Longhorn development is not going well. WinXX users are migrating to Linux in ever increasing numbers. Microsoft has nothing to sell them that they don't already own, except for higher License 6 fees, so what to do? The old vaporware trick. It keeps the deer frozen in the headlights until the truck arrives to run them over. The idea is, of course, to keep Windows users from jumping ship to Linux and OpenOffice with the promise that Microsoft will be converting its major Office apps to Linux, perhaps even a MicrosoftXL OS. (Extended Linux - propriatary and expensive bits added.)
Personally, I believe it just a ploy. Hell will freeze over first.
all patents and copyrights they own must be placed under the GPL
Owners and Officers must not personally benefit from their own misdeeds. All excess personal property of all owners and Officers will be confiscated and sold at auction. Don Lay would be releived of 6 of his 7 mansions.
NOVA presented a program several years ago called "Do Scientists Cheat?". In it, the NSF study mentioned reported that 48% of the reports published had false or misleading data. I.E., the data was cooked in some way.
However, there are lots of examples of bad science, the most prominent being "Cold Fusion". A similar work was presented by Fran De Aquino, a scientist who has worked at Las Alamos, and has "published" an experiment on the Internet which supposedly demonstrated an anti-gravity device. http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/ Here is a popularization of his idea: http://members.aol.com/jnaudin509/systemg/ No one has been able to reproduce his results.
Then we have the two French brothers recently mentioned on/.
I ran my consulting business under the same premis for 15 years. The contract they signed with me included, among other features, their right to the source code with the restriction that they could not use it as the basis for competition against me. Terms included where a conflict could be ajudicated, the amount of damages, etc...
At last, someone is telling it like it is. WinXX itself is a virus and being deployed on a box is prima facia evidence the box is infested!
Not only does MS 'phone home' with your private information, it is arrogant in the extreme to declare in its EULAs that they, NOT you, should determine what should or should not be on your own PC and IF you want to patch a security hole in media player 6.4 you have to agree to such nonsense.
It's no wonder WinXX users are abandoning MS emass in favor of true security and freedom from oppressive EULAs and license fees.
I am 61 and I've been hammering the keyboard since grad school in 1968 and have been programming professionally since 1980. I have never had problems with my wrists or fingers, except that I type faster than I ever have, and sometimes my mind thinks one thing and my fingers type (accurately) another, usually because I think, while I type, in terms of words and phrases, not letters.
About 10-12 years ago I had the symptoms of a heart attack while setting at the keyboard: numbing jaw and left arm, pain in the chest, and a clammy feeling with mild persperation. Alarmed I rushed to the doctor, who put me on a treadmill and gave my heart a clean bill of health. His next question was "do you spend a lot of time using a computer keyboard?" "Yes, why?" "Adjust the height of your chair & keyboard so you are not using your shoulder muscles to keep your arms elevated." Problem solved.
And resonable costs and high quality of Distros like Mandrake and software like KDE, KWinTV, Gimp, OpenOffice, etc. are the reasons why I am staying away.
One just has to purchase hardware prudently, to avoid hard-wired sharing or IRQs, WinPeripherals, etc...
Fair is fair. They want the profits from testing for the gene, they should pay the costs if the gene ends up causing cancer in a patient.
What is really outrageous is that these jerks learned about the gene and how to test for it using PUBLIC tax monies, then they split into 'private' industry, file patents and start gouging - exploiting. This couldn't happen if some congressional pockets weren't being lined in the first place.
You obviously are not a power user, so what are you complaining about? Cumbersome? Are you telling us you don't know how to use the 'expert' mode of the install routine, or are you telling us you don't know how to open an xterm and remove KDE, GNOME or what ever and fire up a lighter desktop?
I'm not a RH user and I am certain you can find another distro more to your liking. There is always Gentoo, or Debian or even LinuxFromScratch if you as good in your actions as you feel you are in your mind.
