This sounds a lot like Netrek. Orginially everyone was going to write their own clients. Ended up failing (more or less) because people were writing clients that could cheat. So in the end, only clients wrote by the maintainers get used anyway.
I meant the insulation on the wire. In this case I specifcally was thinking that the leads off of the battery would melt causing the encased copper to come in contact and possible great a direct short circuit.
I sure hope someone can figure it out. I doubt I'll be doing any assembly optimizations in the future.
I've had to do worse, our logic analyzers have to decode the bus traffic to figure out what was going on. As you can imagine, the fact that 1 OP code could mean 4 different thigns depending on when it shows up (or what happened before it) poses a significant challenege. You might say "big deal." Sure, big deal, if you are developing a system. We have to be able to provide tools that are bug free BEFORE the first silicon hits market. That way when a guy in a lab encounters what looks like a bug isn't fighting our mistake.
I fear one day we are going to get to a point where we can't provide a solution for hardware engineers to probe their system with.
And if it has to be IA64, at the very least wait for McKinley - HP's engineers are supposed to be doing a much better job of IA64 than Intel did. Or even wait for the version after McKinley, which is supposed to profit from good ol' Alpha
The point of this article is to introduce you to the IA64 architecture, which McKinley and Madison are going to be based on. The point of developing for Itanium/Merced is to learn how IA64 is different from IA32 so that when you do a McKinley platform you are ready and not fighting with as many "what the hell is it doing now."
I've seen many protoytpes as well from HP and others and the reponse is not "it sucks." The response is "wow, we've got a lot of work ahead of us."
Re:What about power / heat ?
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Yeah it is a power hog. For Merced there is a power pod that goes next to each "processor". That pod provides the power to the processor only. Then from there, there power is distributed to the L3, PAL, Core, etc. I'd imagine on the processor's core chip the power is distributed by a signfinicant amount of pins. Otherwise it'd be a bear to get the power evenly to different areas of the die.
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As far as I can tell, current Itanium stuff is a mere curiosity.
Well right there you have already invalidated the rest of your comment. Intel is not going to have to do anything to get their IA64 architecture moving.
As announced, HP's new PA-RISC chipset will support both McKinley and their RISC processor. Sounds crazy but HP is doing it.
Furthermore nobody and I mean nobody is developing anything for AMD's 64bit systems. On the other hand I have seen significant interest in McKinely. True enough, Merced is just considered a development platform and is pretty much dead in the water. I work for a test and measurement company and I deal directly with our front side bus solutions. You are wrong. AMD is facing the same problems in the IA64 arena that they are in the IA32 arena. Intel's chips say Intel and theirs say AMD. So everybody is ignoring them, for now.
This is not to say that AMD can't come in beat them. I am just saying that Intel's solutions are already in development in many of the high-end server labs. I haven't seen a single group working on AMD's 64bit proc, nor have I been asked if we plan on supporting it.
Oh my god! I could not remember the name of that game! I have it stashed away somewhere in storage. My friend gave it to me because he couldn't figure out how to play it. (Well he wasn't actually a friend, just someone I knew.) I had no instruction manual and no idea what it was. I figured out how to play it all on my own and loved it! Man, I haven't thought about that game for a long long time.
Well the idea is you can only have 3 DVDs at a time. When I was a member I would watch one, send it back right away, and the next one in my queue would ship out. So I always had a continous cycling of DVDs. It was nice for when I was building up my DVD collection because I saved a bundle on rental charges.
No the internal PCB would probably be just fine. Anything plastic would be melted, such as wires. All of the components on the PCB go through a solder wave or a reflow oven. Those temps are much higher than what you'd be cooking a pizza at.
I've done it before. Its either that or prop a hairdryer up next to it. If you get the temp in the oven just a little over a 100 it helps dry it (or any other peice of electronics) much faster.
