.... but the problem is not as easy to solve from a technical standpoint as you believe.
It was easy to solve for me. Although I've been on Linux for many years, my kids had talked me into getting them XP for games. Because of this I've bought a Transgaming membership and am migrating them to GNU/Linux (Ubuntu) with Cedega. I don't mind paying for software -- I spend a good deal on it and that's not a problem. Refreshing their installations from an image twice a year to clear the festering crud Windows accumulates was a nuisance I was willing to bear. But "Not Genuine" messages on my PCs? I won't have it. Enough is enough.
why write brittle code when it's just as easy to write more robust code?
Why sit in traffic when you can commute in your hovercraft? Oh, yeah, because you don't have a hovercraft. They're building this code with the tools they have and if this story is evidence then the tools writing Vista for Microsoft are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
It seems like the list of reasons not to deploy Vista gets longer every day. I wonder what else they missed.
Except that they would have to snail-mail the instructions to the affected customers since they may have no access to the Internet until this is fixed.
Every one of the DHCP servers in the world, on every OS whether embedded or multi-purpose should be audited and downgraded (yes, this is a downgrade to a deprecated method) or replaced with obsolete equipment.
This should be done because Microsoft's Vista network programming team could not be troubled to code in something like "If DHCP request using deprecated method times out, retry with the standard method."
And no copying my idea. That's valuable Intellectual Property there.
... I don't understand why anyone would connect any machine directly to the Internet without some type of hardware firewall.
That is what the Internet is for. You're projecting Windows' problems onto real computers. There is no reason why a router or hardware firewall should be necessary to add security -- they're both computers with instructions and flaws. Increasing the number of hardware pieces increases the number of failure points at the cost of also increasing latency and reducing actual bandwidth.
There are only three reason why a computer needs to be isolated from the Internet:
There are not enough addresses in the IPV4 space to expand forever. IPV6 fixes that.
This bill was proposed this year to allow the PUD's to retail internet service. It didn't pass on the first try but it will pass, by initiative if necessary. AFAIK, the PUD owns the last mile too-- they just can't sell the service retail so the reseller owns the relationship. At least they do until they neglect their customer and the customer has to find a more amenable reseller to launder the relationship.
Resellers can and do exist to bring the service the rest of the way to the customer at the rates and speeds I quoted. In fact, I believe there's a link to a list of 16 or so resellers on the page you quoted. So what's your point? Mine was that govt owned infrastructure is a slam dunk in this case.
In all the areas where this is offered, it will take something amazing to drive the customers back to the incumbent communications providers who neglected them so long.
Does your state power grid not have a buried fiber network yet? Tsk. It's not too late to start.
At this point I have to believe somebody is paying you guys to present these density and last mile arguments.
In sleepy little towns less than pop. 5000 across rural washington you can get fiber to the premises and 100mbps service for less than $40/mo.
The problem is that the incumbent monopolies are milking the market for far more than they should be able to get away with. That is the only reason. All of these logistic and practical reasons are nothing but industry propaganda. I post this in every broadband thread and will continue to do so.
Muni broadband. The incumbents won't build us a bridge to the modern market so the People must.
Rural Washington state. 3 counties in various stages of fiber deployment through the county power district. Fiber to the premises, ethernet to the building. 100mbps starting at $40/mo. Sweet.
When game developers chose to standardise their efforts on Windows they bit the hook. Now they are unhappy about being on the line. Too bad.
We warned them. Now if some forward thinking company thought to maintain some cross platform efforts they are ready to seize a significant opportunity. Unreal engine? Id? Is that you?
Nobody could expect Microsoft to come up with an OS that does two things well at the same time. That would be multitasking. We're decades away from the invention of computers that can do that.
Networking is overrated also. It's probably just a fad that will fade away once we all get high density flash storage for our sneakernets.
Music? If you wanted to do artsy iLife stuff like that you should have bought an iFruit.
I actually have used it. Latency is nice and low, reliability is high. You get fiber to the premises and run Ethernet to your house. Premise wiring is your own problem of course.
The cheap account at $40/month is metered at 7GB traffic per month, additional at $1.50/GB. Other packages are available and there is a great competitive market full of other retail ISPs. Unmetered 100Mbps point to point is available for, I think, $100/mo. Faster speeds are available too.
Backhaul is through the county public utility district and from there to the Bonneville Power Administration network so overcommitment of bandwidth is not an issue at all. Nice try, though.
People need to stop listening to the incumbent providers lies: Density is key, last mile, bandwidth is limited, our quality is better so we deserve to be paid more. The stunning truth is that the biggest cost to a data provider isn't new networks. It isn't maintenance of existing networks. It isn't paying backhaul fees. It's printing and mailing the heinous 17 page bill they send every subscriber, processing the payments and paying the call center in some far off country to ignore their customer complaints.