Microsoft won't be as "friendly" as McVOY in 'preventing competition', but they won't show their claws until the MONO work is essentially done and lots of Linux coders have followed the pied pipper Icaza into the.NET honeypot. THEN they will release a modified EULA preventing the use of.NET or.NET compatible tools in conjuction with GPL software projects of any kind. They have already done this with a certain SDK.
That's why I won't be using MONO or.NET. I also downloaded BitKeeper, but before I read the entire license, including the non-compete stuff. After I read it I deleted the packaged.
I'm still looking around for a CVS replacement. I will look at Subversion but does anyone know of an FTP for Arch? The Arch site is down permenantly.
A side note: Judging from the number and flavor of posts on this and other topics that diss the GPL and Open Souce, and extoll the virtues of propriatary code and restrictive EULAs, it seems to me that the number of WinXX users are consistantly exceeding the number of Linux users on Slasdot. Anyone else notice this?
The whole point of using a tool is to get a job done. If I need to hammer a nail, I could go and use a free rock to do the job, or I could go to a store and buy a hammer. Both will do the job, but one is better suited to do that job. It doesn't make me evil if I buy a proprietary solution.
It's easy to see you come from a WinXX background and are throughly indoctrinated in accepting the loss of your rights.
You go to the store and buy your hammer. What you may or may not have noticed is a EULA posted somewhere in the store, not necessarily easy to find or view but subject to change without notification, that prohibits you from using that hammer to build a store which sells competing hammers.
What is at stake here is the Open Source movement itself -- the idea that someone should NOT be able to exploit the work of prior coders without passing on the work and yours to subsequent coders. Bill Gates didn't mind using the BSD version of FTP, and other BSD software, because he didn't have share his improvements, if any, nor will he share the revenues. The BSD coders have the right to allow themselves to be exploited but such subserviance is not in the spirit of the Open Source movement, which has brought you the Linux OS and tons of great software including the source!
The Open Source movement can be compared to the ethical paradigm that used to govern the transmission of scientific knowledge. Unfortunately for us the many members of the scientific community accpet public funds to develop knowledge and then form companies that patent the knowledge they acquired using public funds, with our own governments approval. Sad. The public pays twice. Once for discovery, then through the nose for access.
If Redhat is to take this on, then other distributions of Linux will suffer due to their newfound 'inconsistency', and while this may be a reasonable approach for Redhat, it is something to be avoided from the perspective of the Redhat {sic -KDE?] and Gnome projects since their software is provided with virtually all Linux distributions so in order to gain the greatest market penetration they should be acting in support of all distributions. I'm certain these rebutals will be ariving soon and I look forward to reading them.
IF RedHat were the leading Linux distro what you say may be true. But, Mandrake has been leading RH in downloads and installations for a long time now, so RH doesn't represent the biggest installed base.
Also, KDE holds the lion's share of the Linux desktop market. The last percentage I recall reading was over 80%. While there are many more apps written for KDE than for GNOME, distros like Mandrake make both dekstops runnable so those who likes GNOME can still run a lot of KDE apps, and visa-versa.
In my opinion RH is doing this to standarize the dekstop in an attempt to appeal to the corporate market, so that their IT departments only have to support 'one' desktop. The same effect is being achieved by corporations who have already adopted LInux, have standardized on KDE and have policies about which other apps/themes/screensavers can appear on the KDE desktop. JLK
I wonder how many of those "350 infected" Apache installations were actually Symantec development boxes? The way Symantec has been yelling fire, compared to the reality of the 'flames' they exhibit as evidence, suggests false advertising and they should be investigated by the FTC.
