This isnt specific to windows or any other OS for that matter. If any user can get arbitrary code to run with a higher privilege level than their own, this kind of hole exists.
You apparently failed to read the article. It concerns weakness in Win API calls, like WM_TIMER, for example, that gives an untrusted user the ability to achive LocalSystem priviledges. An 'untrusted' user is a virus or worm. As a WinXX user you should be familiar with them.;-) Additionally, since anit-virus programs have to run with registry access they offer the 'untrusted' user/virus access to LocalSystem and there is nothing the owner of the box running WinXX can do about it except repeat the MS Mantra: reboot, rebuild, reinstall.
No significant GNOME or KDE application is written in Java
I've been using MoneyDance for over two years. It's written in Java (swing) and is a very nice app.
And if Mono / DotGNU does make progress, I'm betting they get sued for patent infringement.
I wouldn't doubt that. In fact, De Icaza is wasting a lot of time and effort on MONO for that very reason. That's why I think MONO is a 'honeypot' designed to trap Linux coder bees, removing them from serious projects.
User mode Linux 'superior' to Java or Dotnet. This is, frankly, a ridiculous statement. Firstly, Java and Dotnet provide guaranteed integrity of the application
Opps! It doesn't matter how much 'integrity' an application has if it is supported by an OS that is full of holes! And, on a per capita basis, the Linux 'user' mode has proven considerably more secure than the WinXX 'everyone run's as root' mode.
The problem is really the same one that has bedevilled Linux already - choice is good when you can make it (KDE or GNOME), not so good when it is made for you via a chain of dependencies..
This is really the most lame, bogus arugment I've heard against Linux since I began using it 5 years ago. BTW, KMail is my favorite email client. That is runs in KDE, which uses QT, is an asset, not the liability you make it out to be. By your standards, any program which runs on an OS and uses a function library is 'choice limiting' and therefore suspect. Lame indeed. You just shot down your favorite OS. Billy is going to slap your hands hard! I can sympathize with your confusion about 'choice', since Billy has taken that away from you a long time ago.
I purchased a new Sony VAIO on 12/29/96. It came with Win95 preinstalled. I used it primarily to write client software using a variety of GUI RAD tools, from VB to PB to VFP. Between 1/1/97 and 4/30/97 I had to reinstall Win95 FIVE times. This doesn't count the nearly countless crashes, data loss, reboots, the "Medi-Kit" action, etc, etc. I've had a computer in my home office since 1978, but never had I experienced the kinds of instability that Win95 brought to me. By May of 97 I was sick and tired of the crashes and decided to return to OS/2, which rarely crashed on me. I was at the book store looking for a good manual for OS/2 when I saw a book by Bill Bush entitled "Learn Linux in 24 hours". It had a RH 5.0 CD in the back of the book. I partitioned my HD and installed RH on the second partition. RH 5.0 never crashed on that Sony, which became a sold as the Rock of Gibralter. The only thing that changed was the OS. In the fall of 97 I switched to SuSE and used it till a couple of months ago, when I switched to Mandrake. SuSE was rock sold on that Sony, which became my wife's box in Feb of 2000, when I got a 1GHz Athlon. In the last five years I have had only a couple of crashes: one caused by an experimental C++ program that I wrote. Six months ago, with SuSE 7.3 still installed, we gave the Sony to a family doing home schooling. They've reported no crashed to date.
At work I use a W2K on one partition and Mandrake 8.2 - KDE 3.0.2 on the other partition. The W2K side crashes 4-5 times per week (six MSCEs can't keep it up!). The Mandrake (formely SuSE) side has never crashed. Same machine, same network... different OS.
Ford announced a change in their sales contract
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today, stiuplating that buyers could not disclose reasons for their SUV roll experiences without prior written approval from Ford Motor company.
Now, does that analogy make any sense to the MS loons astroturfing/. ??? You would rightly think Ford was being outrageous but you'd accept identical attitudes from MS. You're a strange breed alright, throughly brain washed to unstable, buggy software, poor performance, outrageous EULAs, and high prices and normal.... yet you demand these atrocities and want to inflict the rest of the world with them.
