Why in the hell would I want OOP at the script level?
Ah, you or I wouldn't want it, but think about an object for a moment. It is derived from an MS supplied ancestor which contains properties and methods. You can sublclass to add your own, but do you know the names of all the properties and methods that MS installed so you can override them? Nope. Objects at the TCL allows Microsoft to add DRM to the TCL. Bill will determine what your subclasses can do, and what they can't do. You will not, or course, be able to control what Bill can do with your PC when you run one of 'your' scripts. It's for security, of course.
Incomplete, db connection thread die-offs, Borland's refusal to admit obvious, documented bugs.... fixes appeared in version 2, months later. I downloaded version 3 and noticed things hadn't improved, they got worse. Version 3 wouldn't run on my box.
and the number of their sites are rising, while Microsoft powers only 21% and their site count is falling. http://news.netcraft.com/
Apache is FREE, but you have to pay Microsoft for the priviledge of getting your IIS & SQL Server sites infected with script kiddie viruses. How do you explain this, Mr. Howard, if MS employs such vaunted and highly skilled software engineers and Apache is written by volunteers and pimple-faced kids?
You are obviously not interested in facts, only smear. This raises the question of motive. What would you profit by writing such hog wash? It certainly hasn't added to your integrity or professional standing. Who are you trying to score points with? By spitting into the wind of experience (FEDEX, Amazon, PostOffice, NYSE, US ARMY, Google, and Microsoft itself when it resorted to hosting its patches on Linux servers because it couldn't keep its own dog food up, and many cities and government around the world) you can't seriously suggest that these folks are deluded or ignorant. That only leaves your personal motivation to consider. Since this tantrum will only enhance your personal standing among Microsoft fanatics the only other upside would be a cash donation to your personal bank account. Has it arrived yet?
Princeton University should re-evaluate your credentials for employment. Anyone with analytical and research skills so obviously poor as yours must have padded their resume.
Just use Google and select all his articles and postings. After viewing a few randomly chosen ones you understand why Enderle has earned the title "Microsoft Sock Puppet".
He only adds to his reputation by making 'suggestions' for improving WinXX security.
so if you don't like their policies, EULAs and other conditions of sale then
DON'T PURCHASE THEIR PRODUCTS!!
You can't send a stronger message than that.
I have a Lexmark z52 printer on the shelf behind me. It is in working order and I can get refiller kits for the cartridges and I used to be able to get economical replacement cartridges for it. But, since Lexmark began this new anti-consumer policy I will never use it again. Further, I will tell everyone who asks my opinion about what printer to buy, and even though I am a retired consultant there are still many who do, to STAY AWAY FROM LEXMARK PRODUCTS!! Not just the printers. If they's start this stuff with the printers their other products will soon follow.
Maybe, just maybe, they'll get the message or get driven out of business.
It appears that the monies spent by the The Law and Economics Center , and other similar organizations, to wine and dine judges while giving them lessons on how to circumvent the plain meaning of the various laws designed to protect consumers rights is paying big dividends. http://www.tripsforjudges.org It should also come as no suprise that three of the judges: Cynthia Hall, Alex Kozinski and Diarmuid F. Scannlain, (One judge, A. Wallace Tashima, sponsored by the ABA, attended 19 TIMES in a 3 year period!), who were envolved in the DOJ vs Microsoft appeal, attended the LEC institute and the goal was how to get around the Sherman-Clayton Anti-trust Act.
With congressmen salting legislation in return for 'campaign donations' (which they can personally keep) and now judges being bribed to circumvent the consumer protection laws the whole system seems corrupt, from top to bottom.
for my local electrical system during a recent year is: 117 - lightning
94 - squirrels
67 - wind related
54 - trees
17 - birds
Terrorists, and other conspiracy theories, couldn't add to significantly to that number. In 1997 we had a 14 inch snowstorm on Oct 14th that broke down over 50,000 trees and caused a lot of localize outages. Things like this happen. That's why your power company usually publishes a yearly bulletin indicating the percentage of 'uptime' for that year. It's usually well over 99%.
