Have lawsuits made our country truly better? One of the most frequent lawsuit targets, healthcare, is barely accessible anymore and the costs keep mounting. Compare this to, say some European countries, and there can be a major difference in price and accessibility to the common man.
USA uses three times as much on health care as EU, but USA does not have a healtier population. Moreover, the poor in USA even pay more for the same services than the rich or those that have them covered through their employer. The US health system is in much need of reforms, and more public (i.e. not corporate) services should be established. And then we have the abonimation that is the US legal system that drives the insurances through the roof.
Most CVS commits in OpenBSD have to be approved by someone else, and this is what the OK meant. While some see him as difficult, others sees one that has integrity and is not a sellout of open source ideals just because it is "expedient".
The OpenBSD spamd (greylisting) is IP adress based, and does not work by continously query a DNS blacklist for every mail. But Spamhaus stopped OpenBSD users, in general, to use Spamhaus blacklist.
By allowing only signed drivers it will make it harder for root kit crackers. I don't think there are many voluntaires that write device drivers for Windows in the first place, so the requirement that only companies can get a Publisher Identity Certificate is not that big a loss. The cost of $500 a year is not much for a company, anyway.
Now, there are several open source OS you may use if you care to write your own device drivers, or see how they are made.
Who do you think has more money for lawyers--an alleged spam outfit or a volunteer organization trying to perform what is essentially a public service?
A "public service" that they charge for, and that makes them little different than other companies offering blocking lists. You can _no longer_ download their list of blocked IP adresses unless you pay:
Revision 1.19 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs] , Tue Jul 11 05:40:33 2006 UTC (3 months ago) by djm Branch: MAIN CVS Tags: OPENBSD_4_0_BASE, OPENBSD_4_0, HEAD Changes since 1.18: +1 -10 lines Diff to previous 1.18 (colored)
remove the spamhaus SBL entry
SpamHaus no longer publish their SBL in a free, downloadable form suitable for use with spamd. They obviously care more about subscription dollars than really fighting spam - very sad.
And that is ignoring the fact that the only reason OpenBSD has such a track record for not very many exploitable holes, is because they don't consider any useful tools or applications as part of the base OS.
That is plain wrong, and very much so. OpenbSD is an Operating System, nut just a kernel with GNU userland tacked on.
Here's my challenge to you, install OpenBSD, and nothing else on it, and see how fun your computer experience is.
...that Theo critizes OLPC & Red hat & friends for accepting to sign NDAS to write open source drivers.
Theo, like many others, thinks that accepting NDA is a sell-out.
I mean, isn't ironic that the guy that is saying this is the leader of a open source OS with a license that allows people to write propietary drivers not only without giving the specs, but without giving the source?
You really seems to be missing the point. One of OpenBSD goals is that "We want to make available source code that anyone can use for ANY PURPOSE, with no restrictions. We strive to make our software robust and secure, and encourage companies to use whichever pieces they want to."
is distribution rights of the firmware and documentation, not source code. The "defender" make a big point about vendors not wanting to release source code for firmware, but that is not what is asked for.
This is a common misunderstanding on Slashdot as well, and is seen every time OpenBSD uses public pressure (after months and years of private e-mail correspondance has failed) to get hardware vendors give hardware documentation (freely, not under NDA) and reasonable distribution rights of firmware. Actually, it is quite sad to see so post extolling the glory of GPL and in the next sentence demands the latest binary only driver.
Then you are clearly a pirate, and as we all know pirates like to hump little cabin boys, making you a pedophile as well. Furthermore, pirates spread terror, so you are a terrorist too. Rot in secret CIA prison after being tortured to death, you enemy combatant scum, you !
At my work place I work as a software developer, and recently the management has been so very conserned about processes. So we have to follow a scaled down version of RUP. OK, some kind of structure of the development process is nice (filled with acronyms, and an endless sequence Powerpoint slides).
Now, let me tell why I'm very sceptical of this: We do not have a working bug tracking system (be it an application or paper based). In bug trackin I include the entire process;-) of reporting it, evaluate/classify it, assign it, fix it, test the fix, close the bug, or repeat as needed.
So we have a new process disconnected from what we developers actually do, but the administrative burden has increased much.
> So you can pretty much stick a fork in the idea that the 10th Amendment reserves you any rights that Congress can't take away.
Exactly, it was proved once again when Military Commissions Act 2006 was passed: rollback habeas corpus, use torture, and provide immunity for US officials from torture prosecution.
Nice article that shows that sex education is a bit "limited":
And in spite of the fact that only 15 percent of Americans say they want abstinence-only sex education in the schools, 30 percent of the the principals of public middle schools and high schools where sex education is taught report that their schools teach abstinence-only
> Riiiight, because all of us who grew up with computers are so mentally developmentally retarded it's a wonder we can tie our shoes.
Was that sarcasm, or do you speak of personal experience;-) Essensially substituting the teacher with computer programs of dubious pedagogical value is not particulary helpful for good learning. Computers can be a good supplement, if used wisely at the discretion of a qualified teacher.
We don't have to like each other. But it would be nice if we could appreciate what we mean to each other collectively.
Sure I appreciate what so many users stand for: demands for binary blobs instead of hardware documentation, and then the same users claim it is "immpossible to release it documentation" or demand that I show what business case there is to release said documentation.
I see Obonto as a perversion of what Open Source stands for, but hey, the other commercials distros are following closely.
