that some parts of the USA will be colder than other parts sometime in the next year.
What's really informative about all of these models is that they pretend to model chaotic events. The lessons taught by Dr Lorenz fall on greedy ears.
They can go around predicting earthquakes, but miss just one and their creditbility, and funding, dry up. And miss one they will. These boys need to move their focus to modeling ground water movements. There's government money to be made doing that, or you can supress property rights or free enterprise, and no one will get a chance to criticize your work because the government and the biggest special interest groups are behind it. So, how do you avoid the strange attractor and arrive at previously determined conclusions? Simple. You use the big, second order differential equations as eye candy to blind the ignorant, then you substitute linear equations, disguised with a lot of greek letters, super and subscripts, amid a flood of jargon. Then you run your model backwards! Yup! You start with your desired conclusion and run your model backward to a set a 'inputs', adjusting co-efficients along the way to help out. It doesn't take long to find those 'inputs' in the huge pile of 'data' you've collected. That makes it easy to avoid the insensitivity, nonuniqueness and instability that is common in non-linear systems. Non-linear? That's what the atmosphere, ground water and earth movements are. That they could be accurately and fairly modeled by what are essentially y=mx+b (linear) equations is foolish, if not dishonest.
http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~ldb/seminar/butterfly.ht ml
Of course, that doesn't stop some people from claiming that all they need to do to circumvent Chaos is discover more 'accurate' models. These folks also while away the hours inventing perpetual motion machines or over-unity power sources. Why not? They spent the better part of 50 years writing papers based on the Piltdown Man. http://www.clarku.edu/~piltdown/pp_map.html And what did they do after the hoax was discovered? They claimed they knew it was a hoax all along! In the meantime, over 500 'learned' papers were written using the Piltdown Man as proof of all sorts of Evolutionary theories. Who knows how many Doctorates were handed out on the basis of that scam. But, who cares? Lots of grants were given, salaries funded and careers made using those phony bones. The scams are the same, the bones have changed.
If you want a LIVE-CD of Mandrake then go to their website and download MandrakeMove. They just released it. Two things: it is built around the USB Key and it is available through MandrakeClub.
Three $100M failures is more expensive that one $300M success. It's time we either stop sending a bunch of cheap spacecraft all together, or we send one good one that will work.
You'd think they would appreciate all the money they saved and the extra profits they generated by at least giving a passing nod to what made it all possible: Linux
SCO characterises the licenses as a source of "immunity" from future intellectual property claims.
So, SCO is NOT selling licenses to it own, proven, propriatary code. It is selling the same kind of insurance Capone sold in Chicago.... protection from his own thugs if they paid up.
1) Folks were able to connect to the ftp subnet address with no delays. If the bandwidth were saturated by 34,000 packets/sec there should/would have been considerable ftp acess delays, if a reply would have been sent at all.
2) The uptime.netcraft chart shows no significant response time hash during the two weeks prior to the 'attack', right up to the instant sco.com was turned off. The Network Telescope graphs of examples of SYN flooding show large response time hash amplitudes during an attack.
3) "Network Telescopes" work on the assumption that the spoofed address of a syn flood packet is bogus, so the possibility exists that a portion of them will cover a range of IP addresses where little or no network traffic can be expected. The bigger the range of unused IP addresses that is monitored the bigger the 'lens" of the "Telescope". This 'back scatter' the telescope 'sees' is the victim's box responding with SYN_ACK packets to the spoofed addresses. The Network Telescope cannot distinquish between true and pseudo backscatter. Pseudo backscatter would be SYN_ACK packets that the 'victim' spews out to random IP addresses to make it look like their site is under attack. They turn off normal SYN_ACK handshaking so the site appears 'down'. While they are doing this on one box other boxes on their subnet will be able to response to the normal handshake without any undue delay because the number of valid incoming SYN packets remains the same - hence the lack of hash on uptime.netcraft graphs. Someone at SCO monitored GrokLaw to see the effect of their PR predicting a "12 hour outage" and noticed folks mentioning the fact that the FTP site on the same subnet and, according to ARIN the same location, was not experiencing any delays that would be associated with a massive SYN flood attack, especially one at 34,000/sec. According to SCO, not only did the attack knock their site off line, it also messed up their email, internal databases, and their phones!
