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What happens When You Cook Your Palm Pilot

Hal-kun writes "What happens when you put a Palm Pilot in the oven to dry with the warmth of the pilot light, only to have someone cook a Pizza while you were out? Take a look. Stick a fork in it, I think it's done."

251 comments

  1. Hahaha... by The+Great+Wakka · · Score: 2

    Wonder what it tasted like? Mmmm... Palm Pilot. However, the electronics don't look so damaged... Maybe it's salvagable?

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  2. Cooked Palm by LT4Ryan · · Score: 1

    My boss washed his in the washer, needless to say he never got another one.

    1. Re:Cooked Palm by sith · · Score: 1

      I put my Palm IIIxe through the washer last year. After taking it apart and drying everything off, it worked great. I think I wouldn't have been so lucky if it had gone through the drier. The only apparent side effect was that the accuracy of the digitizer would drift after about 30 minutes of use. The whole unit stopped working about a week ago, but I'm guessing that was more due to being banged in my pocket than the long ago washing machine event.

    2. Re:Cooked Palm by Nasheer · · Score: 1

      Scenario 1: my friend washed his motherboard. You know, spiderwebs, dust, all that little nasty things that live peacefully inside our everyday working tools. The worst: it worked again. Aparently he gave it enough time to dry, and where we live the humidity of the air makes the static discharges a minor problem. I wonder if it became more stable (after a "clean install").

      Scenario 2: another friend, who works for a computer company had a uncommon support request: a flood 2 years ago in our city left 10 machines underwater. The major problem was not the water itself, but the sand and other debris. They recovered 6 of the 10 machines.

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  3. LOL by sargon666777 · · Score: 1

    Now thats a good one... Why didnt he just disasemble it and use a hairdryer to dry it out LOL.... Nothing like fried Palm parts :-) Only thing better would have been the microwave

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    1. Re:LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be one of those "crash & catch fire" screen savers. He is lucky that the lithium ion battery didn't blow up.

  4. If you like this stuff... by kisrael · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...and don't mind a little blatant karma-whoring:
    The Palm Graveyard is dedicated to tales and pictures of Palms that have piloted their way to the choir invisible.

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    1. Re:If you like this stuff... by faqBastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also maybe we can get The Drop Squad guys to do some additional testing. :-)

  5. Over clocking by bluestar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shouldn't it just run faster?

    Oh, he over cooked it...

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    1. Re:Over clocking by bonzoesc · · Score: 2

      PDAs suck at multitasking. If it was an Athlon, he could overclock it and overcook it at the same time!

    2. Re:Over clocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice try ... but when you want to overclock things, you need to provide cooling, not heating. Pi1lock.

    3. Re:Over clocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you fooled the moderators into thinking the post 5 minutes earlier was "redundant". What did you accomplish?

    4. Re:Over clocking by jx100 · · Score: 1

      Heh, cool! a PDA/handwarmer!

    5. Re:Over clocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was a warmer, most people here would leave it in their front pants pocket.. not their hands.

  6. Bam! by Cyclopedian · · Score: 1

    Give it to Emeril. Then after he does his thing, it will finally be done for.
    -Cyc

    1. Re:Bam! by operagost · · Score: 1

      Kick it up a notch!

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  7. Gah... by Colin+Bayer · · Score: 2, Funny

    The nerve of this person, cooking a Palm in an oven!

    Everyone knows you're supposed to barbecue them!

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    1. Re:Gah... by CMiYC · · Score: 2

      I've done it before. Its either that or prop a hairdryer up next to it. If you get the temp in the oven just a little over a 100 it helps dry it (or any other peice of electronics) much faster.

    2. Re:Gah... by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      100 degrees! that would melt it terribly. you dont want it over 50.

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  8. Eeek! by Admiral+Llama · · Score: 1

    Hope they got the service plan. Still nothing compared to what happens to technology in the microwave.

  9. Fully intact? by EchoMirage · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interestingly, the electronics looked to be pretty intact for the temperature it was cooked at, and the screen didn't look too bad. I'd say those Palm VIIx's are fairly resilient. Too bad they're so big.

    This brings up another interesting question, however. Are there "rugged" PDAs that are able to take a beating? I know that Fellowes sells a bumper case that's supposed to protect Palms, but how durable are they? Does somebody make a "rugged" PDA?

    1. Re:Fully intact? by iansmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are many rugged PDAs out there. Just look into companies that sell items for "Shop Floor Data Collection" and similar enviroments. They are designed to withstand greasy fingers, drops onto concrete, vibration and other abuse.

