows what they do or how to work with them.

    Or would this just turn them into a scaled down version of Fry's?

    --
    now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
  135. Re:Education is not always that important. by Jaxoreth · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why more firms don't give programming tests for programming positions. The interview for my favorite job (so far) included a C++ fix-this-code quiz whose subtlety impressed me as much as it gave me the opportunity to impress them.

    Second best was my time at NIH, where again there was a programming test. I was my staffing company's first placement there, and they asked me to review the test answers of subsequent applicants. Some of these people were just clueless, and the test was a cheap and easy way to expose that.

    I've just been offered my first position on a team of Mac developers. Every engineer I interviewed with asked me to compose a function on the whiteboard, and each function was in someway relevant to their product.

    My point is that any twit can lie or polish his résumé. It's really easy to screen them out, so why don't more employers do this? The test is not only an advantage for a good programmer without a degree, but a vital sign indicating a company's ability to hire good people and skip the bad ones. It's good news even if you do have a degree.

    --
    In general, it is safe and legal to kill your children. -- POSIX Programmer's Guide
  136. Fuck you Radio Shack by bogie · · Score: 1

    You deserve to go out of business. And screw the apologists who counter with "but at least if you REALLY need xxxx you can at least go there". Their service sucks, they have employees who don't understand the cell phone contracts they push let along electronics, and every God dam thing they sell is fucking "Gold" plated and marked up 10,000%.

    Customer: Hi, I need a 6ft USB cable.
    Ratshack: Sure, we have this $39 Gold plated one, and then a $59 Double Gold plated version.
    Customer: Your lucky they don't allow citizens to carry hang guns in this state.

    --
    If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
  137. Changing times, alright by chrysrobyn · · Score: 1

    I've lived in my current house for 5 years. I do not get Radio Shack catalogs or advertisements -- obviously they don't have my address. Does this mean that I haven't shopped in a Radio Shack for at least as long? My teenage self -- the one who built a resistor network to get sound out his parallel port on his 286 -- couldn't imagine this situation.

    My father went to Radio Shack a few weeks ago looking for a 47uF capacitor for a minor repair, only to find that Radio Shack no longer carries capacitors. At least Fry's was merely out of stock.

    1. Re:Changing times, alright by XO · · Score: 1
      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  138. A post-repair-world Radio Shack by maggard · · Score: 1
    Yes yes yes, Ratshack isn't what it was years ago.

    Neither is the world.

    It used to be when something broke you repaired it. In ye olde days you whittled a new part, as technology moved forward you went to the village smythee, then in the industrial era went to the parts shop and got a new one. That's what RS was - a parts shop for the early electronics age.

    But now all of our electronics are black boxes of surface mount components from far-away places. The days of replacing a tube, or even a 555, are past. Sure there's the odd capacitor that knowledgeable folks can replace but faced with a board of illegibly marked ASICS, no way.

    So Radio Shack had to change.

    They're everywhere. Something like 95% of US households are within 10 miles of a Radio Shack. 99% of all US household members wander through a Radio Shack every few years. That makes them closer then most big box stores, just the place to drop into for the odd watch battery, TV cable, or gadget gift.

    Radio Shack has that to their advantage. So they went with it. No huge inventory of electronics parts taking up room that turned over every few years. Instead they can make more per square foot with bogus air ionizers, RC cars, and over-over-priced A/V & computer stuff.

    But ya know what? They sell! $45 for a keyboard, the same one as Best Buy for $30 and $10 online, it pays the bills. S-Video cable, hit the local RS for 2x$ or go wandering the bowels of Circuit City, past the washing machines, with chirpy kids insisting to 'help' when they wouldn't know an S-Video cable if you flogged 'em with it (yes, thank you, I'm literate, I can read the labels on the store shelves for myself, no need to annoy me with your non-assistance.)

    So RS stays in business. Heck, with cellphones they've even prospered. Sure I laughed out loud the day I read on the bottom of an email "Radio Shack: You've got questions - we've got blank stares. And cell phones!" but truth be told they're more convenient then a carrier's store and the staff is better then the kiosk monkeys.

    Long term, I think they'll make it. Their stock is a bit better then the electronics section at the mega "grocery" store, closer then a real electronics supplier, and with smaller stores at least they know where things are more often then past-the-microwaves-and-ask-in-car-radios.