I believe SCO committed this 'attack' as a pretext to modify their website by removing some pages and adding others. More significant will be the claims they will make later regarding the availability of documents the court has ordered them to produce.
it is a "myth" to say the OpenSource development model is not working. Linux, KDE, GNOME, and thousands of applications prove otherwise, much to Microsoft's dismay.
However, legally correct business is frequently not good business, and screwing over key people in the Linux community is not a good way to sell subscriptions to the Linux Journal.
Nor is it a good way to renew subscriptions. Mine expires next month, and I am NOT renewing it. LJ should consider that they have competition... "Linux Format", for example, especially if you have a narrow band connection, because this mag comes with two CDs or a DVD chock full of the latests apps, copies of distros, etc...
As Dr Lorenz demonstrated in 1963, long range weather forecasting to any degree of accuracy is doomed to failure, even using several different mathematical models. Even accurate predictions no farther out than 5 days are limited to wind directions, barometric pressures, and the high and low temperatures. Precipitation, like thunderstorms, is 'predicted' in terms of percent probability that your area will get rained on, but even 0% or 100% predictions have often failed. Five years ago, on Oct 14th, none of the 14 inches of heavy wet snow we received was predicted. It downed over 50,000 trees in the city. Our award winning meteorologist spends about half of each broadcast, following a weather event, apologizing for mis-forecasting the previous day's weather. As Dr. Lorenz pointed out, the various runs of the model 'look similar' but that's not the same as a prediction, nor proof that the weather will even obey the model, regardless of what the model says.
Weather prediction is a standing joke. You are use to it. I am used to it. That's about best that can be done, despite all the high powered computers, mathematical models and and their theories. That's the nature of Chaos. Even when a thunderstorm is raging in the next county and heading in your direction there is no model that will predict if and when it will arrive. The 'meteorologists' at most TV stations use composite radar to 'predict' where storms are heading and when they will get there, and they make their predictions only minutes before hand, not hours or days, weeks or months ahead. I find that I can do exactly the same for the Lincoln area, with exactly the same accuracy, using the Omaha composite radar at www.crh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p37cr/si.koax.shtml
The best predictor for bad weather on the NOAA website I gave is the one-hour rain loop. But even when it shows a steadily advancing area of wetness, the "Great Wall of Lincoln" has unpredictable effects in diverting or suppressing rainfall. Ditto for snow and tornadoes.
The really arrogant folks are those who use models to predict global weather 50 years from now, even when they limit their 'predictions' to general high temperature 'averages' for regions like North America or Africa. Such dire 'Global Warming' predictions are fueled not by valid math models, because none exist, but by their political agenda. Those kinds of 'predictions' can only be classed as flagrant propaganda, and people willing to fabricate 'scientific' evidence for their political agendas scare me, just as much as folks who pass laws destroying my Constitutional Rights, while claiming to protect those freedoms from the actions of terrorists. They are from the same mold.
Here is a nice java applet demonstrating the Lorenz Attractor. http://www.exploratorium.edu/complexit y/java/loren z.html
dot bomb explosion, coders were difficult to find and very expensive. My employer decided to give coding apptitude test to any employees willing to take it, to see if any had the apptitude to learn how to code. Three out of 80 or so who applied did well enough to train. None were college grads. The tool was VFP6. After training two of the three worked out, and are actually very good at what they are asked to do. A college degree might just get you in the door, but so will experience. What you do after you get in depends on how smart and agressive you are. The bottom line is $$$. If you can make or save your employer money, they don't care about your educational pedigree.
This discussion has deteriorated into the Extreme Left and the Extreme Right bashing each other over comments each make about Bush.
knock, knock.... does anyone in the class remember what this discussion topic was about?
Going back to the Moon.
The first Moon program, begun by JFK, was an absolute boon to the economy, returning about 7 times to the economy what was spent on the program. Most tech jobs today, and their subsidiary jobs, are a direct spin-off of the Moon program... transistors, plastics, ceramics, biology, medicine, miniturization of computers, software technology (and perhaps Slashdot itself)... the list is too lengthy to put here... owe their current advances to gains made under the first Moon program, and space technology in general.
If a return to the Moon has the same effect this time as it did last time the gains will create employement for a LOT of people and be a boon to the economy.
