This is a definition of "fun" of which I was not previously aware...
Re:Use the mirrors? And what good will that do?
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Most of the addresses, ftp.us.kernel.org in particular, point to several machines, and which one you get is random. If you find a mirror that hasn't updated yet, just disconnect and try again. Same deal if you hit a really loaded server. Eventually you'll find one you like. I had no trouble just now.
And, of course, always get the patch(es), if you can.
The bz2 patch is 1.13Mb, that seems awful large... Yup, the next largest, 2.2.4, is only half the size, and most are smaller still. Looks like we've got quite a few changes this go around. I hope that nasty FS corruption bug is finally squashed. Well, I'll know soon enough...
I'm getting a 404 on the RealAudio version (at pnm://www.peeps.com/peeps/weirdal2/pentium.rm), is it actually not there? Or is this this server's response to being/.ed?
How does this apply to embedded software, or to anything not sold by a "software" company? A good chunk of the products produced a battery or a plug have some sort of EEPROM with software on it. Certainly any of the major home eletronics does.
So will this affect them? If I can't "transfer" software without permission, how can sell a used car? Will Maytag be able to come to my home and shut down my refrigerator?
None of which is remotely relevant. Anybody buying RHAT on IPO day is nuts. They deserve to lose their shirt.
On the other hand, getting in during the IPO is a very good deal indeed. Consider you friend Jane Trader. If she had be on MP3.com's list of friends and family (if she had posted an mp3 there, for instance), she would have bought at $28. She dropped $49k in to buy 500@98, so at the IPO she could have bought 1750 shares. As a day trader whe assume she cashes out. Now maybe she's asleep at the helm, and doesn't sell at 98, but instead when the price is obviously falling at 70. Jane Trader just made a $73.5k profit.
The only way to lose money on the RHAT deal, assuming you cash out, is if the price debuts (at $13 or whatever) and then falls. Does anyone see that happening?
A few days ago everyone was being real paranoid about how Redhat would now have to answer to its stockholders. "What if Microsoft buys a stake?!" came the bellows. So what does Redhat do? They dump a ton of shares back into the Linux/OSS community. Everyone has focused on how this is free money if you sell out early, but it also gives you partial control of Redhat if you stay. So now Microsoft might own a piece, but so will Debian. And we all know the kind of amoral money-grubbers Debian attracts...
But this is wrong too? So y'all don't want he money coming from outside, because that biases RHAT away from the community, but it can't from inside either, because that biases the community towards RHAT. So where can the money come from? Is there anything Red Hat can do that isn't sinister and underhanded?
Unfortunately, FUD has been around so long because it works, and this was pure and unadulterated FUD.
His argument boiled down to: There are three different stacks out there. Microsoft's, which sucks, but there's Big Money behind it, so it'll get better. BSD's, which is great, and there's Big Money behind it, so it'll get better. And Linux's, which is mediocre, and without MS or Sun bankrolling it, how's it going to go anywhere?
Uncertainty and doubt, in a nutshell.
Linux never had any money in the past and it got this far, there's no reason to assume that's going to change. Plus all indications are that there will be money in the future. With the RHAT IPO, and Amiga/Gateway moving in, and all the other hardware and distribution vendors hiring programmers, there's no reason to believe that there's no commitment to Linux development. Even its TCP/IP stack.
Roblimo is Robin Miller, and he's been a writer for Andover for ages, and is the guy they brought in to take the heat of Taco and Hemos. In the past, most of the links to Andover from Slashdot have actually been to his Cheap Computing column.
If Robin's style seems odd, it's probably partially that he's new to job, and mostly that he's a pro journalist (when he's nt driving a limo or taxi, at least).
Now this one actually makes sense. Common typos are a pretty common way of making money. Got slahsdot.org? Slap up an ad or two plus a link to slashdot.org, and you've got money for nothing.
Unfortunately, february.com is held by a squatter too, so its typos are unlikely to ever be worth anything.