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I think your question is a little vague. "... that have fairly advanced AI?" What does that mean? AI to do what? In my 3rd year of school we had to build robots that searched a maze, blew out a candle, and came home. It was a pretty smart robot. You could put ramps in the hallways, change the room after he finds the candle, or put 3 candles in a room.
What application are you looking for in regards to AI? Its highly doubtful AI will ever get to a point where you just install an EEPROM, turn it on, and the "thing" figures out why it is there.
For my senior design project last year I built an electronic notebook. Basically it was a SBC, LCD, Touchscreen, and a Flash drive. The hassle came in writing the software for it. At the time the only quaility library available was Qt/Embedded. The GTK/vfb project just wasn't mature enough. My problem was all of the QT books were designed with the desktop in mind. Which is okay because QT/E worked the same way. It still would have been nice to have at least had a chapter on writing your device driver for say, the touchscreen. Ironically it wasn't getting use to writing C++ that was hard, it was just getting the TS to work. I guess what I was really looking for was a general QT reference and the appendix type chapters that aided in embedded systems. Some of the issues I dealt with were
Optimizing Libraries and their Function Calls
What utilites I needed and why
Dealing with Touchscreens
Ways to preserve the life of flash devices
How to handle graceful power ups and downs (e.g. battery dieing)
etc...etc...etc...
Like I said, I would have killed for a good book like that.
Give the option of buying the dead tree book or ebook. Always put the ebook in the dead tree book too.
I really like this idea myself. I am a huge fan of paper books, and try to avoid electronic books. However, the Complete Oracle 8 Reference was just too bulky to carry between work and home. I liked leaving the CD with PDFs at home so if something came up while I was watching TV, I had the complete reference available. However, the majority of the time I was reading the paper verison.
Its doubtful that having an AMD processor is related. If it is, its indirectly. For example, that might be the issue because everyone building AMD chipsets use the same RTC circuit. Therefore, this is a problem. I have Intel processors in my computer and the clock plays funny tricks from time to time.
No, it is not a BIOS battery issue. The battery only tracks the time when the system is powered down (and now with ATX power supplies when the poewr cord is disconnected.) Once any OS boots, it keeps track of time on its own via the RTC and counters. This is a software related issue. Its a known issue and usually its not this bad.
(i'm presuming you're using linux because you mentioned hwclock)
That's a pretty good assumption. Though, your powers of preception could have been put to rest on this one since he specficially said all three systems having this problem were running various flavors of Linux distros and kernels.
Well... not anymore. Sony started to break even on the hardware during this past holiday season. I don't think they are profiting yet, but they are no longer selling it at a total loss.
I'm kind of in the Happy/Sad camp myself. I was kind of excited that the PS2 had really neat hardware that I thought I'd get to play with. I guess not. I thought they would have least provided a layer in their RTE to allow us access to things like the 5.1 encoder. It'd be kind of fun to write stupid little demos and such. I don't mind so much about having to boot from the CD/DVD. I kind of expected that.
What would have been nice (and this doesn't surprise me) is being able to mount the memory cards as is. BUT I can totally understand why they aren't allowing it. Though if someone makes a hack for that, it'd be way fun.
That's what I thought. I just wonder if there will be support to pipe sound through the optical output. It'd be nice to use my ps2 has a mp3 player, but if it relies on PCM only, then oh well to that.
Erm. I dunno,I think you're walking on the edge of a bomb with that one. I'm for the camp that I don't give a fuck if that's entrapment. If you're willing to submit child porn to anyone (thus proving you're sick enough to have it) you deserve whatever happens to you. But that's just my opinion. If this is entrapment then I, for one, don't care in this case. Entrap every single one of them. Then cut their nuts off.
Oh come on now. I very much doubt that millions of your tax money has been wasted on these sites. I'm sure its much cheaper for your tax money to be spent on helping letimate company suffer when a couple thousand braindeads file chapter 11. As someone else posted, lets assume worse case they are spending $50k on this site alone. BFD. $50,000 is nothing spread over the millions of people in our country. Quite honestly, I feel that these sites are successful if just ONE person walks away from each site and says "Damn, How could I be so stupid?" Fortuantly the people that they will get through to are people who just haven't made the connection to reality yet. Granted I'm sure there are probably 100x more people who get to the last page and are still saying "BUT WHERE DO I INVEST????"