"I find Bollier's essay especially disappointing because I share his concerns about such issues as the ex post facto extension of intellectual property protections beyond those specified by law (in apparent violation of the U.S. Constitution, which authorizes Congress to secure "for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries" [emphasis added]) and the exploration of the possibilities of well-functioning property management systems for such important resources as airsheds and aquifers. Instead of serious analysis, however, Bollier offers an emotional jeremiad, made even less substantial by the use of meaningless but impressive sounding phrases such as "the corporate class," "colonize untouched natural resources and public life," and "textured appreciation." The important issues he addresses deserve better, more serious treatment. "
If Palmer really shared Bollier's concerns he wouldn't shoot the messenger, he would write a better message. But, Palmer's crocadile tears reveals his true position - corporate psychophant.
The 'private' property you refer to was actually part of the public property before Congressmen gave it to corporations who made sizeable 'campaign contributions' to them.
Wake up and smell the coffee before you end up working for a company that requires you to live in a company owned house and buy food from a company owned store and send your children to company schools. Oh,you will be kept in line by company 'police'. Does this sound familiar? It should. It described coal towns in West Virgina at the turn of the last century. The 'towns' were fenced in to keep the 'workers' from leaving. They couldn't leave because they owned the company money. The wages they paid weren't enough to cover rent, food, clothing and education supplied by the company. If you can't equate this with slavery your brain is in need of repair.
Re-read the article again but first take of those glasses Dr. Knee-Jerk sold you. Don't confuse an open mind with an empty one.
It makes me weep for my country and its exploitation by huge, multinational corporations with no cultural or national alligence, save to mammon. How many multi-million dollar castles does a CEO need? How many retirement incomes and payroll expenses does it take?
How else could your enforce a 'click-through' license, unless a wrapper were always added?
If the app + code was allowed to circulate freely the way GPL stuff does now, one wouldn't have to click-through unless all sources were wrapped with an install shield type of wrapper, or an rpm. That would add a pain-in-the-neck to the GPL process of liberating software, and it would give corporations fewer targets to shoot at in their battle against GPL software. And, when someone pealed the wrapper off and posted the GPL app anonymously then the click-through would be worthless.
No, they will use PostgreSQL. Why would it be 'sensible' to use a propriatary, closed source DB when something as powerful as PostgreSQL is available? It isn't. And, Open Source is required, otherwise some lizard will pull a "Gates" and start bribing others. Remember, in the early 80s, his fameous "pirate" letter to developers? That was the beginning of all the mess.
I expected a comment or two from the Microsoft psychophant gallery, or are you just another one of Bill's paid lackys masquerading as a "developer evangelist with Linux knowledge" that infest Linux sites like termites these days? If you believe that Gates is deversifying you have some serious explaining to do. Diversification is used to spread the risk. Wise investors will spread their funds among stocks of high and equal quality and value, not to stocks of lessor value and quality. Supposedly, no company is richer than Microsoft, or has had higher rates of returns for vested employees and stock holders. SO, the BIG question is: into which companies do you diversity? None have Microsoft's wealth, power, reserves and rates of returns. You wouldn't trade 1,000 shares of IBM for 100 shares from 10 companies that are not a good as Microsoft, and where can you find 10 companies that are supposedly as good as Microsoft? You can't. Gates and his cronies are dumping because they know something about Microsoft underpennings that others do not.
Also, Microsoft's lead attorney has quite. Are the rats beginning to leave a sinking ship?
-- why would anyone pay for something that they can get for free?
He, or actually his ego, died when the number of KDE installs eclipsed the number of Enlightenment installs, which happened when most Linux distros made KDE the default Desktop.
The Linux desktop success does not depend on how many "Grandmas and Grandpas" adopt it! Linux on the desktop is succeeding, and increasingly so, because corporations are switching to it enmass. And, as the stockmarket continues to tank, they'll be avoiding the unnecessary expense of License 6 and hardware upgrades by increasing their use of Linux through out their entire corporate structure. OpenOffice has been the catalyst that triggered the decisions around the globe to make the switch.
The paradigm shift is NOW in high gear! IT departments that were once staunch MS shops now openly criticize Microsoft and its various schemes to make money off their backs and at the expense of their security and privacy, and have begun deploying Linux in more than just server rooms.
While Microsoft's illegal monopoly activities, along with their theft of software and demographic data, continue unchecked because of a compliant Bush DOJ, so does their corporate greed and arrogance. People have had enough. They've seen through the PR and FUD. They've connected the dots leading from abusive EULAs to loss of supposedly 'unalienable' rights, and they don't like it.
