I can review the code, it is all there in the open.
There speaks someone who's never actually reviewed any code. As we learned on Slashdot the other day Android will take 5 hours just to compile on a dual quad-core 2+GHz workstation. How long do you imagine it would take you to read the source, let alone understand it, let alone find the malicious bit.
I forwarded it to my mother. She couldn't make head nor tail of it. She was somewhat worried by the initial warning. WARNING: ROOTING THE HTC HERO (CDMA) WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.
Then she didn't understand step 1: You will need ADB on the computer to root the HTC Hero (CDMA). Follow the Android SDK guide, to get the ADB shell on the computer.
Or step 2: Download the rageinthecage-arm5 & Superuser packages: rageagainstthecage-arm5 package: Download md5: bfa28d457b54508326ab55d11399c586 Superuser package: Download md5: 43d9a40b63e916635d5ad7ca32433fab
She was slightly concerned it was something to do with caged-wrestling. And she couldn't understand what all the alphabeti-spaghetti was for.
She gave up then, noticing that there were many more steps, none of which made any sense. I told her you'd said it was easy. And now she's beginning to lose faith in the people I'm getting advice from.
Please turn in your geek card if you have to have some stranger fix your mom's phone for her. Thanks.
Android: The platform you need to be a geek to update the OS. Are they going to put that in the adverts?
My wife has a Galaxy S, and she has never installed or used any of the apps, nor written an email (except via gmail via browser).
You can't generalise from that. Whilst I think there a a lot of Android phones sold to people who don't do those things, in my experience iPhone users usually do.
Lots of Androids are sold because they are "free" with a contract. People spending the extra to get an iPhone usually do so because they want to run these apps they've been hearing about.
Now the iPhone GS is free with a contract, that might change for the future.
My wife has never upgraded her HTC Aria to the current OS, while I have. Why hasn't she??? THERE WAS NO NEED TO. Jeez people, get over it. Why did I upgrade?? Because I'm a geek and wanted to. I also had a memory issue with the HTC email program, and I was hoping it would resolve it, which it did. My wife doesn't use her HTC for email. In fact, she hardly uses it for anything except text message, phone calls, and the odd games here and there. Why the hell would she want to upgrade???
Had the boot been on the other foot, and it had been iPhone that wasn't getting OS updates, you wouldn't have accepted that argument.
Yes, you have to "root" your phone, yes it isn't "supported" by HTC or Sprint, but so freakin what.
OK, I've just told my mother that all she has to do is root her phone and download and install Cyanogenmod. I told her it probably makes more sense for her to install the Stable Mod rather than the Experimental or Nightly mod. She thought I was talking about horses, bless her.
After I'd talked her through unzipping, and locating the downloaded folder on her computer, she said that the only file she could see was "boot period image" And when she clicked on that a window came up saying "no mountable file systems".
To be honest, she's a little confused and so am I. I told her the guys on Slashdot think anyone can do this stuff.
To be honest I've been spoiled with the fact that the updates on my iPhone just arrive automatically , the day of release, the next time I sync.
Unless you were dumb enough to get a phone that was tightly locked down with a custom UI, in which case it kind of serves you right.
Ah, a fine display of the fraternal feelings amongst the Android community. See, they're not just a set of guttersnipes against iPhone users. They'll also call you names if you bought a different model of Android phone that they don't approve of.
So what your saying is that Android is a good phone for hobbyists. People who get enjoyment out of tinkering with and maintaining their mobile phone. People who are prepared to wait until some other hobbyists port the latest OS version to their phone.
People who want to use their mobile phones and have them just work, with a long period of automatic updates to the latest and greatest OS version are better of with an iPhone.
As for the iPhone 2G, the graph clearly does not indicate that it has current support updates. This is NOT a timeline, it is a bar graph, so read it appropriately. The support was terminated shortly after the second year, which was early 2010. It is now late 2011 - so support updates for it have been missing for over a year and a half.
I presume you mean the iPhone 3G as there wasn't a 2G. It got automatically updates all the way to iOS 4.2.1 which was released November 22, 2010 That's less than a year ago, not more than a year and a half.
Depending on what carrier your on, and what country you're in, it might arrive at different times, via different processes. And this is a phone only 18 months old. iPhone updates all arrive the same day of release, and carry on for at least 3 years.
So what you're saying is that the pinball table launcher simulation would be close enough, if currently under patent, to block slide-to-unlock on both iPhone and Android.
But given that that first human equivalent knows the laws of robotics, it will build those laws into the computers controlling the robots it designs, and so on. In humans, children may rebel against their parents. Thinking that would happen with machines is just anthropomorphism. And sci-fi authors looking for an interesting story.