There are approximately 40 Linux 'viruses' listed on Symantec's web site. Examining each one reveals that the vast majority have been 'seen in the wild' on less that 50 boxes. And, except for Bliss and Lion, in order to be successful most of the viruses listed by Symantec need the cooperation of a user willing to run them as root. I reviewed all of Symantec's Linux 'viruses' in the following msg on alt.os.liunx.mandraie: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alt.os.linux.m an drake+Jerry+Kreps+viruses&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm= xQuc9.87365%2427.1562343%40twister.rdc-kc.rr.com&r num=3
This begs the question of how, out of millions of websites, so many 'viruses' end up at Symatec's labs? Some 'viruses' are listed as being on only a couple of boxes. Having them end up at Symantec is truely amazing and suggests that for most of the viruses either their first infection was a very poorly protected box run by a very expert Linux user able to determine what happened and immediately send a copy to Symantec (a contradiction), or they are being manufactured by Symantec coders. One only hopes that Symantec isn't releasing them into the wild to garner business.
I use the word Absurd for two reasons:
First, in the astronomically unlikely event that you have an SSL infection then patch Apache-SSL, don't leave the vulnerable version in place as it is and install a propriatary ($$$) bug 'vaccine'. This approach is stupid, to say the least. The Apache coders will generate a patch long before Symantec can 'capture' a speciman, reverse engineer it and generate a vaccine. The Apache patch it will be free for the download. In fact, most distros like Mandrake 8.2, have automatic patching/updating maintenance programs that can fix a defective app or library automatically and in seconds once the patch is posted.
Secondly, since Slashdot is now surfed by more WinXX users than Linux users the WinXX mentality seems to be expressed in a majority of postings to Slashdot. That 'mentality' is the assumption that if 'it' was a problem with WinXX 'it' must naturally be a problem with Linux.
Linux IS NOT plagued by Microsoft's problems, microsurfties, especially in the areas of SECURITY AND STABILITY. REALIZE THIS!
Look at the problem Symantec is encountering trying to generate a believable 'Linux has viruses' mindset in a vain attempt to protect their business model. Only the Microsurfties are falling for it. And, after they buy the 'vaccine' then gradually learn it isn't necessary they will feel foolish.
While some Linux newbies fresh from WinXX bondage may stupidly or lazily run as root, most do not. That is the first thing a Linux newbie learns!
I've been running Linux for five years. Exclusively for three years. I have been connected 24/7/365, except for thunderstorms. I have surfted countless websites, received tens of thousands of emails, downloaded and installed many iso sets and hundreds of tarred and rpm'd applications using RH, then SuSE and now Mandrake. While I have found hundreds of WinXX viruses in my mail box, and even fired SirCam to see what it does on a Linux system (nothing), I have yet to receive a single Linux virus, nor have I been hacked.
Viruses don't concern me, but hacking does. That's why I try to keep my box security as high as is reasonable for my circumstances: tight enough to deter the average script kiddie or cracker, but not so tight as to consume a lot of my time keeping it current up to the second. After all, professional crackers won't waste their time rooting my box, there is not enough karma or cash in doing so. What if I do get hacked? I regularly backup my data. The system and software can be reinstalled from pristine sources onto a freshly formatted drive in a couple of hours. Why sweat the small stuff... and a Linux virus is certainly small stuff.
They'll have to pay for it all later, if not sooner. Microsoft's new game plan to beat Open Source GPL software is apparently a page from the Furniture Salesman's Manual. Those ads that make it seems as if the 'customer' is getting something for for very little, or nothing at all.
But, 'next year' comes around and the interest charges include those prior months and the high monthly bills start rolling in.
I purchased a Princess phone for the kitchen at a "Sale" advertized by AT&T at their phone center. I had it for ten years. When I called to cancel my phone service because I was moving the clerk reminded me to return the Princess phone. I was stunned. I told her I payed $30 for it at a phone sale. She said "check the light gray print on the back side of your bill of sale." In print so light you could barely read it was the word 'lease', even though the front was 'sales' invoice. This lawsuite is punishment for that kind of deceptive business practice. They got their phone back. Every component was taken apart and reduced to its minimum parts, all were put into the box, except for the screws and nuts, throughly shaken, and the box was taken to the company, sealed up. I left with my refund, they had "their" phone.
If BeOS had demanded the same from Dell no one would blink. People would question Dell's choice, shareholders might scream and that's all.