The only thing remaining for the people to see is that the accounting principles used by Enron and WorldCom CEOs were not invented by Enron but borrowed from Microsoft. The NASDAQ will show even bigger losses when Microsoft is forced to subtract programmer payrolls from their profits and not hide them as future stock options. The following URL contains a prophetic analysis, made in 1999, of today's stockmarket situation.
http://www.billparish.com/msftfraudfacts.html
"Microsoft is granting excessive amounts of stock options that are allowing the company to understate its costs. You might ask yourself, what would happen to Microsoft's stock price if the public suddenly realized that they lost $10 billion in 1999 rather than earning the reported $7.8 billion? If 80 percent of its stock value or roughly $400 billion is the result of a pyramid scheme, one might also ask what kind of effect this could have on the retirement system. It is also important to note that this is a relatively new situation that did not occur before 1995. Microsoft has always been a highly valued stock and that might have been justified prior to 1995.
This situation is not about stock valuation, product quality or whether or not Microsoft has monopoly power in its markets. Nor is it part of a pro or anti-Microsoft movement. This situation is instead a shining example of financial fraud and corruption enabled by bad government policy. If not quickly and aggressively addressed, we will all be losers as credibility in our financial markets is destroyed.
Bill Gates has quitely been unloading MS stock at the rate of $500 million per month for several months, begining just before the Enron debacle became public -- talk about your insiders trading! Other MS executivers are probably doing the same.
Truely, the end of Microsoft is near, and the stockmarket decline will certainly hasten it!
There have been no significant 'adjustments' to the predicted life of the worlds pertroleum reserves since M. King Hubbert made his prediction more than 60 years ago. King's estimated US oil production would occur in 1970 but it actually occured in 1969. Test: When did Hubbert say the world production would peak?
See Fig. 4 for oil produced in the 48 states: http://www.dieoff.org/page191.htm which shows we are about 16 years away from our 1920 oil production levels... i.e. out of oil, considering how much we burn every year. And see Fig 13 for world production.
A SUSPICIOUS JUMP in reserves reported by six OPEC members added 300 billion barrels of oil in 1988 to official reserve tallies yet followed no major discovery of new fields. It was done for political reasons that had nothing to do with improved detection or recovery technology. So if any 'story' is changing it is the figures on total recoverable reserves, not Hubbert's prediction dates.
In addition, Hydrogen 'burns upward' NOT downward like carbon based fuels, so it is much safer -- i.e., no flashbacks.
Solar Power II towers are ready to replace oil NOW, if certain hands weren't clutched around the economic throat of the US. The Oil Barrons thought they had the cat by the short hairs in the early 70s. All the owners of the pressure vessels, the extraction technology, the mineral rights, etc.. were owned by the big oil companies. They were moving their assets from oil based reserves to Uranium based reserves, then the anti-nuke movement caught them by suprise. Fortunate for us. Now, Nebraska is going to be the Radiation Sickness Poster Child if the 5 state consortium begins 'storing' low level radioactive waste into what is essentially a sand dune setting on top of the Ogalalla Aquifer. This storage facility should keep radiation poisoning away from the general public residing downstream on the Missouri and Missippi rivers for...oh... say 6 months.
We can pipe H2 gas the way we do Propane. Liquid and Hydride forms will supply enough energy density for airplane propulsion (Or H2 could hydrogenate Carbon to form kerosine) especially if pure H2O is injected into the flame front to lower the combustion temperature to prevent oxides of Nitrogen from forming, and to increase the efficiency. Most homes could have their electric energy generated by H2 fuel cells.
The biggest advantage of all would be to eliminate the economic benefit of Oil to the rogue states in the Mid East. As far as a Carbon source, we have six times more Carbon in the form of Coal, than the Arabs have Carbon in the form of Oil. We can conitnue to use Carbon for plastics, medicines, sythetics, etc.... We just should not waste it by burning it to light up the night-time sky.
Microsoft's real reason for keeping their code secret is to pevent folks from learning how much of their code has been pirated from others. The lawyer fees alone from resulting IP lawsuites would eat up Microsoft's $50 Billion cash reserve in no time flat.
You obviously don't use recent releases of the major distros.
