If you think that I meant 1:1 supervision, you, sir, are the one of questionable intelligence. I meant somebody in the room, and the knowledge that everything they do and see is logged somewhere.
Internet access in schools needs one thing...supervision. It is a remarkable tool for schools that don't have the resources or staff to do some of these things...the school district I work for is in a rural part of Illinois, and we don't have much access to the newest this and flashiest that...but with the internet, we are able to give kids access to more than we could ever hope to afford...I use a combination of filters that have reduced popups and crap on the internet to a manageable level on the supervision side. The biggest thing that I have found is not to use commercial solutions like Surfcontrol/Surfpatrol/Cyberpatrol/whateveryouwant tocallit...they are much more show than go. I use a product known as Dansguardian, which is a modified Squidguard. Block popups entirely, and block various vulgar words...while at the same time making exceptions for words like "cancer." Filter it to a negligible level...heck, just constrain your allowable domains to a few known research pages...but sheesh, don't get rid of it entirely! These kids are going into the century where they will be academically helpless without the ability to use a computer effectively to solve problems.
I've always been amazed at how badly Apple treats everyone from their employees to their dealers. The dealers have been beaten bloody for years, but they keep on coming back. If that isn't zealotry, I don't know what is.
Your experiences may be different than mine. In my experience with 3 different districts under 2 different "maintenance agreements", they have made out like bandits. They charged $150 per hour, from doorstep to doorstep, to do things as simple as put ink in a printer (they were over an hour away.) They got sweetheart 300% markups on hardware they sold to the district...and most of all, they got to lock them in to proprietary OS's and their yearly "licensing fees." I have personally brought one district back from paying out nearly $100,000 a year in fees that did nothing to further the education of one student. Now they run open-source everything, and we buy from widely known dealers, not shady "friends of friends."
The one exception to all of this is education...there is really no way (yet) to outsource the people and skills necessary to install and run the computer systems for anything like a school district or a university. There are currently lots of consulting firms financially cornholing school districts from 500 students to 300,000...and plenty of opportunity to undercut them. My advice would be show them a better way...preferably one without licensing costs.
Here's our good friend Blakey....
Quote...
SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said he did not know what the subpoenas asked for, but "I know that some of them have been served."
Unquote...
I don't know what they hope to prove by service subpoenas on a handful of linux-related people...I mean, don't they technically have to serve some purpose at a TRIAL? Perhaps someday we will actually get to that point...but I think this is more meaningless pump-and-dumping on the part of the SCO people.
I hope he's talking real dollars and not inflated dollars when he says the average income will go to $150,000 from $35,000...but then again, who knows?
I used to work for a company that was trying, and hugely succeeding, to apply a patent of theirs from 1986 that involved selecting construction materials from a hierarchal list to the web. Sites like Dell and Gateway that allowed custom configuration based on a hierarchal list were the targets...and they paid up based on this patent, which was never really challenged as being "non-web."
If I had mod points, I would save you from what is basically an Apple zealot attack against your post. I mean, sheesh, if you don't agree, reply and tell him why, don't just mod him down.
But I tend to agree that Apple has tried to crow about OS X being based on Open Source components, and even going as far as thinking that millions of people are going to help develop Darwin just because it is open source, like Linux. Apple is SELLING OS X for a completely closed hardware platform and making a mint doing it...this is not the kind of activity that builds trust in the developer community that their work will not be exploited to buy Steve Jobs another corporate jet or line of coke. But I suppose that, rather than reply, Apple zealots will just mod me down. So be it...the parent post makes valid points.
I love these lines from another CNN Story...
"In a culture without copyright, only the rich, or the government-sponsored, could be this culture's full-time creators. Poor artists such as Loretta Lynn would have to flip burgers long into their music careers -- and might even give up on music entirely."
So, instead, in a culture WITH copyright, only the rich and government-sponsored (through government-protected monopolies) are this culture's full-time creators. Poor artists flip burgers even though they have multi-platinum selling albums, while the music companies get billions.