This doesn't change the fact that the world's stores of fossil fuel are finite and approaching exhaustion. People in their 50's will see the end of fossile fuel usage in their lifetime, if not sooner. Fission and fusion reactors both suffer from the problems of long term radioactive isotope disposal. (Yes, I know that fission is supposed to be 'clean', but it's not. Anything to operates at the temperatures that a fusion reactor will operate at will product radioactive isotopes in the support equipment, which will have to be disposed of.) The only viable long term solution is a grid of Solar Power Towers generating Hydrogen for transporation and Electricity for the grid.
If that doesn't do it they'll sober up when they realize the total extra cost of re-buying Office and all the other software they used on XP or W2K or Win9X but won't run on Win2003. Oh, and the new client side licenses for their existing WinXXX. They'll especially love those naggling little DRM micropayments that suddenly appear in their mail box each month. Bill said he was movng toward the subscription model. He meant it.
The SMART 1 is going into Lunar polar orbit with 14 meter solar panels unfurled. With the solar wind push aiding on one side and opposing on the other will the ion engine have enough thrust to counter the effects of the solar wind?
Maybe, if they did half-turns of the solar panels on every orbit they could elongate the orbit enough to break free or perhaps make Earth one of the axis points. ???
Linux will get tainted with "perennial legal problems".
That would be true only if people suspected that SCO had some justification and a chance to win their suit. The way it's turned out (past tense) McBride shot his mouth off one too many times and now people see him as merely bombastic. The big turn-a-round came when he showed 'infringed code' at his not so big West Coast affair last month, and it was quickly shown to be BSD-type legacy code. Combine that with legal-types stepping into the fray with analyses of SCO's chances of proving their claims and you have a complete route. With SCO being counter-sued for IP theft they don't have enough money in their coffers (nor in the Canopy Group coffers) to sustain a legal battle against the charges, and they've exhausted all takers for their bogus Unix 'license'. MS and Sun can only do that once, and no one else is interested.
The only other group of people who 'think' SCO has a chance are those dedicated Microsurfties who push MS PR for personal profit while claiming to be unbiased 'analysts'.
HP came out with this PR tactic because they know the battle is over and SCO has lost. Watch other companies take the same pledge in order to keep their Linux market alive.
What if a transaction depends on 3 objects getting serialized or none at all, guess you're out of luck.
It seems that you are not alone in your failure to read the information on the website, or read it more carefully. See: http://www.prevayler.org/wiki.jsp?topic=RollbackIs Needless
"Rollback is not a feature. It is a workaround for limitations in database technology.
Prevayler provides all ACID transaction properties without using rollback logic. Since traditional databases, on the other hand, have to use rollback logic to implement ACID properties anyway, they also offer you rollback to use if you want.
People use rollback to undo the operations that they have speculatively applied to the database until one of the following happens:
The user (or the master in a distributed transaction cenario) decides to give up.
They realize the transaction would produce an inconsistent state.
The reason why operations have to be speculatively applied is that transactions take time to execute in traditional databases. The database cannot simply wait until commit to start applying the operations.
With prevalence you no longer need rollback. Instantaneous Transactions simply eliminate the need to speculatively apply operations to the system before the user (or the master) commits.
To deal with the committing of inconsistent transactions, you just have to determine wether the transaction is inconsistent BEFORE starting to apply it. Every operation that could possibly fail must have explicitly verifiable pre-conditions (good practice anyway).
Some people suggested every business object could provide an undo operation for every operation. Having to implement undo methods for every change (and propagating those undo methods through the business object trees) is impractical for the amount of work and is extremely error-prone, though.
Object-oriented databases try to make everything "transparently" undoable. Changes are made to clones of the real business objects; on commit the changes are synched and the clones discarded. This is pretty complex to implement if you want it to be minimally invasive, however, and extremely slow because every single variable access (including reads) requires indirection.
That is why Prevayler is so much faster and simpler than OO databases even. "
What's the difference between designing a shock absorber that's used in ten million cars and singing a song that's listened by ten million people?