For example: SuSE has "YaST Online Update" (YOU) which works great! One click gets all the latest patches and updates. If that's too much work then you are extremely lazy, dumb or a quadruple amputee.
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Which is exactly why MS boxes get hammered over and over and over, or they act as platforms for DoS attacks over and over and over.
It's not the drunk's fault, someone keeps putting curves in the road.
You apparently failed to read the article. It concerns weakness in Win API calls, like WM_TIMER, for example, that gives an untrusted user the ability to achive LocalSystem priviledges. An 'untrusted' user is a virus or worm. As a WinXX user you should be familiar with them. ;-) Additionally, since anit-virus programs have to run with registry access they offer the 'untrusted' user/virus access to LocalSystem and there is nothing the owner of the box running WinXX can do about it except repeat the MS Mantra: reboot, rebuild, reinstall.
I've been using MoneyDance for over two years. It's written in Java (swing) and is a very nice app.
And if Mono / DotGNU does make progress, I'm betting they get sued for patent infringement.
I wouldn't doubt that. In fact, De Icaza is wasting a lot of time and effort on MONO for that very reason. That's why I think MONO is a 'honeypot' designed to trap Linux coder bees, removing them from serious projects.
User mode Linux 'superior' to Java or Dotnet. This is, frankly, a ridiculous statement. Firstly, Java and Dotnet provide guaranteed integrity of the application
Opps! It doesn't matter how much 'integrity' an application has if it is supported by an OS that is full of holes! And, on a per capita basis, the Linux 'user' mode has proven considerably more secure than the WinXX 'everyone run's as root' mode.
The problem is really the same one that has bedevilled Linux already - choice is good when you can make it (KDE or GNOME), not so good when it is made for you via a chain of dependencies..
This is really the most lame, bogus arugment I've heard against Linux since I began using it 5 years ago. BTW, KMail is my favorite email client. That is runs in KDE, which uses QT, is an asset, not the liability you make it out to be. By your standards, any program which runs on an OS and uses a function library is 'choice limiting' and therefore suspect. Lame indeed. You just shot down your favorite OS. Billy is going to slap your hands hard! I can sympathize with your confusion about 'choice', since Billy has taken that away from you a long time ago.
I purchased a new Sony VAIO on 12/29/96. It came with Win95 preinstalled. I used it primarily to write client software using a variety of GUI RAD tools, from VB to PB to VFP. Between 1/1/97 and 4/30/97 I had to reinstall Win95 FIVE times. This doesn't count the nearly countless crashes, data loss, reboots, the "Medi-Kit" action, etc, etc. I've had a computer in my home office since 1978, but never had I experienced the kinds of instability that Win95 brought to me. By May of 97 I was sick and tired of the crashes and decided to return to OS/2, which rarely crashed on me. I was at the book store looking for a good manual for OS/2 when I saw a book by Bill Bush entitled "Learn Linux in 24 hours". It had a RH 5.0 CD in the back of the book. I partitioned my HD and installed RH on the second partition. RH 5.0 never crashed on that Sony, which became a sold as the Rock of Gibralter. The only thing that changed was the OS. In the fall of 97 I switched to SuSE and used it till a couple of months ago, when I switched to Mandrake. SuSE was rock sold on that Sony, which became my wife's box in Feb of 2000, when I got a 1GHz Athlon. In the last five years I have had only a couple of crashes: one caused by an experimental C++ program that I wrote. Six months ago, with SuSE 7.3 still installed, we gave the Sony to a family doing home schooling. They've reported no crashed to date.
At work I use a W2K on one partition and Mandrake 8.2 - KDE 3.0.2 on the other partition. The W2K side crashes 4-5 times per week (six MSCEs can't keep it up!). The Mandrake (formely SuSE) side has never crashed. Same machine, same network ... different OS.
Now, does that analogy make any sense to the MS loons astroturfing /. ??? You would rightly think Ford was being outrageous but you'd accept identical attitudes from MS. You're a strange breed alright, throughly brain washed to unstable, buggy software, poor performance, outrageous EULAs, and high prices and normal.... yet you demand these atrocities and want to inflict the rest of the world with them.
If Palmer really shared Bollier's concerns he wouldn't shoot the messenger, he would write a better message. But, Palmer's crocadile tears reveals his true position - corporate psychophant.