I think that moving to IPv6 is really going in the wrong direction. Sure, it would be great to have an IP address available for every molecule in the universe, but the side-effect of addresses like fec0:02::0060:1dff:ff1e:26ee is not worth it. It's hard enough to remember a dozen IPv4 addresses, their associated subnet masks, and various DNS servers, gateways, etc. The answer is efficient use of the space we have. It used to be easy to get addresses; a school district I used to work for probably had 300 unused IP's...and two used ones. If we start taking back those unused addresses, we can go a lot, lot longer with the address space we have.
Well how about flight plans for CH-47 helicopters in Baghdad? I can see someone releasing a document, let's call it "Time Table for Troops Returning From Active Duty" which talked about a group of soldiers returning from the field, and giving unit numbers that were coming home. Rather than edit out text from the document, some enterprising military type decides just to mask out the end portion, which is a list of schedules and departure points for those soldiers. As an Iraqi "resistor", you first unmask, get your SA-7's and SA-14's ready, and wait for them to fly over. What I am saying is that when classified information leaks out, who knows what kind of damage it could cause. Classified is classified, whether it is the battery-replacment schedule for a weather station in Fairbanks, Alaska, or a listing of train schedules in Iraq.
Not if someday they put out a blacked-out PDF with war plans of some sort, and end up forewarning the recipients of said war plans and costing lives. Security is security, and if they screw this one up, they're very liable to screw up lots more.
"He who is faithful in least is faithful in most."
There was an occasion where this happened before...I believe it was in blacking out some sources on a PDF document...so some enterprising chap removed the blackouts...and voila, there were the "classified" sources. Obviously nobody in government learns from their mistakes.
That scenario is EXACTLY what happens in business! I personally witnessed a manager shoving product out the door for short-term profit that he knew would come back and bite the Customer Service people later. He drove a Jaguar.
If SCO succeeds in "eliminating" the GPL, the question then becomes what "license" the code falls under...in fact it would fall under NO license, because without the GPL there is none in the case of most software...SCO is taking the train of thought that since the GPL will be eliminated, then automatically there is some sort of completely open BSD license is instituted. WRONG! All of that software (like Samba 3.0) that they were crowing about including in their Unixware product suddently is un-licensed by its creators...they are violating untold numbers of copyrights if they do something like that, and would be liable for billions in damages.
I couldn't agree more...the word I've been getting from the "resellers" continuously trying to hawk some new "Zen" or "E-" product from Novell to me is that this is going to revolutionize the world, shift my paradigm, blah, blah, blah. Novell waited far too long to join the rest of the world in things like TCP/IP (choosing to hang on to their old standard IPX/SPX.) They are now firmly on the Upgrade Leasing program bandwagon...and they don't make me a "value proposition" good enough to get me to switch back to them from Linux. Linux runs, doesn't ABEND, and doesn't also screw up so badly in the first week of being installed that it won't even boot.
Oh by the way, I do work in a school district...and we're constantly bombarded with ads and calls from companies hawking security equipment as the way to prevent whatever bad things parents think are happening to their kids....one package in particular would allow a parent to log-in to a website, enter their "security code" and then get to see a live video of their particular children in their particular class. It was horrendously expensive, but many district don't see cost as a barrier. The salesman I talked to said they're installing the system as fast as they can make them. By the way...how was my previous comment flamebait?
Ya it was an Epilog. I was trying to remember the name. I was originally given the task of integrating it with our Mac infrastructure, since everything in the Art department ran on Macs. We were first told that it understood Truetype fonts only...and I commenced converting all of our Postscript fonts to TT. But then we tryed just lying to a postscript driver, and it worked fine. The gases from burning Corian were quite noxious, but we just dumped them outside. I, too, wonder what's so magical about a "printer" that's been around so long...
A company I worked for before had one of these...back in the year 2000...but it wasn't a Versalaser, it was another brand. We "printed" from a Mactintosh G3 using Illustrator onto things like Corian and wood...it supposedly did not understand Postscript fonts, but we installed a Postscript driver and simply pointed it at the printer, and the thing worked fine. It was pretty fast, and could burn anything but metals...
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If you think that I meant 1:1 supervision, you, sir, are the one of questionable intelligence. I meant somebody in the room, and the knowledge that everything they do and see is logged somewhere.