Hardly. Dell would have laughed the BeOS reps right out the door. They can't do that with Microsoft because of the Microsoft monopoly. Dell wants to sell computers. Computers need an OS installed because 95% of all computer users are too stupid to install an OS themselves. When most folks started using a computer it Windows on it. They think Windows is another name for 'computer'. If Dell didn't offer Windows they wouldn't sell their computers.
Or so they think. WalMart is testing this hypothesis now.
"Be sure you know what it is you're aruing about, next time."
Be sure you know what your metaphore applies to next time.
The Sherman-Clayton Anti-trust act states that it is illegal for you to sell me Product A and then require that I buy Product B from a 3rd party when that Product B is not essential to the operation of the Product A, because ther are more than one types of Product B on the market. To do so is a restraint of free trade and constitutes a monoploy. That is the issue that the DOJ struggled so long and hard to avoid in their prosecution of MS. The 'bundleing' issue was a bungling issue. The DOJ new what they were doing and MS's action by this email is proof of that.
Not upholding the terms of the contract is outright fraud.
You have a short memory. About four years ago Microsoft was sued because it refused to honor the part of it's EULA about returning unopened WinXX shrinkwraps for a refund. The judge in the case ruled that since the Microsoft didn't sell the OS to the customer it was not liable. Dell was released because it didn't write the OS.
Didn't Microsoft make the similar claims/predictions about their hailstorm-passport technology four years ago? They've done an excellent job of keeping the true purpose and identity of them so secret, including the use of frequent name changes, that even their PR department is spouting two completely different descriptions of.NET!
At one thing is consistant, "WildBeast" --- for 1,183 trolls you have been a consistant supporter of less freedom for consumers and more infringement by Microsoft. I've come to the conclusion that you live in Redmond and work on the MS campus.
I've used Forth and have programmed an HP calculator. The Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) used by the HP is only similar to Forth. The HP can be mimicked by a LIFO stack and a single loop surrounding a series of case statements that parse the operators operators. The operators indicate how many operands are replaced by the result.
The book "Starting Forth", by Lee Brodie, is still the best introduction to that wonderful language. It is humerous too! Forth is a bottom up threaded language. You define some words. You combine some of them to define other words. Eventually you have a single word which is your entire application. Only assembler is faster than Forth.
Organisms blown up up from ocean foam, waterfall foam, in smoke from various fires have risen to the top of the atmosphere and been swept into space by solar wind and magnetic influences for ages. These dessicated organisms are blown away from the Earth by the solar wind and are carried to the outter planets. Drawn by those planets gravities the organisms filter down throught the atmosphere and land on the planet surfaces. If life is possible on those bodies organisms have already innoculated them.
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So if someone figures out a major Linux exploit (which is about as likely as a MS exploit, contrary to the propaganda machine around here),...
Actually, on a pro-rated basis (exploits vs platform count), MS exploits occur at a rate 9 times more frequently than Linux exploits. Linux exploits make news because of their relative rarity. Remember the 'cross platform' jpg bug that was supposed to be a big threat to Linux? That was laughable, but it made news (or was hyped by anti-virus companies) because of the possibility that it would infect a Linux platform. Put another way, Linux infections would have to occure nine times more frequently than to do to reach the same relative level of infections achieved by WinXX platforms.
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Personally, I believe it just a ploy. Hell will freeze over first.
Include also the stipulations that
NOVA presented a program several years ago called "Do Scientists Cheat?". In it, the NSF study mentioned reported that 48% of the reports published had false or misleading data. I.E., the data was cooked in some way.
However, there are lots of examples of bad science, the most prominent being "Cold Fusion". A similar work was presented by Fran De Aquino, a scientist who has worked at Las Alamos, and has "published" an experiment on the Internet which supposedly demonstrated an anti-gravity device. http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/
Here is a popularization of his idea: http://members.aol.com/jnaudin509/systemg/
No one has been able to reproduce his results.