Wake up and smell the coffee before you end up working for a company that requires you to live in a company owned house and buy food from a company owned store and send your children to company schools. Oh,you will be kept in line by company 'police'. Does this sound familiar? It should. It described coal towns in West Virgina at the turn of the last century. The 'towns' were fenced in to keep the 'workers' from leaving. They couldn't leave because they owned the company money. The wages they paid weren't enough to cover rent, food, clothing and education supplied by the company. If you can't equate this with slavery your brain is in need of repair.
Re-read the article again but first take of those glasses Dr. Knee-Jerk sold you. Don't confuse an open mind with an empty one.
No. The idea is let's go arrest some CEOs who have mugged us, with the aid and abetment of some Congressmen.
It makes me weep for my country and its exploitation by huge, multinational corporations with no cultural or national alligence, save to mammon. How many multi-million dollar castles does a CEO need? How many retirement incomes and payroll expenses does it take?
If the app + code was allowed to circulate freely the way GPL stuff does now, one wouldn't have to click-through unless all sources were wrapped with an install shield type of wrapper, or an rpm. That would add a pain-in-the-neck to the GPL process of liberating software, and it would give corporations fewer targets to shoot at in their battle against GPL software. And, when someone pealed the wrapper off and posted the GPL app anonymously then the click-through would be worthless.
Seems like more than a few to me.
store my MoneyDance data on, and to make recovery diskettes (which I have never had to use.)
What about the files that ibiblo holds the copyright to? Anyone offer money to take them private? Or to take the site private?
No, they will use PostgreSQL. Why would it be 'sensible' to use a propriatary, closed source DB when something as powerful as PostgreSQL is available? It isn't. And, Open Source is required, otherwise some lizard will pull a "Gates" and start bribing others. Remember, in the early 80s, his fameous "pirate" letter to developers? That was the beginning of all the mess.
Perhaps you should study math, specifically exponential growth. Your economic scenerio is doomed to failure.
You must work for Microsoft. Enjoy getting paid with Stock?
The way Chicago needed Al Capone? Or the world needs Saddam Hussein?
Surely you jest. The solution to greed and corruption cannot be more greed and corruption.
I expected a comment or two from the Microsoft psychophant gallery, or are you just another one of Bill's paid lackys masquerading as a "developer evangelist with Linux knowledge" that infest Linux sites like termites these days?
If you believe that Gates is deversifying you have some serious explaining to do. Diversification is used to spread the risk. Wise investors will spread their funds among stocks of high and equal quality and value, not to stocks of lessor value and quality. Supposedly, no company is richer than Microsoft, or has had higher rates of returns for vested employees and stock holders. SO, the BIG question is: into which companies do you diversity? None have Microsoft's wealth, power, reserves and rates of returns. You wouldn't trade 1,000 shares of IBM for 100 shares from 10 companies that are not a good as Microsoft, and where can you find 10 companies that are supposedly as good as Microsoft? You can't. Gates and his cronies are dumping because they know something about Microsoft underpennings that others do not.
Also, Microsoft's lead attorney has quite. Are the rats beginning to leave a sinking ship?
-- why would anyone pay for something that they can get for free?
The Linux desktop success does not depend on how many "Grandmas and Grandpas" adopt it! Linux on the desktop is succeeding, and increasingly so, because corporations are switching to it enmass. And, as the stockmarket continues to tank, they'll be avoiding the unnecessary expense of License 6 and hardware upgrades by increasing their use of Linux through out their entire corporate structure. OpenOffice has been the catalyst that triggered the decisions around the globe to make the switch.
The paradigm shift is NOW in high gear! IT departments that were once staunch MS shops now openly criticize Microsoft and its various schemes to make money off their backs and at the expense of their security and privacy, and have begun deploying Linux in more than just server rooms.
While Microsoft's illegal monopoly activities, along with their theft of software and demographic data, continue unchecked because of a compliant Bush DOJ, so does their corporate greed and arrogance. People have had enough. They've seen through the PR and FUD. They've connected the dots leading from abusive EULAs to loss of supposedly 'unalienable' rights, and they don't like it.
