I'd be surprised if they had a word for it at all- certain components of root beer are native to North America. But you're right- I just hadn't thought of it. Most soda, when it came in glass bottles, came in clear glass bottles. IBC and Henry's are the only ones I've ever heard of that came in brown.
But the point is- we both mentioned types of beer. Nonalcoholic beer, but still beer. IBC used to make alcoholic beer, but was one of the few breweries to stick with soft drinks after prohibition was repealed (then again, they also used to make sasperilla in the 1890s also, along with "Ginger Beer" which was kind of like a dark ginger ale).
You can get this functionality in the latest version of YIM, and I suspect several other instant messengers as well. All this really is, is vonage adware.
Duff man as a soft drink dealer? But then again, the only soft drink I've ever seen sold in brown bottles was Henry's Private Reserve Root Beer- it comes in the same bottles as their real beer.
Read it- they've modified it. I don't know how they modified it- but Moe no longer runs a bar, Homer drinks soft drinks instead of beer, Egyptian sausages instead of hot dogs, and some sort of cookie instead of a donut...how they did that while still using "the original animation" is beyond me. But the adaptation has been universally panned....makes me wonder how they'd handle the episode where PBS is after Homer for his donation, and he becomes a missionary, continually crying "Jebus Save Me!" into the short wave radio.
Depends on the hybrid- but yes, the majority of the currently available ones are just as you describe.
The other form of hybrid car is primarily an electric vehicle- with a small, finely tuned for maximum efficiency, gasoline generator you can switch to when the battery power gets low. This form of hybrid you can actually plug in at night- so that potentially for short trips, you use no gasoline at all.
Personally, I prefer the second- and was sad to find out that such famous cases as the Ford Escape, Honda Insight, and Toyota Prius were the first. Anybody know of the 2nd? Anywhere?
I'd recommend one of these. The twin fan design can be set to exchange, and the controls can be set to certain temperatures so that you're not wasting energy in the winter.
Neither can I- especially since I spelled the composer's name wrong (I hate Cyrillic to Roman translations- I spelled it phonetically!). Actually, it was only a +3. The rest was subscriber and karma bonus.
No, that's Elbonia- Estonia is about 50 miles north of where Elbonia is supposed to be. They're full of forests and songs instead of mud. (no, really- their revolution was called the "singing revolution" because as the soviet tanks were leaving, they were followed by crowds of people singing songs. Velio Tormis was their "Conductor General", and they've only been free since 1992).
After 10 years in the industry, I've got the following three methods:
1. Do everything everybody asks you to, even if you personally think it's contradictory. Works in companies that have a strong chain of command, but results in code you would never want to include in your interview portfolio. And gets you targeted for first layoff.
2. Go your own way, but do plenty of software engineering to back things up. Gets you targeted quite often for layoff, but since you have the numbers, you rarely get laid off- this method has resulted in up to two years in the same job for me. Results in code you can be proud in, but you'll never meet a deadline, and that will eventually get you fired, so to give yourself extra time always multiply all estimates by 4 (Scotty school of engineering).
3. Give up, and offshore your job. Everything gets coded exactly to spec, even when the specs make no sense, and nothing gets done right- but at least you'll end up doing what you're told, until your bosses find out, and then they cut out the middle man (you).
In other words, I've yet to find a winning method in the situation you describe.
I must have been mistaken. I thought the entire point of FRS was to make channels that were based on digital packet switched radio- and that each of the so called "subchannels" was a packet address, with enough bandwidth to support up to 32 packets at 22khz. I must have been thinking about GMRS? Or maybe something completely different? Digital to me means packet switching. Kind of like an thinnet over the airwaves...
At any rate, thanks for the clarification, since I was obviously completely wrong.
Depends on how well educated the worriers are. For instance: worriers who are educated are much less likely to shop at Wal*Mart, a corporation directly responsible for poverty in China and low quality employment in the United States (see latest JibJab cartoon).
While the airwaves are getting used more efficiently, the FCC is also responsible for other areas of spectrum management that aren't "computerized." For example, many portions of the spectrum are set aside for various types of civil and military radar. While radars are computer-controlled, I would NOT want my local air traffic controller to have to be sharing his spectrum with some junior wireless hacker.