      Some shops have so much oil in the air, any paper left in the open becomes soaked completely in 12 hours. Not to mention open air warehouses that can get extremely hot or cold.

      However, nothing is going to protect against extreme heat. You can't keep a closed system cool, and thats what you have in an oven. At least, nothing that will last very long and can fit in your pocket.

    2. Re:Fully intact? by oregon · · Score: 2, Informative

      The screen will have been ruined though; liquid crystals are very temperature sensitive.

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    3. Re:Fully intact? by smcv · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I could do with a toughened PDA too. I use a 2.5 year old Psion 3c, which has been dropped, left in a bag or coat pocket, etc. a few times too many... luckily the outer casing on Psions is slightly rubberized, which must decrease the impacts quite a bit :-)

      So far it's had the connection to the screen replaced, then had the right side of the hinge replaced (both under warranty), and now the warranty's run out and the left hinge is starting to go. Those complicated 3-way Psion hinges (the screen, keyboard/base and battery compartment are all separate and hinged together) are wonderfully clever, but rather too flimsy for my liking... anyone know if the Revo's any better? Or if there's a similarly small palmtop that's actually designed to take a few impacts?

    4. Re:Fully intact? by SGDarkKnight · · Score: 1

      I dunno, i still think pen and paper would be the most rugged item you could get

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    5. Re:Fully intact? by mmontour · · Score: 2

      Interestingly, the electronics looked to be pretty intact for the temperature it was cooked at,

      It's not too surprising; surface-mount components are attached to circuit boards by applying solder paste, then passing the whole board through a reflow oven to melt the solder.

    6. Re:Fully intact? by inburito · · Score: 2

      Try this with your palm.. Take a magnifying glass, go out to fry ants, wonder what would happen if the beam briefly touched your palm's screen, try.. cry..

      Trust me, it doesn't take much exposure to fry that lcd screen. Granted, I didn't waste my palm but rather an ancient 5$ digital watch.. And this was way back when I was 8 back in the 80s, but still..

    7. Re:Fully intact? by Chelloveck · · Score: 2

      What, you mean like these?

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  10. Funny by matth · · Score: 2, Redundant

    That's really funny. I've actually dried out electronic stuff this way before and it usually does work, as long as someone doesn't come along and try to use the oven hehehe =]. Bet the company wasn't too happy.

    1. Re:Funny by linzeal · · Score: 1
      I had just moved into a new apartment and none of my furniture had arrived but I had taken all 3 car loads of my electronic crap from my x gf. So strewn throughout the floor of the apartment were servers, workstations, and stereo equipment.

      After about three hours of setting up my servers in a walk in closet and using my laptop to send my x a final fuck you letter I went out and bought some cheap mexican beer and quickly became inebriated and fell asleep on the floor with my backpack as a pillow.

      As nightmares of my x rattled in my brain something terrible began to happen in the supporting wall of my apartment. The ceiling became endowed in a matter of hours with a multitude of huge white teets like the roman she-wolfof lore. Rippling gigantic tits.

      Those tits were the paint holding in excess of a gallon of water a peice, the water main had blown, and my electronics were in 2 inches of water. I dried my electronic outside it was a 110 degree arizona summer and the only thing I lost was an answering machine that sounded like you were underwater when you played anything on it.

      Needless to say I had my apartment upgraded to a better one for free by management and they paid me 2000 dollars to pretty much stop me from calling the authorities. This was a brand new apartment complex and the water main for the entire building ran through that supporting wall and it was only a 3 inch in diamater plastic pipe that had appearently shattered due to the pressure.

    2. Re:Funny by dxkelly · · Score: 1

      Had a similiar sounding experience. I worked at a small isp once. The servers and modem pool were across the road in a small building. Unknown to the guy renting the place a water pipe was flowing through the ceiling of the server building. The thing blew. It looked like a damn rain forest when we got in there.

    3. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A true server pool in other words.

  11. mmmmmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mmmmm. palm pizza

  12. Okay... by cdrj · · Score: 2, Funny

    This would be news if the device actually still ran after melting. "The indestructable Palm Pilots..."

  13. A whole new meaning... by abh · · Score: 5, Funny

    To the term "HotSync" :)

    1. Re:A whole new meaning... by Ken+Dale · · Score: 1

      Id like to put that thing in the cradle and hit the button ... just to see what it would say ... that is if u can ever get that deformed mess in the cradle

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  14. The poor thing...! by blackwizard · · Score: 1

    I wonder how my Palm Vx would take it -- the casing being metal and all... no doubt the buttons, the screen, and the internal PCB would be toast...