The only thing remaining for the people to see is that the accounting principles used by Enron and WorldCom CEOs were not invented by Enron but borrowed from Microsoft. The NASDAQ will show even bigger losses when Microsoft is forced to subtract programmer payrolls from their profits and not hide them as future stock options. The following URL contains a prophetic analysis, made in 1999, of today's stockmarket situation.
http://www.billparish.com/msftfraudfacts.html
"Microsoft is granting excessive amounts of stock options that are allowing the company to understate its costs. You might ask yourself, what would happen to Microsoft's stock price if the public suddenly realized that they lost $10 billion in 1999 rather than earning the reported $7.8 billion? If 80 percent of its stock value or roughly $400 billion is the result of a pyramid scheme, one might also ask what kind of effect this could have on the retirement system. It is also important to note that this is a relatively new situation that did not occur before 1995. Microsoft has always been a highly valued stock and that might have been justified prior to 1995.
This situation is not about stock valuation, product quality or whether or not Microsoft has monopoly power in its markets. Nor is it part of a pro or anti-Microsoft movement. This situation is instead a shining example of financial fraud and corruption enabled by bad government policy. If not quickly and aggressively addressed, we will all be losers as credibility in our financial markets is destroyed.
Bill Gates has quitely been unloading MS stock at the rate of $500 million per month for several months, begining just before the Enron debacle became public -- talk about your insiders trading! Other MS executivers are probably doing the same.
Truely, the end of Microsoft is near, and the stockmarket decline will certainly hasten it!
Fantastic Visual FoxPro watering hole.
Also has forums for Linux, VB, Java, Oracle, and several more.
Bull!
There have been no significant 'adjustments' to the predicted life of the worlds pertroleum reserves since M. King Hubbert made his prediction more than 60 years ago. King's estimated US oil production would occur in 1970 but it actually occured in 1969. Test: When did Hubbert say the world production would peak?
See Fig. 4 for oil produced in the 48 states: http://www.dieoff.org/page191.htm which shows we are about 16 years away from our 1920 oil production levels... i.e. out of oil, considering how much we burn every year. And see Fig 13 for world production.
A SUSPICIOUS JUMP in reserves reported by six OPEC members added 300 billion barrels of oil in 1988 to official reserve tallies yet followed no major discovery of new fields. It was done for political reasons that had nothing to do with improved detection or recovery technology. So if any 'story' is changing it is the figures on total recoverable reserves, not Hubbert's prediction dates.
In addition, Hydrogen 'burns upward' NOT downward like carbon based fuels, so it is much safer -- i.e., no flashbacks.
...oh... say 6 months.
Solar Power II towers are ready to replace oil NOW, if certain hands weren't clutched around the economic throat of the US. The Oil Barrons thought they had the cat by the short hairs in the early 70s. All the owners of the pressure vessels, the extraction technology, the mineral rights, etc.. were owned by the big oil companies. They were moving their assets from oil based reserves to Uranium based reserves, then the anti-nuke movement caught them by suprise. Fortunate for us. Now, Nebraska is going to be the Radiation Sickness Poster Child if the 5 state consortium begins 'storing' low level radioactive waste into what is essentially a sand dune setting on top of the Ogalalla Aquifer. This storage facility should keep radiation poisoning away from the general public residing downstream on the Missouri and Missippi rivers for
We can pipe H2 gas the way we do Propane. Liquid and Hydride forms will supply enough energy density for airplane propulsion (Or H2 could hydrogenate Carbon to form kerosine) especially if pure H2O is injected into the flame front to lower the combustion temperature to prevent oxides of Nitrogen from forming, and to increase the efficiency. Most homes could have their electric energy generated by H2 fuel cells.
The biggest advantage of all would be to eliminate the economic benefit of Oil to the rogue states in the Mid East. As far as a Carbon source, we have six times more Carbon in the form of Coal, than the Arabs have Carbon in the form of Oil. We can conitnue to use Carbon for plastics, medicines, sythetics, etc.... We just should not waste it by burning it to light up the night-time sky.
because we'll be out of oil the way our consumption is growing.
http://www.dieoff.org/
Exactly right.
Microsoft's real reason for keeping their code secret is to pevent folks from learning how much of their code has been pirated from others. The lawyer fees alone from resulting IP lawsuites would eat up Microsoft's $50 Billion cash reserve in no time flat.
You obviously don't use recent releases of the major distros.
For example: SuSE has "YaST Online Update" (YOU) which works great! One click gets all the latest patches and updates. If that's too much work then you are extremely lazy, dumb or a quadruple amputee.