> You can't expect everyone to be an expert on everything.
And even if they are, you can't expect everyone to spend uncountable amounts of time confirming everything from first principles.
We have the lives we have because we specialize and regulate the specialists. I don't have to do destructive chemical and mechanical testing of my car tires to have confidence they are safe. I don't have to test samples of my morning cereal before sitting down to eat breakfast. I generally expect the probability of my smart phone exploding is sufficiently low I can disregard it.
If everyone had to start checking everything personally, most people would die on the third day or so when they had yet to figure out how to confirm water was safe to drink.
'Cloud services' are the in thing right now, just like we went through outsourcing. Few people in management give a shit about IT, it's an expense. If they can externalize it and not have to deal with as much in house, they will.
So right now I get to bitch and moan that it's a mistake, knowing the only good it does is to let me vent. And if I'm still with the same employer 10-15 years from now, I'll be working on the project to start bringing things back in house because of all the problems cloud services cause us. And I'll get to say, "I was right but nobody listened", and exactly zero people will think anything of it except that I'm an old crank.
Well, if we're not going to fund proper mental health care for them, that'd be more compassionate than leaving them to slowly starve or freeze to death while assaulting each other and engaging in substance abuse.
I think it's more important to spay and neuter the adult population first, though.
> Is our consciousness a divine spark created by some all powerful being or an illusion caused by the random interactions of chemicals and enzymes?
You see a universe with supernatural elements, but there's no evidence for them. I'm going to stick with science over faith - science has a much better track record for modeling reality.
You leave your car unlocked and with the keys in the ignition... you're stupid for taking a risk like that, but if it's stolen the car thieve still needs to be skinned alive and hung outside the city limits as a warning to other thieves.
Having said that... I think there's nothing wrong with a tablet-like system on a fridge door. It's a convenient place in a kitchen. I just don't think the fridge should be doing anything other than providing an appropriate mount point and power.
FWIW, my comments, mostly because they lead to the last statement which I think is an important point (and a point where you are in error due to over caution):
SI - A flat flowchart with easily traceable origins for outcomes. We've already done this.
AI - A 3d flowchart where options on the Z axis can modify the z-origin xy plane. In anything but the simplest systems it quickly becomes nearly impossible for a human to understand how the output was arrived at from the inputs. We've made some fairly basic stuff we're calling this, but it's not quite there yet.
SAI - We have no idea how to accurately define this, because we don't understand it. Can't do it yet, but as we ourselves are an example of it, we know it is possible.
The criterion for artificial intelligence used here appear to clearly differentiate programs that respond dynamically without human assistance from those that don't.
>you'd also like the right to shoot at people driving by your house with the car radios too loud, right?
If I were American, I'd support a constitutional amendment to that effect. It would need to be more general, though. Why can't I ALSO shoot those assholes when they pull up next to me at a light?
>In actual emergencies, you didn't need quarters you'd just dial 0 and make a "collect call" and your parents would get the charge on their phone bill.
I have only the vaguest recollection of receiving a collect call once from my father when he was on a business trip abroad. By the time it was my turn to call home, I had a calling card to reduce the billing rate... and it wasn't long after that (reasonably sized) cell phones became common.
>Actually, the rarity of collect calls showed how non-emergency most of the "emergencies" that people imagine needing a cell phone for are.
I frequently tell my wife... if it's really an emergency, you probably want to dial 911, not me.
> I think we need some clever blend of real name for when it matters, which is rarely, and anonymous.
Imagine you were anonymous unless you were flagged by a large percentage of the public as trolling or spewing vitriol, in which case your name was revealed.
"Be civil, or we'll let your friends and neighbours know what an asshole you are".
Then you just need a special, protected forum for political speech where you can only be outed by court order.
>There was also the program that rounded up a lot of healthy-looking blonde blue-eyed young women to mate with similar-looking SS men, which was positive eugenics (and perhaps a reward for making it into the SS).
My understanding - and I admit I am not a strong student of history - is that this program turned into a brothel system pretty quickly.
>The conference was more political posturing to little effect, otherwise they would have all done a large group video chat instead of expelling 30K tons of CO2 [theguardian.com] in air travel alone.
I'm going to a little 'Hollywood' here, but I really liked the conferencing system in 'Captain America - Winter Soldier'. Sure, it takes up a lot of office space, but the idea of having every delegate projected into a physical space is very appealing.
