> Arguing that the guy with the most popular votes "really" won is silly.
I wasn't arguing that at all. I was simply pointing out that the parent hadn't included a significant example that followed the pattern of his other examples. And Y2K was more to the point of this thread.
That is, he showed three examples in which the winner in the electoral college did not win more than 50% of the popular vote. I pointed out that Y2K was another example of that.
All his examples had the electoral winner also the popular winner, which was not the case in Y2K. The original question in this thread included this:
> The current presidential system seems to have several shortcomings, > including two-party duopoly and the ability to win the Election even > after losing the popular vote.
And so I thought that the last USA election was an example that is pertinent and significantly missing in Wyatt Earp's post.
Well, Wyatt, all the examples you cite show that the elected candidate as the one who got the most votes, so I'm not seeing your point. Sure, none of these got more than 50% of the popular vote, but they all got more than than the other candidates.
well, let us know how the bit torrent iso's look. I downloaded from the "local 1" mirror and got a different md5 than the published 1f8528353b5ae95f1c4084b5fd4b3881 hikarunix-0.1.iso
I took an undergrad degree in theoretical math, and was quite proud of the fact that the highest level of technology I used was a ballpoint pen. I found, however, that all that training in thinking in logical ways helped immensely when I picked up programming.
but most helpful was the experience reading symbols. that first C++ class was a no-brainer for me. while many other students were struggling with basic syntax, I picked it up pretty quickly because I did not fear the odd usage of characters like '*' and "==".
my other pet peeve involves the expense and ruination of the wilderness experience caused by people who have to get "rescued".
I think that we should have certain areas designated as no-save areas: if you get into trouble, you have to get yourself out. that means self-evacuation if you break your leg, for instance. it'd keep a lot of people out of those areas that have little business being there.
of course, you'd have to keep the majority of the wilderness area patrolled and accessible by helicopter, but this would create a new level of wilderness.
> Nahhhhh, that's not what a GPS is for. It's for figuring > out where you were when you get back.
well, *you* know that and *I* know that, but you'd be surprised at how many knuckleheads there are who will use it as their sole method of orientation.
I used to sell GPS units at REI, and they are just about the most stupid things. people would take them into the back country, leaving a map at home, and then use their cell phone (they sometimes work) to get themselves rescued.
okay, so there are other uses. I'm not really meaning to troll, but GPS has stuck in my craw ever since.
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sure they can return the stuff. just open the hatch and shove it out! let gravity do the rest.
> Arguing that the guy with the most popular votes "really" won is silly.
I wasn't arguing that at all. I was simply pointing out that the parent hadn't included a significant example that followed the pattern of his other examples. And Y2K was more to the point of this thread.
That is, he showed three examples in which the winner in the electoral college did not win more than 50% of the popular vote. I pointed out that Y2K was another example of that.
All his examples had the electoral winner also the popular winner, which was not the case in Y2K. The original question in this thread included this:
> The current presidential system seems to have several shortcomings,
> including two-party duopoly and the ability to win the Election even
> after losing the popular vote.
And so I thought that the last USA election was an example that is pertinent and significantly missing in Wyatt Earp's post.
Well, Wyatt, all the examples you cite show that the elected candidate as the one who got the most votes, so I'm not seeing your point. Sure, none of these got more than 50% of the popular vote, but they all got more than than the other candidates.
Why didn't you include the Y2K election, in which G.W. Bush got less than 50%, as well as losing the popular vote?
> It'll leave your backdoor wide open.
that's a recycled joke.
> from the flying-north-for-the-winter dept.
shouldn't that read "northwest"?
> (Note: The following is publication, and may act as prior art to any future patent on this issue.)
and so you post anonymously?
*and* apparently RTFA??
> > I do have to admit to asking "Why?"
> it'll fit on a 3" live cd,...
plus it'll be optimized for performance. we all know how cruelly fast go can get.