    I do miss buying parts, and kits, there. And the battery club, and the fuzzy purple cat radios, and even getting the two pieces of leather, some cord, and an embossing tool for making a nifty decorative leather comb holster for a gift (what every stylin' teen needed no doubt.) But I also like $20 electronics from China.

    --
    I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
  139. My favorite Radio Shack Wisecrack by bobdotorg · · Score: 1

    For those who hate upselling:

    While making my yearly trip to Radio Shack for size 386 watch batteries (cyclocomputer), the creepy 55 year old grey-haired, fat, bearded, handlebar-mustachioed clerk asked, "Would you like a cell phone for a penny?"

    "Cool! Gimme a thousand of 'em," I replied as I smacked a ten dollar bill on the counter.

    --
    __ Someday, but not this morning, I'll finally learn to use the preview button.
    1. Re:My favorite Radio Shack Wisecrack by XO · · Score: 1

      I said that to a customer once, and he came back a few days later and bought 100 of them. But he decided against the Penny model, he went for the $20 model, instead.

        His name? Kellogg CEO Carlos Gutierrez... sound familiar?

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  140. Mall stores no longer carry components by Cybrex · · Score: 1

    I just recently (within the last 2 months) finally got off my butt and started to teach myself electronics. I've been meaning to do this for years, and so far I'm absolutely loving it!

    The down side has been in finding components. I wasted an evening going to 3 different Radio Shacks looking for parts. At the 3rd store one of the employees informed me that they no longer carry components at mall stores. *sigh*

    The next day I tracked down a non-mall store and stopped in. They do still carry components, and the manager was extremely friendly and helpful, but the selection was much more limited than I'd expected, and I still haven't been able to track down everything I need for the project I'm working on, which I'm afraid is killing the inertia of my new hobby.

    -Cybrex

    --
    Boundless Expansion, Self-Transformation, Dynamic Optimism, Intelligent Technology, Spontaneous Order- BEST DO IT SO!
    1. Re:Mall stores no longer carry components by cr0sh · · Score: 1

      If you haven't found it yet, check out Nuts and Volts Magazine and their spinoff Servo Magazine (which is dedicated to robotics - hobbyist and professional) - both are great magazines. I have been a subscriber to Nuts and Volts since around 1992 or so, and a subscriber to Servo since it started (a year or two ago). I highly reccommend both (if for nothing else, as a resource for supplier listings!)...

      --
      Reason is the Path to God - Anon
    2. Re:Mall stores no longer carry components by Cybrex · · Score: 1

      Oooh... shiny! Thanks for the tip. I'll name one of my Giant Evil Robots of Doom after you! ;-)

      --
      Boundless Expansion, Self-Transformation, Dynamic Optimism, Intelligent Technology, Spontaneous Order- BEST DO IT SO!
  141. Radio Shack should pounce on microcontrollers by xtal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a H U G E market for cheap 8 bit microcontrollers now that you can get a little computer for the price of a latte', and you can do a lot of near things with them very easily. There's loads of related things like robotics that they missed out on too - how many people have any idea where to get a motion controller, or a servo motor?

    Makes you think.

    Then there's the whole embedded linux thing!

    Radio Shack turned their back on hobbiests; I probably owe my EE degree to Forrest Mimms and his great books that radio shack distributed in the 80's. Now they sell cheap crap from China and Cell Phones.

    --
    ..don't panic
  142. Re:I Hate RadioShack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When is the last time you actually walked into a RadioShack to get parts? I don't think my local store even has the parts to build a simple audio amp anymore, let alone something interesting. I know when I was building my QRP rig, I had to order my parts from DigiKey. RadioShack maybe had 10% of what I needed.

  143. Ceo by mangloid · · Score: 1

    I currently work for radioshack at the corporate offices. My personal take: When Edmondson was hired, he probably didn't think in 11 years he would be CEO of the company. As years passed he probably forgot about the "discrepancies" on his resume. I can bet you that alot of employees at radioshack are trying to remember what their resume had on it, and supervisors as well for whome they have hired. Glad mines clean ( as i would hope majority are.)

  144. Terrorists? by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't be surprised if buying too many parts and Radi Sack will get you an FBI investigation...