The shock absorber will be used every time the car is driven, which could occur daily for years. The song will be replayed until it looses its 'appeal', which usually fades after a couple of weeks. Obviously, something that blinds people to reality is worth much more than something which merely shields them from bumps on the highway, which also explains the huge sales figures for fat-loss pills and plans. It doesn't matter that the next plan works no better than the last plan -- they are paying for the illusion that they (the fat person) are 'working' on the problem. Meanwhile, blame the 'glands' and pig out!
Yeah, but if I rent a car, I expect to get the keys to it, including the ones that open the trunk and the gas opening.
Sure, that's what you expect. But, after the laws are passed, that's not what you'll get. No keys for the gas tank or trunk means that you can only go as far as 1/2 a tank will take you, with no baggage.
Translation: We can only close the door after the fox has raided the henhouse. Util we see how he does it we can't make an anti-pick device to prevent them from breaking in the first million times.
Of course, making anti-pick devices (exploit tools) illegal won't interfer with the activities of the criminal class any more than making firearms illegal has bothered them. This CEO is just another in the class of people who just can't seem to grasp the fact that lawbreakers don't care about laws.
The tools that create exploits are the tools the create software: lanugages and compilers for them. A case can be made that the Corporations real agenda is to gain control of the tools for making software. If your product isn't needed by the Linux platform then the Linux platform is your enemy. If they get compilers outlawed only outlaws will use them. It won't stop the flood of WinXX infectors, as if Symantec wanted that flood to stop their only income stream, but it will stop folks from migrating away from WinXX to a platform that doesn't need their Symantec's software.
Ok all you Sun-bashers out there... what happens to OpenOffice if you get your way and Sun folds up shop?
You really don't have a clue, do you? It's obvious you've never used OO or read the licenses.
Check here: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/mostfaqs.html#3
Can Sun ever take away the code?
The simple answer to this is NO. Once code is released under the LGPL, it can never be taken away. Once LGPL, always LGPL. Sun has no plans to return to a closed-development model. Sun is subject to the same rules as the rest of the community, including giving back modifications under the LGPL (or a specification and reference implementation under the terms of the SISSL). Thus, Sun can never take away the code and the community's contributions to it. This code belongs to the community as guaranteed by the LGPL and the SISSL.
How will Sun participate in the GPL community?
Sun began its contribution to this project by opening the new sources currently in development which will deliver the future StarOffice Productivity Suite 6.0. Sun functions as a full member of the open community and Sun's engineering efforts are directed toward collaboration with the open community, working off of a single, open CVS tree hosted at OpenOffice.org. From here on out, all of our work on the office productivity components will be in the open.
Will Sun continue to work on the StarOffice software sources as part of OpenOffice.org?
Yes. Sun has a full team of dedicated engineers working on developing StarOffice software who will continue work on the OpenOffice.org version. Sun is dedicated to the effort which will make OpenOffice.org a success.
Linux has no chance on the desktop without a top-quality office suite, and Sun Microsystems has a bunch of paid developers making sure we continue to have one.
Sun knew StarOffice 5.0 wasn't good enough to compete against MS Office. They also knew they didn't have the programming resources to improve SO 5.0 in any reasonable time. They gave SO 5.0 to the OpenSource community more to fight Microsoft than to help Linux or the OpenSource. In reality, it is Sun exploiting the OpenOffice developers to enhance its own propriatary version, StarOffice. There are MANY MORE coders working on OpenSource than Sun has working on StarOffice.
So before you wish for the death of Sun, think about this:
Linux kills off Sun Without continued development of OpenOffice, Linux never reaches the mainstream desktop Microsoft eventually figures out a way to lock the Windows desktop to Windows servers (DRM?) Linux becomes useless on servers and is replaced by Windows Microsoft uber alles Now, do you really think Sun is the enemy?
Your "sillygism" fails on your second premise, as I've noted above. It is also defective on the third premise. Microsoft already tried locking WIndows to Microsoft servers -- remember Passport & Hailstorm? Therefore, your conclusion fails.
Yes, Sun is still the enemy. Schartz himself has said so in the article this thread references. You are in denial.
SCO & McBride - playing the role of Mussolini, the cocky loudmouth tyrant who owes his life to Hitler.
