Had better be pretty sure about that before you say it's all bunk. After all, they didn't say it has NO performance hit, just not a substantial one -- and they did even concede that power users may notice it. The one question I have is -- what about other stuff other than the hardware, say the windows Registry and DirectX and all that bullshit that goes along with emulating a windows host -- or the Resource and Data forks in Mac OS files -- how about HFS or Ext2 file systems? NTFS? how are these issues resulved by 'code translation?' How about installation ? You can run programs that are in MSI format in any emulator I've seen... Is there a fake System32 folder on a linux host running this emulator?
If that were true then who has the right to go around spending money on anything? We shouldn't be able to eat at mcdonalds unless all the homeless people have houses by your standard. I think that what I do with my money is my deciscion, and nobody else has a 'right' to the resources in my wallet.
This is true. We demand the benefits of an open market, and yet we complain when taxes are high enough to support the social programs that other countries have. Someday people will realize that we can't have our cake and eat it too. I personally think the risk of going broke and living without healthcare is worth the ability to make yourself rich by your own accopmplishments and ambition.
Those factors mean something, but they aren't enought to open or shut a case for either side of the argument. From what we know currently, one big condition is necessary for the life and planetary evolution to avoid almost immediate entropic destruction -- circular planetary orbits. That way they don't throw eachother into eachother, they have roughly stable solar exposure, and they dont go careening of into space or into the host stars. All of that stuff is necessary for things like life as we know it (I always have to say that because there is no reason that life cannot exist in some other form -- like a being of pure energy or something) to have time to happen. If the sun wasn't affecting the earth relatively constantly and relatively evenly over the eons we wouldn't have anywhere near the climate stability that we do on earth. The rarity of circular un-interrupted orbits would seem to cut down the number of other stars out there that could harbor our type of planets tremendously, but is that a geometric or an exponential factor? we don't know. We'd have to find at least 2 or 3 other ones out there to even formulate a grounded hypothesis. So, the universe being so damned old is indeed a factor in this, because it allows more time for the random formation of things to end up in a similar configuration. This brings up another interesting point though: if other life can statistically exist, what are the chances that the civilizations that will form will exist simultaneously with ours? If you consider that the total duration of our own is less than a hundred thousand years (a conservative estimate really) then that means the odds of us even co-existing with another civilization are dramatically reduced, let alone factoring in the probability of them being close enough for us to find.... It's all pretty nice to ponder, but if we do, for instance get a hit on the SETI radar, it could very well be from a long extinct breed of something that we wouldn't even recognize as being alive. Our biological systems exist on our time scale and match up with our environment in such a way that we have a lifespan of around 100 years. But, if a creature made of something more solid had a lifespan of a hundered thousand years, then we might not even recognize it's attempt to wave hello. It may take it 20 years to move perceptibly to us. (Like a mountain -- constantly eroding, but so slowly that we don't see it happening, for those of you who aren't following me) By the same token, our radio signals may only last for it the equivelent of nanoseconds in it's perception, so even if we hit them on the head with a satelite, we may be there and gone before they'd perceive us.
except for the fact that discovery evidence is not supposed to be on the public record. Even though SCO may be right about this (theoretically) they've possibly f-d themselves by going to the media with it before the courtroom.
I think that gravity still has an effect on the running of software -- like electrons and all that. The information in memory, the information passing across the wires, etc... but the information itself in its imaginary state (well actually only if you don't imagine it -- because then it is manifested in some physical form in your brain), you're right, is not affected, just all ways of representing, storing, accessing, transporting, activating (?) it are.
The code stored in the pathways of your brain is still affected by gravity. Your head is just an organic circuit board, which stores information in the physical world, according to the laws of physics, gravity included.
althouth, I have to admit, I never thought of it like this before. Unless you're capabale of holding information in a parallel universe, and somehow accessing it with your brain externally, it's probably affected by gravity along every step of the way.
The question remains: if a program exists, and no computer is around to run it, does it make a sound?
I'm not trying to argue with you, just having a little fun with this concept.