However, there is one thing we should do first: move our energy base from Carbon to Hydrogen. A Hydrogen Project similar to the "Manhatten Project", sans the secrecy, should be initiated to complete the necessary research, if it needs completion, and begin the transfer of our power generation and transportation industries. Solar Power Tower II is a very good start. Forward thinking communities could divert resources from dead-end Windmill plans to SPT2 sites and get a better return on their investment.
There is less than two decades of Carbon reserves remaining. We've got to get moving...
that Microsoft's web server installs across ALL TOP DOMAINS have dropped to their 1997 levels, while Apache has almost doubled their 1997 levels. No amount of MS PR cash can change that fact.
Hiding your IIS server behind a server mask or mis-identifying it as an Apache server isn't going to stop a virus or trojan... they can't read. They just try the exploit and if it works... it works. Not only has that been happening a lot on IIS servers, and MS software in general, the rates of infections/infectors seem to be growing... which explains why Apache had another large jump since last month, and MS has fallen by almost the same amount.
It's one thing to have your web site broken into, its another thing to pay to have it broken into. That's what you're doing when you buy & install MS web servers and the anti-viral software which supposedly will 'protect' them. It's obvious something is not working....
I was recently looking for pages about the peer review work of the global warming paper underlying the KYOTO Doctrine. Pages less than a month old were removed. Articles on ABC, Time, CNN and newspaper sites by the hundreds have 'old' pages missing.
There is no substitute for the printed page... yet.
In one of the first prosecutions of its kind in the state that made "road rage" famous, Charles Booher, 44, was arrested on Thursday and released on bail for making repeated threats to staff of a Canadian company between May and July.
Rant? What make your opinion better than others. Especially in view of the fact your opinion of the correct spelling of Booher is without attribution.
Charles Booher, the man who became frustrated with penis ads popping up on his computer, received no satisfaction when he used civility in his attempts to pursuade whom he thought was the source of the email and popups to quit sending them to his PC. Their rejection of his requests moved him to higher levels of insistance, and finally to threats, even though he obviously had no means to carry them out.
He was merely venting his anger at the helplessness of his situation. Being powerless does that to people. People in power don't seem to understand this basic fact or, in their arrogance, they have forgotten it.
Congress may finally inact legislation that outlaws spam, giving Mr. Booher, and millions of others, relief from that plague. But, there is something you can do to relieve a plague of another kind: an overly agressive prosecutor who lack common sense or is looking for stepping stone in his/her political career. As a criminal forensic investigator for 15 years, I understand the directive to 'ferret out crime', but I know that prosecutors have their own counsel on whom they choose to prosecute, and why. Work loads, budget limitations, friendships, influence from above, and many other reasons affect whom prosecutors finally choose to prosecute. Many times the choice is arbitrary. Mr Booher probably can't afford a high profile attorney, so he is easy pickings. If the prosecutor in this case would only step back a moment and see how ridiculus this action makes him/her and the department look, perhaps they would reconsider. Considering the circumstances this assult could be dismissed with a 'warning', which I think Mr. Boohers' has already become fully aware.
I can understand his rage. At work, where I am a professional programmer, we have trained IT staff that maintain the interface between my PC and the Internet, and filter out 100's of viruses, trojans, and spam email daily, and their effects on my work PC are greatly reduced. Also, Microsoft Windows environments are extremely susceptible, as you are proabably aware, to such malware and Mr. Boohers' is not the only one making threats to spammers. You can Google the internet and see millions of messages venting the same rage, many of them probably from SF itself. In the age of Radical Extremeists blowing up buildings and murdering thousands of innocent people, prosecuting Mr. Boohers' is like an elementry school principle expelling a first grader for 'possession of a weapon' because he brought fingernail clippers to school, or a girl for 'drug possession' because she has a bottle of asprin in her purse.
If Mr. Boohers' has committed a crime it was that he is using the wrong Operating System. You should advise him to switch to a fine Linux Operating System, like Mandrake 9.2 or SUSE 9.0, and send him out the door. He won't be plagued with any malware ever again, because Linux IS secure. It is also free. That should calm him down even more!
Thanks for your time. jerry Kreps Lincoln, NE.