>We don't want car that do 0-60 in 2 seconds, we want a normal sedan with 500 miles autonomy
Well, I DO want my car to accelerate rapidly enough that the guy behind me at a freshly green light isn't honking for me to get out of his way. I really don't see how an electric vehicle is going fail to meet my standard given how good electric motors are at accelerating from zero.
The range thing... definitely. I can easily go 400km in my gas-guzzler with safety margin in case I end up sitting in bad traffic. While I usually use only a small fraction of that range, it's not terribly uncommon for me to make round trips of that length. An electric has to match that or at least be as convenient to charge up as it is to refuel my current car before I can replace what I have.
In short, yes, I generally agree with you, but I think asking for a 500 mile range is a bit extreme, half that would be competitive. Then again, you also need competitive pricing. My current car cost about 1/6th of the sticker price on an unsubsidized electric, and there's no way I'd save that much in gas over the life of my car, so... yeah, price is important too.
In fact, Facebook has to be the ultimate orgasm-inducer for anyone who wants to track relationships, and that probably includes every level of government, law enforcement and otherwise. You used to have to know somebody to know who their friends are, now there's an API for that.
>People had a really hard life back then. 40 years, if you made it that far, was REALLY old.
I was going to school you on life expectancy after early mortality was removed... but a bit of research shows 40 WAS damn old until a few hundred years into the common era, though late 50s had been not terribly uncommon for a maybe a thousand years by then - if you lived in the right place, of course.
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> You can't expect everyone to be an expert on everything.
And even if they are, you can't expect everyone to spend uncountable amounts of time confirming everything from first principles.
We have the lives we have because we specialize and regulate the specialists. I don't have to do destructive chemical and mechanical testing of my car tires to have confidence they are safe. I don't have to test samples of my morning cereal before sitting down to eat breakfast. I generally expect the probability of my smart phone exploding is sufficiently low I can disregard it.
If everyone had to start checking everything personally, most people would die on the third day or so when they had yet to figure out how to confirm water was safe to drink.
'Cloud services' are the in thing right now, just like we went through outsourcing. Few people in management give a shit about IT, it's an expense. If they can externalize it and not have to deal with as much in house, they will.
So right now I get to bitch and moan that it's a mistake, knowing the only good it does is to let me vent. And if I'm still with the same employer 10-15 years from now, I'll be working on the project to start bringing things back in house because of all the problems cloud services cause us. And I'll get to say, "I was right but nobody listened", and exactly zero people will think anything of it except that I'm an old crank.
Well, if we're not going to fund proper mental health care for them, that'd be more compassionate than leaving them to slowly starve or freeze to death while assaulting each other and engaging in substance abuse.
I think it's more important to spay and neuter the adult population first, though.
> Is our consciousness a divine spark created by some all powerful being or an illusion caused by the random interactions of chemicals and enzymes?
You see a universe with supernatural elements, but there's no evidence for them. I'm going to stick with science over faith - science has a much better track record for modeling reality.
100% his fault for hacking. No excuses.
You leave your car unlocked and with the keys in the ignition... you're stupid for taking a risk like that, but if it's stolen the car thieve still needs to be skinned alive and hung outside the city limits as a warning to other thieves.
Having said that... I think there's nothing wrong with a tablet-like system on a fridge door. It's a convenient place in a kitchen. I just don't think the fridge should be doing anything other than providing an appropriate mount point and power.
FWIW, my comments, mostly because they lead to the last statement which I think is an important point (and a point where you are in error due to over caution):
SI - A flat flowchart with easily traceable origins for outcomes. We've already done this.
AI - A 3d flowchart where options on the Z axis can modify the z-origin xy plane. In anything but the simplest systems it quickly becomes nearly impossible for a human to understand how the output was arrived at from the inputs. We've made some fairly basic stuff we're calling this, but it's not quite there yet.
SAI - We have no idea how to accurately define this, because we don't understand it. Can't do it yet, but as we ourselves are an example of it, we know it is possible.
The criterion for artificial intelligence used here appear to clearly differentiate programs that respond dynamically without human assistance from those that don't.
>Forgot "systems that are self aware"
I don't think so - we can't prove that in humans, so it's not really a useful definition.
Those look like legally workable definitions, (though I imagine I'd ultimately be proven wrong by billions of dollars' worth of tedious court cases).
>you'd also like the right to shoot at people driving by your house with the car radios too loud, right?