Then we have the two French brothers recently mentioned on
Science is in such disarray right now.
I ran my consulting business under the same premis for 15 years. The contract they signed with me included, among other features, their right to the source code with the restriction that they could not use it as the basis for competition against me. Terms included where a conflict could be ajudicated, the amount of damages, etc...
Not only does MS 'phone home' with your private information, it is arrogant in the extreme to declare in its EULAs that they, NOT you, should determine what should or should not be on your own PC and IF you want to patch a security hole in media player 6.4 you have to agree to such nonsense.
It's no wonder WinXX users are abandoning MS emass in favor of true security and freedom from oppressive EULAs and license fees.
I am 61 and I've been hammering the keyboard since grad school in 1968 and have been programming professionally since 1980. I have never had problems with my wrists or fingers, except that I type faster than I ever have, and sometimes my mind thinks one thing and my fingers type (accurately) another, usually because I think, while I type, in terms of words and phrases, not letters.
About 10-12 years ago I had the symptoms of a heart attack while setting at the keyboard: numbing jaw and left arm, pain in the chest, and a clammy feeling with mild persperation. Alarmed I rushed to the doctor, who put me on a treadmill and gave my heart a clean bill of health. His next question was "do you spend a lot of time using a computer keyboard?" "Yes, why?" "Adjust the height of your chair & keyboard so you are not using your shoulder muscles to keep your arms elevated." Problem solved.
One just has to purchase hardware prudently, to avoid hard-wired sharing or IRQs, WinPeripherals, etc...
cancer.
Fair is fair. They want the profits from testing for the gene, they should pay the costs if the gene ends up causing cancer in a patient.
What is really outrageous is that these jerks learned about the gene and how to test for it using PUBLIC tax monies, then they split into 'private' industry, file patents and start gouging - exploiting. This couldn't happen if some congressional pockets weren't being lined in the first place.
I'm not a RH user and I am certain you can find another distro more to your liking. There is always Gentoo, or Debian or even LinuxFromScratch if you as good in your actions as you feel you are in your mind.
That's why I won't be using MONO or
I'm still looking around for a CVS replacement. I will look at Subversion but does anyone know of an FTP for Arch? The Arch site is down permenantly.
A side note: Judging from the number and flavor of posts on this and other topics that diss the GPL and Open Souce, and extoll the virtues of propriatary code and restrictive EULAs, it seems to me that the number of WinXX users are consistantly exceeding the number of Linux users on Slasdot. Anyone else notice this?
It's easy to see you come from a WinXX background and are throughly indoctrinated in accepting the loss of your rights.
You go to the store and buy your hammer. What you may or may not have noticed is a EULA posted somewhere in the store, not necessarily easy to find or view but subject to change without notification, that prohibits you from using that hammer to build a store which sells competing hammers.
What is at stake here is the Open Source movement itself -- the idea that someone should NOT be able to exploit the work of prior coders without passing on the work and yours to subsequent coders. Bill Gates didn't mind using the BSD version of FTP, and other BSD software, because he didn't have share his improvements, if any, nor will he share the revenues. The BSD coders have the right to allow themselves to be exploited but such subserviance is not in the spirit of the Open Source movement, which has brought you the Linux OS and tons of great software including the source!
The Open Source movement can be compared to the ethical paradigm that used to govern the transmission of scientific knowledge. Unfortunately for us the many members of the scientific community accpet public funds to develop knowledge and then form companies that patent the knowledge they acquired using public funds, with our own governments approval. Sad. The public pays twice. Once for discovery, then through the nose for access.
IF RedHat were the leading Linux distro what you say may be true. But, Mandrake has been leading RH in downloads and installations for a long time now, so RH doesn't represent the biggest installed base.
Also, KDE holds the lion's share of the Linux desktop market. The last percentage I recall reading was over 80%. While there are many more apps written for KDE than for GNOME, distros like Mandrake make both dekstops runnable so those who likes GNOME can still run a lot of KDE apps, and visa-versa.
