Yes, I'm thinking that this is finally the beginning of the end of all this non-sense.
Let's hope so. SCO needs to go off into the sunset and never be heard from again. If you own SCO stock, I'd advise dumping and running now. Or perhaps shorting the stock.
That's just it...it's a "refurb" eMac...it's not brand new where as I can build a brand new system that's very fast with 512megs ram and 80 gig HD for $475. AMD 2500+ XP Barton.
Don't get me wrong, I love Macs...but I can save 125 bucks that I can use elsewhere.
I'm on the Gentoo IRC channel a lot, getting help and giving help when I can. But when I try to bring up the pitfalls of trusted computing, all I get is a 'huh'? or "nah, it will be ok I'm sure".
It's like everyone has their heads in the sand. When the major BIOS makers are going to trusted only computing, where are we going to run our Linux?
Some people say "just buy a Mac". I'm sorry, if I could afford a Mac I would. But since I can't build a brand new Mac for $475 like I did the machine I'm using now, it's going to be a while. And the only reason I built this so cheaply is because I didn't have to pay a Microsoft tax.
I want a machine I can build myself. An OS that I build myself. When I do that, I'M THE ONE WITH CONTROL! Not MS or Dell or Gateway or Pheonix.
you can't compute anymore. If you can only afford around $500, you have to either go with Microsoft trusted computers or go without.
I would love to have a mac...but I can't see paying for the cheapest one that's STILL 300 over the one I just built from scratch...AND it being much more powerfull.
Sure, the Mac is great and I'd love to have one, I just can't afford one. So your solution to just get a Mac isn't for everyone I'm afraid.
But maybe if everyone DID go with Mac, it would drive down the prices. So everyone...go out and get a Mac, and when they come down in price I'll jump on the bandwagon also!
I mean, they're not a government body. They only have power because they say they have power. If everyone ignored them, there is nothing they can do about it.
It's time to forget them. They are the past. The genie is out of the bottle, and they can't ever put it back in. It's time to look for a new business model I'm afraid. They want to only hold on to what they had and not pursue what is the future.
Remember, they only have power because everyone believes they have power. They were not voted on, we didn't elect them. The President didn't appoint them.
I'm familiar with the book, which is an understatment for me.
This wasn't a poor film, in fact it was one of the best films of last year. Bar none.
The changes were not that bad in my opinion. Gimli's role as comic sidekick was a little much, but not that bad. You're plain wrong about Faramir...especially in the extended version (which I doubt you would watch..and if you DO watch it, why? You hate this movie so much why waste your time?).
The shield surfing thing...hmmm...your argument was that it wasn't in the book? Legolas is right handed in the movie also...but it didn't mention it in the book!!! EGADS!
Theoden was dead on in my book...perhaps you read a different Cliff Notes version of TTT or something.
While it's your opinion that you didnt like the movie. But what would YOU have done? Would you have drawn on all the long bits of the book? Would you have included all the singing and poems? The characters in the book are a little dry. They're dialog wouldn't make it in today's theaters and in fact would sound very hoaky. Remember, these movies were made to make money. They don't spend $400 million on 3 movies for just high art and the fans of the books only. They have to walk the fine line of the fans vs. the general population. The Liv Tyler sequences are in there for this reason.
It's a very rocky path...but I think Jackson deserves every amount of praise he gets on bringing these movies to the screen.
I'm interested in why people make these claims as you do, about how Jackson made and ass of himself. In what way? How did he trash this?
But of course, these books being what they are they can't please all the fans all the time. I'm a long time Ring fan...reading it for the first time in 1975. I've read it now a total of 13 times (all the way through that is, I sometimes pick it up now and then to breeze through it). And I thought Jackson did and excellent job of the movies. In fact, these movies now rank as my all time favorite. I knew he would have to change things, to leave out things. They're movies...movies are always different. I know some people who wanted the books verbatum. 2 people I know wanted 3 movies for the first book alone...so everything, including the singing and Tom B. could be included!