PS. Isn't the current "Politically Correct" environment making you ill? If mind reading hardware were available I do believe that we'd see prosecutions for what we think, too. Truely, the Bill of Rights seems to be a dead document.
Posted By: Jim Jagielski on November 10, 2003 @ 03:49 PM in response to Message #101148. Just a short note: It is, and has always been, the stated baseline of Geronimo that it not contain any (L)GPL code, whether JBoss derived (in legally specified copyright sense) or not. It's not for any political reasons (and I'm glad to see that this is not degrading into such a forum) but simply because of the letter and spirit of the Apache License. It should also be noted that Geronimo itself is an "project in incubation" within the ASF. It is not (yet) a formal, official ASF project (or subproject under one of the other top level ASF projects). If there is any (L)GPL code within Geronimo, or code that is derived from (L)GPL code (in the legal sense), it will be stripped and replaced. That's just the way it is and it's the way the ASF has always operated.
Also, it should be noted that some exhibits referred to are no longer applicable. For example, Geronimo's Invocation class was entirely rewritten from what was noted in the letter. In other cases, the similarities are due to the fact that they are simple (and trivial) extensions. With XLevel, org.apache.log4j.Level is itself extended, which imposes and provides some of the common structure and names. It has also been noted that for PatternParser, the similarities come from the fact that both code bases implement "nested diagnostic contexts" as described by Neil Harrison in "Patterns for Logging Diagnostic Messages", which can be found in the book "Pattern Languages of Program Design 3", published in 1997 by Addison-Wesley (ISBN: 0201310112). Apache Log4J implements this class in org.apache.log4j.NDC. This class describes how it is to be used, including the use of a "distinctive stamp."
Besides the usual Microsofties using the story to blast Linux (which is probably the ONLY reason they frequent/.), and the clowns who can't get work as a standup comedian, the rest of the comments seem on target: Most of what you learn running about any version of Linux will help you when you run other versions.
I first saw SAVVY while programming Apple computers in late 1980 or early 1981, IIRC. The Apple version required a card be inserted into the PC. The IBM version was all software.
You interacted with SAVVY by issuing "Natural Langauge" requests: "Gimme a list of all Salesmen in Detroit, and how much they've sold during the last quarter".
If it didn't understand 'Gimme' you had to teach it. It might have asked you if you mean 'quarter' as in coin or quarter as in period, if it couldn't determine the meaning from the context.
SAVVY also came with a database and a programming language, a derivative of Forth. It was a very powerful and easy to use tool, but the ability ot communicate with a 'Natural Language' was overrated.. Unfortunately, it was controlled by a person who was one shade shy of paranoia, and was never improved to a networking muti-user application. Current copies will only run on a disk partition = 10MB.
Slashdot Mirror
What's really informative about all of these models is that they pretend to model chaotic events. The lessons taught by Dr Lorenz fall on greedy ears.
They can go around predicting earthquakes, but miss just one and their creditbility, and funding, dry up. And miss one they will. These boys need to move their focus to modeling ground water movements. There's government money to be made doing that, or you can supress property rights or free enterprise, and no one will get a chance to criticize your work because the government and the biggest special interest groups are behind it. So, how do you avoid the strange attractor and arrive at previously determined conclusions? Simple. You use the big, second order differential equations as eye candy to blind the ignorant, then you substitute linear equations, disguised with a lot of greek letters, super and subscripts, amid a flood of jargon. Then you run your model backwards! Yup! You start with your desired conclusion and run your model backward to a set a 'inputs', adjusting co-efficients along the way to help out. It doesn't take long to find those 'inputs' in the huge pile of 'data' you've collected. That makes it easy to avoid the insensitivity, nonuniqueness and instability that is common in non-linear systems. Non-linear? That's what the atmosphere, ground water and earth movements are. That they could be accurately and fairly modeled by what are essentially y=mx+b (linear) equations is foolish, if not dishonest.
http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~ldb/seminar/butterfly.h
Of course, that doesn't stop some people from claiming that all they need to do to circumvent Chaos is discover more 'accurate' models. These folks also while away the hours inventing perpetual motion machines or over-unity power sources. Why not? They spent the better part of 50 years writing papers based on the Piltdown Man. http://www.clarku.edu/~piltdown/pp_map.html
And what did they do after the hoax was discovered? They claimed they knew it was a hoax all along! In the meantime, over 500 'learned' papers were written using the Piltdown Man as proof of all sorts of Evolutionary theories. Who knows how many Doctorates were handed out on the basis of that scam. But, who cares? Lots of grants were given, salaries funded and careers made using those phony bones. The scams are the same, the bones have changed.