Flamebait, pure and simple. Listen up, Debianistas: the only hard and fast requirements are encoded in the licenses under which software is released. So, comrades, point to me how the ubuntu project (or any of the other Debian daughters, like, say Xandros) violate the terms of the licenses under which software in the Debian project is released?
Learn to read: No one claimed that Obonto violated licensenses. Obonto is just another commercial outfit that attempts to latch on the
precieved goodwill of open source while advocating and encouraging binary blobs.
The whole Debian/Ubuntu internecine bitchfest reminds me a lot of the communists I knew on campus--the Maoist faction couldn't even be seen with the Stalinist faction. D
Many years ago a classmate went to USA as part of a high school exhange program. When he came back he had this hilarious, but tragic, story : The US higschool he attended had pupils wanting to have a soda machine to buy Coca Cola, so they asked other pupls to contribute what they could. The entire project was cut down because it was "communist".
I'd used Debian before, but not a lot, probably around GNOME 2.6 and lower. That all certainly wasn't there. Then, I decided to fire up VMWare and install Debian Etch just to see how things are moving. It was practically Ubuntu without the splash screen and Add/Remove Programs in the Applications menu.
You will not find Debian writing the root password (or the sudo equivalent) to a log file
like Obonto does. But hey, those gravitating to Obonto never reads
logs do they? Nor do they care about stability for that matter.
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USA uses three times as much on health care as EU, but USA does not have a healtier population. Moreover, the poor in USA even pay more for the same services than the rich or those that have them covered through their employer. The US health system is in much need of reforms, and more public (i.e. not corporate) services should be established. And then we have the abonimation that is the US legal system that drives the insurances through the roof.
The OpenBSD spamd (greylisting) is IP adress based, and does not work by continously query a DNS blacklist for every mail. But Spamhaus stopped OpenBSD users, in general, to use Spamhaus blacklist.
Now, there are several open source OS you may use if you care to write your own device drivers, or see how they are made.
A "public service" that they charge for, and that makes them little different than other companies offering blocking lists. You can _no longer_ download their list of blocked IP adresses unless you pay:
That is plain wrong, and very much so. OpenbSD is an Operating System, nut just a kernel with GNU userland tacked on.
Why don't you try it yourself?
Theo, like many others, thinks that accepting NDA is a sell-out.
You really seems to be missing the point. One of OpenBSD goals is that "We want to make available source code that anyone can use for ANY PURPOSE, with no restrictions. We strive to make our software robust and secure, and encourage companies to use whichever pieces they want to."
Sadly, NDA and binary drivers are accepted by a large part of that community.
But then the OLPC project should say so and not piggy-tail on the percieved value of open source. Understandably, several are disappointed.
This is a common misunderstanding on Slashdot as well, and is seen every time OpenBSD uses public pressure (after months and years of private e-mail correspondance has failed) to get hardware vendors give hardware documentation (freely, not under NDA) and reasonable distribution rights of firmware. Actually, it is quite sad to see so post extolling the glory of GPL and in the next sentence demands the latest binary only driver.
Pegasos was supported on OpenBSD, but was dropped. Seems the Pegasos are made by a bunch of crooks.
You forgot the latest from Bush: Islamo-fasict.
We are not using Rational toolset, or any similar tool. Use of unversioned Microsoft Word documents with a homungus amount of acronyms is mandatory...
Now, let me tell why I'm very sceptical of this: We do not have a working bug tracking system (be it an application or paper based). In bug trackin I include the entire process ;-) of reporting it, evaluate/classify it, assign it, fix it, test the fix, close the bug, or repeat as needed.
So we have a new process disconnected from what we developers actually do, but the administrative burden has increased much.
Go read http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=199277&c id=16328351
> So you can pretty much stick a fork in the idea that the 10th Amendment reserves you any rights that Congress can't take away.
Exactly, it was proved once again when Military Commissions Act 2006 was passed: rollback habeas corpus, use torture, and provide immunity for US officials from torture prosecution.
Sex education in schools seems to be a taboo in USA, unless you count the religious right preaching of "no sex before marriage" as education.
> Riiiight, because all of us who grew up with computers are so mentally developmentally retarded it's a wonder we can tie our shoes.
;-) Essensially
Was that sarcasm, or do you speak of personal experience
substituting the teacher with computer programs of dubious pedagogical
value is not particulary helpful for good learning. Computers can be
a good supplement, if used wisely at the discretion of a qualified teacher.
> But good job on leaping straight to the "brown people must have primitive superstitions" stereotype.
The GP is watching too much Fox "News", I guess.
Seems like you have a good, decent and very solid Kansas education.
Sure I appreciate what so many users stand for: demands for binary blobs instead of hardware documentation, and then the same users claim it is "immpossible to release it documentation" or demand that I show what business case there is to release said documentation.
I see Obonto as a perversion of what Open Source stands for, but hey, the other commercials distros are following closely.
Learn to read: No one claimed that Obonto violated licensenses. Obonto is just another commercial outfit that attempts to latch on the precieved goodwill of open source while advocating and encouraging binary blobs.
Many years ago a classmate went to USA as part of a high school exhange program. When he came back he had this hilarious, but tragic, story : The US higschool he attended had pupils wanting to have a soda machine to buy Coca Cola, so they asked other pupls to contribute what they could. The entire project was cut down because it was "communist".
You will not find Debian writing the root password (or the sudo equivalent) to a log file like Obonto does. But hey, those gravitating to Obonto never reads logs do they? Nor do they care about stability for that matter.
Obonto just leaches on the good name of Debian.
gnome has dependencies that would make a pile of poo proud. Really, package maintainers hate gnome.