Then again, I know other people that never read the books that loved it...and some that said it was so so. But what amazes me are people like you that just make wild statements like "he trashed it" yet give no reason.
I neither understand why you'd need a screen of thumbnails to all your open apps, nor understand why this is on slashdot.
Just because YOU work in a certain way doesn't mean I have to work in that same way. You can't understand why people would want this, nor you can't fathom why it's on Slashdot? How myopic your world view is.
All of us are different. We all want different things. One person's junk is another person's treasure.
I guess I work a little differently from you. Because all my desktops are always crammed with items that make it a little hard to find the exact window you're looking for.
I've settled on Gentoo as my distro of choice...while it not be as stable as the release versions of Debian..that's only because Debian takes forever (for good reason!).
But portage is truly a thing of beauty.
But not to turn this into a Gentoo advertisment, way to go Debian!
But how are these services going to generate actual profits? From what I understand Apple doesn't make anything from their.99 cent songs. They're mainly looking for people to buy iPods to play those songs on.
If Walmart and Yahoo and Microsoft and "Joe's MP3 Warehouse" are selling music at the same price point, where are the profits coming from? Or is this yet another Internet enterprise that is built on a house of cards?
I hope that all these services offer OPEN standards that can be mixed and matched. For instance, I don't want to buy a song from Walmart that only plays on "Wal-Player" or something.
Do you see Fedora as a direct competitor or modeled similar to GNU/Debian, turning into a totally community driven distro? And if so, how can you justify splitting the community and making them decide between the two if this is your goal for Fedora? In effect, why use Fedora instead of Debian?
How are the Enterprise product customers being screwed? Red Hat Enterprise isn't going anywhere. THAT will be the Red Hat when people talk about Red Hat.
Also, the Enterprise licensing fees are tripling? I didn't hear this. Is this true? If it is, then yes, they're being screwed. But the customers CAN bolt...to another Linux distribution.
Also, Fedora is hardly a toy. And it's not really being marketed since it's not being sold.
But you're pissed...and sometimes it's hard to reason with a pissed person.
I mean, come on. People are making it seem like Redhat is dead or that they're abandoning the product. Like if you install RH9 it's a dead product.
Do we have to spell it out for the ones that choose not to think? RH9 is not dead. If you install it, the upgrades are going through Fedora now. I know this because I "upgraded" to Fedora from RH-9 on one box.
I'm wondering now, how is my post in any way a troll? I noticed that someone modded it as a troll.
Are honest questions like my own considered trolls now? It was an honest question about how they get "millions of households" from only 40,000 people.
The statement about the Vietnam body count of the enemy is also accurate...to make it look like the US was winning the war, they often inflated the count in "Stars & Stripes". I'm wondering if the RIAA is doing the same in their "war against piracy" to make it seem like they're winning.
40,000 volunteers....yet the press release title says "Millions of households". And then, the survey itself was fielded by only 5,000 respondents.
I may be a little behind the bell curve here, but how does that add up then to "millions" of households. I can understand maybe millions of files deleted...but I checked and rechecked the release and it plainly states "More than a million households deleted all the digital music files they had saved on their PCs in August".
Or is NPD MusicWatch Digital just a puppet of the RIAA? Spreading around a little FUD and dis-information...kinda like the inflated enemy body counts of Vietnam.
We need to drop the notion that music is a business. It's not a business, it's an art form. Music can be profitable through advertising during its distribution, but only if it becomes popular. Are you an artist? Do you not like this idea? Too damn bad. More and more people agree with me every day. People think music should be legally free and it shall be one day.
Guess you really didn't read my post. Music IS an artform...but an expensive artform. Artists need resources to make the music, buy the instruments, the recording gear etc etc. Where are they going to get the money to do that? To support their art? You're saying they should just try and do that by themselves.
If you had read my post, you would have noticed that I equate the Beatles not being able to record their great albums without the resources to do so if everything they did were given away. Also, as noted by others here, the great classical composers WERE being paid and had sponsors etc etc to write all their music. In the end, the artists need to be given the resources to make their music...how are they going to have the time, the money to do this without being paid for this? If they have to have another job to buy everything, then they also don't have the time to give to their art.