Thanks for the heads-up, AstroDabb!
My MDK 9.2 is running Maestro perfectly!
If you want a LIVE-CD of Mandrake then go to their website and download MandrakeMove. They just released it. Two things: it is built around the USB Key and it is available through MandrakeClub.
Ya... it looks like they studied and put into Microsoft engineering methods.
Three $100M failures is more expensive that one $300M success. It's time we either stop sending a bunch of cheap spacecraft all together, or we send one good one that will work.
all of its derivatives.
You'd think they would appreciate all the money they saved and the extra profits they generated by at least giving a passing nod to what made it all possible: Linux
Interesting comment.
When I was a child I had my shoes fitted by one of those xray machines.
So, SCO is NOT selling licenses to it own, proven, propriatary code. It is selling the same kind of insurance Capone sold in Chicago.... protection from his own thugs if they paid up.
1) Folks were able to connect to the ftp subnet address with no delays. If the bandwidth were saturated by 34,000 packets/sec there should/would have been considerable ftp acess delays, if a reply would have been sent at all.
2) The uptime.netcraft chart shows no significant response time hash during the two weeks prior to the 'attack', right up to the instant sco.com was turned off. The Network Telescope graphs of examples of SYN flooding show large response time hash amplitudes during an attack.
3) "Network Telescopes" work on the assumption that the spoofed address of a syn flood packet is bogus, so the possibility exists that a portion of them will cover a range of IP addresses where little or no network traffic can be expected. The bigger the range of unused IP addresses that is monitored the bigger the 'lens" of the "Telescope". This 'back scatter' the telescope 'sees' is the victim's box responding with SYN_ACK packets to the spoofed addresses. The Network Telescope cannot distinquish between true and pseudo backscatter. Pseudo backscatter would be SYN_ACK packets that the 'victim' spews out to random IP addresses to make it look like their site is under attack. They turn off normal SYN_ACK handshaking so the site appears 'down'. While they are doing this on one box other boxes on their subnet will be able to response to the normal handshake without any undue delay because the number of valid incoming SYN packets remains the same - hence the lack of hash on uptime.netcraft graphs. Someone at SCO monitored GrokLaw to see the effect of their PR predicting a "12 hour outage" and noticed folks mentioning the fact that the FTP site on the same subnet and, according to ARIN the same location, was not experiencing any delays that would be associated with a massive SYN flood attack, especially one at 34,000/sec. According to SCO, not only did the attack knock their site off line, it also messed up their email, internal databases, and their phones!
I believe SCO committed this 'attack' as a pretext to modify their website by removing some pages and adding others. More significant will be the claims they will make later regarding the availability of documents the court has ordered them to produce.
it is a "myth" to say the OpenSource development model is not working. Linux, KDE, GNOME, and thousands of applications prove otherwise, much to Microsoft's dismay.
Nor is it a good way to renew subscriptions.
Mine expires next month, and I am NOT renewing it. LJ should consider that they have competition... "Linux Format", for example, especially if you have a narrow band connection, because this mag comes with two CDs or a DVD chock full of the latests apps, copies of distros, etc...
Weather prediction is a standing joke. You are use to it. I am used to it. That's about best that can be done, despite all the high powered computers, mathematical models and and their theories. That's the nature of Chaos. Even when a thunderstorm is raging in the next county and heading in your direction there is no model that will predict if and when it will arrive. The 'meteorologists' at most TV stations use composite radar to 'predict' where storms are heading and when they will get there, and they make their predictions only minutes before hand, not hours or days, weeks or months ahead. I find that I can do exactly the same for the Lincoln area, with exactly the same accuracy, using the Omaha composite radar at www.crh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p37cr/si.koax.shtm
The best predictor for bad weather on the NOAA website I gave is the one-hour rain loop. But even when it shows a steadily advancing area of wetness, the "Great Wall of Lincoln" has unpredictable effects in diverting or suppressing rainfall. Ditto for snow and tornadoes.