    1. Re:The poor thing...! by CMiYC · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No the internal PCB would probably be just fine. Anything plastic would be melted, such as wires. All of the components on the PCB go through a solder wave or a reflow oven. Those temps are much higher than what you'd be cooking a pizza at.

    2. Re:The poor thing...! by Bryan+Andersen · · Score: 3, Informative
      Those temps are much higher than what you'd be cooking a pizza at.

      Actually, no they aren't. Proper pizza cooking should be done at about the same temps. Those frozen ready made pizzas all cook at low temps. I grew up cooking pizza in an oven set at 550F. I don't remember the exact temperatures used in reflow, but I had calculated that a convection oven that reaches 500F would do fine. 250C seames to pop up as a likely maximum temperature.

    3. Re:The poor thing...! by JabberWokky · · Score: 1, Redundant
      Those temps are much higher than what you'd be cooking a pizza at.

      Reheating, maybe. Cooking pizza is usually above the 200 - 230 degrees or so that a reflow oven heats things to.

      And I just learned that in this thread. Ha! I learned something from Slashdot. And the skies are full of blood. Hurm.

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    4. Re:The poor thing...! by Bnonn · · Score: 1
      • Anything plastic would be melted, such as wires.

      Darn, I really am behind the times--here I was thinking that wires were still made with copper! When did they start switching over? I'm sure it wasn't on Slashdot...I'd know if it was!

    5. Re:The poor thing...! by CMiYC · · Score: 2

      I worked in a pizza place that used stone/gas ovens. We cooked at 425. 550 burned the hell out of the bottom of the dough before the cheese melted.

    6. Re:The poor thing...! by CMiYC · · Score: 2

      That chart is Celsius. Your oven is Fahrenheit.

      425(F) = 218(C).

    7. Re:The poor thing...! by CMiYC · · Score: 2

      I meant the insulation on the wire. In this case I specifcally was thinking that the leads off of the battery would melt causing the encased copper to come in contact and possible great a direct short circuit.

    8. Re:The poor thing...! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes yes, I was being a smart arse. I'm not really that silly ;) --Bnonn

    9. Re:The poor thing...! by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      i work at a pizza place. cook at 275C for 8 minutes. (conveyor belt oven)

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    10. Re:The poor thing...! by CMiYC · · Score: 1

      screw conveyor belts. they can't make a pizza worth crap. real pizza is made in a stone oven.

  15. hmmm... by matth · · Score: 1

    You think the warranty will cover that? =]
    Perhaps a microwave would have been the better way to go. Dry it from the inside out :)

  16. One thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope the pizza didn't get ruined.

  17. On that same note... by fm6 · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hear that microwave ovens are really great for drying off your poodle after a shampoo!

    1. Re:On that same note... by autocracy · · Score: 2

      Yeah - boom!

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  18. Insert favourite... by Ozan · · Score: 1

    ...consumer protection activist comment
    here:



  19. Hoax ?! by Tha_Zanthrax · · Score: 1

    The story that goes with the pics is a bit weird...
    /me thinks it's a hoax.

    Still, great pics !

  20. Ooops, overdone... by supernova87a · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess he didn't purchase the Palm eMeatThermometer2.0(TM) attachment. That, plus the optional wireless add-on pack, should have alerted his pager to pull it out of there in time...

    Sounds like a PalmPilot in the hand is better than two in the oven...

  21. Obligatory X-Men Quote! by Dimwit · · Score: 5, Funny

    Storm: What happens when you cook a Palm Pilot?

    Storm: The same thing that happens to everything else.

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    1. Re:Obligatory X-Men Quote! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if he puts his Palm VII in Teh Oven with only the pilot light on

    2. Re:Obligatory X-Men Quote! by stesch · · Score: 1

      There are two quotes from X-Men everyone remembers. And both are from Joss Whedon.

      funny

  22. Can I get fries with that? by Marillion · · Score: 2, Funny

    Soon to be a #11 at a fast food restaurant neat you!

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    1. Re:Can I get fries with that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd prefer chips with it :-)

    2. Re:Can I get fries with that? by Cheetah86 · · Score: 1

      For this model, it should be a #7. (Its a palm VII).

