So? Linux has been working on Linux since Linux since 1991 and if Larry is using Linux then he has received more than his due by from Linux alone in this way.
BM can pull the tool at any time, particulary the free version that the Linux developers use, therefor it is pragmatic to have an access tool (not a full clone, just enough to migrate) ready for that time. Tridgell's motivation could have been ideological, pragmatic or a mix of both. He may aslo have done it "just for fun". Fundamental short-term thinking is not the holy grail you want to make it.
If a problem starts moving through those there is no way to fix them all by hand. This happened once before, a user tweaked the ChangeSet file, and it costs $35,000 plus a custom release to fix it.
If a user tweak brakes you system you a problem, fix it. If the breakage spreads like wildfire you have a big problem. It's a version control system, nothing the client does shoeld make the server tamper with the stored history, it should enable to get a clean version after you have fixed the client. If you can't do that you can drop the server and do it the Arch way.
Unlike some people, I don't judge people for whether they are commercial or "free software" people [..]
Coming from the guy who originaly licensed Linux under a freeware licenese... I hope he at least knows the difference between 'commercial' and 'non-free'.
The STFU was more of a "yes Debian does that, stop trying to make it into something it isn't". You may say that beeing user-friendly is not Debian's foremost goal, but saying that it "does not make decisions for you" or that one will have to recompile the kernel is simply not true. I used Debian and did not see any need to recompile my kernel, I doubt I even could, in a sane manner anyway.
You may believe that you are not elitist, but you sound very much like a Slackware using acquaintance of mine who believed that mandrake was more like Windows then "Linux". I personaly do not believe that a distro gives more control just because you have to do more. Mandrake and Ubuntu will let you compile your kernel just fine if you want to, does that make them less friendly?
You jumped in to state that the new installer autodetects hardware [..]
You certainly didn't dispute that you know about it, which is just as well for our purpsouses. Thats Because Debian isn't such a distro anymore, either that or the testing that I had installed for a while was running just fine by pure coincidence.
No, it's a big problem with Windows weenies, or is there any file manager that had those before MS decided thatIE is "an intergral part of Windows". Back and Forth make no sense when you travel a directory tree instead of an hyperlinked web, spatial just highlights it.
Reload shouldn't be used so often. A better solution would be making fam work properly after all these years.
Seems to work in Hoary.
Is badly placed. Whats wrong with consistency?
It shows the status doesn't it?:-D
I don't understand it either to say the truth, but it does not move around so it is consistent in some way...
So you state that Debian will autodetect the hardware, but at the same time you are expected to do it yourself and call me a troll? The STFU was there because your point isn't valid any more and the people behind Debian do not really expect you to do everything yourself.
Back and forward have no meaning in the spatial mode. Reload isn't used often enough in a file manager to have it in the toolbar. The button on the statusbar is a replacement for Up and specific places are in the Places menu on the panel and in Nautilus. You can also leave the home folder open if you will need it.
You still have the option, use browser mode. The spatial mode has eliminated the need for the toolbar (it's simple enough not to need one). You can't have the two modes in the interface without extensive options (not good), because the paradigms conflict.
There is no toolbar in the file chooser, the "sidebar" is there because there is no menu to put bookmarks in.
If you are confused by the lack of icons... Well I don't know, try clicking on the folders, that's where your files are. Take a look at the browser mode toolbar and tell me wich buttons you use often, here's a list: Back, Forward, Open Parent, Stop, Reload, Home, Computer. Don't forget that you are looking at a file manager and not at a web browser (they are not the same despite what some companies would want you to believe).
Ubuntu will compete with debian no matter if it's "compatible" or not, so if competiotion is what you go by then there is no difference. Ubuntu is not a fork, because Debian is an upstream resource for Ubutnu. As long as they take a snapshot of Sid every six months, build a distro on that it can not be a fork any more than a patchset not in Linus tree is an Linux fork.
You must have a strange mouse. I just ripped my Logitech OEM out of it's PS/2 adapter and put it into an USB port. As I expected it works fine. I can't belive it's different if the mouse is at the USB port at install time.
I don't want to see.deb packages that only run on Ubuntu or only run on Debian, the way you have to find separate RPMs for Mandrake and Fedora. That would suck.
Do debs from untstable run in stable? From stable in unstable? 100% sure? No? Wait, what were you saying again?
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So? Linux has been working on Linux since Linux since 1991 and if Larry is using Linux then he has received more than his due by from Linux alone in this way.
BM can pull the tool at any time, particulary the free version that the Linux developers use, therefor it is pragmatic to have an access tool (not a full clone, just enough to migrate) ready for that time. Tridgell's motivation could have been ideological, pragmatic or a mix of both. He may aslo have done it "just for fun". Fundamental short-term thinking is not the holy grail you want to make it.
One word: metadata.
It's pragmatic to to reverse engineer proprietary to gain access you need. Linus is not pragmatic here.
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Roguelikes!!!!
Where would they go?
That I can fully agree on.
The STFU was more of a "yes Debian does that, stop trying to make it into something it isn't". You may say that beeing user-friendly is not Debian's foremost goal, but saying that it "does not make decisions for you" or that one will have to recompile the kernel is simply not true. I used Debian and did not see any need to recompile my kernel, I doubt I even could, in a sane manner anyway.
You may believe that you are not elitist, but you sound very much like a Slackware using acquaintance of mine who believed that mandrake was more like Windows then "Linux". I personaly do not believe that a distro gives more control just because you have to do more. Mandrake and Ubuntu will let you compile your kernel just fine if you want to, does that make them less friendly?
So you state that Debian will autodetect the hardware, but at the same time you are expected to do it yourself and call me a troll? The STFU was there because your point isn't valid any more and the people behind Debian do not really expect you to do everything yourself.
Back and forward have no meaning in the spatial mode. Reload isn't used often enough in a file manager to have it in the toolbar. The button on the statusbar is a replacement for Up and specific places are in the Places menu on the panel and in Nautilus. You can also leave the home folder open if you will need it.
And for the listener the problem is finding them.
The universities are peers in Internet2, any activity is peer to peer.
You still have the option, use browser mode. The spatial mode has eliminated the need for the toolbar (it's simple enough not to need one). You can't have the two modes in the interface without extensive options (not good), because the paradigms conflict.
There is no toolbar in the file chooser, the "sidebar" is there because there is no menu to put bookmarks in.
If you are confused by the lack of icons... Well I don't know, try clicking on the folders, that's where your files are. Take a look at the browser mode toolbar and tell me wich buttons you use often, here's a list: Back, Forward, Open Parent, Stop, Reload, Home, Computer. Don't forget that you are looking at a file manager and not at a web browser (they are not the same despite what some companies would want you to believe).
Ubuntu will compete with debian no matter if it's "compatible" or not, so if competiotion is what you go by then there is no difference. Ubuntu is not a fork, because Debian is an upstream resource for Ubutnu. As long as they take a snapshot of Sid every six months, build a distro on that it can not be a fork any more than a patchset not in Linus tree is an Linux fork.
Will the old one?
Do tell, how does one use slashdot subscribers?
You must have a strange mouse. I just ripped my Logitech OEM out of it's PS/2 adapter and put it into an USB port. As I expected it works fine. I can't belive it's different if the mouse is at the USB port at install time.
And Debian PPC is a fork of Debian i386 as well, thanks for playing.
I like decisions like "will this card have drivers installed" to be made for me. The new Debian installer does just that by the way so STFU.