Sun & Schwartz - playing the role of the Emperor, egotistical and proud. (He was intially scheduled to play nilatS, Stalin in reverse, because Sun seemed allied with the forces of freedom in the beginning but now is working with Hitler. Besides, Stalin was never considered part of the Axis Powers.) Believing the Sun rises and sets on him and his empire, he makes alliances with Mussolini and knows full well that sooner or later he'll have to deal with Hitler. Like Hitler, he believes that "There can be only one."
MS & Gates - playing Hitler and out to own the entire world, including those territories of Mussolini and the Emporer, no matter what laws are broken or who gets burned. His Panzer Cash units, having done their work in America, are burning trails of greed and deception throughout Europe, Asia and Down Under, but legions of resistance fighters around the world, under the symbol of the Penquin, are beginning to reverse the fortunes his Panzers have brought him. Will he be able to subvert all governments and politicians, using his DMCA and Patent Rockets, into making freedom illegal? His intial success with the DOJ, snatching Victory out of the Jaws of Defeat, seem to indicate so, but losses in China and some cities around the world indicate another outcome.
Will Hitler succeed in emerging as the Lone World Dictator, errecting Iron Curtains around the Internet and PC hardware, with all access points guarded by DRM chips?
MONEY! Who do you know that more of it than anyone else?
Gates has plenty of it and there are folks in high places willing to sell their mothers for it, so don't expect software IP patents to go away anytime soon.
The question Linux coders who want to continue using MONO have to ask themselves is: "Do I have enough money to defend myself against an MS lawsuit?"
If so, then the next question is "Will the 9th Circut court of appeals throw out a win I might have and give the decision to MS?" Or, put another way, "IF Boise and the DOJ can win against MS but get their victory thrown away by "negotiations" in the appeals process, what chance do I have against MS and 6 of 9 Judges who attended a workshop at George Washington University designed to reveal ways to neutralize the US anti-monoply laws?"
Forget.NET and get a reality check. It was De Icaza's pipe dream but there is no way MS will let OpenSource or Linux benefit from it.
Venus is virtually the same size as Earth and, on average, is our nearest neighbour. Today, its atmospheric temperatures are hot enough to melt lead and concentrated sulfuric acid continuously drizzles down from thick sulphurous clouds that completely block out the Sun.
And you don't think the fact that Venus is MUCH closer to the Sun has anything to do with its hotter temperatures? If the distance from the Sun to the Earth were to change by only a few percent either way we'd become a desert planet or we'd be an ice ball, and the activities of Man would have nothing to do with the outcome.
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Ah, you or I wouldn't want it, but think about an object for a moment. It is derived from an MS supplied ancestor which contains properties and methods. You can sublclass to add your own, but do you know the names of all the properties and methods that MS installed so you can override them? Nope. Objects at the TCL allows Microsoft to add DRM to the TCL. Bill will determine what your subclasses can do, and what they can't do. You will not, or course, be able to control what Bill can do with your PC when you run one of 'your' scripts. It's for security, of course.
Are you using the LH demo where everyone is partying in Paradise and life is easy?
While the deoms are fantastic, the real products tend to resemble Hell, not Paradise, and you have to pay for your experience.
when it first came out.
Incomplete, db connection thread die-offs, Borland's refusal to admit obvious, documented bugs.... fixes appeared in version 2, months later. I downloaded version 3 and noticed things hadn't improved, they got worse. Version 3 wouldn't run on my box.
All the usual problems with proprietary software.
and the number of their sites are rising, while Microsoft powers only 21% and their site count is falling. http://news.netcraft.com/
Apache is FREE, but you have to pay Microsoft for the priviledge of getting your IIS & SQL Server sites infected with script kiddie viruses. How do you explain this, Mr. Howard, if MS employs such vaunted and highly skilled software engineers and Apache is written by volunteers and pimple-faced kids?