"THIS SOFTWARE IS SOLD AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND"
My personal favorite is the clause that usually comes right after this: "including implied warranties of merchantability and fitness." In other words, the software isn't actually worth enough to sell (but worth far too much to give away! Programmers would starve!), and even if it were, it's not useful for any particular purpose, anyway.
If manager types read these things, they'd go nuts. Wait! We just spent how many thousands of dollars? And all we have is crates full of coasters and many copies of the same useless software that is collectively worth somewhat less than a penny?
Now, I haven't completely deciphered the above post (there needs to be a moderation catagory for "incoherent"), but I think it says someone is making an Uplift movie.
Is this true? Has someone bought the option? Are they doing anything with it? Even after Postman? Which book (Sundiver or maybe Uplift War, I should think)?
This would be funnier if there weren't an actual French Kiss Jar Jar toy.
I'm serious here, I saw it at Walmart. It was a lollipop, built something like a Pez dispenser, with a plastic Binks head on it. You were supposed to pry apart Jar Jar's lips and suck on the candy tongue inside.
Very disturbing.
And you could tell it was genuine Star Wars merchandise, too, cause it was like four bucks.
Brin, and Lucas too, does fiction, FICT-SHUN!, for a living. He's allowed to take it seriously if he wants to. He's a story-teller, he's allowed find fault with others' stories.
I've always said that there is no subject on Earth that it's not possible to make a funny joke about, and that there's nothing wrong with making that joke. The obvious flip side is that if there's nothing you can completely seriously, there's nothing you can take completely lightly, either.
What he meant was that the Highlander series didn't bother to wait 'till Highlander III (The Apology) to suck really bad.
The basic idea of that aside was that of SF movie trilogies, the first one is okay, the second is fantastic, while the third should nailed to the wall and set on fire. Highlander is a very obvious counter example.
Hmmph. So you wanna play number games? Well this is only AMD's fourth or fifth generation (when did they launch, 486? 386?) while Intel x86 is on its eighth (going all the way back to the 4004).
And Windows 98 is obviously better than outdated 70's technology Linux 2.2.
Personally, I'm going to look at benchmarks, and I'm going to look at prices, and I'll leave the numerology to the charl^H^H^H^H^Hprofessionals.
You filter out Slashdot's ads? You don't know what you're missing. I still chuckle whenever I see the "Someday the sun will fail" banner. Now that's quality entertainment!
And I've heard nothing but good things about Andover over the months, so I don't see any reason to believe they'll screw things up. Especially if their only influence on the page itself is the banner ads. I'll be happy as long as they don't dump a ton of javascript or whatever up there, or turn it over to Flycast or some other generic banner server that'll put up any old junk. If I've got to see banners, they as well be targetted and about something I'm interested in.
Side rant: Flycast is really pissing me off lately. Whenever their servers fail, and they seem to do it a lot, you get forwarded away from the site you're trying to look at so you can see an ever-so-interesting 500 error page instead. Gawd, I hope Pete Abrams (plug)dumps them.
So don't give an email address at all. Or spamblock it. Or make one up. Or install procmail. I've never believed in inconviencing anybody else just so the spammers have one less address in their lists.
Yeah, the FAQ mentions that code was used as a base. There's was some moderate 2D support for the NV1, RIVA 128, and TNT chipsets, but nothing official, and it was far from complete.
And, of course, 3D support rocks. Now I can check out Tux: A Quest For Herring!
Re:I guess KDE is ok if you really want MS Windows
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It's that damn file manager/web browser thing again. If I click on an Excel file in my file manager, I don't want my file manager to go away. On the other hand, if I try to open an Excel document with my web browser, I want that to work. I don't necessarily need or even want to be able to edit it, but I should be able to see it.
I still don't think it's a good idea to integrate the two. So I'll just keep using Netscape (hopefully Mozilla will add CORBA support) and bash like always.
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Then run windows :)
This is a definition of "fun" of which I was not previously aware...
Most of the addresses, ftp.us.kernel.org in particular, point to several machines, and which one you get is random. If you find a mirror that hasn't updated yet, just disconnect and try again. Same deal if you hit a really loaded server. Eventually you'll find one you like. I had no trouble just now.