I am so incredibly emotional about this topic, because I have seen so many awful database implementations. Ad hoc calls are often times confusing when reading the code, so stored procs provide readablility (if named mneumonically of course) and the I absolutely believe 100% that all business logic possible should be encapsulated into stored procedures. Without stored procs, databases are not much better than a giant expensive spreadsheet application. DBMS's are made to handle, twist, turn and file data in order, forward backward and sideways. When arranging and smashing data Your code is *almost* (see I said 'almost' leaving you code hungry byte crunches in the clear) always the bottleneck. Why possibly bottleneck your app, or possibly risk storing data in less efficient flat in memory/on disk structures that don't collate, or neatly turn themselves into XML? I write some databases with enormous stored procs that accept and parse XML directly for insert or update, which would take a lot more work to do in client code. It's really nice when you can ship XML into the DB, and pull XML back out completely unprocessed, and the DB takes care of all of it with a stored proc. Why not use this kickass functionality? (It's even easier to get XML out of a db -- at least in Oracle and SQL server) When you put code in the DB, you can run whatever front end consumer or producer application you want -- for example a webservice, or a server demon. In my xml example, both could either produce or consume the data in the same format, with only the call of a few file reads and dblib calls. To me it's a no brainer. I love MySQL, but I can't wait for the stored procs. I haven't had time to mess with the beta yet... I'll wait for the release probably.
As for the argument that programmers don't want to do it becuase they are 'only java programmers' or only 'visual c++' programmers, that's bullshit. Programmers write code for a living, they need to learn whatever language it takes to get the job done. I do, and everyone I work with does.
demonstrating their amazing abilities to stick their foot in it over and over, all whilst portraying themselves as great enforcers of the american way , and upholders of the capitalistic lifestyle that we all hold so dear. I smell an oscar. Maybe Darl will want to take his newfound fame and fortune to the next level, by becoming a rockstartoo.
Their stock price took another dive in the past few hours? $4.20 at the time of this posting. I'm still waiting for it to go below a dollar. I actually expected it sooner, but it's been sticking near 5 for way too long.
I don't need anyone to be an expert. I just want them to know that it's what I do all day, and that I don't do it all day for free. They can click a few times and fix it themselves, it's not really something that requires an expert.
I can't imagine telling my mom to "look it up on google".
You could tell your mom to click on the icon that says 'windows update' though, and if you're worried about sharing information with other businesses as a reason not to switch to linux, there's openoffice.org, which works with all the office related stuff that almost anyone could need, unless you mean Access (and nobody should be using access anyway;)
I know what you're saying, but people who drive cars know that they need to change their oil every once in a while -- even if they aren't mechanics -- they also know that there are serveral makers they can buy from, and what the differences between them are. But they don't seem to think that they need to keep up to date with antivirus and patch levels, and they don't know there is anything but what is on their desktop shortcuts list in the way of browsers. I'm not even touching the fact that they don't know that they aren't forced to use windows. Maybe people need to be trained to give their own machines an oil change every once in a while. I do't bug the neighbor to change my fuel filter for me for free every time I see him, and he's an automechanic. Same deal.
I agree that they are taking advantage of their ill informed users, but the fact that the users remain ill-informed is not all Microsoft's fault. It just so happens that users are lazy, and microsoft pretends that they are trying to spoon feed them. They, of course, aren't, becuase they can profit from lazy users. Being a support guy, I know how people intentionally don't learn how to use computers effectively becuase they can always just bug someone like me when I come over for dinner about those annoying popups. I've stopped helping people fix their machines over dinner, but that won't make them look any harder, the kid next door who 'knows all about computers' is just as likely to embolden their laziness in attempt to make himself look smart. He'll learn someday, but there's always another one to pick it up later...
I searched again and it came up. Seems fruity to me. Some search engine. No results once, second try , same results as google. This doesn't seem to be quite the same though, because the first result was
http://sco.com/?sco=litigious+bastards which seems to me to be Microsoft Guessing that since so many sites point to them by that name, that they are the site you're looking for. google bombing -- providing insight into Microsoft's search algorithm.
My college, university of pittsburgh, had Windows, Office, and Visual Studio on educational enterprise licensing from microsoft. All students got one free copy of Office XP, and as many copies of windows as you could install. They REQUIRED us to have Netbios turned on, or the ports to our network were shut off. The had cisco port-security enabled on the lan, so that if we plugged in a hub, or someone else's machine to our port, or changed the MAC address, then our ports were automatically switched off. I was able to plead with the department head (the network was still maintained by faculty and students) to get my linux box allowed on the network (they disabled my port security) and they didn't even know that the front side box I had was a NAT head for 3 other machines I had behind it, one of which was indeed a windows host -- so I could run Visual Studio for my CS classes. (They didn't have.NET back then... it was VS 6) The copies of Office we got were the 'install once, register online to activate' kind, so if your box ot hosed by file sharing programs, and you had to re-load it, you were F'd. Luckily someone came out with the crack in time to save my fraternity brothers when they all got screwed by a viruses (can't remember which one off the top of my head.) After that incident, I stopped being a 'good sameritan' about their computers. I made it a policy that file sharing programs void my warranty.