If I were American, I'd support a constitutional amendment to that effect. It would need to be more general, though. Why can't I ALSO shoot those assholes when they pull up next to me at a light?
>In actual emergencies, you didn't need quarters you'd just dial 0 and make a "collect call" and your parents would get the charge on their phone bill.
I have only the vaguest recollection of receiving a collect call once from my father when he was on a business trip abroad. By the time it was my turn to call home, I had a calling card to reduce the billing rate... and it wasn't long after that (reasonably sized) cell phones became common.
>Actually, the rarity of collect calls showed how non-emergency most of the "emergencies" that people imagine needing a cell phone for are.
I frequently tell my wife... if it's really an emergency, you probably want to dial 911, not me.
> I think we need some clever blend of real name for when it matters, which is rarely, and anonymous.
Imagine you were anonymous unless you were flagged by a large percentage of the public as trolling or spewing vitriol, in which case your name was revealed.
"Be civil, or we'll let your friends and neighbours know what an asshole you are".
Then you just need a special, protected forum for political speech where you can only be outed by court order.
That'll never happen, because they have the money to insulate themselves from the cost of their own actions, and value their own convenience.
>There was also the program that rounded up a lot of healthy-looking blonde blue-eyed young women to mate with similar-looking SS men, which was positive eugenics (and perhaps a reward for making it into the SS).
My understanding - and I admit I am not a strong student of history - is that this program turned into a brothel system pretty quickly.
>The conference was more political posturing to little effect, otherwise they would have all done a large group video chat instead of expelling 30K tons of CO2 [theguardian.com] in air travel alone.
I'm going to a little 'Hollywood' here, but I really liked the conferencing system in 'Captain America - Winter Soldier'. Sure, it takes up a lot of office space, but the idea of having every delegate projected into a physical space is very appealing.
>Spend all the money you want. As long as it doesn't come out of the US Treasury we're all good.
Yep, you wouldn't want to do anything to better your world with that money, it's more important to give tax breaks to the ultra-rich.
Better cut back on health care, too, just to be sure.
>We don't want car that do 0-60 in 2 seconds, we want a normal sedan with 500 miles autonomy
Well, I DO want my car to accelerate rapidly enough that the guy behind me at a freshly green light isn't honking for me to get out of his way. I really don't see how an electric vehicle is going fail to meet my standard given how good electric motors are at accelerating from zero.
The range thing... definitely. I can easily go 400km in my gas-guzzler with safety margin in case I end up sitting in bad traffic. While I usually use only a small fraction of that range, it's not terribly uncommon for me to make round trips of that length. An electric has to match that or at least be as convenient to charge up as it is to refuel my current car before I can replace what I have.
In short, yes, I generally agree with you, but I think asking for a 500 mile range is a bit extreme, half that would be competitive. Then again, you also need competitive pricing. My current car cost about 1/6th of the sticker price on an unsubsidized electric, and there's no way I'd save that much in gas over the life of my car, so... yeah, price is important too.
>So the NSA uses Facebook to spy
In fact, Facebook has to be the ultimate orgasm-inducer for anyone who wants to track relationships, and that probably includes every level of government, law enforcement and otherwise. You used to have to know somebody to know who their friends are, now there's an API for that.
>Check the context. " If Bitcoin succeeds "...
If I shit gold I'd be rich.
>Can you explain why you believe 100k-500k is "almost certain"?
Look at the overall message - you're responding to the post of a Bitcoin booster, which by definition means they're not particularly rational.
For one thing, they think Bitcoin's workable at all as a currency.
>I'm a different man than I was 6 months ago when I fucked your best friend.
I can't forgive you; the dog still isn't right.
>Students of history are condemned to watch while the ignorant repeat it.
I like this variation of the quote very much.
Luckily there simply isn't enough money in Bitcoin to result in any political will to bail this greedy fools out.
In the meantime, some of the big players will get richer and just enough of the fools will time it right to inspire others.
>People had a really hard life back then. 40 years, if you made it that far, was REALLY old.
I was going to school you on life expectancy after early mortality was removed... but a bit of research shows 40 WAS damn old until a few hundred years into the common era, though late 50s had been not terribly uncommon for a maybe a thousand years by then - if you lived in the right place, of course.
You're a credulous and ignorant fool.
I probably shouldn't have bothered posting that... not because it's mean, but because you're not worth the time.
Be honoured I took the time to point it out to you. You've wasted the time of someone whose time is much more valuable than yours.