If you're with an incumbent provider, you're not going to like this bill(PDF). It may not get through on the first try, but the people will pass it by initiative if the legislature won't. There will be fiber to every home and business.
If you're not... read the bill anyway. It'll warm your heart a little.
For new construction not laying fiber to the premises is just negligent. You're in the trench anyway. Lay the fiber.
So the 'bandwidth problem' is local access, where the local providers usually act pretty rationally to maximize profit:
Exactly my point. Their profit margins have nothing to do with our need for critical infrastructure. They're milking the consumer for every buck they can get and leaving us further and further behind in the global economy every day. If they won't build us a silicon bridge to the markets of today and tomorrow then they had better get out of the way because we're going to build it without them.
Available bandwidth is currently deliberately limited by the major incumbents. This manufactured scarcity drives the price up. There is more than enough dark fiber to meet our needs for decades to come.
The incumbents are about to discover that people will only put up with this for so long before they mandate municipal information infrastructure. Fiber is the bridge to the global economy and building bridges is one of the justifications for government exist. If your state and local governments won't do it, mine will - and your kids will find it that much harder to compete with mine.
Fiber is not made of some rare mineral. It is processed sand.
In three rural counties in Washington state you can get fiber to the premises. Rates start at $40/month for 100mbps with bandwidth surcharges over about 7GB. It's provided by the county Public Utility. Point to point unmetered links are available too.
It would kind of make me feel bad for the cable company if I wasn't being charged twice that for 7% as much.
Not until the full text of the contract is disclosed. Based on the recent SCO exerience I would say about 22 years.
The nuisance about secret deals is that then both companies can lie about their rights therein and if you buy into their pitch you can get badly burned. Nobody wants to be running SCO's Unix today. When Novell's time comes their customers will be in the same jam. About the dumbest thing you could do right now would be to migrate from SCO's Unix to SuSE.
"Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few" (Matt. 7:13-14).
What costs the most is stringing the wire. For new construction you have to string the wire, so omitting the fiber at the same time is negligent.
We need some politicians with ethics who aren't in the pocket of the telcos to actually stand up and hold them to their promises. Either that, or we need the physical network to be a public utility.
Congratulations! You have the right answer. Now what do we do?
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It was easy to solve for me. Although I've been on Linux for many years, my kids had talked me into getting them XP for games. Because of this I've bought a Transgaming membership and am migrating them to GNU/Linux (Ubuntu) with Cedega. I don't mind paying for software -- I spend a good deal on it and that's not a problem. Refreshing their installations from an image twice a year to clear the festering crud Windows accumulates was a nuisance I was willing to bear. But "Not Genuine" messages on my PCs? I won't have it. Enough is enough.
Why sit in traffic when you can commute in your hovercraft? Oh, yeah, because you don't have a hovercraft. They're building this code with the tools they have and if this story is evidence then the tools writing Vista for Microsoft are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
It seems like the list of reasons not to deploy Vista gets longer every day. I wonder what else they missed.
Except that they would have to snail-mail the instructions to the affected customers since they may have no access to the Internet until this is fixed.
Every one of the DHCP servers in the world, on every OS whether embedded or multi-purpose should be audited and downgraded (yes, this is a downgrade to a deprecated method) or replaced with obsolete equipment.
This should be done because Microsoft's Vista network programming team could not be troubled to code in something like "If DHCP request using deprecated method times out, retry with the standard method."
And no copying my idea. That's valuable Intellectual Property there.
That is what the Internet is for. You're projecting Windows' problems onto real computers. There is no reason why a router or hardware firewall should be necessary to add security -- they're both computers with instructions and flaws. Increasing the number of hardware pieces increases the number of failure points at the cost of also increasing latency and reducing actual bandwidth.
There are only three reason why a computer needs to be isolated from the Internet:
3 Billion men alert vital and virile well into their 100's. That should be good for the planet.
Not that I would turn it down myself...
This bill was proposed this year to allow the PUD's to retail internet service. It didn't pass on the first try but it will pass, by initiative if necessary. AFAIK, the PUD owns the last mile too-- they just can't sell the service retail so the reseller owns the relationship. At least they do until they neglect their customer and the customer has to find a more amenable reseller to launder the relationship.
Resellers can and do exist to bring the service the rest of the way to the customer at the rates and speeds I quoted. In fact, I believe there's a link to a list of 16 or so resellers on the page you quoted. So what's your point? Mine was that govt owned infrastructure is a slam dunk in this case.
In all the areas where this is offered, it will take something amazing to drive the customers back to the incumbent communications providers who neglected them so long.
Does your state power grid not have a buried fiber network yet? Tsk. It's not too late to start.
At this point I have to believe somebody is paying you guys to present these density and last mile arguments.
In sleepy little towns less than pop. 5000 across rural washington you can get fiber to the premises and 100mbps service for less than $40/mo.