I do remember wrestling with this, and I look back at my.tcshrc file and I see the following line "stty erase ^H" hiding near the bottom of my aliases. It's hard to remember all of these things at one time.
End, Shift+Home highlights the whole line, Shift+End Highlights to the end of the line... There are probably 10, ok well not ten, other ways to do it too..
That's easy enough to fix. In your.rc file (or.login file) on the target host, set the terminal type to whatever you're used to. vt100 or ansi seem to work ok, but stick to one and you don't have to keep switching. I use tcsh, so in my.tcshrc file on each host, I have two lines that say
setenv TERM ansi tset
then I always use the ansi terminal settings (i.e. backspace not Ctrl-H)
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Had better be pretty sure about that before you say it's all bunk. After all, they didn't say it has NO performance hit, just not a substantial one -- and they did even concede that power users may notice it. The one question I have is -- what about other stuff other than the hardware, say the windows Registry and DirectX and all that bullshit that goes along with emulating a windows host -- or the Resource and Data forks in Mac OS files -- how about HFS or Ext2 file systems? NTFS? how are these issues resulved by 'code translation?' How about installation ? You can run programs that are in MSI format in any emulator I've seen... Is there a fake System32 folder on a linux host running this emulator?
If that were true then who has the right to go around spending money on anything? We shouldn't be able to eat at mcdonalds unless all the homeless people have houses by your standard. I think that what I do with my money is my deciscion, and nobody else has a 'right' to the resources in my wallet.
This is true. We demand the benefits of an open market, and yet we complain when taxes are high enough to support the social programs that other countries have. Someday people will realize that we can't have our cake and eat it too. I personally think the risk of going broke and living without healthcare is worth the ability to make yourself rich by your own accopmplishments and ambition.
I was just thinking that. You read my mind.
until one of the aliens zaps all of their heads into oblivion with their RAY GUNS!
Those factors mean something, but they aren't enought to open or shut a case for either side of the argument. From what we know currently, one big condition is necessary for the life and planetary evolution to avoid almost immediate entropic destruction -- circular planetary orbits. That way they don't throw eachother into eachother, they have roughly stable solar exposure, and they dont go careening of into space or into the host stars. All of that stuff is necessary for things like life as we know it (I always have to say that because there is no reason that life cannot exist in some other form -- like a being of pure energy or something) to have time to happen. If the sun wasn't affecting the earth relatively constantly and relatively evenly over the eons we wouldn't have anywhere near the climate stability that we do on earth. The rarity of circular un-interrupted orbits would seem to cut down the number of other stars out there that could harbor our type of planets tremendously, but is that a geometric or an exponential factor? we don't know. We'd have to find at least 2 or 3 other ones out there to even formulate a grounded hypothesis. So, the universe being so damned old is indeed a factor in this, because it allows more time for the random formation of things to end up in a similar configuration. This brings up another interesting point though: if other life can statistically exist, what are the chances that the civilizations that will form will exist simultaneously with ours? If you consider that the total duration of our own is less than a hundred thousand years (a conservative estimate really) then that means the odds of us even co-existing with another civilization are dramatically reduced, let alone factoring in the probability of them being close enough for us to find.... It's all pretty nice to ponder, but if we do, for instance get a hit on the SETI radar, it could very well be from a long extinct breed of something that we wouldn't even recognize as being alive. Our biological systems exist on our time scale and match up with our environment in such a way that we have a lifespan of around 100 years. But, if a creature made of something more solid had a lifespan of a hundered thousand years, then we might not even recognize it's attempt to wave hello. It may take it 20 years to move perceptibly to us. (Like a mountain -- constantly eroding, but so slowly that we don't see it happening, for those of you who aren't following me) By the same token, our radio signals may only last for it the equivelent of nanoseconds in it's perception, so even if we hit them on the head with a satelite, we may be there and gone before they'd perceive us.
except for the fact that discovery evidence is not supposed to be on the public record. Even though SCO may be right about this (theoretically) they've possibly f-d themselves by going to the media with it before the courtroom.
The code stored in the pathways of your brain is still affected by gravity. Your head is just an organic circuit board, which stores information in the physical world, according to the laws of physics, gravity included.
althouth, I have to admit, I never thought of it like this before. Unless you're capabale of holding information in a parallel universe, and somehow accessing it with your brain externally, it's probably affected by gravity along every step of the way.
The question remains: if a program exists, and no computer is around to run it, does it make a sound?
I'm not trying to argue with you, just having a little fun with this concept.