You are obviously not interested in facts, only smear. This raises the question of motive. What would you profit by writing such hog wash? It certainly hasn't added to your integrity or professional standing. Who are you trying to score points with? By spitting into the wind of experience (FEDEX, Amazon, PostOffice, NYSE, US ARMY, Google, and Microsoft itself when it resorted to hosting its patches on Linux servers because it couldn't keep its own dog food up, and many cities and government around the world) you can't seriously suggest that these folks are deluded or ignorant. That only leaves your personal motivation to consider. Since this tantrum will only enhance your personal standing among Microsoft fanatics the only other upside would be a cash donation to your personal bank account. Has it arrived yet?
Princeton University should re-evaluate your credentials for employment. Anyone with analytical and research skills so obviously poor as yours must have padded their resume.
Quicken: MoneyDance 3.x I've been using it for three years and it works just as well as Quicken
TurboTax: I've been using an online service for $15, state tax included. Works great.
Microsoft Office: OpenOffice. Works better!
Paintshop pro: I use GIMP, OpenOffice, Blender, etc.
Putt Putt goes to the Moon: who cares?
These are all "my wife is better looking than your wife" issues, not proof of any superiority.
an unusually large number of Microsoftie Astroturfers.
They only wish Linux was not ready for the desktop.
https://www.donotcall.gov/Complain/ComplainCheck.a spx
Running Mandrake 9.1 + KDE and using Konqueror I had/have NO problems with Slashdot.
Why both Slashdot?
Just use Google and select all his articles and postings. After viewing a few randomly chosen ones you understand why Enderle has earned the title "Microsoft Sock Puppet".
He only adds to his reputation by making 'suggestions' for improving WinXX security.
DON'T PURCHASE THEIR PRODUCTS!!
You can't send a stronger message than that.
I have a Lexmark z52 printer on the shelf behind me. It is in working order and I can get refiller kits for the cartridges and I used to be able to get economical replacement cartridges for it. But, since Lexmark began this new anti-consumer policy I will never use it again. Further, I will tell everyone who asks my opinion about what printer to buy, and even though I am a retired consultant there are still many who do, to STAY AWAY FROM LEXMARK PRODUCTS!! Not just the printers. If they's start this stuff with the printers their other products will soon follow.
Maybe, just maybe, they'll get the message or get driven out of business.
It appears that the monies spent by the The Law and Economics Center , and other similar organizations, to wine and dine judges while giving them lessons on how to circumvent the plain meaning of the various laws designed to protect consumers rights is paying big dividends. http://www.tripsforjudges.org It should also come as no suprise that three of the judges: Cynthia Hall, Alex Kozinski and Diarmuid F. Scannlain, (One judge, A. Wallace Tashima, sponsored by the ABA, attended 19 TIMES in a 3 year period!), who were envolved in the DOJ vs Microsoft appeal, attended the LEC institute and the goal was how to get around the Sherman-Clayton Anti-trust Act.
With congressmen salting legislation in return for 'campaign donations' (which they can personally keep) and now judges being bribed to circumvent the consumer protection laws the whole system seems corrupt, from top to bottom.
for my local electrical system during a recent year is:
117 - lightning
94 - squirrels
67 - wind related
54 - trees
17 - birds
Terrorists, and other conspiracy theories, couldn't add to significantly to that number. In 1997 we had a 14 inch snowstorm on Oct 14th that broke down over 50,000 trees and caused a lot of localize outages. Things like this happen. That's why your power company usually publishes a yearly bulletin indicating the percentage of 'uptime' for that year. It's usually well over 99%.
This doesn't change the fact that the world's stores of fossil fuel are finite and approaching exhaustion. People in their 50's will see the end of fossile fuel usage in their lifetime, if not sooner. Fission and fusion reactors both suffer from the problems of long term radioactive isotope disposal. (Yes, I know that fission is supposed to be 'clean', but it's not. Anything to operates at the temperatures that a fusion reactor will operate at will product radioactive isotopes in the support equipment, which will have to be disposed of.) The only viable long term solution is a grid of Solar Power Towers generating Hydrogen for transporation and Electricity for the grid.
they get tagged with serveral Win2003 viruses.
