Unless DLLs on Windows aren't "shared libraries" in the same way *.so files are on *nix[1], I think we can safely assume that "every app could load up its own copy" could still imply code sharing. And even if code weren't being shared between instances, hardware is much cheaper than programmers.
[1] A quick Google reveals that they aren't quite the same, but my point stands.
I'm won't disagree that New York, Boston, SF, etc. are great places, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that the only places that you can find the benefits you bullet-pointed are a handful of cities on either coast. It's not as if the whole rest of the country falls under the "rural" umbrella. I'm most familiar with the midwest, and you might be surprised to hear that we have "real" cities here too, with the benefit of lower cost of living in a lot of places, and also close proximity to a lot of natural beauty.
I'd just like to point out that removing the "Next." from your previous post could also be construed as backpedaling; although I'd rather believe it was a product of your positive response to constructive criticism.
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torvalds wrote a kernel.
redhat/debian/mandrake/slackware/... took that kernel, the gnu software, and other stuff (notably XFree) and created their own distributions
Well now we're just getting pedantic, but one can refer to an operating system without having to refer to a specific distribution. Linus didn't create a distribution, per se, but the key GNU utilities were the first programs to run on the linux kernel. I believe much of the early development consisted of "compile something (likely a GNU utility)... oops, need to implement that system call... repeat".
Just because Linus didn't stamp a logo on it and call it a distribution doesn't negate the fact that he built a system out of his kernel and GNU utilities.
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They tried to develop a complete system for years, and made relatively little progress. Torvalds saved the day.
Little progress? If you're running linux, chances are a huge proportion of the software on your system is GNU or derived from GNU software. Torvalds wrote a kernel and surrounded it with a GNU system.
NEWS FLASH!
All black market activities fund terrorism in one way or another. That is how the black market works. Alcohol sales funded terrorism in the US during prohibition. Cocaine, stolen art, fake Levi jeans, ivory, all contribute to terrorism.
Sorry, I fail to see the connection to terrorism at all. In most (all?) cases, the "black" market only differs from the "legitimate" market in that it's against some law. Are you trying to say that anything illegal is also terrorist by default?
I like beer. If I were alive during prohibition I would still have been brewing my own. Let's stretch it and say I made enough extra to trade/sell to a few people. Is this "black market"? Is it, then, "funding terrorism"? Or even apply the same scenario to marijuana today.
x "is used to fund terrorism" isn't really an effective argument for more controls over x. It is a better argument for making x freely available so that there will be no black market for it.
I completely agree. It's too bad that this argument is now being used to manipulate us in a million different ways ("smoking pot funds terrorism" commercials, anybody?).
Please, won't somebody create something new?... Don't give me "well, write it yourself," because I don't have the skill level, but more importantly, it's a ridiculous attitude to have to start with. Besides, if you want a graphic designer, I'm your man. Linux apps are always sorely lacking in the aesthetics department.
Good suggestions... but I WILL give you the "well, do it yourself"; in some ways, at least. You may lack the skills to WRITE the "killer app", but as you say, graphic designers can make sorely needed contributions. I suggest that for your part you can go check out SourceForge's Help Wanted System. I see there are currently 43 requests for graphic design work, and I'm sure a huge amount of other projects would eagerly accept design help.
Maybe you (and other people with art skills) would be willing to put an end to the hideous "programmer art" that gets put into open source apps?
I for one really enjoy playing on a public server. It's fun at home, but on a public server you're sort of competing/participating with others. And the bones files you come across from others makes it interesting also.
FWIW, I play on nethack.alt.org and the website lists all kinds of cool statistics and rankings.
NetHack is cool because you can play it at work... nobody will notice you're playing a game, it just looks like ascii/binary garbage..:)
Sort of, unless somebody's looking over your shoulder for any length of time. While going to school I had a job doing web development for an administrative department, and when I had little to do I would fool around with nethack, MUDs, etc.
One time I got pretty engrossed with a game of nethack and the lady who sat across from me said "hey, whatcha workin' on?". I mumbled something about "graphical file browser" or something and she didn't say anything else. A lot of the time I had a terminal open so it wasn't THAT suspicious, but I think maybe she suspected that it was some kind of maze on the screen. She was cool, so I wasn't too worried, but it was a reminder for me to keep the nethack under control (at work, anyway).
I can quit nethack any time I want... that's what I keep telling myself.
Besides, why do your daemons need monitoring? If they stop running or need restarting, that's a bug and should be fixed.
That's true. But what if you're running a (usually) stable daemon that you can't afford to have go down? Wouldn't it be better to have it restarted, and then you can look into fixing the bug later (instead of suffering downtime)? I guess it's a kludgy way to have a bit of assurance.
Actually, I'm glad I noticed this thread because I'm using somebody's apparently unstable daemon in a little project of mine, and I can't really afford to spend all kinds of time debugging somebody's (uncommented!!) code when all I really need is for it to not go down for too long. So this may just work for me.