Car analogy: should whoever first came up with a circular steering wheel be getting royalties from anyone having the same model of steering input?
Well it certainly wasn't the only design, nor was it obvious. It requires the invention of rack and pinion steering gear. In the early days a tiller was used quite a lot. So yes, it was certainly a suitable design for a patent. The inventor of rack and pinion deserved a period of monopoly.
Thats true. But I don't think it's anything new. They never used to type on typewriters either. I dare say they never got ink on their hands from ledgers and quill pens either.
To be fair, it would be a massive waste of their time to be programming the computer on their desk. Their job is something other than that.
And the most powerful CEOs probably couldn't deal with the volume of email themselves. Their secretary acts a filter and a delegate for those emails a CEO doesn't need to see. Heck your average office jockey sometimes becomes overwhelmed with the quantity of emails in their inbox. Especially before and after vacation.
But I think it's more than that. I think many think rightly or wrongly that keeping a certain distance from day-to-day detail gives them more perspective on more strategic issues, and more time to network and do business deals (and consume first class champers of course).
The first iPhone was unveiled by former Apple CEO Steve Jobs on January 9, 2007 and released on June 29, 2007 seems slide to unlock was available for windows mobile 2 months before the first iphone was released
Release date has precisely nothing to do with it. Neither morally, nor as far as patents are concerned. Who copied is based on who showed it first, not who sold it first. (not that I imagine either of the things you link to were ever sold or shipped on a sold device.)
As you point out, slide to unlock was demonstrated Jan 2007. Both the things you link to date from after that demo, and were obviously me-too copies. They are not prior art by any stretch of the imagination.
Why are you trying so hard to be right, but your works are consistently wrong?
I'm not trying hard to be right. I just tell the truth. It's really easy for me to be right that way.
After changing her oil, she got a flat tire. Sure, they both involved the same car, but the cause/effect relationship simply is not there.
At no stage did I say that the problem with your GFs Mac Pro must be the memory. Only that it's the first thing worth checking. I repeat, because it's the last thing that you changed, and because it costs you nothing to do so.
I'll give you two tales. One a computer one. When I was doing computer support many years ago, a client complained that her computer stopped working about 2 o'clock in the afternoon. She'd had visits before and no one had found out the problem. Thing was, no one had visited her at 2pm. turned out the sun came through the window at the right angle to hit the computer, and it pushed it over the edge into overheating.
Second is a car one. My first car, I replaced the HT leads. Several months later, the car started mis-firing, and then broke down completely. For sure that could be faulty HT leads. But before opening the hood, no one could have predicted the HT leads weren't faulty. They were just longer than the old ones, and one of them had found it's way into the fan, which had gradually sliced through the lead.
Lessons: The causes of problems are not always obvious, especially overheating. And it is worth checking the last component you fitted, even if you can't imagine the specific way it causes the fault.
When I drew the analogy with the car I specifically specified the engine, because that's the reasonable equivalent. Third party fuel injectors is a good equivalent. Talking about tires is like if you'd reported a fault without the mouse or monitor. It's a far distant component. It's silly.
And yet again I'll point out I never said you shouldn't use third party parts. And indeed for both computers and cars I use third party parts. Why the fuck won't you just accept I gave you honest and well intentioned advice, rather than trying to start a fight?
Right now, it's possible for someone to work hard, and put their money into investments that will earn future money. (Although, there are no guarantees)
Ah, that's so pre-2008 thinking. The number of private investors that made money out of investments was balanced by a similar number who made losses. The stock-market as a whole rose during most of the 19th and 20th century. but the profits were always mostly taken by the industry itself and those with insider information.
With few exceptions, those that made themselves newly-wealthy did so by creating their own businesses, or working in lucrative fields. Not by investing.
Just look at the game monopoly. With some luck, and some skill, you can own the "world".
The difference between Monopoly and the real world is that every Monopoly player starts off equal at the start. In the real world it's those with inherited wealth that own the property and live off the rents.
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I can't say that I do, no. Why, what did you have in mind?
I can review the code, it is all there in the open.
There speaks someone who's never actually reviewed any code. As we learned on Slashdot the other day Android will take 5 hours just to compile on a dual quad-core 2+GHz workstation. How long do you imagine it would take you to read the source, let alone understand it, let alone find the malicious bit.
Easy Step by Step instructions.
I forwarded it to my mother. She couldn't make head nor tail of it. She was somewhat worried by the initial warning.
WARNING: ROOTING THE HTC HERO (CDMA) WILL VOID THE WARRANTY.
Then she didn't understand step 1:
You will need ADB on the computer to root the HTC Hero (CDMA). Follow the Android SDK guide, to get the ADB shell on the computer.