Internet access in schools needs one thing...supervision. It is a remarkable tool for schools that don't have the resources or staff to do some of these things...the school district I work for is in a rural part of Illinois, and we don't have much access to the newest this and flashiest that...but with the internet, we are able to give kids access to more than we could ever hope to afford...I use a combination of filters that have reduced popups and crap on the internet to a manageable level on the supervision side. The biggest thing that I have found is not to use commercial solutions like Surfcontrol/Surfpatrol/Cyberpatrol/whateveryouwant tocallit...they are much more show than go. I use a product known as Dansguardian, which is a modified Squidguard. Block popups entirely, and block various vulgar words...while at the same time making exceptions for words like "cancer." Filter it to a negligible level...heck, just constrain your allowable domains to a few known research pages...but sheesh, don't get rid of it entirely! These kids are going into the century where they will be academically helpless without the ability to use a computer effectively to solve problems.
That would only be code obfuscation! 5(0 is still a clear violation of their intellectual property rights!
I hear that SCO has found gratuitous use of the letters S, C, and O in BSD source code! Obviously there must be payment rendered!
I've always been amazed at how badly Apple treats everyone from their employees to their dealers. The dealers have been beaten bloody for years, but they keep on coming back. If that isn't zealotry, I don't know what is.
Your experiences may be different than mine. In my experience with 3 different districts under 2 different "maintenance agreements", they have made out like bandits. They charged $150 per hour, from doorstep to doorstep, to do things as simple as put ink in a printer (they were over an hour away.) They got sweetheart 300% markups on hardware they sold to the district...and most of all, they got to lock them in to proprietary OS's and their yearly "licensing fees." I have personally brought one district back from paying out nearly $100,000 a year in fees that did nothing to further the education of one student. Now they run open-source everything, and we buy from widely known dealers, not shady "friends of friends."
The one exception to all of this is education...there is really no way (yet) to outsource the people and skills necessary to install and run the computer systems for anything like a school district or a university. There are currently lots of consulting firms financially cornholing school districts from 500 students to 300,000...and plenty of opportunity to undercut them. My advice would be show them a better way...preferably one without licensing costs.
Here's our good friend Blakey.... Quote... SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said he did not know what the subpoenas asked for, but "I know that some of them have been served." Unquote... I don't know what they hope to prove by service subpoenas on a handful of linux-related people...I mean, don't they technically have to serve some purpose at a TRIAL? Perhaps someday we will actually get to that point...but I think this is more meaningless pump-and-dumping on the part of the SCO people.
I hope he's talking real dollars and not inflated dollars when he says the average income will go to $150,000 from $35,000...but then again, who knows?
I used to work for a company that was trying, and hugely succeeding, to apply a patent of theirs from 1986 that involved selecting construction materials from a hierarchal list to the web. Sites like Dell and Gateway that allowed custom configuration based on a hierarchal list were the targets...and they paid up based on this patent, which was never really challenged as being "non-web."
If I had mod points, I would save you from what is basically an Apple zealot attack against your post. I mean, sheesh, if you don't agree, reply and tell him why, don't just mod him down. But I tend to agree that Apple has tried to crow about OS X being based on Open Source components, and even going as far as thinking that millions of people are going to help develop Darwin just because it is open source, like Linux. Apple is SELLING OS X for a completely closed hardware platform and making a mint doing it...this is not the kind of activity that builds trust in the developer community that their work will not be exploited to buy Steve Jobs another corporate jet or line of coke. But I suppose that, rather than reply, Apple zealots will just mod me down. So be it...the parent post makes valid points.
The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more spammers will slip through your fingers.
I love these lines from another CNN Story... "In a culture without copyright, only the rich, or the government-sponsored, could be this culture's full-time creators. Poor artists such as Loretta Lynn would have to flip burgers long into their music careers -- and might even give up on music entirely." So, instead, in a culture WITH copyright, only the rich and government-sponsored (through government-protected monopolies) are this culture's full-time creators. Poor artists flip burgers even though they have multi-platinum selling albums, while the music companies get billions.