  23. Forget the palm pilot by flikx · · Score: 1

    I'd be pissed if the pizza came out tasting like plastic. What we need are pictures of that pizza.

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  24. Slow day for news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Maybe if we're really good, we can see what a CD of XP looks like if you put it in the microwave.

    1. Re:Slow day for news by GCH · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not XP, but you can checkout a video of one of those wonderful AOL CD's in the microwave here: http://www.bashcast.com/doc/content/microwaveCD/mi crowaveCD.htm

    2. Re:Slow day for news by penguinboy · · Score: 2

      Windows 2000 CD meets a fire.

  25. Actually, though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You really can, and people actually do dry out circuits by baking them. If he had removed the LCD, plastic case, and batteries it might have survived.

    1. Re:Actually, though... by Catiline · · Score: 1

      But PalmPilots aren't designed for the LCD or case to be removed! (Some models batteries too! V's and Visors have internal batteries; there are others.) So in order to have it survive in an oven, you have to kill it first...

      Chalk up one more loss for a tech-dumb soul attempting to do something geeky. I'm sure if this were a /.er we were talking about, the handheld in question would have survived (and maybe even run faster afterwards.)

  26. You Think That's Great? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of ovens cooking that thing...

  27. Electronics and Ovens by iansmith · · Score: 4, Informative

    Using an oven to dry out electronics isn't all that absurd.

    When I was working in hardware design, many IC's that were designed to be wave soldered had to be totally free of moisture. They came shipped in air tight containers with humidity cards to tell you if they were exposed to too much moisture.

    If they were not dry enough, the procedure was to bake them in an oven at several hundred degrees for a while.

    Now, LCD's and plastics and other materials would not be too happy with that treatment. As others noted, a hair dryer will work to get it mostly dry. I'd suggest leaving it in a warm, dry area for at least a day after to make sure.

    I once spilled an *entire* glass of water into an old Comodore 1541 disk drive. The scary thing, is they contained their own power supply. And it was on. After a day or so of drying, it worked fine.

    Not so for the Commodore 128 that took a glass of grape juice (real, not flavored) into the keyboard. Although it was funny watching the keys sloooowly depress in the order you typed them in...

    1. Re:Electronics and Ovens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generally, electronics are pretty resiliant. You'd be surpirsed to know what some can go through.

      I had a garmin GPS unit freeze in a solid block of ice in the back of my pickup (forgot it was there). This wasn't a model that was designed to be water resistant; most of Garmins' units are water resistant today. Anyway, I let it thaw, then I took it apart and washed the insides down with an isopropyl alcohol bath (except the LCD), put it back together, and it was good as new.

      The LCD was kinda fuzzy, granted, but the rest worked wonderfully!

    2. Re:Electronics and Ovens by taj · · Score: 1

      Once a year I take a power washer to my keyboards. Takes a day or so to dry out. no big deal. They work better without the cat hair and pizza crumbs.

    3. Re:Electronics and Ovens by caffeinated_bunsen · · Score: 1

      I used to wash my trackball on a regular basis. Just take it apart, wash each piece in warm, soapy water, rinse thoroughly, and let dry for half an hour or so (depends on humidity). Never had a problem with it.

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    4. Re:Electronics and Ovens by castlan · · Score: 1

      I had a similar experience with my 1541. I was playing Pool of Radiance at the time. My dad sliced the plastic floppy covering to remove the floppy disk media, and propped the floppy casing open with Q-tips so the felt inner lining could dry.

      To this day, I still have the cherished 5.25" floppy, resealed in electrical tape. Of course, sides 3 and 4 (on disk 2) are reversed.

      I suspect that a nice fresh water dousing would have done some good for your C=128.
      My few rediculous 486 cooling experiments haven't fared nearly as well.

  28. not edible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately this product is not edible, and believe me, I tried. Boy did I wake up with a stomach ache the next morning.

  29. Tastes like... by cruiserman · · Score: 4, Funny

    chicken of course, well at least my mother-in-laws chicken.

    1. Re:Tastes like... by Professor+J+Frink · · Score: 1
      well at least my mother-in-laws chicken

      Really? I dread to think what you had to do to find this out.

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  30. I wonder by MoneyT · · Score: 1

    What do you think he does when his laptop gets wet?

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    1. Re:I wonder by Cheetah86 · · Score: 1

      Puts pepperoni on it?

    2. Re:I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess the really interesting question is what he's gonna do when he got his girlfriend "wet".