In my opinion RH is doing this to standarize the dekstop in an attempt to appeal to the corporate market, so that their IT departments only have to support 'one' desktop. The same effect is being achieved by corporations who have already adopted LInux, have standardized on KDE and have policies about which other apps/themes/screensavers can appear on the KDE desktop.
JLK
I wonder how many of those "350 infected" Apache installations were actually Symantec development boxes? The way Symantec has been yelling fire, compared to the reality of the 'flames' they exhibit as evidence, suggests false advertising and they should be investigated by the FTC.
m an drake+Jerry+Kreps+viruses&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm= xQuc9.87365%2427.1562343%40twister.rdc-kc.rr.com&r num=3
There are approximately 40 Linux 'viruses' listed on Symantec's web site. Examining each one reveals that the vast majority have been 'seen in the wild' on less that 50 boxes. And, except for Bliss and Lion, in order to be successful most of the viruses listed by Symantec need the cooperation of a user willing to run them as root. I reviewed all of Symantec's Linux 'viruses' in the following msg on alt.os.liunx.mandraie:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alt.os.linux.
This begs the question of how, out of millions of websites, so many 'viruses' end up at Symatec's labs? Some 'viruses' are listed as being on only a couple of boxes. Having them end up at Symantec is truely amazing and suggests that for most of the viruses either their first infection was a very poorly protected box run by a very expert Linux user able to determine what happened and immediately send a copy to Symantec (a contradiction), or they are being manufactured by Symantec coders. One only hopes that Symantec isn't releasing them into the wild to garner business.
I use the word Absurd for two reasons:
First, in the astronomically unlikely event that you have an SSL infection then patch Apache-SSL, don't leave the vulnerable version in place as it is and install a propriatary ($$$) bug 'vaccine'. This approach is stupid, to say the least. The Apache coders will generate a patch long before Symantec can 'capture' a speciman, reverse engineer it and generate a vaccine. The Apache patch it will be free for the download. In fact, most distros like Mandrake 8.2, have automatic patching/updating maintenance programs that can fix a defective app or library automatically and in seconds once the patch is posted.
Secondly, since Slashdot is now surfed by more WinXX users than Linux users the WinXX mentality seems to be expressed in a majority of postings to Slashdot. That 'mentality' is the assumption that if 'it' was a problem with WinXX 'it' must naturally be a problem with Linux.
Linux IS NOT plagued by Microsoft's problems, microsurfties, especially in the areas of SECURITY AND STABILITY. REALIZE THIS!
Look at the problem Symantec is encountering trying to generate a believable 'Linux has viruses' mindset in a vain attempt to protect their business model. Only the Microsurfties are falling for it. And, after they buy the 'vaccine' then gradually learn it isn't necessary they will feel foolish.
While some Linux newbies fresh from WinXX bondage may stupidly or lazily run as root, most do not. That is the first thing a Linux newbie learns!
I've been running Linux for five years. Exclusively for three years. I have been connected 24/7/365, except for thunderstorms. I have surfted countless websites, received tens of thousands of emails, downloaded and installed many iso sets and hundreds of tarred and rpm'd applications using RH, then SuSE and now Mandrake. While I have found hundreds of WinXX viruses in my mail box, and even fired SirCam to see what it does on a Linux system (nothing), I have yet to receive a single Linux virus, nor have I been hacked.
Viruses don't concern me, but hacking does. That's why I try to keep my box security as high as is reasonable for my circumstances: tight enough to deter the average script kiddie or cracker, but not so tight as to consume a lot of my time keeping it current up to the second. After all, professional crackers won't waste their time rooting my box, there is not enough karma or cash in doing so. What if I do get hacked? I regularly backup my data. The system and software can be reinstalled from pristine sources onto a freshly formatted drive in a couple of hours. Why sweat the small stuff... and a Linux virus is certainly small stuff.
Information wants to be free. So do bits.