I think that moving to IPv6 is really going in the wrong direction. Sure, it would be great to have an IP address available for every molecule in the universe, but the side-effect of addresses like fec0:02::0060:1dff:ff1e:26ee is not worth it. It's hard enough to remember a dozen IPv4 addresses, their associated subnet masks, and various DNS servers, gateways, etc. The answer is efficient use of the space we have. It used to be easy to get addresses; a school district I used to work for probably had 300 unused IP's...and two used ones. If we start taking back those unused addresses, we can go a lot, lot longer with the address space we have.
Well how about flight plans for CH-47 helicopters in Baghdad? I can see someone releasing a document, let's call it "Time Table for Troops Returning From Active Duty" which talked about a group of soldiers returning from the field, and giving unit numbers that were coming home. Rather than edit out text from the document, some enterprising military type decides just to mask out the end portion, which is a list of schedules and departure points for those soldiers. As an Iraqi "resistor", you first unmask, get your SA-7's and SA-14's ready, and wait for them to fly over. What I am saying is that when classified information leaks out, who knows what kind of damage it could cause. Classified is classified, whether it is the battery-replacment schedule for a weather station in Fairbanks, Alaska, or a listing of train schedules in Iraq.
Not if someday they put out a blacked-out PDF with war plans of some sort, and end up forewarning the recipients of said war plans and costing lives. Security is security, and if they screw this one up, they're very liable to screw up lots more. "He who is faithful in least is faithful in most."
There was an occasion where this happened before...I believe it was in blacking out some sources on a PDF document...so some enterprising chap removed the blackouts...and voila, there were the "classified" sources. Obviously nobody in government learns from their mistakes.
That scenario is EXACTLY what happens in business! I personally witnessed a manager shoving product out the door for short-term profit that he knew would come back and bite the Customer Service people later. He drove a Jaguar.
If SCO succeeds in "eliminating" the GPL, the question then becomes what "license" the code falls under...in fact it would fall under NO license, because without the GPL there is none in the case of most software...SCO is taking the train of thought that since the GPL will be eliminated, then automatically there is some sort of completely open BSD license is instituted. WRONG! All of that software (like Samba 3.0) that they were crowing about including in their Unixware product suddently is un-licensed by its creators...they are violating untold numbers of copyrights if they do something like that, and would be liable for billions in damages.
I couldn't agree more...the word I've been getting from the "resellers" continuously trying to hawk some new "Zen" or "E-" product from Novell to me is that this is going to revolutionize the world, shift my paradigm, blah, blah, blah. Novell waited far too long to join the rest of the world in things like TCP/IP (choosing to hang on to their old standard IPX/SPX.) They are now firmly on the Upgrade Leasing program bandwagon...and they don't make me a "value proposition" good enough to get me to switch back to them from Linux. Linux runs, doesn't ABEND, and doesn't also screw up so badly in the first week of being installed that it won't even boot.
Oh by the way, I do work in a school district...and we're constantly bombarded with ads and calls from companies hawking security equipment as the way to prevent whatever bad things parents think are happening to their kids....one package in particular would allow a parent to log-in to a website, enter their "security code" and then get to see a live video of their particular children in their particular class. It was horrendously expensive, but many district don't see cost as a barrier. The salesman I talked to said they're installing the system as fast as they can make them. By the way...how was my previous comment flamebait?
No, I don't think it makes it okay...but with the way the world is going, we will have cameras in our breakfast cereals before long...
Kids in schools are already treated to an all-day tracking with security cameras virtually everywhere but the toilets...and maybe there too...
Ya it was an Epilog. I was trying to remember the name. I was originally given the task of integrating it with our Mac infrastructure, since everything in the Art department ran on Macs. We were first told that it understood Truetype fonts only...and I commenced converting all of our Postscript fonts to TT. But then we tryed just lying to a postscript driver, and it worked fine. The gases from burning Corian were quite noxious, but we just dumped them outside. I, too, wonder what's so magical about a "printer" that's been around so long...
A company I worked for before had one of these...back in the year 2000...but it wasn't a Versalaser, it was another brand. We "printed" from a Mactintosh G3 using Illustrator onto things like Corian and wood...it supposedly did not understand Postscript fonts, but we installed a Postscript driver and simply pointed it at the printer, and the thing worked fine. It was pretty fast, and could burn anything but metals...