    --
    "Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
  145. ...And they do a bad job of it! by PCM2 · · Score: 1
    Radio Shack went downhill when they made Cellphone and Satellite TV service their primary sales vehicles.
    I only have one experience with cell phones and Radio Shack. I had a Sprint PCS phone manufactured by Samsung that had really shitty battery life. I wanted to get a higher-capacity battery ... so I walked into Radio Shack (an authorized Sprint dealer) and bought one.

    It worked for about a month before it crapped out and completely failed to keep a charge. So I tracked down a Sprint store, took a number, waited around for half an hour, and spoke to a Sprint rep. "What the hell is the matter with this phone?"

    The guy took the phone from me, flipped it over in his hand, and said, "Well for starters, where did you get this nasty battery?"

    "Radio Shack."

    "It's totally nonstandard. Some kind of knock off." He shrugs, tosses it into a drawer. "Hold on." A minute later he returns with an official, Sprint-authorized replacement high capacity battery for my model phone. "There you go."

    And that was it. The Sprint guy gave me an authentic battery for free to replace the crappy gray market on I bought at Radio Shack.

    Guess what lesson I learned about shopping for cell phones at Rad Shack?

    --
    Breakfast served all day!
    1. Re:...And they do a bad job of it! by XO · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough, Sprint sells Radioshack all the phones/accessories...

      --
      "Champagne for my real friends - and real pain for my sham friends!" http://ericblade.postalboard.com/
  146. Canadian situation was not related to this by WebCowboy · · Score: 1

    The Circuit City puchase of InterTan took place well over a year ago and probably had minimal impact in the past year's performance of Radio Shack. I think it has just been the most recent chapter in a story of long, slow decline for Radio Shack.

    Here is a bit of background:

    in 1986, Tandy Corporation sold off all its assets and business interests outside the United States to a Canadian company called InterTAN. Although the name of the Canadian firm suggests it was a division of Tandy Corporation this was not the case; InterTAN was wholly independent from Tandy Corp in terms of ownership and corporate structure (The InterTAN name came from the fact that they WERE a division of Tandy until 1986--they were sold off but the name stayed). To maintain a presence outside the US, Tandy gave InterTAN a license to the "Radio Shack" name so that it could continue operating its international stores under that name (mostly in Canada but interTAN also owned and operated a few Radio Shack stores in Europe and even Australia IIRC). This license to the Radio Shack brand extended to the end of 2010.

    Tandy later restructured/refocused and changed its name to Radio Shack corporation to match its store brand (in 2000), though InterTAN has retained its name to this day.

    Things got complicated in 2004 when US electronics retailer "Circuit City" then bought the whole of InterTAN. Although Circuit City had little to no presence in Canada, Radio Shack found itself in the awkward position of having its biggest rival "own" its brand outside the US! A lawsuit ensued, although for over a year Circuit City's InterTAN division continued to operate its newly-acquired chain of electronics stores under the "Radio Shack" moniker. Since 1986 Canadian Radio Shacks had gradually started looking less and less like the US versions, and when Circuit City came into the picture Radio Shack cut off its supply of private label goods, so by 2005 Canadian Radio Shacks shared nothing in common with the US stores except the name. It seemed odd to me to go into a Radio Shack and see nothing sold with the Radio Shack or Realistic brands on it...

    In Mid 2005 Radio Shack won its case against InterTAN and managed to break the licensing contract early, at which time InterTAN had to rename all its stores (they are now known as "The Source by Circuit City"). Interestingly enough, there were a handful of Canadian "independents" (mostly in small towns) that were able to keep the Radio Shack name above the door, because they weren't ever affiliated with InterTAN--they were "mom-and-pop" stores who independently acquired "partnership" agreements with the US company. A very small number of store operators also broke away from InterTAN upon the purchase of that company by Circuit City and also didn't change the name. Furthermore, Radio Shack has mande a noticeable effort to reintroduce its stores on its own--often in the same shopping centres as The Source. These new Radio Shack stores look and feel exactly the same as the US ones, which is to say they are different from anything Canadians have seen.