But, 'next year' comes around and the interest charges include those prior months and the high monthly bills start rolling in.
Some people live but some people never learn.
I purchased a Princess phone for the kitchen at a "Sale" advertized by AT&T at their phone center. I had it for ten years. When I called to cancel my phone service because I was moving the clerk reminded me to return the Princess phone. I was stunned. I told her I payed $30 for it at a phone sale. She said "check the light gray print on the back side of your bill of sale." In print so light you could barely read it was the word 'lease', even though the front was 'sales' invoice. This lawsuite is punishment for that kind of deceptive business practice. They got their phone back. Every component was taken apart and reduced to its minimum parts, all were put into the box, except for the screws and nuts, throughly shaken, and the box was taken to the company, sealed up. I left with my refund, they had "their" phone.
Hardly. Dell would have laughed the BeOS reps right out the door. They can't do that with Microsoft because of the Microsoft monopoly. Dell wants to sell computers. Computers need an OS installed because 95% of all computer users are too stupid to install an OS themselves. When most folks started using a computer it Windows on it. They think Windows is another name for 'computer'. If Dell didn't offer Windows they wouldn't sell their computers.
Or so they think. WalMart is testing this hypothesis now.
I never would have believed there existed anyone who was dim enough to advance this arugment... you proved me wrong.
Be sure you know what your metaphore applies to next time.
The Sherman-Clayton Anti-trust act states that it is illegal for you to sell me Product A and then require that I buy Product B from a 3rd party when that Product B is not essential to the operation of the Product A, because ther are more than one types of Product B on the market. To do so is a restraint of free trade and constitutes a monoploy. That is the issue that the DOJ struggled so long and hard to avoid in their prosecution of MS. The 'bundleing' issue was a bungling issue. The DOJ new what they were doing and MS's action by this email is proof of that.
You have a short memory. About four years ago Microsoft was sued because it refused to honor the part of it's EULA about returning unopened WinXX shrinkwraps for a refund. The judge in the case ruled that since the Microsoft didn't sell the OS to the customer it was not liable. Dell was released because it didn't write the OS.
Catch-22 - the consumer loses again.
Didn't Microsoft make the similar claims/predictions about their hailstorm-passport technology four years ago? They've done an excellent job of keeping the true purpose and identity of them so secret, including the use of frequent name changes, that even their PR department is spouting two completely different descriptions of .NET!
At one thing is consistant, "WildBeast" --- for 1,183 trolls you have been a consistant supporter of less freedom for consumers and more infringement by Microsoft. I've come to the conclusion that you live in Redmond and work on the MS campus.
I've used Forth and have programmed an HP calculator. The Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) used by the HP is only similar to Forth. The HP can be mimicked by a LIFO stack and a single loop surrounding a series of case statements that parse the operators operators. The operators indicate how many operands are replaced by the result.
The book "Starting Forth", by Lee Brodie, is still the best introduction to that wonderful language. It is humerous too! Forth is a bottom up threaded language. You define some words. You combine some of them to define other words. Eventually you have a single word which is your entire application. Only assembler is faster than Forth.
Organisms blown up up from ocean foam, waterfall foam, in smoke from various fires have risen to the top of the atmosphere and been swept into space by solar wind and magnetic influences for ages. These dessicated organisms are blown away from the Earth by the solar wind and are carried to the outter planets. Drawn by those planets gravities the organisms filter down throught the atmosphere and land on the planet surfaces. If life is possible on those bodies organisms have already innoculated them.
Actually, on a pro-rated basis (exploits vs platform count), MS exploits occur at a rate 9 times more frequently than Linux exploits. Linux exploits make news because of their relative rarity. Remember the 'cross platform' jpg bug that was supposed to be a big threat to Linux? That was laughable, but it made news (or was hyped by anti-virus companies) because of the possibility that it would infect a Linux platform. Put another way, Linux infections would have to occure nine times more frequently than to do to reach the same relative level of infections achieved by WinXX platforms.