Do you REALLY not want to help musicians out at all? As you said "don't like this idea, too damn bad." Nice attitude.
So where will the new music come from? Will musicians just play and record and mix and produce music for free? So people can just download it for free?
Here's a scenario that could have played out 40 years ago if Napster and Kazaa and downloaded music was around:
John: The kids really dig our songs, we should write some more.
Paul: I'd like to, but I don't have any flippin time. I have to work at me Dad's all day today and into the night. I want to get me a new flat.
John: Me too, my Auntie is gettin on me nerves. I got to get out and make some money for the new guitar I want. Maybe we can save up some money for a disk recorder or something to record our music on. I've got some tunes in me head that I would love to put to music, but since we don't make any money from our songs that are playing night and day on Kazaa, I'm broke.
Paul: Maybe we should just put this music thing on hold for a few years, save up some dough and then try to get a band back together. Or maybe go back to Hamburg and play there. We didn't get any cash but we got laid a lot.
John: Yeah.
Ok, this is a stretch...but what if the Beatles couldn't afford to record anymore? They're first few albums were pretty cheap to make, and they were in and out of the studio in a day. But those are the pop songs. After they got rich, they could take over the whole Abbey Road Studios for the entire night...they could do this because they were rich and could afford it then. Without that, we wouldn't have albums like "Revolver" or "Sgt. Peppers" or the White Album or "Abbey Road".
The artists, the true artists, play music because it's in their blood. They LOVE music...they love to create. But how many bands through the years just gave up at the thresh-hold of greatness because they just couldn't afford to go on...jobs and money and family just got into the way? This will get worse now with P2P getting bigger and bigger.
But just pay them a little...pay the ARTISTS..not the RIAA. The RIAA would be held meaningless and powerless if no one joined a record company and just sold songs on their websites, or sold them through iTunes. I don't believe in hurting the struggling artists out there that need money to continue their art. But then again, if you're a huge band like Metallica that's making millions a year and crying about loosing pennies...(as Dave Grohl said on Dennis Miller about them) FUCK YOU MAN!
Paying for it through a voluntary subscription may or may not work. We'll see. As Dylan said: "These times, they are a changin"
I've been on Atkins now for a while and have lost a little over 50 pounds and still losing. My blood pressure before when I weighed 320 was through the roof, my cholesterol also was in danger levels, and I was borderline type 2 diabetes.
Everything has turned around now. My blood pressure is normal, blood sugar is great, my cholesterol is VERY low (even though I eat real bacon, butter, eggs, steaks along with all my good veggies). Also, I'm no longer hungry all the time, craving my next meal. My moods have come into line...everything is just great.
I do eat carbs...but I still keep them under 20 grams of net carbs a day. It's almost impossible to NOT eat some form of carb. I eat plenty of fiber through flax seeds and certain beans.
KDan, what you heard was just FUD.
Also, NO diet is complete without excercise. I finally got to a point in my life where I MADE time to walk 2 miles a day.
I did this because I was 40 years old and 320 pounds and I was afraid that I wasn't going to live another 2 or 3 years. Life is too short as it is to muck it all up.
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I though it was just a made up, joke country from the Simpsons or something. I never knew it was real!
Wow, learn something every day!
You get more Gerries for your mandering needs.
I had my Gerry mandered once...when I was in the service. A shot cleared it up though.
Yes, I'm thinking that this is finally the beginning of the end of all this non-sense.
Let's hope so. SCO needs to go off into the sunset and never be heard from again. If you own SCO stock, I'd advise dumping and running now. Or perhaps shorting the stock.
That's just it...it's a "refurb" eMac...it's not brand new where as I can build a brand new system that's very fast with 512megs ram and 80 gig HD for $475. AMD 2500+ XP Barton.
Don't get me wrong, I love Macs...but I can save 125 bucks that I can use elsewhere.
And again, it's brand new and not a "refurb".
