Im NOT running unlisenced software. I am running software that was given to me by the software vendor. To get the software I had to sign into the promotional event. For every event I have EVER atteneded there is a sign in that states that the software distributed at the event is for personal use only and is not to be resold. So by agreeing to that I am establishing a contract (or lisence depending upon how you view it) with the vendor that I am allowed to use thier software so long as I dont resell it or borrow it to anyone.
Furthermore every event I have ever attended (at least 30+) hthey have sent me an email before the event confirming my reservation for the event and that email also contains a sylabus of the agenda for that event and *gasp!* states that they will be distributing a free copy of titlex to all those who attend.
So I *DO* have proof of how I obtained the software and a copy of the AGREEMENT that I have wih the vendor that I can use the product so long as I dont distribute it.
I read these posts and I think to myself, have any of you flaming this practice ever attended one of these events and witnessed HOW they distribute the software? Or do you just hate MS so much that you come out against this for no other reason than "MS sucks!"???
I work for a major retail computer chain. We used to have training events with all kinds of software vendors (microsoft, mcafee, mgi, datavis, roxio, etc.) and they used to give out all kinds of free software so that we could try thier products in hopes that if we used them we would reccommend the software to our customers. Now, due to the current economy a lot of these training events have stopped, but even at the ones that still do occur (microsoft included) we dont get NEARLY the amount of handouts that we used to. Again, it could probably be argued that this is due to economic conditions, and I would agree if they were handing out keyboards or processors, but for the cost of them to manufacture a CD they dont lose money as compared to what they will make on our reccomendations to customers.
Anyway, back to my point. It seems to me that this guy is just trying to cause trouble for troubles sake, OR is trying to prove a point with regards to liscencing laws. While I agree with the sentiments, I DO NOT agree with the ammunition he is using for his fight.
All he is effectively doing is making these companies more gunshy to hand out free software to resellers like myself, or anyone else who attends training events like the one he did to get his software. The companies wont want to deal with a deluge of email like this, or go throught the trouble of making special key sets for promotional NFR (not for resale) software, etc. Actually, we USED to get software that was stamped NFR all over it, but they stopped this and started handing out "real" versions under volume lisences because there were more costs involved with producing NFR sets rather than using existing stock.
Youre looking a gift horse in the mouth and will end up ruining things for yourself and everyone else just to prove a point!
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Man is being used as an archetype. It is the same as if discussing themes of literary work such as Man vs. Nature, or Man vs. Himself.
The "Man" is used to represent humanity rather than a specific gender.
Im NOT running unlisenced software. I am running software that was given to me by the software vendor. To get the software I had to sign into the promotional event. For every event I have EVER atteneded there is a sign in that states that the software distributed at the event is for personal use only and is not to be resold. So by agreeing to that I am establishing a contract (or lisence depending upon how you view it) with the vendor that I am allowed to use thier software so long as I dont resell it or borrow it to anyone. Furthermore every event I have ever attended (at least 30+) hthey have sent me an email before the event confirming my reservation for the event and that email also contains a sylabus of the agenda for that event and *gasp!* states that they will be distributing a free copy of titlex to all those who attend. So I *DO* have proof of how I obtained the software and a copy of the AGREEMENT that I have wih the vendor that I can use the product so long as I dont distribute it. I read these posts and I think to myself, have any of you flaming this practice ever attended one of these events and witnessed HOW they distribute the software? Or do you just hate MS so much that you come out against this for no other reason than "MS sucks!"???
I work for a major retail computer chain. We used to have training events with all kinds of software vendors (microsoft, mcafee, mgi, datavis, roxio, etc.) and they used to give out all kinds of free software so that we could try thier products in hopes that if we used them we would reccommend the software to our customers. Now, due to the current economy a lot of these training events have stopped, but even at the ones that still do occur (microsoft included) we dont get NEARLY the amount of handouts that we used to. Again, it could probably be argued that this is due to economic conditions, and I would agree if they were handing out keyboards or processors, but for the cost of them to manufacture a CD they dont lose money as compared to what they will make on our reccomendations to customers.
Anyway, back to my point. It seems to me that this guy is just trying to cause trouble for troubles sake, OR is trying to prove a point with regards to liscencing laws. While I agree with the sentiments, I DO NOT agree with the ammunition he is using for his fight.
All he is effectively doing is making these companies more gunshy to hand out free software to resellers like myself, or anyone else who attends training events like the one he did to get his software. The companies wont want to deal with a deluge of email like this, or go throught the trouble of making special key sets for promotional NFR (not for resale) software, etc. Actually, we USED to get software that was stamped NFR all over it, but they stopped this and started handing out "real" versions under volume lisences because there were more costs involved with producing NFR sets rather than using existing stock.
Youre looking a gift horse in the mouth and will end up ruining things for yourself and everyone else just to prove a point!
There is a great forum over at www.avscience.com the specific forum link is:
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php
That forum is related to all things PC/Media related.
They also have a specific Linux users forum at:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php
The other forums at avscience are great resources too, so dont hesitate to check them out, but these two forums should fit this particular topic.