And, of course, always get the patch(es), if you can.
The bz2 patch is 1.13Mb, that seems awful large... Yup, the next largest, 2.2.4, is only half the size, and most are smaller still. Looks like we've got quite a few changes this go around. I hope that nasty FS corruption bug is finally squashed. Well, I'll know soon enough...
I'm getting a 404 on the RealAudio version (at pnm://www.peeps.com/peeps/weirdal2/pentium .rm), is it actually not there? Or is this this server's response to being /.ed?
How does this apply to embedded software, or to anything not sold by a "software" company? A good chunk of the products produced a battery or a plug have some sort of EEPROM with software on it. Certainly any of the major home eletronics does.
So will this affect them? If I can't "transfer" software without permission, how can sell a used car? Will Maytag be able to come to my home and shut down my refrigerator?
None of which is remotely relevant. Anybody buying RHAT on IPO day is nuts. They deserve to lose their shirt.
On the other hand, getting in during the IPO is a very good deal indeed. Consider you friend Jane Trader. If she had be on MP3.com's list of friends and family (if she had posted an mp3 there, for instance), she would have bought at $28. She dropped $49k in to buy 500@98, so at the IPO she could have bought 1750 shares. As a day trader whe assume she cashes out. Now maybe she's asleep at the helm, and doesn't sell at 98, but instead when the price is obviously falling at 70. Jane Trader just made a $73.5k profit.
The only way to lose money on the RHAT deal, assuming you cash out, is if the price debuts (at $13 or whatever) and then falls. Does anyone see that happening?
A few days ago everyone was being real paranoid about how Redhat would now have to answer to its stockholders. "What if Microsoft buys a stake?!" came the bellows. So what does Redhat do? They dump a ton of shares back into the Linux/OSS community. Everyone has focused on how this is free money if you sell out early, but it also gives you partial control of Redhat if you stay. So now Microsoft might own a piece, but so will Debian. And we all know the kind of amoral money-grubbers Debian attracts...
But this is wrong too? So y'all don't want he money coming from outside, because that biases RHAT away from the community, but it can't from inside either, because that biases the community towards RHAT. So where can the money come from? Is there anything Red Hat can do that isn't sinister and underhanded?
Unfortunately, FUD has been around so long because it works, and this was pure and unadulterated FUD.
His argument boiled down to: There are three different stacks out there. Microsoft's, which sucks, but there's Big Money behind it, so it'll get better. BSD's, which is great, and there's Big Money behind it, so it'll get better. And Linux's, which is mediocre, and without MS or Sun bankrolling it, how's it going to go anywhere?
Uncertainty and doubt, in a nutshell.
Linux never had any money in the past and it got this far, there's no reason to assume that's going to change. Plus all indications are that there will be money in the future. With the RHAT IPO, and Amiga/Gateway moving in, and all the other hardware and distribution vendors hiring programmers, there's no reason to believe that there's no commitment to Linux development. Even its TCP/IP stack.
Roblimo is Robin Miller, and he's been a writer for Andover for ages, and is the guy they brought in to take the heat of Taco and Hemos. In the past, most of the links to Andover from Slashdot have actually been to his Cheap Computing column.
If Robin's style seems odd, it's probably partially that he's new to job, and mostly that he's a pro journalist (when he's nt driving a limo or taxi, at least).
Now this one actually makes sense. Common typos are a pretty common way of making money. Got slahsdot.org? Slap up an ad or two plus a link to slashdot.org, and you've got money for nothing.
Unfortunately, february.com is held by a squatter too, so its typos are unlikely to ever be worth anything.
I dunno about the rest of you, but my sarcasm meter was really pinging on joshwa's "staggering"...
Umm, seems to me you had no trouble finding the choice that didn't involve buying Microsoft.
I may not agree with sql*kitten's other statements, but he's dead on with regard to force and choice. See, even MCSE's can be right sometimes...