  31. Obviously FAKE by Lord+Hugh+Toppingham · · Score: 0
    This is so obviously faked. I am getting just a bit fed up with all this so-called 'geek humor' based on the idea of moronic users and managers and hyper-intelligent geeks who 'get it'.


    It does not square up with my experience of the real world. Most of the technical guys where I work are none too smart, and the manegement all seem to have MBAs or further degrees. I wish all the jealousy and playa-hating would stop.


    Geeks are not better than everyone else, and their so-called humor is not funny

    1. Re:Obviously FAKE by Latent+IT · · Score: 1

      Heehee... I'm trying to picture an MBA-type calling himself a playa. ;p

    2. Re:Obviously FAKE by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 0

      This from a guy with a Flash heavy homepage.

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    3. Re:Obviously FAKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spiralx, are you all sad since Kuro5hin died? Do you cry into your Coco Puffs?

      Thought so.

  32. So what if it's fake? by AnamanFan · · Score: 1

    If it's fake or if it's true, it's still a laugh!

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  33. Deliberate cooking! by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is there anyone that actually thinks this was an accident? This "exec" cooked his Palm so he could get the "latest and greatest" as a replacement.

    I know a lot of people who have done the same thing. Your laptop seem a big sluggish? Drop it on the pavement "by accident"... and bingo... the IT department hands you a shiny new blazingly fast feature filled replacement.

    It doesn't take a genius to figure out what really happened.

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    1. Re:Deliberate cooking! by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Worse than that we had people having their laptops "stolen" and getting replacements. During the last few days of a dot com I was working at 5 or so people (including a VP) had their laptops stolen and replaced with the little operating cash that was left.

    2. Re:Deliberate cooking! by jsse · · Score: 2

      I don't think he could cover the lost as 'accident' as it's he who put the Palm into oven.

      There are many hi-tech devices were ruined by PHB each year and the number is increasing. It's mainly due to the fact that household kitchen-ware is the only electric devices they could understand how to use. You'll use tools you acquainted with to fix things right? Same thing applied to PHB.

    3. Re:Deliberate cooking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The smell of melting plastic is pretty noticable. I bet the whole thing is a fraud.

      Personal experience: Years ago someone at work hated their laptop (ie - wanted a new one). It kept "breaking". I kept repairing it and giving it back to them. Then one day I saw them pour a can of soda into the keyboard (with the unit on). It was fried pretty good.

      Oh yes, they did in fact, get a new laptop because their old one was 'broken' then. So this trick works.

    4. Re:Deliberate cooking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed, the smell is terrible, one time i preheated the oven when a cake from the store was put in there for safe keeping :/

    5. Re:Deliberate cooking! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally witnessed such an "accident" one time. My boss. Bulky old cell phone. Staircase. I think we all knew why he "lost his grip".

    6. Re:Deliberate cooking! by sckeener · · Score: 1

      the IT department hands you a shiny new blazingly fast feature filled replacement.

      that is why you want some standards in your department...that way he gets the same thing again minus the data.

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    7. Re:Deliberate cooking! by The+Whinger · · Score: 1

      He didn't take the SIM card out first did he? ;)

  34. Sounds like... by Colin+Bayer · · Score: 3, Funny

    we've got a new addition for the geek cookbook!

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    1. Re:Sounds like... by flyingember · · Score: 1

      nah

  35. *ahem* by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

    Stick a fork in it, I think it's done.

    Perhaps you can try giving Meldroc, the person who said it, credit?

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    1. Re:*ahem* by Jailbrekr · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid you have just violated patent #653895674654, the "Transmission of non humorous sarcasm via a point to point electronic transfer communication system".

      My lawyers will be in contact with you to arrange an appropriate licensing fees......

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    2. Re:*ahem* by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      I'm afraid you have just violoated my patent, #234562234, Transmission of a patent violation notice via a public messaging system.

      My lawyers will be in touch with you shortly.

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  36. How barbaric! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No.. you don't BBQ them.. Everyone *knows* that with a VIIx you flambet them with a lovely white wine and cream sauce...

    Mmmmm....

  37. Is it just me... by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or has anyone else noticed that the most sure-fire way to get an article on Slashdot is to wreck complex electronics?

    Pouring concrete in a PC case, cooking your Palm Pilot, what's next? Xbox tossing? eBook flushing? Blasting a new iMac with a high-powered laser? Okay, that last one would be cool.