As for the argument that programmers don't want to do it becuase they are 'only java programmers' or only 'visual c++' programmers, that's bullshit. Programmers write code for a living, they need to learn whatever language it takes to get the job done. I do, and everyone I work with does.
Not to mention "Port Knocking"
finally, seems like a definative answer. Interestingly enough AC, you seem to do a lot of posting. ;P
demonstrating their amazing abilities to stick their foot in it over and over, all whilst portraying themselves as great enforcers of the american way , and upholders of the capitalistic lifestyle that we all hold so dear. I smell an oscar. Maybe Darl will want to take his newfound fame and fortune to the next level, by becoming a rockstar too.
because we want to see SCO crash and burn, and every little sign of it (minute share price drop) makes us feel better.
Their stock price took another dive in the past few hours? $4.20 at the time of this posting. I'm still waiting for it to go below a dollar. I actually expected it sooner, but it's been sticking near 5 for way too long.
I was actually referring to brands of cars. I agree with you about the oil though ;)
I don't need anyone to be an expert. I just want them to know that it's what I do all day, and that I don't do it all day for free. They can click a few times and fix it themselves, it's not really something that requires an expert.
You could tell your mom to click on the icon that says 'windows update' though, and if you're worried about sharing information with other businesses as a reason not to switch to linux, there's openoffice.org, which works with all the office related stuff that almost anyone could need, unless you mean Access (and nobody should be using access anyway ;)
I know what you're saying, but people who drive cars know that they need to change their oil every once in a while -- even if they aren't mechanics -- they also know that there are serveral makers they can buy from, and what the differences between them are. But they don't seem to think that they need to keep up to date with antivirus and patch levels, and they don't know there is anything but what is on their desktop shortcuts list in the way of browsers. I'm not even touching the fact that they don't know that they aren't forced to use windows. Maybe people need to be trained to give their own machines an oil change every once in a while. I do't bug the neighbor to change my fuel filter for me for free every time I see him, and he's an automechanic. Same deal.
I agree that they are taking advantage of their ill informed users, but the fact that the users remain ill-informed is not all Microsoft's fault. It just so happens that users are lazy, and microsoft pretends that they are trying to spoon feed them. They, of course, aren't, becuase they can profit from lazy users. Being a support guy, I know how people intentionally don't learn how to use computers effectively becuase they can always just bug someone like me when I come over for dinner about those annoying popups. I've stopped helping people fix their machines over dinner, but that won't make them look any harder, the kid next door who 'knows all about computers' is just as likely to embolden their laziness in attempt to make himself look smart. He'll learn someday, but there's always another one to pick it up later...
I searched again and it came up. Seems fruity to me. Some search engine. No results once, second try , same results as google. This doesn't seem to be quite the same though, because the first result was http://sco.com/?sco=litigious+bastards which seems to me to be Microsoft Guessing that since so many sites point to them by that name, that they are the site you're looking for. google bombing -- providing insight into Microsoft's search algorithm.
I tried Litigious Bastards, and it came up with no results. Maybe SCO is giving up!
My college, university of pittsburgh, had Windows, Office, and Visual Studio on educational enterprise licensing from microsoft. All students got one free copy of Office XP, and as many copies of windows as you could install. They REQUIRED us to have Netbios turned on, or the ports to our network were shut off. The had cisco port-security enabled on the lan, so that if we plugged in a hub, or someone else's machine to our port, or changed the MAC address, then our ports were automatically switched off. I was able to plead with the department head (the network was still maintained by faculty and students) to get my linux box allowed on the network (they disabled my port security) and they didn't even know that the front side box I had was a NAT head for 3 other machines I had behind it, one of which was indeed a windows host -- so I could run Visual Studio for my CS classes. (They didn't have .NET back then... it was VS 6) The copies of Office we got were the 'install once, register online to activate' kind, so if your box ot hosed by file sharing programs, and you had to re-load it, you were F'd. Luckily someone came out with the crack in time to save my fraternity brothers when they all got screwed by a viruses (can't remember which one off the top of my head.) After that incident, I stopped being a 'good sameritan' about their computers. I made it a policy that file sharing programs void my warranty.
I do remember wrestling with this, and I look back at my .tcshrc file and I see the following line "stty erase ^H" hiding near the bottom of my aliases. It's hard to remember all of these things at one time.
End, Shift+Home highlights the whole line, Shift+End Highlights to the end of the line... There are probably 10, ok well not ten, other ways to do it too..
setenv TERM ansi
then I always use the ansi terminal settings (i.e. backspace not Ctrl-H)tset