True enough- but I imagine one day we'll be able to quite well using packet filtering. I know of at least one low-power radar system in use in the auto industry in Japan and the United States that uses this technique (each radar "ping" contains a 64 bit number- encoding the transmitter code and the time of transmission, making for a "smart ping" that contains all the information needed to figure out distance when it bounces back. Packets that have the wrong transmitter code are ignored).
On the other hand, if someone wants to design a system that interferes with the same portion of the spectrum used by police radar guns, I'm not going to complain.
Already exists but is illegal in most states. The states where it is legal are already using digital software packet rejection systems or laser range finders instead.
Yep- there's a reason why we don't do.0001 Mhz tuning....on either receivers or transmitters. But I would point out that FRS shows that with software packet filtering, you can get a perfectly useable signal even if 32 people are sharing the same frequency. Increase the address space on your packets to something like IPV6 range- and you need a whole lot less bandwidth than you'd think.
Having said that, you're completely right that I don't need to pick on Hams- there are plenty of other analog users still out there, and they'll still be around when I'm in the ground. Perhaps within my son's lifetime (he's 2 now) but NOT YET.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to kick up the power for a single reneg packet, then drop power and frequency hop? I'd think that any device that follows your rules, while possible to build, wouldn't sell very well because it would not be very efficient in the situation of a very crowded chanel.
Still, even if it becomes a "war" instead of a "negotiation"- using software the war can be acomplished in a few nanoseconds without ever notifying the end users. Very quickly, one of the devices in the war will hit the maximum power it can put out- at which point it has to buffer packets while renegotiating for a new frequency to hop to, or drop carrier because the noise is too loud for it to continue.
Of course, the other option is to accept the degraded performance- and listen for silence before transmitting a packet of data.
The type of software TFA is talking about isn't limited to Gigahertz radios- or even single transciever radios. Get too much interferance on one frequency? Hop to another- if you can tune everything from 10khz to 5.8Ghz, you're going to find a free frequency someplace, even if there are 15 billion transcievers on the planet. Especially given that most of the Ghz+ frequencies don't go very far- the last I saw for a wi-fi shootout max distance was still less than 200km. I don't forsee any shortage of bandwidth even if every single person on the planet had a wifi mesh implant that delivered full motion video direcly to the brain.
But like I said- we ain't there yet. First, we don't have software radios that can tune that wide of a frequency. Second, we have obsolete users who deserve the protections offered by the FCC still. Third, we'd need to have every single one of those obsolete, analog users switch over before we're ready to declare the FCC obsolete. I don't see that happening anytime soon, do you?
Do you really think so? I mean, when I bought my first computer 10 years ago, 56k was blazing fast. And wireless was unheard of (at least beyond 5 foot, PDA to PDA transmissions). Now Wireless is much more commonplace, and the bandwidth is rising rapidly. I doubt it'll take 50 years. Given the rate at which technology now moves, we could see enough bandwidth wirelessly all over major markets (read: big cities) within 15 years, and maybe 25 for it to go everywhere. Since the amount of bandwidth you need is roughly proportional to population, it's easier to cover rural areas adequately. With radio, signal strength needs to be based on terrain, since an area needs a certain amount of signal regardless of whether it is populated or not.
Yes, but to make the FCC obsolete you need a lot more than just technology movement and widespread adoption- you also need to have digital wireless broadband solutions to a point where they have ENTIRELY replaced the older analog technologies- otherwise you're going to get vocal minority users like Ham Radio operators still asking for protected analog bandwidth. To achieve that, you'll have to wait until all the current analog technology either outlives it's operating lifespan, or consumers simply give up on it. We've already got a similar movement in motion with HDTV- well defined since the 1980s, the movement to the new standard becomes enforced by the FCC next year- but how many homes have TV sets with ATSC tuners in them? Less than 75%? How many current TV viewers have at least one old set with only an NTSC tuner? I'd say most, perhaps 90%. No, you're not going to get wholesale replacement of the FCC's job very fast. Eventually, sure, everybody will have the joy I've found of The Core Media player, a large 2GB Hitachi CF drive, a Sandisk WiFi Card. and an Ipaq on the train- but I'm an early adopter. Perhaps my son's generation such tech will be widespread.