    Interesting side note...although InterTAN originated as a division of Tandy/Radio Shack, after it became an independent corporation in 1986 it didn't stick to just running Radio Shack stores--it also licensed brands from other companies (like Rogers Communications) and operated several regional and national retail and service chains, including:

    * Radio Shack (now "The Source")
    * THS Studio ("talk hear see" - a "boutique" of electronic gadgets)
    * Battery Plus (sells batteries of all kinds)
    * Rogers Plus (sells Rogers cellular service and phones)
    * IQ Crew (a service business consisting of computer geeks who do housecalls to fix your crufty Windows PC)

    Most of these ventures were established before Circuit City bought InterTAN.

  147. Re:I Hate RadioShack by scharkalvin · · Score: 1

    The larger surface mount parts are ok, but most of the latest stuff is
    almost too small to see and pick up, let alone read the gd part number!

    You need good eyes (or a powerfull magnifier with low distortion) and
    steady hands to work with this stuff. Again, in the larger sm packages
    this can be done by the average joe, but most of the real interresting
    parts are now only available in the micro-mini size packages which
    have to be handled by robots.

  148. I thought it was getting better by wrenhunter · · Score: 1
    It's true that cellphones and other crap have been taking over, but I had an experience in an RS store the other day that had given me hope.

    There were 3 or 4 RS employees -- in matching blue jacket and tie -- having a conversation near the counter. As I browsed for an audio cable adapter, I swear I overheard one of them say, "Sure, that was true for Marconi, but not for Tesla".

    I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. Maybe they were space aliens?

  149. Maybe, maybe not... by sheldon · · Score: 1

    I would have to agree that once you get a job, the college degree on your resume isn't all that important compared to your real job experience.

    But I also want to counter the "education doesn't matter" bullshit argument.

    I work with several people who do not have degrees in Computer Science or Computer Engineering who do fairly well with their tech jobs. Until you get into something that deals with knowledge of how the computer works internally rather than experimental knowledge gained by trying things. For instance, once I got into an argument with someone once about the behavior of a system under load and he didn't understand the concept of context switching or semaphores. No clue, never heard of it, didn't even understand how multitasking was handled at the CPU level. Yet, he kept trying to argue that the behavior we were seeing was perfectly reasonable rather than a bug.

    It depends. As long as you know the limits of your knowledge, then fine. But sometimes the less you know, the less likely you are to realize you know less. :-(

  150. Re:I Hate RadioShack by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

    Unfortunatly while the above is true, It's not what the company is focusing on anymore. While a great deal of the business in my store is in the parts, adapters and batteries department, management says that we need to be focusing on Wireless with every sale. If we're not making a wireless sale every 10 tickets, we get chewed on...hard. If we don't sell 4 packs of batteries when the customer only asks for one pack, only needs one pack, and completely refuses 4 packs, we still get chewed on.

    Yeah, watch batteries, phone batteries, and parts are the actual focus of our business, but it's not what management thinks is our focus. They don't have but a couple of blurbs on parts in the training "certifications" that we need to take after being hired. The focus in training is on the "Revenue Drivers". That includes your Wireless Phones, your freakin' i*Pods, the 4-4-10 battery "deals", service plans that only extend out from the manufacturer's warranty, and now Radio Shack Credit Cards.

    When the sales of these "Revenue Drivers" is down, you'd think that maybe management would step back and see that "Gee...maybe peope don't come here for that. We probably need to change our focus." No, these pompus asses are saying "You dumbass associates, force these people to get a Cell Phone! That's our focus, not the parts crap. We don't care what these people want. We'll tell them what they want, and it's your job to MAKE them THANK us for it."

    I'm glad I'm out of retail in a month. I'm sick of being told to sell my integrity to the people for peanuts so some big unedumakated doofus at the top of the corporate chain can get a nice bonus. And I'm sure that the guy they're going to get to replace Edmonson isn't going to be much better. Just maybe have a piece of paper behind him to cover up his lack of real world intelligence.

  151. lol by BitterAndDrunk · · Score: 1

    I'd mod you funny if I could. I don't know why, either. But I laughed when I read your post.

    --
    You better watch out, there may be dogs about . . .
  152. d'you remember TechAmerica? by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

    They tried. In the early-mid-1990's Radio Shack opened a technical arm called TechAmerica, including a few storefronts and a huge webpresence. I could walk into their store and say "I want a 7408" and the guy would say "do you really, or do you want a 74F08?" They even offered ADC's ... in different resolutions.