The problem is that the incumbent monopolies are milking the market for far more than they should be able to get away with. That is the only reason. All of these logistic and practical reasons are nothing but industry propaganda. I post this in every broadband thread and will continue to do so.
Muni broadband. The incumbents won't build us a bridge to the modern market so the People must.
Rural Washington state. 3 counties in various stages of fiber deployment through the county power district. Fiber to the premises, ethernet to the building. 100mbps starting at $40/mo. Sweet.
It's cute that you were expecting any different. Is this your first new MS OS? It can't (13249) be.
Over engineered is not one of the ways I would describe this feature.
I promise this is the only braindead hardcoded constant in Vista.
See, it's not a bug -- it's a design tradeoff.
Who uses gigabit anyway?
We spent seven man-years on that Vista sound -- it has to play smoothly.
10k packets/second ought to be enough for anybody.
Thanks! I'll be here all week. Tip your waitress.
When game developers chose to standardise their efforts on Windows they bit the hook. Now they are unhappy about being on the line. Too bad.
We warned them. Now if some forward thinking company thought to maintain some cross platform efforts they are ready to seize a significant opportunity. Unreal engine? Id? Is that you?
No, they're three descriptions of the same OS in decreasing order of product experience.
Nobody could expect Microsoft to come up with an OS that does two things well at the same time. That would be multitasking. We're decades away from the invention of computers that can do that.
Networking is overrated also. It's probably just a fad that will fade away once we all get high density flash storage for our sneakernets.
Music? If you wanted to do artsy iLife stuff like that you should have bought an iFruit.
It's good that you haven't needed to compile a program because Windows doesn't come with a compiler.
A person who won't compile a program has no advantage over a person who can't.
Available here.
I actually have used it. Latency is nice and low, reliability is high. You get fiber to the premises and run Ethernet to your house. Premise wiring is your own problem of course.
The cheap account at $40/month is metered at 7GB traffic per month, additional at $1.50/GB. Other packages are available and there is a great competitive market full of other retail ISPs. Unmetered 100Mbps point to point is available for, I think, $100/mo. Faster speeds are available too.
Backhaul is through the county public utility district and from there to the Bonneville Power Administration network so overcommitment of bandwidth is not an issue at all. Nice try, though.
People need to stop listening to the incumbent providers lies: Density is key, last mile, bandwidth is limited, our quality is better so we deserve to be paid more. The stunning truth is that the biggest cost to a data provider isn't new networks. It isn't maintenance of existing networks. It isn't paying backhaul fees. It's printing and mailing the heinous 17 page bill they send every subscriber, processing the payments and paying the call center in some far off country to ignore their customer complaints.
If you're with an incumbent provider, you're not going to like this bill(PDF). It may not get through on the first try, but the people will pass it by initiative if the legislature won't. There will be fiber to every home and business.
If you're not... read the bill anyway. It'll warm your heart a little.
For new construction not laying fiber to the premises is just negligent. You're in the trench anyway. Lay the fiber.
Exactly my point. Their profit margins have nothing to do with our need for critical infrastructure. They're milking the consumer for every buck they can get and leaving us further and further behind in the global economy every day. If they won't build us a silicon bridge to the markets of today and tomorrow then they had better get out of the way because we're going to build it without them.
100mbps (both up and down!) starting at $39.95/mo
Apparently not everywhere.
Available bandwidth is currently deliberately limited by the major incumbents. This manufactured scarcity drives the price up. There is more than enough dark fiber to meet our needs for decades to come.
The incumbents are about to discover that people will only put up with this for so long before they mandate municipal information infrastructure. Fiber is the bridge to the global economy and building bridges is one of the justifications for government exist. If your state and local governments won't do it, mine will - and your kids will find it that much harder to compete with mine.
Fiber is not made of some rare mineral. It is processed sand.
In three rural counties in Washington state you can get fiber to the premises. Rates start at $40/month for 100mbps with bandwidth surcharges over about 7GB. It's provided by the county Public Utility. Point to point unmetered links are available too.
It would kind of make me feel bad for the cable company if I wasn't being charged twice that for 7% as much.
It still ultimately comes down to men with guns willing to use them. We're just not very civilized no matter how much we pretend.
Not until the full text of the contract is disclosed. Based on the recent SCO exerience I would say about 22 years.
The nuisance about secret deals is that then both companies can lie about their rights therein and if you buy into their pitch you can get badly burned. Nobody wants to be running SCO's Unix today. When Novell's time comes their customers will be in the same jam. About the dumbest thing you could do right now would be to migrate from SCO's Unix to SuSE.
I don't usually do this, but...
What costs the most is stringing the wire. For new construction you have to string the wire, so omitting the fiber at the same time is negligent.
Congratulations! You have the right answer. Now what do we do?