Elegant? No. But it works in a bind (no pun intended).
What probably will happen is that our government will waste a lot more of our tax money and make a bunch of stupid decisions that nobody really cares about.
Or the alternative is to have powerful corporations (whose tentacles blur nicely into government anyway) waste a lot of money and make a bunch of stupid decisions that nobody really cares about. It's win-win!
This will result in money being spent to do useful things with space travel. People will be able to put up sattelites, space tourism will begin and eventually flourish. Someone might set up a hotel type space station.
Useful, indeed.
Hell, we've choked our planet with sprawl and yuppie wasteland, why not expand out into space? Moon malls, space hotels, interplanetary pleasure cruises! Get your Sport Utility Pod now (careful, they tend to roll over upon re-entry)! Gotta get those kids to soccer practice on Sports Orbiter #3, after all.
I'm confused by these schemes to "boost the economy" that have no real bearing on our needs. Need to keep the wheels spinning, though, even if we're not getting anywhere. Like a dog chasing its tail. Make sure things are disposable, or quickly become obsolete or new jobs won't be created and the economy will crumble!
I don't agree with creating a law that says any vehicle should get X milege per gallon. I think supply and demand will take care of that for us.
On one hand I agree with you that ideally there shouldn't be a law dictating mileage, though I'm not sure that "the market" automatically does what's best for us, as somebody argued pretty convincingly above.
Also, when we talk about supply and demand taking care of things, I think we often overlook the fact that we have less of a free market than some would like to believe. Our "free market" is propped up and prodded in various ways that reflect certain priorities that I necessarily agree with, nor do I think they're in our best interests in the long run. For example, I think that if "the market" took into account anything beyond short-term gain the cost of personal automobiles and their use would more accuratly reflect the real cost to our society.
Anyway, I thing Capsaicin's post that I linked expresses this quite clearly.
I'm not one to jump all over the editors for posting dupes; I can sympathize with the amount of stuff they probably wade through. But over the last couple weeks, my sympathy is waning.
Could it be that hard to at least glance through each day's stories so you know when dupes come in? If you did, wouldn't a "build your own weather baloon" story stand out in your mind at all? If I'm missing something here, please point it out to me.
On the side of reason, if you see a dupe, big deal. So don't read it the second time. It's like deleting spam; no reason to get worked up over it.... except sometimes it gets friggin' ridiculous.
Right on. As many slashdotters would undoubtedly agree, nethack is still one of the best games around. Not in terms of fancy eye-exploding graphics, but in the sense that it's amazingly deep; before you know it, three years will have gone by and your GPA/social life/work is in the shitter. Its roots extend 15+ years back, and it runs on everything. You can even get fancy GUI interfaces for it.
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It is natural for data to randomly be scrambled due to everything from power surges to cosmic radiation. At the rate at which data is transmitted over our world-wide Internet, surely we should have seen some form of natural program evolution, if even on a small scale.
I'd like to introduce you to my friend, TCP Checksum. I don't think it's very probable that you'd see much 'evolution' based on random scrambling, since we're careful to guard against it. However, you should look into artificial life and genetic algorithms... now even atheists can play god!
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well... now that i've burned karma for no apparent reason...
No problem, you're a Christian, you don't buy into that karma stuff anyway, right?
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Unless DLLs on Windows aren't "shared libraries" in the same way *.so files are on *nix[1], I think we can safely assume that "every app could load up its own copy" could still imply code sharing. And even if code weren't being shared between instances, hardware is much cheaper than programmers.
[1] A quick Google reveals that they aren't quite the same, but my point stands.
Well said.
At this point, you'd have to kill me before I would agree to work a fixed 40 hour/week schedule.Are postmortem employment agreements legally binding?
I'm won't disagree that New York, Boston, SF, etc. are great places, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that the only places that you can find the benefits you bullet-pointed are a handful of cities on either coast. It's not as if the whole rest of the country falls under the "rural" umbrella. I'm most familiar with the midwest, and you might be surprised to hear that we have "real" cities here too, with the benefit of lower cost of living in a lot of places, and also close proximity to a lot of natural beauty.
I'd just like to point out that removing the "Next." from your previous post could also be construed as backpedaling; although I'd rather believe it was a product of your positive response to constructive criticism.
Not to be overly picky, but having a system pick a different word from a list hardly comprises a Turing test.
Uh, remember the last presidential election? Yeah, voting is the answer. Pfffft!
Well now we're just getting pedantic, but one can refer to an operating system without having to refer to a specific distribution. Linus didn't create a distribution, per se, but the key GNU utilities were the first programs to run on the linux kernel. I believe much of the early development consisted of "compile something (likely a GNU utility)... oops, need to implement that system call... repeat".
Just because Linus didn't stamp a logo on it and call it a distribution doesn't negate the fact that he built a system out of his kernel and GNU utilities.