I agree with the article somewhat- OSS and software-tuneable packet-based radios will eventually push wireless bandwidth to unimagineably high levels. It will also make the FCC obsolete because the software will essentially be doing the same job as the FCC- negotiating for free open bandwidth.
But we ain't there yet- and given my history with used radios and TVs, and the current hassle over HDTV broadcast, I'd say we're at least 40, perhaps 50 years away from this becoming nationwide reality; and at least 100 years before it becomes worldwide reality.
Must have been a report filed by phone to an idiot. Correct pronounciation, wrong spelling (actually, not quite correct pronounciation either, now that I think about it, Ory-gun is more like it phonetically.).
Politicians don't give anybody who isn't a direct voter or campaign contributer the time of day- and that's where the bribery charge comes into play, with the second.
Personally I would rather he just pay them 8 bucks an hour (a decent wage for what they do) and pass the savings on to me.
Much as Wal*Mart and Costco and Target like to advertise low prices- passing the savings on to the consumer is not an option in retail. The choices are to pay this money to the workers or to the stockholders- that's the choice.
In that case- I'm sure you're aware of my idea for speeding up direct democracy- SecureID based electronic voting. Recently moved to USB-based Biometric SecureID electronc voting: you need a thumbprint of the proper temperature, a USB device that generates a predictable random number and has some flash storage, and an internet-enabled computer for the NIGHTLY votes. Wouldn't take any more time away from citizens than slashdot does- and would be very entertaining seeing the special interests try to put out adverts that affect a large portion of the public in less than 24 hours.
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I'd be surprised if they had a word for it at all- certain components of root beer are native to North America. But you're right- I just hadn't thought of it. Most soda, when it came in glass bottles, came in clear glass bottles. IBC and Henry's are the only ones I've ever heard of that came in brown.
But the point is- we both mentioned types of beer. Nonalcoholic beer, but still beer. IBC used to make alcoholic beer, but was one of the few breweries to stick with soft drinks after prohibition was repealed (then again, they also used to make sasperilla in the 1890s also, along with "Ginger Beer" which was kind of like a dark ginger ale).
You can get this functionality in the latest version of YIM, and I suspect several other instant messengers as well. All this really is, is vonage adware.
Duff man as a soft drink dealer? But then again, the only soft drink I've ever seen sold in brown bottles was Henry's Private Reserve Root Beer- it comes in the same bottles as their real beer.
Read it- they've modified it. I don't know how they modified it- but Moe no longer runs a bar, Homer drinks soft drinks instead of beer, Egyptian sausages instead of hot dogs, and some sort of cookie instead of a donut...how they did that while still using "the original animation" is beyond me. But the adaptation has been universally panned....makes me wonder how they'd handle the episode where PBS is after Homer for his donation, and he becomes a missionary, continually crying "Jebus Save Me!" into the short wave radio.
[comic book guy voice]Worst...Adaptation...EVER![/comic book guy voice]
Come on, you all were thinking it, Homer without the H or beer or hot dogs or bacon- eeeew.
Depends on the hybrid- but yes, the majority of the currently available ones are just as you describe.
The other form of hybrid car is primarily an electric vehicle- with a small, finely tuned for maximum efficiency, gasoline generator you can switch to when the battery power gets low. This form of hybrid you can actually plug in at night- so that potentially for short trips, you use no gasoline at all.
Personally, I prefer the second- and was sad to find out that such famous cases as the Ford Escape, Honda Insight, and Toyota Prius were the first. Anybody know of the 2nd? Anywhere?
I'd recommend one of these. The twin fan design can be set to exchange, and the controls can be set to certain temperatures so that you're not wasting energy in the winter.
Correct- I was going for a phonetic. I hate slavic-to-english translations, especially of names, I can never remember which consanants follow which.