Or step 2:
Download the rageinthecage-arm5 & Superuser packages:
rageagainstthecage-arm5 package: Download
md5: bfa28d457b54508326ab55d11399c586
Superuser package: Download
md5: 43d9a40b63e916635d5ad7ca32433fab
She was slightly concerned it was something to do with caged-wrestling. And she couldn't understand what all the alphabeti-spaghetti was for.
She gave up then, noticing that there were many more steps, none of which made any sense. I told her you'd said it was easy. And now she's beginning to lose faith in the people I'm getting advice from.
Please turn in your geek card if you have to have some stranger fix your mom's phone for her. Thanks.
Android: The platform you need to be a geek to update the OS. Are they going to put that in the adverts?
SO you can only compare phones running android individually, and not group them as 'Android'.
So iPhone does have the largest market share then?
My wife has a Galaxy S, and she has never installed or used any of the apps, nor written an email (except via gmail via browser).
You can't generalise from that. Whilst I think there a a lot of Android phones sold to people who don't do those things, in my experience iPhone users usually do.
Lots of Androids are sold because they are "free" with a contract. People spending the extra to get an iPhone usually do so because they want to run these apps they've been hearing about.
Now the iPhone GS is free with a contract, that might change for the future.
My wife has never upgraded her HTC Aria to the current OS, while I have. Why hasn't she??? THERE WAS NO NEED TO. Jeez people, get over it. Why did I upgrade?? Because I'm a geek and wanted to. I also had a memory issue with the HTC email program, and I was hoping it would resolve it, which it did. My wife doesn't use her HTC for email. In fact, she hardly uses it for anything except text message, phone calls, and the odd games here and there. Why the hell would she want to upgrade???
Had the boot been on the other foot, and it had been iPhone that wasn't getting OS updates, you wouldn't have accepted that argument.
Last time I checked people were buying more Androids than iPhones.
Android is an OS, iPhone is a model of phone. Now lets see what happens if we compare like with like:
More people buy iPhones than buy any model of phone that ships with Andoid.
More people buy iOS devices than Android devices.
What feature is it that your mother needs from the latest Android OS that her current phone lacks?
That's what I asked her. I said "Mom, you do realise Android isn't getting any better?" But she want's it anyway. What's a son to do?
Yes, you have to "root" your phone, yes it isn't "supported" by HTC or Sprint, but so freakin what.
OK, I've just told my mother that all she has to do is root her phone and download and install Cyanogenmod. I told her it probably makes more sense for her to install the Stable Mod rather than the Experimental or Nightly mod. She thought I was talking about horses, bless her.
After I'd talked her through unzipping, and locating the downloaded folder on her computer, she said that the only file she could see was "boot period image" And when she clicked on that a window came up saying "no mountable file systems".
To be honest, she's a little confused and so am I. I told her the guys on Slashdot think anyone can do this stuff.
To be honest I've been spoiled with the fact that the updates on my iPhone just arrive automatically , the day of release, the next time I sync.
Perhaps I can I give her your telephone number?
Unless you were dumb enough to get a phone that was tightly locked down with a custom UI, in which case it kind of serves you right.
Ah, a fine display of the fraternal feelings amongst the Android community. See, they're not just a set of guttersnipes against iPhone users. They'll also call you names if you bought a different model of Android phone that they don't approve of.
So what your saying is that Android is a good phone for hobbyists. People who get enjoyment out of tinkering with and maintaining their mobile phone. People who are prepared to wait until some other hobbyists port the latest OS version to their phone.
People who want to use their mobile phones and have them just work, with a long period of automatic updates to the latest and greatest OS version are better of with an iPhone.
As for the iPhone 2G, the graph clearly does not indicate that it has current support updates. This is NOT a timeline, it is a bar graph, so read it appropriately. The support was terminated shortly after the second year, which was early 2010. It is now late 2011 - so support updates for it have been missing for over a year and a half.
I presume you mean the iPhone 3G as there wasn't a 2G. It got automatically updates all the way to iOS 4.2.1 which was released November 22, 2010 That's less than a year ago, not more than a year and a half.
I'm so confused. First of all, this doesn't list the Samsung Galaxy, which has stayed updated.
Looking for information on the Samsung Galaxy S, it doesn't seem to be that straight forward, according to Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S
Depending on what carrier your on, and what country you're in, it might arrive at different times, via different processes. And this is a phone only 18 months old. iPhone updates all arrive the same day of release, and carry on for at least 3 years.
Because the PC was designed in the early days of micro-computers and IBM made a couple of mistakes.
So what you're saying is that the pinball table launcher simulation would be close enough, if currently under patent, to block slide-to-unlock on both iPhone and Android.
Could post again in English please. Thanks.