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screw conveyor belts. they can't make a pizza worth crap. real pizza is made in a stone oven.
This sounds a lot like Netrek. Orginially everyone was going to write their own clients. Ended up failing (more or less) because people were writing clients that could cheat. So in the end, only clients wrote by the maintainers get used anyway.
I meant the insulation on the wire. In this case I specifcally was thinking that the leads off of the battery would melt causing the encased copper to come in contact and possible great a direct short circuit.
That chart is Celsius. Your oven is Fahrenheit.
425(F) = 218(C).
I worked in a pizza place that used stone/gas ovens. We cooked at 425. 550 burned the hell out of the bottom of the dough before the cheese melted.
I sure hope someone can figure it out. I doubt I'll be doing any assembly optimizations in the future.
I've had to do worse, our logic analyzers have to decode the bus traffic to figure out what was going on. As you can imagine, the fact that 1 OP code could mean 4 different thigns depending on when it shows up (or what happened before it) poses a significant challenege. You might say "big deal." Sure, big deal, if you are developing a system. We have to be able to provide tools that are bug free BEFORE the first silicon hits market. That way when a guy in a lab encounters what looks like a bug isn't fighting our mistake.
I fear one day we are going to get to a point where we can't provide a solution for hardware engineers to probe their system with.
And if it has to be IA64, at the very least wait for McKinley - HP's engineers are supposed to be doing a much better job of IA64 than Intel did. Or even wait for the version after McKinley, which is supposed to profit from good ol' Alpha
The point of this article is to introduce you to the IA64 architecture, which McKinley and Madison are going to be based on. The point of developing for Itanium/Merced is to learn how IA64 is different from IA32 so that when you do a McKinley platform you are ready and not fighting with as many "what the hell is it doing now."
I've seen many protoytpes as well from HP and others and the reponse is not "it sucks." The response is "wow, we've got a lot of work ahead of us."
Yeah it is a power hog. For Merced there is a power pod that goes next to each "processor". That pod provides the power to the processor only. Then from there, there power is distributed to the L3, PAL, Core, etc. I'd imagine on the processor's core chip the power is distributed by a signfinicant amount of pins. Otherwise it'd be a bear to get the power evenly to different areas of the die.
As far as I can tell, current Itanium stuff is a mere curiosity.
Well right there you have already invalidated the rest of your comment. Intel is not going to have to do anything to get their IA64 architecture moving.
As announced, HP's new PA-RISC chipset will support both McKinley and their RISC processor. Sounds crazy but HP is doing it.
Furthermore nobody and I mean nobody is developing anything for AMD's 64bit systems. On the other hand I have seen significant interest in McKinely. True enough, Merced is just considered a development platform and is pretty much dead in the water. I work for a test and measurement company and I deal directly with our front side bus solutions. You are wrong. AMD is facing the same problems in the IA64 arena that they are in the IA32 arena. Intel's chips say Intel and theirs say AMD. So everybody is ignoring them, for now.
This is not to say that AMD can't come in beat them. I am just saying that Intel's solutions are already in development in many of the high-end server labs. I haven't seen a single group working on AMD's 64bit proc, nor have I been asked if we plan on supporting it.
Oh my god! I could not remember the name of that game! I have it stashed away somewhere in storage. My friend gave it to me because he couldn't figure out how to play it. (Well he wasn't actually a friend, just someone I knew.) I had no instruction manual and no idea what it was. I figured out how to play it all on my own and loved it! Man, I haven't thought about that game for a long long time.
Well the idea is you can only have 3 DVDs at a time. When I was a member I would watch one, send it back right away, and the next one in my queue would ship out. So I always had a continous cycling of DVDs. It was nice for when I was building up my DVD collection because I saved a bundle on rental charges.