Neither can I- especially since I spelled the composer's name wrong (I hate Cyrillic to Roman translations- I spelled it phonetically!). Actually, it was only a +3. The rest was subscriber and karma bonus.
Better than House Representative David Wu, from the same town (both are immigrants).
No, that's Elbonia- Estonia is about 50 miles north of where Elbonia is supposed to be. They're full of forests and songs instead of mud. (no, really- their revolution was called the "singing revolution" because as the soviet tanks were leaving, they were followed by crowds of people singing songs. Velio Tormis was their "Conductor General", and they've only been free since 1992).
After 10 years in the industry, I've got the following three methods:
1. Do everything everybody asks you to, even if you personally think it's contradictory. Works in companies that have a strong chain of command, but results in code you would never want to include in your interview portfolio. And gets you targeted for first layoff.
2. Go your own way, but do plenty of software engineering to back things up. Gets you targeted quite often for layoff, but since you have the numbers, you rarely get laid off- this method has resulted in up to two years in the same job for me. Results in code you can be proud in, but you'll never meet a deadline, and that will eventually get you fired, so to give yourself extra time always multiply all estimates by 4 (Scotty school of engineering).
3. Give up, and offshore your job. Everything gets coded exactly to spec, even when the specs make no sense, and nothing gets done right- but at least you'll end up doing what you're told, until your bosses find out, and then they cut out the middle man (you).
In other words, I've yet to find a winning method in the situation you describe.
I must have been mistaken. I thought the entire point of FRS was to make channels that were based on digital packet switched radio- and that each of the so called "subchannels" was a packet address, with enough bandwidth to support up to 32 packets at 22khz. I must have been thinking about GMRS? Or maybe something completely different? Digital to me means packet switching. Kind of like an thinnet over the airwaves...
At any rate, thanks for the clarification, since I was obviously completely wrong.
Depends on how well educated the worriers are. For instance: worriers who are educated are much less likely to shop at Wal*Mart, a corporation directly responsible for poverty in China and low quality employment in the United States (see latest JibJab cartoon).
While the airwaves are getting used more efficiently, the FCC is also responsible for other areas of spectrum management that aren't "computerized." For example, many portions of the spectrum are set aside for various types of civil and military radar. While radars are computer-controlled, I would NOT want my local air traffic controller to have to be sharing his spectrum with some junior wireless hacker.
True enough- but I imagine one day we'll be able to quite well using packet filtering. I know of at least one low-power radar system in use in the auto industry in Japan and the United States that uses this technique (each radar "ping" contains a 64 bit number- encoding the transmitter code and the time of transmission, making for a "smart ping" that contains all the information needed to figure out distance when it bounces back. Packets that have the wrong transmitter code are ignored).
On the other hand, if someone wants to design a system that interferes with the same portion of the spectrum used by police radar guns, I'm not going to complain.
Already exists but is illegal in most states. The states where it is legal are already using digital software packet rejection systems or laser range finders instead.
Yep- there's a reason why we don't do .0001 Mhz tuning....on either receivers or transmitters. But I would point out that FRS shows that with software packet filtering, you can get a perfectly useable signal even if 32 people are sharing the same frequency. Increase the address space on your packets to something like IPV6 range- and you need a whole lot less bandwidth than you'd think.
Having said that, you're completely right that I don't need to pick on Hams- there are plenty of other analog users still out there, and they'll still be around when I'm in the ground. Perhaps within my son's lifetime (he's 2 now) but NOT YET.
Wouldn't it be more efficient to kick up the power for a single reneg packet, then drop power and frequency hop? I'd think that any device that follows your rules, while possible to build, wouldn't sell very well because it would not be very efficient in the situation of a very crowded chanel.
Still, even if it becomes a "war" instead of a "negotiation"- using software the war can be acomplished in a few nanoseconds without ever notifying the end users. Very quickly, one of the devices in the war will hit the maximum power it can put out- at which point it has to buffer packets while renegotiating for a new frequency to hop to, or drop carrier because the noise is too loud for it to continue.