The really arrogant folks are those who use models to predict global weather 50 years from now, even when they limit their 'predictions' to general high temperature 'averages' for regions like North America or Africa. Such dire 'Global Warming' predictions are fueled not by valid math models, because none exist, but by their political agenda. Those kinds of 'predictions' can only be classed as flagrant propaganda, and people willing to fabricate 'scientific' evidence for their political agendas scare me, just as much as folks who pass laws destroying my Constitutional Rights, while claiming to protect those freedoms from the actions of terrorists. They are from the same mold.
Here is a nice java applet demonstrating the Lorenz Attractor.
http://www.exploratorium.edu/complexi
dot bomb explosion, coders were difficult to find and very expensive. My employer decided to give coding apptitude test to any employees willing to take it, to see if any had the apptitude to learn how to code. Three out of 80 or so who applied did well enough to train. None were college grads. The tool was VFP6. After training two of the three worked out, and are actually very good at what they are asked to do. A college degree might just get you in the door, but so will experience. What you do after you get in depends on how smart and agressive you are. The bottom line is $$$. If you can make or save your employer money, they don't care about your educational pedigree.
knock, knock.... does anyone in the class remember what this discussion topic was about?
Going back to the Moon.
The first Moon program, begun by JFK, was an absolute boon to the economy, returning about 7 times to the economy what was spent on the program. Most tech jobs today, and their subsidiary jobs, are a direct spin-off of the Moon program... transistors, plastics, ceramics, biology, medicine, miniturization of computers, software technology (and perhaps Slashdot itself)
If a return to the Moon has the same effect this time as it did last time the gains will create employement for a LOT of people and be a boon to the economy.
However, there is one thing we should do first: move our energy base from Carbon to Hydrogen. A Hydrogen Project similar to the "Manhatten Project", sans the secrecy, should be initiated to complete the necessary research, if it needs completion, and begin the transfer of our power generation and transportation industries. Solar Power Tower II is a very good start. Forward thinking communities could divert resources from dead-end Windmill plans to SPT2 sites and get a better return on their investment.
There is less than two decades of Carbon reserves remaining. We've got to get moving...
that Microsoft's web server installs across ALL TOP DOMAINS have dropped to their 1997 levels, while Apache has almost doubled their 1997 levels. No amount of MS PR cash can change that fact.
Hiding your IIS server behind a server mask or mis-identifying it as an Apache server isn't going to stop a virus or trojan... they can't read. They just try the exploit and if it works... it works. Not only has that been happening a lot on IIS servers, and MS software in general, the rates of infections/infectors seem to be growing... which explains why Apache had another large jump since last month, and MS has fallen by almost the same amount.
It's one thing to have your web site broken into, its another thing to pay to have it broken into. That's what you're doing when you buy & install MS web servers and the anti-viral software which supposedly will 'protect' them. It's obvious something is not working....
There is no substitute for the printed page... yet.
In one of the first prosecutions of its kind in the state that made "road rage" famous, Charles Booher, 44, was arrested on Thursday and released on bail for making repeated threats to staff of a Canadian company between May and July.
Rant? What make your opinion better than others. Especially in view of the fact your opinion of the correct spelling of Booher is without attribution.
Charles Booher, the man who became frustrated with penis ads popping up on his computer, received no satisfaction when he used civility in his attempts to pursuade whom he thought was the source of the email and popups to quit sending them to his PC. Their rejection of his requests moved him to higher levels of insistance, and finally to threats, even though he obviously had no means to carry them out.
He was merely venting his anger at the helplessness of his situation. Being powerless does that to people. People in power don't seem to understand this basic fact or, in their arrogance, they have forgotten it.
Congress may finally inact legislation that outlaws spam, giving Mr. Booher, and millions of others, relief from that plague. But, there is something you can do to relieve a plague of another kind: an overly agressive prosecutor who lack common sense or is looking for stepping stone in his/her political career. As a criminal forensic investigator for 15 years, I understand the directive to 'ferret out crime', but I know that prosecutors have their own counsel on whom they choose to prosecute, and why. Work loads, budget limitations, friendships, influence from above, and many other reasons affect whom prosecutors finally choose to prosecute. Many times the choice is arbitrary. Mr Booher probably can't afford a high profile attorney, so he is easy pickings. If the prosecutor in this case would only step back a moment and see how ridiculus this action makes him/her and the department look, perhaps they would reconsider. Considering the circumstances this assult could be dismissed with a 'warning', which I think Mr. Boohers' has already become fully aware.