If that doesn't do it they'll sober up when they realize the total extra cost of re-buying Office and all the other software they used on XP or W2K or Win9X but won't run on Win2003. Oh, and the new client side licenses for their existing WinXXX. They'll especially love those naggling little DRM micropayments that suddenly appear in their mail box each month. Bill said he was movng toward the subscription model. He meant it.
The SMART 1 is going into Lunar polar orbit with 14 meter solar panels unfurled. With the solar wind push aiding on one side and opposing on the other will the ion engine have enough thrust to counter the effects of the solar wind?
Maybe, if they did half-turns of the solar panels on every orbit they could elongate the orbit enough to break free or perhaps make Earth one of the axis points. ???
x-raying the Moon rocks brought back by the Apollo missions.
but probably not as well paid^^^^ campaign funded.
I'm afraid you are wrong.
Linux will get tainted with "perennial legal problems".
That would be true only if people suspected that SCO had some justification and a chance to win their suit. The way it's turned out (past tense) McBride shot his mouth off one too many times and now people see him as merely bombastic. The big turn-a-round came when he showed 'infringed code' at his not so big West Coast affair last month, and it was quickly shown to be BSD-type legacy code. Combine that with legal-types stepping into the fray with analyses of SCO's chances of proving their claims and you have a complete route. With SCO being counter-sued for IP theft they don't have enough money in their coffers (nor in the Canopy Group coffers) to sustain a legal battle against the charges, and they've exhausted all takers for their bogus Unix 'license'. MS and Sun can only do that once, and no one else is interested.
The only other group of people who 'think' SCO has a chance are those dedicated Microsurfties who push MS PR for personal profit while claiming to be unbiased 'analysts'.
HP came out with this PR tactic because they know the battle is over and SCO has lost. Watch other companies take the same pledge in order to keep their Linux market alive.
It seems that you are not alone in your failure to read the information on the website, or read it more carefully.
See: http://www.prevayler.org/wiki.jsp?topic=RollbackI
"Rollback is not a feature. It is a workaround for limitations in database technology.
Prevayler provides all ACID transaction properties without using rollback logic. Since traditional databases, on the other hand, have to use rollback logic to implement ACID properties anyway, they also offer you rollback to use if you want.
People use rollback to undo the operations that they have speculatively applied to the database until one of the following happens:
The user (or the master in a distributed transaction cenario) decides to give up.
They realize the transaction would produce an inconsistent state.
The reason why operations have to be speculatively applied is that transactions take time to execute in traditional databases. The database cannot simply wait until commit to start applying the operations.
With prevalence you no longer need rollback. Instantaneous Transactions simply eliminate the need to speculatively apply operations to the system before the user (or the master) commits.
To deal with the committing of inconsistent transactions, you just have to determine wether the transaction is inconsistent BEFORE starting to apply it. Every operation that could possibly fail must have explicitly verifiable pre-conditions (good practice anyway).
Some people suggested every business object could provide an undo operation for every operation. Having to implement undo methods for every change (and propagating those undo methods through the business object trees) is impractical for the amount of work and is extremely error-prone, though.
Object-oriented databases try to make everything "transparently" undoable. Changes are made to clones of the real business objects; on commit the changes are synched and the clones discarded. This is pretty complex to implement if you want it to be minimally invasive, however, and extremely slow because every single variable access (including reads) requires indirection.
That is why Prevayler is so much faster and simpler than OO databases even. "
The shock absorber will be used every time the car is driven, which could occur daily for years. The song will be replayed until it looses its 'appeal', which usually fades after a couple of weeks. Obviously, something that blinds people to reality is worth much more than something which merely shields them from bumps on the highway, which also explains the huge sales figures for fat-loss pills and plans. It doesn't matter that the next plan works no better than the last plan -- they are paying for the illusion that they (the fat person) are 'working' on the problem. Meanwhile, blame the 'glands' and pig out!
Sure, that's what you expect. But, after the laws are passed, that's not what you'll get. No keys for the gas tank or trunk means that you can only go as far as 1/2 a tank will take you, with no baggage.
Of course, making anti-pick devices (exploit tools) illegal won't interfer with the activities of the criminal class any more than making firearms illegal has bothered them. This CEO is just another in the class of people who just can't seem to grasp the fact that lawbreakers don't care about laws.
