No. You must be using a hyperbolic definition of closet, when I mean an actual 12x10 room. And go aways from the city, accept substandard construction in the corner of another property, and it comes down to $6/month. Considering that the slaves can live right in their workplace, it drops to zero. (The employer needed to rent a workplace anyhow)
In Oregon, land use zoning prevents such uses- the only way to do that would be with illegal aliens, not slaves.
No. An overseer is the most cost-effective way. You'd really need 2 fulltime overseers, and to make that cost-effective, you'd need 30+ slaves. But that's no problem (even though the overseers should get more than $12k/yr).
Why would we pay overseers any more than minimum wage, if the whole point is to lower our labor costs? They'd be the lowest paid people on the totem pole, wouldn't they?
Hahaha! Transportation for slaves? Ha ha ha. Good one. Part of "slavery" is "no freedom", which means you can't go anywhere.
Depends on what they're doing- you've got to get the slaves to the work somehow- even if that means hauling them to the fields.
You assumed slaves work 16 hour days 7 days per week. It'd be more efficient to go 12/6, to preserve health.
I thought your argument was that slave owners didn't care about the health of the slaves...but fine, 72 hour workweek, that comes to $6.22/hr- MORE expensive than factory minimum wage. Let's also take out the transportation cost, and it's still more than $5.35/hr.
However, all this math of yours avoids looking at undeniable ground level facts. Do you deny that USA employers are occasionally punished for operating "sweatshops"? Slavery would be like a legalized sweatshop, only moreso.
The punishment today for operating a sweatshop is barely token- a very small percentage of the business advantage for operating a sweatshop. And enforcement is minimal. That's where the whole term "working poor" comes from.
And illegal labor is supported by tax dollars- they can survive because none of the welfare forms check for citizenship, only residency. Yet another way that the corporations shift their DUTY to their WORKERS off onto general society.
The insurance CEO's new boat would be part of the cost, if that's what it took to get someone to run an insurance company. Most people don't work for free (maybe you do).
I would if I could figure out some way to get food, clothing, and shelter for free. I can't- so I feel FORCED into working for money. That beside the point- CEOs in our society are WAY overpaid for what little they actually do (all C-level executives are) and are definately not within the Platonic Free Market ideal (of no job being paid any more than 10x any other job- for no man is more than 10x as productive as any other).
No. The difference between costs and spending is the difference between how much money it takes to purchase a particular treatment and how much money you actually spend on all treatments.
And right now- spending is far higher than the majority of Americans can afford at all.
The costs in two different places might be the same, but if the people don't have the money, then there won't be spending.
Nah- what's it to an HMO if they drive their members into bankruptcy as long as costs are controlled and spending is high?
Americans happen to have, in general, more money than other people and so they can spend more when they get sick.
You'd think that- yet well over 80 million Americans are uninsured or underinsured- and every single one of them is one catastrophic illness away from bankruptcy.
I'll be willing to grant that we had to do something about Iraq *someday*. al Qaida, though, had attacked us just 6 months previous, and we had yet to finish mopping up operations on their structure and support. Now was NOT the time for the United States to go in. Now was possibly the time, if you could get the rest of the nations to agree, for NATO to go in with a token force of American soldiers. Now was possibly the time for Iraq's neighbors to say enough is enough, and let Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Jordan carve up Iraq for themselves. But now was NOT the time for a US invasion unless it could be done using the Colin Powell method.
In September 2003, Qwest Communications International Inc. service was out for 4 hours and 38 minutes after vandals cut fiber-optic cables in Bellingham, Wash.
Seems like a good plot to me- kind of like crashing a truck into the compound in Salem, OR on the corner of Hawthorne and State St. would be the obvious first move of a terror attack in Oregon- by taking out the emergency communications center you'll hinder any response to anything else you do.
Ah, the joys of being young....just wait until you have a kid. With a slight, non-genetic congenital deformity due to birth trauma. Then just TRY to insure your family for less than $500/month.
Slowing down in orbit=moving into lower orbit. There is no such thing as an absolutely perfect orbit for small masses- eventually gravity means it will indeed sprial in from losing momentum to the space station. Do this enough, the space station (a much larger mass, but still small in this equation) will move to a higher orbit though...and start spiraling out.
True enough- but you've got plenty of garbage. Yep- shove it forward and it will move to a higher orbit, due to centripetal force working against the gravity of the earth..
Depends on the direction- launch it in the same orbital plane, but forward, adds momentum and it moves into a higher orbit. Launch it BACKWARDS in the same orbital plane and it would simply spiral in, and be going slow enough not to skip off the outer atmosphere.
Correct Angle= 180 degrees to direction of travel. Gravity does the rest as the garbage spirals in. Pretty easy to use the weight of the space station and a simple spring-launch mechanism for reaction mass to the garbage.
Have to launch it and send it in the opposite direction of orbit for it to fall; but damn, in microgravity it shouldn't be that hard to come up with a spring loaded trash disposal system.....
And if somebody like me spent more than half of Bush's term in office unemployed, you know damn well I won't be voting for Bush. Peroutka, maybe. Badnarik maybe. Kerry maybe. But the Betrayer of the Unborn and the Poor? Never!