It requires a button press to activate it. And there's no visual feedback of the gesture as described in the patent.
But given that that first human equivalent knows the laws of robotics, it will build those laws into the computers controlling the robots it designs, and so on. In humans, children may rebel against their parents. Thinking that would happen with machines is just anthropomorphism. And sci-fi authors looking for an interesting story.
You're a cretin, therefore your recollection is irrelevant.
Car analogy: should whoever first came up with a circular steering wheel be getting royalties from anyone having the same model of steering input?
Well it certainly wasn't the only design, nor was it obvious. It requires the invention of rack and pinion steering gear. In the early days a tiller was used quite a lot. So yes, it was certainly a suitable design for a patent. The inventor of rack and pinion deserved a period of monopoly.
Thats true. But I don't think it's anything new. They never used to type on typewriters either. I dare say they never got ink on their hands from ledgers and quill pens either.
To be fair, it would be a massive waste of their time to be programming the computer on their desk. Their job is something other than that.
And the most powerful CEOs probably couldn't deal with the volume of email themselves. Their secretary acts a filter and a delegate for those emails a CEO doesn't need to see. Heck your average office jockey sometimes becomes overwhelmed with the quantity of emails in their inbox. Especially before and after vacation.
But I think it's more than that. I think many think rightly or wrongly that keeping a certain distance from day-to-day detail gives them more perspective on more strategic issues, and more time to network and do business deals (and consume first class champers of course).
The first iPhone was unveiled by former Apple CEO Steve Jobs on January 9, 2007 and released on June 29, 2007 seems slide to unlock was available for windows mobile 2 months before the first iphone was released
Release date has precisely nothing to do with it. Neither morally, nor as far as patents are concerned. Who copied is based on who showed it first, not who sold it first. (not that I imagine either of the things you link to were ever sold or shipped on a sold device.)
As you point out, slide to unlock was demonstrated Jan 2007. Both the things you link to date from after that demo, and were obviously me-too copies. They are not prior art by any stretch of the imagination.
The fact that you found a page with the right memory does not take away the fact that when I chose a model it gave the wrong memory. Specifically this:
http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=Mac%20Pro%20Quad-Core%20MC250LL%2FA%20Mid%202010&Cat=RAM
Why are you trying so hard to be right, but your works are consistently wrong?
I'm not trying hard to be right. I just tell the truth. It's really easy for me to be right that way.
After changing her oil, she got a flat tire. Sure, they both involved the same car, but the cause/effect relationship simply is not there.
At no stage did I say that the problem with your GFs Mac Pro must be the memory. Only that it's the first thing worth checking. I repeat, because it's the last thing that you changed, and because it costs you nothing to do so.
I'll give you two tales. One a computer one. When I was doing computer support many years ago, a client complained that her computer stopped working about 2 o'clock in the afternoon. She'd had visits before and no one had found out the problem. Thing was, no one had visited her at 2pm. turned out the sun came through the window at the right angle to hit the computer, and it pushed it over the edge into overheating.
Second is a car one. My first car, I replaced the HT leads. Several months later, the car started mis-firing, and then broke down completely. For sure that could be faulty HT leads. But before opening the hood, no one could have predicted the HT leads weren't faulty. They were just longer than the old ones, and one of them had found it's way into the fan, which had gradually sliced through the lead.
Lessons: The causes of problems are not always obvious, especially overheating. And it is worth checking the last component you fitted, even if you can't imagine the specific way it causes the fault.
When I drew the analogy with the car I specifically specified the engine, because that's the reasonable equivalent. Third party fuel injectors is a good equivalent. Talking about tires is like if you'd reported a fault without the mouse or monitor. It's a far distant component. It's silly.
And yet again I'll point out I never said you shouldn't use third party parts. And indeed for both computers and cars I use third party parts. Why the fuck won't you just accept I gave you honest and well intentioned advice, rather than trying to start a fight?
The switch to Intel created more opportunity for the Mac platform than less, so overall that was a win.
They were all wins. But not one of them came about because it's what the existing customers wanted.
Right now, it's possible for someone to work hard, and put their money into investments that will earn future money. (Although, there are no guarantees)
Ah, that's so pre-2008 thinking. The number of private investors that made money out of investments was balanced by a similar number who made losses. The stock-market as a whole rose during most of the 19th and 20th century. but the profits were always mostly taken by the industry itself and those with insider information.
With few exceptions, those that made themselves newly-wealthy did so by creating their own businesses, or working in lucrative fields. Not by investing.
Just look at the game monopoly. With some luck, and some skill, you can own the "world".
The difference between Monopoly and the real world is that every Monopoly player starts off equal at the start. In the real world it's those with inherited wealth that own the property and live off the rents.