"THIS SOFTWARE IS SOLD AS IS, WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND"
My personal favorite is the clause that usually comes right after this: "including implied warranties of merchantability and fitness." In other words, the software isn't actually worth enough to sell (but worth far too much to give away! Programmers would starve!), and even if it were, it's not useful for any particular purpose, anyway.
If manager types read these things, they'd go nuts. Wait! We just spent how many thousands of dollars? And all we have is crates full of coasters and many copies of the same useless software that is collectively worth somewhat less than a penny?
Now, I haven't completely deciphered the above post (there needs to be a moderation catagory for "incoherent"), but I think it says someone is making an Uplift movie.
Is this true? Has someone bought the option? Are they doing anything with it? Even after Postman? Which book (Sundiver or maybe Uplift War, I should think)?
This would be funnier if there weren't an actual French Kiss Jar Jar toy.
I'm serious here, I saw it at Walmart. It was a lollipop, built something like a Pez dispenser, with a plastic Binks head on it. You were supposed to pry apart Jar Jar's lips and suck on the candy tongue inside.
Very disturbing.
And you could tell it was genuine Star Wars merchandise, too, cause it was like four bucks.
Brin, and Lucas too, does fiction, FICT-SHUN!, for a living. He's allowed to take it seriously if he wants to. He's a story-teller, he's allowed find fault with others' stories.
I've always said that there is no subject on Earth that it's not possible to make a funny joke about, and that there's nothing wrong with making that joke. The obvious flip side is that if there's nothing you can completely seriously, there's nothing you can take completely lightly, either.
What he meant was that the Highlander series didn't bother to wait 'till Highlander III (The Apology) to suck really bad.
The basic idea of that aside was that of SF movie trilogies, the first one is okay, the second is fantastic, while the third should nailed to the wall and set on fire. Highlander is a very obvious counter example.
Hmmph. So you wanna play number games? Well this is only AMD's fourth or fifth generation (when did they launch, 486? 386?) while Intel x86 is on its eighth (going all the way back to the 4004).
And Windows 98 is obviously better than outdated 70's technology Linux 2.2.
Personally, I'm going to look at benchmarks, and I'm going to look at prices, and I'll leave the numerology to the charl^H^H^H^H^Hprofessionals.
Even stranger is that babelfish is completely correct, if a little archaic. "Brandnew" literally means "newly forged".
Looking at the time stamps, you've allowed the moderators twelve whole minutes to react. Don't you think you should wait a little longer?
Somebody'll get to it. Don't worry.
You filter out Slashdot's ads? You don't know what you're missing. I still chuckle whenever I see the "Someday the sun will fail" banner. Now that's quality entertainment!
And I've heard nothing but good things about Andover over the months, so I don't see any reason to believe they'll screw things up. Especially if their only influence on the page itself is the banner ads. I'll be happy as long as they don't dump a ton of javascript or whatever up there, or turn it over to Flycast or some other generic banner server that'll put up any old junk. If I've got to see banners, they as well be targetted and about something I'm interested in.
Side rant: Flycast is really pissing me off lately. Whenever their servers fail, and they seem to do it a lot, you get forwarded away from the site you're trying to look at so you can see an ever-so-interesting 500 error page instead. Gawd, I hope Pete Abrams (plug)dumps them.
So don't give an email address at all. Or spamblock it. Or make one up. Or install procmail. I've never believed in inconviencing anybody else just so the spammers have one less address in their lists.
On every line it gives you an error (there are two or three), just insert a ';' before the closing '}'. That fixed it for me.
Yeah, the FAQ mentions that code was used as a base. There's was some moderate 2D support for the NV1, RIVA 128, and TNT chipsets, but nothing official, and it was far from complete.
And, of course, 3D support rocks. Now I can check out Tux: A Quest For Herring!
It's that damn file manager/web browser thing again. If I click on an Excel file in my file manager, I don't want my file manager to go away. On the other hand, if I try to open an Excel document with my web browser, I want that to work. I don't necessarily need or even want to be able to edit it, but I should be able to see it.
I still don't think it's a good idea to integrate the two. So I'll just keep using Netscape (hopefully Mozilla will add CORBA support) and bash like always.