I can understand his rage. At work, where I am a professional programmer, we have trained IT staff that maintain the interface between my PC and the Internet, and filter out 100's of viruses, trojans, and spam email daily, and their effects on my work PC are greatly reduced. Also, Microsoft Windows environments are extremely susceptible, as you are proabably aware, to such malware and Mr. Boohers' is not the only one making threats to spammers. You can Google the internet and see millions of messages venting the same rage, many of them probably from SF itself. In the age of Radical Extremeists blowing up buildings and murdering thousands of innocent people, prosecuting Mr. Boohers' is like an elementry school principle expelling a first grader for 'possession of a weapon' because he brought fingernail clippers to school, or a girl for 'drug possession' because she has a bottle of asprin in her purse.
If Mr. Boohers' has committed a crime it was that he is using the wrong Operating System. You should advise him to switch to a fine Linux Operating System, like Mandrake 9.2 or SUSE 9.0, and send him out the door. He won't be plagued with any malware ever again, because Linux IS secure. It is also free. That should calm him down even more!
Thanks for your time.
jerry Kreps
Lincoln, NE.
PS. Isn't the current "Politically Correct" environment making you ill? If mind reading hardware were available I do believe that we'd see prosecutions for what we think, too. Truely, the Bill of Rights seems to be a dead
document.
Unless you stole it from the tax payers.. html
http://www.billparish.com/msftfraudfacts
I'll tell you OpenSource is better, and prove it.
Posted By: Jim Jagielski on November 10, 2003 @ 03:49 PM in response to Message #101148.
Just a short note: It is, and has always been, the stated baseline of Geronimo that it not contain any (L)GPL code, whether JBoss derived (in legally specified copyright sense) or not. It's not for any political reasons (and I'm glad to see that this is not degrading into such a forum) but simply because of the letter and spirit of the Apache License. It should also be noted that Geronimo itself is an "project in incubation" within the ASF. It is not (yet) a formal, official ASF project (or subproject under one of the other top level ASF projects). If there is any (L)GPL code within Geronimo, or code that is derived from (L)GPL code (in the legal sense), it will be stripped and replaced. That's just the way it is and it's the way the ASF has always operated.
Also, it should be noted that some exhibits referred to are no longer applicable. For example, Geronimo's Invocation class was entirely rewritten from what was noted in the letter. In other cases, the similarities are due to the fact that they are simple (and trivial) extensions. With XLevel, org.apache.log4j.Level is itself extended, which imposes and provides some of the common structure and names. It has also been noted that for PatternParser, the similarities come from the fact that both code bases implement "nested diagnostic contexts" as described by Neil Harrison in "Patterns for Logging Diagnostic Messages", which can be found in the book "Pattern Languages of Program Design 3", published in 1997 by Addison-Wesley (ISBN: 0201310112). Apache Log4J implements this class in org.apache.log4j.NDC. This class describes how it is to be used, including the use of a "distinctive stamp."
import org.apache.log4j.helpers.PatternConverter
import org.apache.log4j.helpers.PatternParser.
Yup. It looks like copying OK, JBoss has been copying the Apache log4j code.
Besides the usual Microsofties using the story to blast Linux (which is probably the ONLY reason they frequent
I first saw SAVVY while programming Apple computers in late 1980 or early 1981, IIRC.
The Apple version required a card be inserted into the PC. The IBM version was all software.
You interacted with SAVVY by issuing "Natural Langauge" requests: "Gimme a list of all Salesmen in Detroit, and how much they've sold during the last quarter".
If it didn't understand 'Gimme' you had to teach it. It might have asked you if you mean 'quarter' as in coin or quarter as in period, if it couldn't determine the meaning from the context.
SAVVY also came with a database and a programming language, a derivative of Forth. It was a very powerful and easy to use tool, but the ability ot communicate with a 'Natural Language' was overrated.. Unfortunately, it was controlled by a person who was one shade shy of paranoia, and was never improved to a networking muti-user application. Current copies will only run on a disk partition = 10MB.