Other than the fact that Saddam would have been in violation of the cease fire terms by possessing nukes, the fact that he was in violation of OTHER cease fire terms is entirely beside the point of why America supported Bush's war. The fact that even their last shred of evidence has now been debunked, the aluminum tubes, means that BUSH LIED. Deal with it.
I failed to realize that. I thought they simply anihilated each other- basically "radiating" only lower energy particles past the initial fireball, a burst of energy and then nothing (no LASTING radiation). But you make a good point- and if there's *any* supra-uranium metals nearby, the gamma ray could trigger fission.
the terrorists who are taking away America's liberty?
The Air Force is in an arms race with the Bush Administration?
No, I know what you meant- just the way you wrote it ignored the Mooreian Interpretation. Yes, certainly we are in an arms race if you can fit something that has a fireball the size of Hieroshima in the palm of your hand. That would be the ultimate terrorist weapon. Of course, IIRC, matter-antimatter explosions theoretically are energy only, no alpha, beta, or gamma particles to deal with- so theoretically this would be a much "cleaner" weapon than a nuke.
Better yet, scattershot it- Next time pay for multiple launches, in multiple countries, of very tiny (64 cubic inch) sattelites. Let them just TRY to get them all!
Why must every random idea hit slashdot, regardless of merit?
Because merit is highly arbitrary, and sometimes the best ideas are assumed to have no merit to begin with. Continental drift, I believe, is the classic case of why peer review should never have been the judge of what gets published for scientific papers.
Seems to me that would be the ultimate solution. If you're not familiar with the device, a braile monitor uses steel pins at different heights on a flat, horizontal field to represent colors in a computer graphic. It seems to me that would be the solution required here- but I'm not sure where to get one (as I'm not blind myself) nor have I seen one in several years. You might check out a few schools for the blind and see if this technology is still available.
We've got the same thing Here in Oregon. I even created an Avantgo page on my server made up of the cameras from my commute- all using their easy to understand external developer's guide.
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No. You must be using a hyperbolic definition of closet, when I mean an actual 12x10 room. And go aways from the city, accept substandard construction in the corner of another property, and it comes down to $6/month. Considering that the slaves can live right in their workplace, it drops to zero. (The employer needed to rent a workplace anyhow)
In Oregon, land use zoning prevents such uses- the only way to do that would be with illegal aliens, not slaves.
No. An overseer is the most cost-effective way. You'd really need 2 fulltime overseers, and to make that cost-effective, you'd need 30+ slaves. But that's no problem (even though the overseers should get more than $12k/yr).
Why would we pay overseers any more than minimum wage, if the whole point is to lower our labor costs? They'd be the lowest paid people on the totem pole, wouldn't they?
Hahaha! Transportation for slaves? Ha ha ha. Good one. Part of "slavery" is "no freedom", which means you can't go anywhere.
Depends on what they're doing- you've got to get the slaves to the work somehow- even if that means hauling them to the fields.
You assumed slaves work 16 hour days 7 days per week. It'd be more efficient to go 12/6, to preserve health.
I thought your argument was that slave owners didn't care about the health of the slaves...but fine, 72 hour workweek, that comes to $6.22/hr- MORE expensive than factory minimum wage. Let's also take out the transportation cost, and it's still more than $5.35/hr.
However, all this math of yours avoids looking at undeniable ground level facts. Do you deny that USA employers are occasionally punished for operating "sweatshops"? Slavery would be like a legalized sweatshop, only moreso.
The punishment today for operating a sweatshop is barely token- a very small percentage of the business advantage for operating a sweatshop. And enforcement is minimal. That's where the whole term "working poor" comes from.
And illegal labor is supported by tax dollars- they can survive because none of the welfare forms check for citizenship, only residency. Yet another way that the corporations shift their DUTY to their WORKERS off onto general society.
The insurance CEO's new boat would be part of the cost, if that's what it took to get someone to run an insurance company. Most people don't work for free (maybe you do).
I would if I could figure out some way to get food, clothing, and shelter for free. I can't- so I feel FORCED into working for money. That beside the point- CEOs in our society are WAY overpaid for what little they actually do (all C-level executives are) and are definately not within the Platonic Free Market ideal (of no job being paid any more than 10x any other job- for no man is more than 10x as productive as any other).
No. The difference between costs and spending is the difference between how much money it takes to purchase a particular treatment and how much money you actually spend on all treatments.
And right now- spending is far higher than the majority of Americans can afford at all.
The costs in two different places might be the same, but if the people don't have the money, then there won't be spending.
Nah- what's it to an HMO if they drive their members into bankruptcy as long as costs are controlled and spending is high?
Americans happen to have, in general, more money than other people and so they can spend more when they get sick.
You'd think that- yet well over 80 million Americans are uninsured or underinsured- and every single one of them is one catastrophic illness away from bankruptcy.
No I don't- I was just using it as an example because I happen to know where the emergency communications center is located.