I'm on the Gentoo IRC channel a lot, getting help and giving help when I can. But when I try to bring up the pitfalls of trusted computing, all I get is a 'huh'? or "nah, it will be ok I'm sure".
It's like everyone has their heads in the sand. When the major BIOS makers are going to trusted only computing, where are we going to run our Linux?
Some people say "just buy a Mac". I'm sorry, if I could afford a Mac I would. But since I can't build a brand new Mac for $475 like I did the machine I'm using now, it's going to be a while. And the only reason I built this so cheaply is because I didn't have to pay a Microsoft tax.
I want a machine I can build myself. An OS that I build myself. When I do that, I'M THE ONE WITH CONTROL! Not MS or Dell or Gateway or Pheonix.
you can't compute anymore. If you can only afford around $500, you have to either go with Microsoft trusted computers or go without.
I would love to have a mac...but I can't see paying for the cheapest one that's STILL 300 over the one I just built from scratch...AND it being much more powerfull.
Sure, the Mac is great and I'd love to have one, I just can't afford one. So your solution to just get a Mac isn't for everyone I'm afraid.
But maybe if everyone DID go with Mac, it would drive down the prices. So everyone...go out and get a Mac, and when they come down in price I'll jump on the bandwagon also!
I mean, they're not a government body. They only have power because they say they have power. If everyone ignored them, there is nothing they can do about it.
It's time to forget them. They are the past. The genie is out of the bottle, and they can't ever put it back in. It's time to look for a new business model I'm afraid. They want to only hold on to what they had and not pursue what is the future.
Remember, they only have power because everyone believes they have power. They were not voted on, we didn't elect them. The President didn't appoint them.
I'm familiar with the book, which is an understatment for me.
This wasn't a poor film, in fact it was one of the best films of last year. Bar none.
The changes were not that bad in my opinion. Gimli's role as comic sidekick was a little much, but not that bad. You're plain wrong about Faramir...especially in the extended version (which I doubt you would watch..and if you DO watch it, why? You hate this movie so much why waste your time?).
The shield surfing thing...hmmm...your argument was that it wasn't in the book? Legolas is right handed in the movie also...but it didn't mention it in the book!!! EGADS!
Theoden was dead on in my book...perhaps you read a different Cliff Notes version of TTT or something.
While it's your opinion that you didnt like the movie. But what would YOU have done? Would you have drawn on all the long bits of the book? Would you have included all the singing and poems? The characters in the book are a little dry. They're dialog wouldn't make it in today's theaters and in fact would sound very hoaky. Remember, these movies were made to make money. They don't spend $400 million on 3 movies for just high art and the fans of the books only. They have to walk the fine line of the fans vs. the general population. The Liv Tyler sequences are in there for this reason.
It's a very rocky path...but I think Jackson deserves every amount of praise he gets on bringing these movies to the screen.
I'm interested in why people make these claims as you do, about how Jackson made and ass of himself. In what way? How did he trash this?
But of course, these books being what they are they can't please all the fans all the time. I'm a long time Ring fan...reading it for the first time in 1975. I've read it now a total of 13 times (all the way through that is, I sometimes pick it up now and then to breeze through it). And I thought Jackson did and excellent job of the movies. In fact, these movies now rank as my all time favorite. I knew he would have to change things, to leave out things. They're movies...movies are always different. I know some people who wanted the books verbatum. 2 people I know wanted 3 movies for the first book alone...so everything, including the singing and Tom B. could be included!
Then again, I know other people that never read the books that loved it...and some that said it was so so. But what amazes me are people like you that just make wild statements like "he trashed it" yet give no reason.
I neither understand why you'd need a screen of thumbnails to all your open apps, nor understand why this is on slashdot.
Just because YOU work in a certain way doesn't mean I have to work in that same way. You can't understand why people would want this, nor you can't fathom why it's on Slashdot? How myopic your world view is.
All of us are different. We all want different things. One person's junk is another person's treasure.