    Guess what? It failed. Massively. Nobody wanted that kind of service. Those few of us who actually build stuff order it from Jameco, and everyone else wants cellphones and cheap plastic crap. TechAmerica was gone *before* the dotcom disaster, as I recall.

    Too bad. I used to have three good electronics stores within 30 km. Now I have none.

    --
    Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
  153. Brand by Geminii · · Score: 1

    Their biggest asset is their name. Who here saw "Radio Shack" and didn't immediately know what the company was about (well, what it used to be about)? Who has never bought something from the Shack, or known someone who has? Among techies and hobbiests, the name is marketing gold. If they started selling quality components again, everyone and their dog would recommend them because hey, they're Radio Shack. Everyone knows the Shack.

  154. this pen? by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    http://www.radioshack.com/sm-circuitwriter-pen--pi -2104395.html

    this store?
    CircuitWriter Pen

    Model: 64-4339 | Catalog #: 64-4339

    See where you can get it:

    Enter your zip code to find out which stores in your area have this product.

      Store information

    This product is available at the following locations near 95010.

    Last updated on Feb 20, 2006.

      CAPITOLA-CAPITOLA MALL
    01-9013 | 0.00 miles*
      See a map
        831-475-8550
    CAPITOLA MALL
    1855 41ST AVE #F3
    CAPITOLA, CA 95010
            In stock


    Go Cougars!

    --
    every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
    1. Re:this pen? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, that's the one. Either their search engine is utter bullshit, because I made many searches looking for it, or they re-added the product.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  155. Who cares about his education? by Ritchie70 · · Score: 1
    The company is a mess, this is no more than a convenient excuse to get rid of him. I mean, come on, he lied about degrees in psychology and philosophy, how is that relevent to running Radio Shack anyhow?

    It'll be interesting to see how Claire Babrowski, the interim CEO, works out; she was at McDonald's for many years (I saw somewhere starting when she was 16 as crew.) She has history in McDonald's technology and equipment groups as well as being the "chief restaurant operations officer." I've heard that she's very sharp. She left McDonald's when Mike Roberts was promoted to President/COO - she was arguably better qualified.

    --
    The preferred solution is to not have a problem.
  156. I used to work there... by Announcer · · Score: 1

    ...and the markup on parts was from 300 to 500 percent. I kid you not. That IC marked $2.99 cost the store $0.89. Parts and pieces used to be the bread and butter of the store years ago.

    I wonder if the decline in their parts secion over the years is a symptom of the decline of Do-It-Yourselfers, or they just didn't want to be bothered anymore with catering to this niche market.

    When I was a kid, Radio Shack had incredible amounts of parts. I've watched that variety decline steadily over the years. One of the things I really miss are their kits. Today's kids should be encouraged to get into technology, and some of these kits were a good way to do that.

    Radio Shack is more like Cell Phone Shack these days. At least they aren't trying to shove one down my throat, anymore, like they were for a while. I already have one, anyway.

    The other sad thing is the lack of any kind of technical knowledge of the people working there. "You've got questions... would you like a cell phone with that?"

    --
    Willie...
  157. Too bad. by nsaspook · · Score: 1

    Got my first real job at radioshack back during the CB craze. Made a ton of money installing radios on the side to truckers. For a little extra I would tweak the output stage to give them more than the legal 5 watts. Now RS is a joke but this week I needed to make a simple logic circuit board for work and they still had the parts on the wall.

    --
    In GOD we trust, all others we monitor.
  158. Rat Shack Stories by Nerd4News · · Score: 1

    One day a friend and I were doing a quick rebuild of another friends 'puter and we needed some heatsink paste so after lunch we stopped by the local RS. "We need some heatsink paste." said I. "What?" "Heatsink paste." "What's that?" I explained. "Don't have any of that." "Yes you do." "No we don't." "Yes you do. I'll look around... Here it is." "Oh, I didn't know what that was."

    To be fair, they're not all ignorant but have you noticed that you never see the same employee twice? I never have. Either they rotate sales droids to a different store each day or they have have an endless supply in the back room and at the end of the day the current crop is laid off, fired or quits.

  159. Considering Radio Shack's problems... by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

    ...they need someone who can pray.