No the internal PCB would probably be just fine. Anything plastic would be melted, such as wires. All of the components on the PCB go through a solder wave or a reflow oven. Those temps are much higher than what you'd be cooking a pizza at.
I've done it before. Its either that or prop a hairdryer up next to it. If you get the temp in the oven just a little over a 100 it helps dry it (or any other peice of electronics) much faster.
I think your question is a little vague. "... that have fairly advanced AI?" What does that mean? AI to do what? In my 3rd year of school we had to build robots that searched a maze, blew out a candle, and came home. It was a pretty smart robot. You could put ramps in the hallways, change the room after he finds the candle, or put 3 candles in a room.
What application are you looking for in regards to AI? Its highly doubtful AI will ever get to a point where you just install an EEPROM, turn it on, and the "thing" figures out why it is there.
Like I said, I would have killed for a good book like that.
Give the option of buying the dead tree book or ebook. Always put the ebook in the dead tree book too.
I really like this idea myself. I am a huge fan of paper books, and try to avoid electronic books. However, the Complete Oracle 8 Reference was just too bulky to carry between work and home. I liked leaving the CD with PDFs at home so if something came up while I was watching TV, I had the complete reference available. However, the majority of the time I was reading the paper verison.
Its doubtful that having an AMD processor is related. If it is, its indirectly. For example, that might be the issue because everyone building AMD chipsets use the same RTC circuit. Therefore, this is a problem. I have Intel processors in my computer and the clock plays funny tricks from time to time.
No, it is not a BIOS battery issue. The battery only tracks the time when the system is powered down (and now with ATX power supplies when the poewr cord is disconnected.) Once any OS boots, it keeps track of time on its own via the RTC and counters. This is a software related issue. Its a known issue and usually its not this bad.
(i'm presuming you're using linux because you mentioned hwclock)
That's a pretty good assumption. Though, your powers of preception could have been put to rest on this one since he specficially said all three systems having this problem were running various flavors of Linux distros and kernels.
Well... not anymore. Sony started to break even on the hardware during this past holiday season. I don't think they are profiting yet, but they are no longer selling it at a total loss.
I'm kind of in the Happy/Sad camp myself. I was kind of excited that the PS2 had really neat hardware that I thought I'd get to play with. I guess not. I thought they would have least provided a layer in their RTE to allow us access to things like the 5.1 encoder. It'd be kind of fun to write stupid little demos and such. I don't mind so much about having to boot from the CD/DVD. I kind of expected that.
What would have been nice (and this doesn't surprise me) is being able to mount the memory cards as is. BUT I can totally understand why they aren't allowing it. Though if someone makes a hack for that, it'd be way fun.
I'm addicted to playing the dating game. I don't know why. It never seems to work out.
That's what I thought. I just wonder if there will be support to pipe sound through the optical output. It'd be nice to use my ps2 has a mp3 player, but if it relies on PCM only, then oh well to that.
That's slashdot for you....
Erm. I dunno,I think you're walking on the edge of a bomb with that one. I'm for the camp that I don't give a fuck if that's entrapment. If you're willing to submit child porn to anyone (thus proving you're sick enough to have it) you deserve whatever happens to you. But that's just my opinion. If this is entrapment then I, for one, don't care in this case. Entrap every single one of them. Then cut their nuts off.
Oh come on now. I very much doubt that millions of your tax money has been wasted on these sites. I'm sure its much cheaper for your tax money to be spent on helping letimate company suffer when a couple thousand braindeads file chapter 11. As someone else posted, lets assume worse case they are spending $50k on this site alone. BFD. $50,000 is nothing spread over the millions of people in our country. Quite honestly, I feel that these sites are successful if just ONE person walks away from each site and says "Damn, How could I be so stupid?" Fortuantly the people that they will get through to are people who just haven't made the connection to reality yet. Granted I'm sure there are probably 100x more people who get to the last page and are still saying "BUT WHERE DO I INVEST????"