I guess I work a little differently from you. Because all my desktops are always crammed with items that make it a little hard to find the exact window you're looking for.
I've settled on Gentoo as my distro of choice...while it not be as stable as the release versions of Debian..that's only because Debian takes forever (for good reason!).
But portage is truly a thing of beauty.
But not to turn this into a Gentoo advertisment, way to go Debian!
But how are these services going to generate actual profits? From what I understand Apple doesn't make anything from their .99 cent songs. They're mainly looking for people to buy iPods to play those songs on.
If Walmart and Yahoo and Microsoft and "Joe's MP3 Warehouse" are selling music at the same price point, where are the profits coming from? Or is this yet another Internet enterprise that is built on a house of cards?
I hope that all these services offer OPEN standards that can be mixed and matched. For instance, I don't want to buy a song from Walmart that only plays on "Wal-Player" or something.
Whadda ya think sirs?
Do you see Fedora as a direct competitor or modeled similar to GNU/Debian, turning into a totally community driven distro? And if so, how can you justify splitting the community and making them decide between the two if this is your goal for Fedora? In effect, why use Fedora instead of Debian?
I'm an idiot. I admit that now. I'm not a Linux expert.
Yet I got Fedora up and running on my machine without much trouble. Why, unlike the reviewer of this article, I actually READ the documentation.
I also have it running with the Linux-feared ATI 9800 pro. I have java running fine, same with flash.
I really don't know what the reviewers problem is, but I think she needs to read more and learn a little bit more about computers.
I just installed Fedora and have it humming along nicely. So please, base it on Fedora.
Thanks.
(like the Linux community could decided on ONE distro!)
How are the Enterprise product customers being screwed? Red Hat Enterprise isn't going anywhere. THAT will be the Red Hat when people talk about Red Hat.
Also, the Enterprise licensing fees are tripling? I didn't hear this. Is this true? If it is, then yes, they're being screwed. But the customers CAN bolt...to another Linux distribution.
Also, Fedora is hardly a toy. And it's not really being marketed since it's not being sold.
But you're pissed...and sometimes it's hard to reason with a pissed person.
Beatles...with an "a" in their name.
And it was the last song that all 4 recorded as a group...it was part of the 3 song "Golden Slumbers/Carry that weight/The End"
You can find this on their last recorded Album "Abbey Road". It was the last recorded, even though "Let it Be" was released afterwards.
I mean, come on. People are making it seem like Redhat is dead or that they're abandoning the product. Like if you install RH9 it's a dead product.
Do we have to spell it out for the ones that choose not to think? RH9 is not dead. If you install it, the upgrades are going through Fedora now. I know this because I "upgraded" to Fedora from RH-9 on one box.
OR you can choose to go the Enterprise route.
Freedom of choice baby!
Why are some people missing this?
Hi, I'm Troy McClure...you may remember me from such MMORPG's as "Pokemon Online" and "Michael Jackson's World of Weasles"
I'm wondering now, how is my post in any way a troll? I noticed that someone modded it as a troll.
Are honest questions like my own considered trolls now? It was an honest question about how they get "millions of households" from only 40,000 people.
The statement about the Vietnam body count of the enemy is also accurate...to make it look like the US was winning the war, they often inflated the count in "Stars & Stripes". I'm wondering if the RIAA is doing the same in their "war against piracy" to make it seem like they're winning.
40,000 volunteers....yet the press release title says "Millions of households". And then, the survey itself was fielded by only 5,000 respondents.
I may be a little behind the bell curve here, but how does that add up then to "millions" of households. I can understand maybe millions of files deleted...but I checked and rechecked the release and it plainly states "More than a million households deleted all the digital music files they had saved on their PCs in August".
Or is NPD MusicWatch Digital just a puppet of the RIAA? Spreading around a little FUD and dis-information...kinda like the inflated enemy body counts of Vietnam.
We need to drop the notion that music is a business. It's not a business, it's an art form. Music can be profitable through advertising during its distribution, but only if it becomes popular. Are you an artist? Do you not like this idea? Too damn bad. More and more people agree with me every day. People think music should be legally free and it shall be one day.