The tools that create exploits are the tools the create software: lanugages and compilers for them. A case can be made that the Corporations real agenda is to gain control of the tools for making software. If your product isn't needed by the Linux platform then the Linux platform is your enemy. If they get compilers outlawed only outlaws will use them. It won't stop the flood of WinXX infectors, as if Symantec wanted that flood to stop their only income stream, but it will stop folks from migrating away from WinXX to a platform that doesn't need their Symantec's software.
You really don't have a clue, do you? It's obvious you've never used OO or read the licenses.
Check here: http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/mostfaqs.html#3
Linux has no chance on the desktop without a top-quality office suite, and Sun Microsystems has a bunch of paid developers making sure we continue to have one.
Sun knew StarOffice 5.0 wasn't good enough to compete against MS Office. They also knew they didn't have the programming resources to improve SO 5.0 in any reasonable time. They gave SO 5.0 to the OpenSource community more to fight Microsoft than to help Linux or the OpenSource. In reality, it is Sun exploiting the OpenOffice developers to enhance its own propriatary version, StarOffice. There are MANY MORE coders working on OpenSource than Sun has working on StarOffice.
So before you wish for the death of Sun, think about this:
Linux kills off Sun
Without continued development of OpenOffice, Linux never reaches the mainstream desktop
Microsoft eventually figures out a way to lock the Windows desktop to Windows servers (DRM?)
Linux becomes useless on servers and is replaced by Windows
Microsoft uber alles
Now, do you really think Sun is the enemy?
Your "sillygism" fails on your second premise, as I've noted above.
It is also defective on the third premise. Microsoft already tried locking WIndows to Microsoft servers -- remember Passport & Hailstorm?
Therefore, your conclusion fails.
Yes, Sun is still the enemy. Schartz himself has said so in the article this thread references. You are in denial.
Sun & Schwartz - playing the role of the Emperor, egotistical and proud. (He was intially scheduled to play nilatS, Stalin in reverse, because Sun seemed allied with the forces of freedom in the beginning but now is working with Hitler. Besides, Stalin was never considered part of the Axis Powers.) Believing the Sun rises and sets on him and his empire, he makes alliances with Mussolini and knows full well that sooner or later he'll have to deal with Hitler. Like Hitler, he believes that "There can be only one."
MS & Gates - playing Hitler and out to own the entire world, including those territories of Mussolini and the Emporer, no matter what laws are broken or who gets burned. His Panzer Cash units, having done their work in America, are burning trails of greed and deception throughout Europe, Asia and Down Under, but legions of resistance fighters around the world, under the symbol of the Penquin, are beginning to reverse the fortunes his Panzers have brought him. Will he be able to subvert all governments and politicians, using his DMCA and Patent Rockets, into making freedom illegal? His intial success with the DOJ, snatching Victory out of the Jaws of Defeat, seem to indicate so, but losses in China and some cities around the world indicate another outcome.
Will Hitler succeed in emerging as the Lone World Dictator, errecting Iron Curtains around the Internet and PC hardware, with all access points guarded by DRM chips?
It's a true Cliff-Hanger! Only time will tell.
SCO's lawyers "should have known" the history of their poster child code examples.
Gates has plenty of it and there are folks in high places willing to sell their mothers for it, so don't expect software IP patents to go away anytime soon.
The question Linux coders who want to continue using MONO have to ask themselves is: "Do I have enough money to defend myself against an MS lawsuit?"
If so, then the next question is "Will the 9th Circut court of appeals throw out a win I might have and give the decision to MS?" Or, put another way, "IF Boise and the DOJ can win against MS but get their victory thrown away by "negotiations" in the appeals process, what chance do I have against MS and 6 of 9 Judges who attended a workshop at George Washington University designed to reveal ways to neutralize the US anti-monoply laws?"
Forget
And you don't think the fact that Venus is MUCH closer to the Sun has anything to do with its hotter temperatures? If the distance from the Sun to the Earth were to change by only a few percent either way we'd become a desert planet or we'd be an ice ball, and the activities of Man would have nothing to do with the outcome.