Little progress? If you're running linux, chances are a huge proportion of the software on your system is GNU or derived from GNU software. Torvalds wrote a kernel and surrounded it with a GNU system.
Sorry, I fail to see the connection to terrorism at all. In most (all?) cases, the "black" market only differs from the "legitimate" market in that it's against some law. Are you trying to say that anything illegal is also terrorist by default?
I like beer. If I were alive during prohibition I would still have been brewing my own. Let's stretch it and say I made enough extra to trade/sell to a few people. Is this "black market"? Is it, then, "funding terrorism"? Or even apply the same scenario to marijuana today.
x "is used to fund terrorism" isn't really an effective argument for more controls over x. It is a better argument for making x freely available so that there will be no black market for it.
I completely agree. It's too bad that this argument is now being used to manipulate us in a million different ways ("smoking pot funds terrorism" commercials, anybody?).
Good suggestions... but I WILL give you the "well, do it yourself"; in some ways, at least. You may lack the skills to WRITE the "killer app", but as you say, graphic designers can make sorely needed contributions. I suggest that for your part you can go check out SourceForge's Help Wanted System. I see there are currently 43 requests for graphic design work, and I'm sure a huge amount of other projects would eagerly accept design help.
Maybe you (and other people with art skills) would be willing to put an end to the hideous "programmer art" that gets put into open source apps?
I for one really enjoy playing on a public server. It's fun at home, but on a public server you're sort of competing/participating with others. And the bones files you come across from others makes it interesting also.
FWIW, I play on nethack.alt.org and the website lists all kinds of cool statistics and rankings.
Sort of, unless somebody's looking over your shoulder for any length of time. While going to school I had a job doing web development for an administrative department, and when I had little to do I would fool around with nethack, MUDs, etc.
One time I got pretty engrossed with a game of nethack and the lady who sat across from me said "hey, whatcha workin' on?". I mumbled something about "graphical file browser" or something and she didn't say anything else. A lot of the time I had a terminal open so it wasn't THAT suspicious, but I think maybe she suspected that it was some kind of maze on the screen. She was cool, so I wasn't too worried, but it was a reminder for me to keep the nethack under control (at work, anyway).
I can quit nethack any time I want... that's what I keep telling myself.
That's true. But what if you're running a (usually) stable daemon that you can't afford to have go down? Wouldn't it be better to have it restarted, and then you can look into fixing the bug later (instead of suffering downtime)? I guess it's a kludgy way to have a bit of assurance.
Actually, I'm glad I noticed this thread because I'm using somebody's apparently unstable daemon in a little project of mine, and I can't really afford to spend all kinds of time debugging somebody's (uncommented!!) code when all I really need is for it to not go down for too long. So this may just work for me.
Elegant? No. But it works in a bind (no pun intended).
Or the alternative is to have powerful corporations (whose tentacles blur nicely into government anyway) waste a lot of money and make a bunch of stupid decisions that nobody really cares about. It's win-win!
This will result in money being spent to do useful things with space travel. People will be able to put up sattelites, space tourism will begin and eventually flourish. Someone might set up a hotel type space station.
Useful, indeed.
Hell, we've choked our planet with sprawl and yuppie wasteland, why not expand out into space? Moon malls, space hotels, interplanetary pleasure cruises! Get your Sport Utility Pod now (careful, they tend to roll over upon re-entry)! Gotta get those kids to soccer practice on Sports Orbiter #3, after all.
I'm confused by these schemes to "boost the economy" that have no real bearing on our needs. Need to keep the wheels spinning, though, even if we're not getting anywhere. Like a dog chasing its tail. Make sure things are disposable, or quickly become obsolete or new jobs won't be created and the economy will crumble!
On one hand I agree with you that ideally there shouldn't be a law dictating mileage, though I'm not sure that "the market" automatically does what's best for us, as somebody argued pretty convincingly above.
Also, when we talk about supply and demand taking care of things, I think we often overlook the fact that we have less of a free market than some would like to believe. Our "free market" is propped up and prodded in various ways that reflect certain priorities that I necessarily agree with, nor do I think they're in our best interests in the long run. For example, I think that if "the market" took into account anything beyond short-term gain the cost of personal automobiles and their use would more accuratly reflect the real cost to our society.
Anyway, I thing Capsaicin's post that I linked expresses this quite clearly.
Could it be that hard to at least glance through each day's stories so you know when dupes come in? If you did, wouldn't a "build your own weather baloon" story stand out in your mind at all? If I'm missing something here, please point it out to me.
On the side of reason, if you see a dupe, big deal. So don't read it the second time. It's like deleting spam; no reason to get worked up over it.... except sometimes it gets friggin' ridiculous.
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I'd like to introduce you to my friend, TCP Checksum. I don't think it's very probable that you'd see much 'evolution' based on random scrambling, since we're careful to guard against it. However, you should look into artificial life and genetic algorithms... now even atheists can play god!
No problem, you're a Christian, you don't buy into that karma stuff anyway, right?