I'll be willing to grant that we had to do something about Iraq *someday*. al Qaida, though, had attacked us just 6 months previous, and we had yet to finish mopping up operations on their structure and support. Now was NOT the time for the United States to go in. Now was possibly the time, if you could get the rest of the nations to agree, for NATO to go in with a token force of American soldiers. Now was possibly the time for Iraq's neighbors to say enough is enough, and let Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Jordan carve up Iraq for themselves. But now was NOT the time for a US invasion unless it could be done using the Colin Powell method.
In September 2003, Qwest Communications International Inc. service was out for 4 hours and 38 minutes after vandals cut fiber-optic cables in Bellingham, Wash.
Seems like a good plot to me- kind of like crashing a truck into the compound in Salem, OR on the corner of Hawthorne and State St. would be the obvious first move of a terror attack in Oregon- by taking out the emergency communications center you'll hinder any response to anything else you do.
And realize that the best way to hide a secret is in plain sight surrounded by lots of other secrets that may or may not be true.
Ah, the joys of being young....just wait until you have a kid. With a slight, non-genetic congenital deformity due to birth trauma. Then just TRY to insure your family for less than $500/month.
That's true- the cost would be labor + supplies, the spending is labor + supplies + your insurance CEO's new boat.
Slowing down in orbit=moving into lower orbit. There is no such thing as an absolutely perfect orbit for small masses- eventually gravity means it will indeed sprial in from losing momentum to the space station. Do this enough, the space station (a much larger mass, but still small in this equation) will move to a higher orbit though...and start spiraling out.
True enough- but you've got plenty of garbage. Yep- shove it forward and it will move to a higher orbit, due to centripetal force working against the gravity of the earth..
Depends on the direction- launch it in the same orbital plane, but forward, adds momentum and it moves into a higher orbit. Launch it BACKWARDS in the same orbital plane and it would simply spiral in, and be going slow enough not to skip off the outer atmosphere.
Correct Angle= 180 degrees to direction of travel. Gravity does the rest as the garbage spirals in. Pretty easy to use the weight of the space station and a simple spring-launch mechanism for reaction mass to the garbage.
Have to launch it and send it in the opposite direction of orbit for it to fall; but damn, in microgravity it shouldn't be that hard to come up with a spring loaded trash disposal system.....
And if somebody like me spent more than half of Bush's term in office unemployed, you know damn well I won't be voting for Bush. Peroutka, maybe. Badnarik maybe. Kerry maybe. But the Betrayer of the Unborn and the Poor? Never!
So, Iraq hadn't been flouting the terms of the 1991 cease-fire? Good to know.
That wasn't the reason Congress voted to authorize the threat of force. Congress authorized the threat of force because Bush said that if we waited we'd have a "Mushroom Cloud over Manhattan"
Other than the fact that Saddam would have been in violation of the cease fire terms by possessing nukes, the fact that he was in violation of OTHER cease fire terms is entirely beside the point of why America supported Bush's war. The fact that even their last shred of evidence has now been debunked, the aluminum tubes, means that BUSH LIED. Deal with it.
They say he could be in Pakistani badlands or possibly Cashmere. Either location would making finding him neigh on impossible.
Seems to me our Indian friends would support a search of Kashmir for him....they'd even send troops to help.
He has to. He's got two, maybe three provinces that are not under his control ready to revolt the second OBL is proved dead.
I failed to realize that. I thought they simply anihilated each other- basically "radiating" only lower energy particles past the initial fireball, a burst of energy and then nothing (no LASTING radiation). But you make a good point- and if there's *any* supra-uranium metals nearby, the gamma ray could trigger fission.
the terrorists who are taking away America's liberty?
The Air Force is in an arms race with the Bush Administration?
No, I know what you meant- just the way you wrote it ignored the Mooreian Interpretation. Yes, certainly we are in an arms race if you can fit something that has a fireball the size of Hieroshima in the palm of your hand. That would be the ultimate terrorist weapon. Of course, IIRC, matter-antimatter explosions theoretically are energy only, no alpha, beta, or gamma particles to deal with- so theoretically this would be a much "cleaner" weapon than a nuke.
Better yet, scattershot it- Next time pay for multiple launches, in multiple countries, of very tiny (64 cubic inch) sattelites. Let them just TRY to get them all!
Why must every random idea hit slashdot, regardless of merit?
Because merit is highly arbitrary, and sometimes the best ideas are assumed to have no merit to begin with. Continental drift, I believe, is the classic case of why peer review should never have been the judge of what gets published for scientific papers.
Be cheaper just to purchase a relief globe, I guess.
Seems to me that would be the ultimate solution. If you're not familiar with the device, a braile monitor uses steel pins at different heights on a flat, horizontal field to represent colors in a computer graphic. It seems to me that would be the solution required here- but I'm not sure where to get one (as I'm not blind myself) nor have I seen one in several years. You might check out a few schools for the blind and see if this technology is still available.
We've got the same thing Here in Oregon. I even created an Avantgo page on my server made up of the cameras from my commute- all using their easy to understand external developer's guide.
Don't forget the cocaine, sex, and political campaign!