% md5sum hikarunix.org/hikarunix-0.1.iso host128.ipowerweb.com/hikarunix-0.1.iso3 b5ae95f1c4084b5fd4b3881 hikarunix.org/hikarunix-0.1.iso1 ca25ab68f61cd20 host128.ipowerweb.com/hikarunix-0.1.iso
- - 1 ken users 189892608 2004-09-24 19:25 hikarunix.org/hikarunix-0.1.iso
1f852835
b705facb96309df7
% ls -l hikarunix.org/hikarunix-0.1.iso host128.ipowerweb.com/hikarunix-0.1.iso
-rw-----
-rw-r--r-- 1 ken users 81005160 2004-09-24 18:54 host128.ipowerweb.com/hikarunix-0.1.iso
% hey refresh the mirror!
-bash: hey: command not found
well, let us know how the bit torrent iso's look. I downloaded from the "local 1" mirror and got a different md5 than the published
9 6309df71ca25ab68f61cd20 host128.ipowerweb.com/hikarunix-0.1.iso
1f8528353b5ae95f1c4084b5fd4b3881 hikarunix-0.1.iso
% md5sum host128.ipowerweb.com/hikarunix-0.1.iso
b705facb
hikaruweb.org/iso is g e t t i n g s l o w . . . . . . so I have no md5 from there yet.
right under the title "Google News", it says "beta"! kinda greyed-out, though.....
anyway, the guy coulda been in less of a rush and cleaned up the code a bit. s/he declares a FILE *fin but never uses it.
. c. php
http://k-otik.com/exploits/09222004.ms04-28-cmd
man, you trolls are really something.
I took an undergrad degree in theoretical math, and was quite proud of the fact that the highest level of technology I used was a ballpoint pen. I found, however, that all that training in thinking in logical ways helped immensely when I picked up programming.
but most helpful was the experience reading symbols. that first C++ class was a no-brainer for me. while many other students were struggling with basic syntax, I picked it up pretty quickly because I did not fear the odd usage of characters like '*' and "==".
what do you use on your Mac or Linux machines to post images automatically?
cron
scp
okay, I'm not *trying* to troll, but, what with SCO, I'd've thought that they'd do more to separate themselves from UNIX(r).
they seem to have purloined the song as well. it might be in the public domain, however. or maybe they paid for it?
anyway, they don't seem to mind taking stuff and not acknowledging where they got it from.
> I'll put in one of the highest moderated ones for consideration.
oof. pretty slim pickins.
> Can't go any further than you wind it...
maybe it coasts?
still, you've a good point. THEY'RE HIDING SOMETHING!!
> I prefer the old-school method of navigation.
I like that also. very little can go wrong.
my other pet peeve involves the expense and ruination of the wilderness experience caused by people who have to get "rescued".
I think that we should have certain areas designated as no-save areas: if you get into trouble, you have to get yourself out. that means self-evacuation if you break your leg, for instance. it'd keep a lot of people out of those areas that have little business being there.
of course, you'd have to keep the majority of the wilderness area patrolled and accessible by helicopter, but this would create a new level of wilderness.
> Nahhhhh, that's not what a GPS is for. It's for figuring
> out where you were when you get back.
well, *you* know that and *I* know that, but you'd be surprised at how many knuckleheads there are who will use it as their sole method of orientation.
we could have a networked marathon race! run simultaneously in 10 major cities! (just gotta make sure that the courses are all about the same.)
the eOlympics....
I used to sell GPS units at REI, and they are just about the most stupid things. people would take them into the back country, leaving a map at home, and then use their cell phone (they sometimes work) to get themselves rescued.
okay, so there are other uses. I'm not really meaning to troll, but GPS has stuck in my craw ever since.
"shave and a haircut" into port numbers?
don't think it'd be useful because you could specify no more than four ports (or maybe just one of four ports). just two bits, you know.
at the top of the page, the date shows about a week and a half from now!! this is a serious slashdot scoop!!
how can we play this to our advantage in the stock market?