Guess you really didn't read my post. Music IS an artform...but an expensive artform. Artists need resources to make the music, buy the instruments, the recording gear etc etc. Where are they going to get the money to do that? To support their art? You're saying they should just try and do that by themselves.
If you had read my post, you would have noticed that I equate the Beatles not being able to record their great albums without the resources to do so if everything they did were given away. Also, as noted by others here, the great classical composers WERE being paid and had sponsors etc etc to write all their music. In the end, the artists need to be given the resources to make their music...how are they going to have the time, the money to do this without being paid for this? If they have to have another job to buy everything, then they also don't have the time to give to their art.
Do you REALLY not want to help musicians out at all? As you said "don't like this idea, too damn bad." Nice attitude.
So where will the new music come from? Will musicians just play and record and mix and produce music for free? So people can just download it for free?
Here's a scenario that could have played out 40 years ago if Napster and Kazaa and downloaded music was around:
John: The kids really dig our songs, we should write some more.
Paul: I'd like to, but I don't have any flippin time. I have to work at me Dad's all day today and into the night. I want to get me a new flat.
John: Me too, my Auntie is gettin on me nerves. I got to get out and make some money for the new guitar I want. Maybe we can save up some money for a disk recorder or something to record our music on. I've got some tunes in me head that I would love to put to music, but since we don't make any money from our songs that are playing night and day on Kazaa, I'm broke.
Paul: Maybe we should just put this music thing on hold for a few years, save up some dough and then try to get a band back together. Or maybe go back to Hamburg and play there. We didn't get any cash but we got laid a lot.
John: Yeah.
Ok, this is a stretch...but what if the Beatles couldn't afford to record anymore? They're first few albums were pretty cheap to make, and they were in and out of the studio in a day. But those are the pop songs. After they got rich, they could take over the whole Abbey Road Studios for the entire night...they could do this because they were rich and could afford it then. Without that, we wouldn't have albums like "Revolver" or "Sgt. Peppers" or the White Album or "Abbey Road".
The artists, the true artists, play music because it's in their blood. They LOVE music...they love to create. But how many bands through the years just gave up at the thresh-hold of greatness because they just couldn't afford to go on...jobs and money and family just got into the way? This will get worse now with P2P getting bigger and bigger.
But just pay them a little...pay the ARTISTS..not the RIAA. The RIAA would be held meaningless and powerless if no one joined a record company and just sold songs on their websites, or sold them through iTunes. I don't believe in hurting the struggling artists out there that need money to continue their art. But then again, if you're a huge band like Metallica that's making millions a year and crying about loosing pennies...(as Dave Grohl said on Dennis Miller about them) FUCK YOU MAN!
Paying for it through a voluntary subscription may or may not work. We'll see. As Dylan said: "These times, they are a changin"
This is wrong, as others have said here.
I've been on Atkins now for a while and have lost a little over 50 pounds and still losing. My blood pressure before when I weighed 320 was through the roof, my cholesterol also was in danger levels, and I was borderline type 2 diabetes.
Everything has turned around now. My blood pressure is normal, blood sugar is great, my cholesterol is VERY low (even though I eat real bacon, butter, eggs, steaks along with all my good veggies). Also, I'm no longer hungry all the time, craving my next meal. My moods have come into line...everything is just great.
I do eat carbs...but I still keep them under 20 grams of net carbs a day. It's almost impossible to NOT eat some form of carb. I eat plenty of fiber through flax seeds and certain beans.
KDan, what you heard was just FUD.
Also, NO diet is complete without excercise. I finally got to a point in my life where I MADE time to walk 2 miles a day.
I did this because I was 40 years old and 320 pounds and I was afraid that I wasn't going to live another 2 or 3 years. Life is too short as it is to muck it all up.
I'm going to copywrite the word "is"!
I'd want royalties whenever it's said in a movie or song also.
As in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "We wouldn't get very far in life without saying "is"."
Just a thought...