Of course, the other option is to accept the degraded performance- and listen for silence before transmitting a packet of data.
The type of software TFA is talking about isn't limited to Gigahertz radios- or even single transciever radios. Get too much interferance on one frequency? Hop to another- if you can tune everything from 10khz to 5.8Ghz, you're going to find a free frequency someplace, even if there are 15 billion transcievers on the planet. Especially given that most of the Ghz+ frequencies don't go very far- the last I saw for a wi-fi shootout max distance was still less than 200km. I don't forsee any shortage of bandwidth even if every single person on the planet had a wifi mesh implant that delivered full motion video direcly to the brain.
But like I said- we ain't there yet. First, we don't have software radios that can tune that wide of a frequency. Second, we have obsolete users who deserve the protections offered by the FCC still. Third, we'd need to have every single one of those obsolete, analog users switch over before we're ready to declare the FCC obsolete. I don't see that happening anytime soon, do you?
Do you really think so? I mean, when I bought my first computer 10 years ago, 56k was blazing fast. And wireless was unheard of (at least beyond 5 foot, PDA to PDA transmissions). Now Wireless is much more commonplace, and the bandwidth is rising rapidly. I doubt it'll take 50 years. Given the rate at which technology now moves, we could see enough bandwidth wirelessly all over major markets (read: big cities) within 15 years, and maybe 25 for it to go everywhere. Since the amount of bandwidth you need is roughly proportional to population, it's easier to cover rural areas adequately. With radio, signal strength needs to be based on terrain, since an area needs a certain amount of signal regardless of whether it is populated or not.
Yes, but to make the FCC obsolete you need a lot more than just technology movement and widespread adoption- you also need to have digital wireless broadband solutions to a point where they have ENTIRELY replaced the older analog technologies- otherwise you're going to get vocal minority users like Ham Radio operators still asking for protected analog bandwidth. To achieve that, you'll have to wait until all the current analog technology either outlives it's operating lifespan, or consumers simply give up on it. We've already got a similar movement in motion with HDTV- well defined since the 1980s, the movement to the new standard becomes enforced by the FCC next year- but how many homes have TV sets with ATSC tuners in them? Less than 75%? How many current TV viewers have at least one old set with only an NTSC tuner? I'd say most, perhaps 90%. No, you're not going to get wholesale replacement of the FCC's job very fast. Eventually, sure, everybody will have the joy I've found of The Core Media player, a large 2GB Hitachi CF drive, a Sandisk WiFi Card. and an Ipaq on the train- but I'm an early adopter. Perhaps my son's generation such tech will be widespread.
I agree with the article somewhat- OSS and software-tuneable packet-based radios will eventually push wireless bandwidth to unimagineably high levels. It will also make the FCC obsolete because the software will essentially be doing the same job as the FCC- negotiating for free open bandwidth.
But we ain't there yet- and given my history with used radios and TVs, and the current hassle over HDTV broadcast, I'd say we're at least 40, perhaps 50 years away from this becoming nationwide reality; and at least 100 years before it becomes worldwide reality.
Must have been a report filed by phone to an idiot. Correct pronounciation, wrong spelling (actually, not quite correct pronounciation either, now that I think about it, Ory-gun is more like it phonetically.).
Politicians don't give anybody who isn't a direct voter or campaign contributer the time of day- and that's where the bribery charge comes into play, with the second.
Personally I would rather he just pay them 8 bucks an hour (a decent wage for what they do) and pass the savings on to me.
Much as Wal*Mart and Costco and Target like to advertise low prices- passing the savings on to the consumer is not an option in retail. The choices are to pay this money to the workers or to the stockholders- that's the choice.
In that case- I'm sure you're aware of my idea for speeding up direct democracy- SecureID based electronic voting. Recently moved to USB-based Biometric SecureID electronc voting: you need a thumbprint of the proper temperature, a USB device that generates a predictable random number and has some flash storage, and an internet-enabled computer for the NIGHTLY votes. Wouldn't take any more time away from citizens than slashdot does- and would be very entertaining seeing the special interests try to put out adverts that affect a large portion of the public in less than 24 hours.