    1. Re:Is it just me... by oregon · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Is it just me... by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 1

      Most all computer parts and/or related electronics make great targets.

      You haven't lived until you've seen a 1 ounce 12 gauge shotgun slug slam into an external exabyte 8500 tape drive.

    3. Re:Is it just me... by llin · · Score: 1

      Well, not quite a high-powered laser, but some of you might remember the controversial shoot the crap out of the iMac Epinions ad.

  38. One sign you're a geek... by Navius+Eurisko · · Score: 3, Funny

    if you are putting Palm pilots on pizzas as toppings. :)

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  40. Amazing new development ... by muck1969 · · Score: 1
    ... let's your Palm operate with the same efficiency as any Windows-based product.

    Cook for one hour at 375` and soon all system resources will melt into a globulous wad of uselessness ... just like Windows!

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    1. Re:Amazing new development ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That looks like someone hack in an athlon in their Palm and fogot about the heatsink.
      Melts in you oven, not in your hands.

  41. But what happened... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...to the pizza dammit, was it saved, was it tasty, was it delectable, did it taste like burnt plastic?

    1. Re:But what happened... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was from Pizza Hut, then the Palm wouldn't even be needed to make it smell like burnt plastic

  42. Bake the tape! by jsse · · Score: 2

    I wondered why there are so many PHBs believe in kitchen-ware could fix hi-tech devices.

    My friend, an Oracle DBA consultant, was given a difficult task to revive a very old tape which contained very important data. He tried so many methods in vain until he found out the tape manufacturer did provide service to 'bake' the tape. Yes! bake the tape to revive the tape. We don't know how and what they use to bake the tape, but they really said it is some process to 'bake' the tape to make the tape 'readable' again.

    My friend solved the problem. A month later, the same client called, saying that their PHB, in an attempt to save money, baking tapes that he found problems - with (you bet) house oven.

    This time, my friend declined to help(of course.)

    1. Re:Bake the tape! by dkm · · Score: 2, Informative

      The USGS Earth Resource Observation System Data Center has an archive of satellite imagery of the Earth from a large number of sensors. They have a specially build oven to bake older (e.g., Landsat MSS from the 1970's) tapes prior to transfering the data onto newer media. I think the baking helps keep the different surfaces of the tape from sticking to each other when they are not supposed to.

      I think the recipe is something like 200 degrees F for 24 hours.

    2. Re:Bake the tape! by irksome · · Score: 1

      I've baked hockey skates before, but I've never had to bake backup tapes.

      -

  43. Mother's always right by rant-mode-on · · Score: 2, Funny

    My mother always said that bad things would come from Palm abuse...

    1. Re:Mother's always right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gives new meaning to Palm warmers...

  44. new style of case design by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 2

    The "wild molten" look...Apple, are you paying attention? heh heh

    Once I had to clean out a calculator that I spilled cranberry juice in, I dunked the parts in denatured alcohol (ethanol or isopropyl with very low water content) which I assumed would clean out the cranberry juice and drive out the water. The calculator (TI85) still works fine today......"teh oven" is "teh bad idea" I think.

    1. Re:new style of case design by oregon · · Score: 1

      denatured means it has had poison added, not necessarily that it is low water content.

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    2. Re:new style of case design by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      You are correct, but I think he said that so people wouldn't try it with rubbing alcohol, which normally is 30% water.

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  45. Cooked Palm Taste? by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Dunno about taste of the Palm Pilot, but I'm sure the pizza tasted like hell (from personal experience.) I hope they tossed it, rather than eat it, burnt plastic residue would settle on the pizza and probably make it toxic, besides just tasting that way.

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    1. Re:Cooked Palm Taste? by starduste · · Score: 3, Funny

      Being stupid enough to leave a Palm Pilot unattended in the oven, I hope everyone in that household had second helpings of the pizza - thus choking on the toxic waste, dying, an earning first place in the Darwin Awards. Evolution - ain't it grand?

  46. But it does work... by rosewood · · Score: 2

    my aunt dropped her palm vx in the toilet (fell out of her purse) with her cell phone

    Well, she put them in the oven on a cookie sheet on a very low heat and sure enough - it worked

    However, both stopped working over some time. The plus is that the plam was able to sync and was able to be replaced 'under warrenty' and same with the phone

    There was no definate corelation between the water and stop working but I am pretty sure that some things that were exposed to water eventually corroded.

    1. Re:But it does work... by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 2

      I managed to soak my cell phone during the huge floods we had in Houston last summer. I was pushing my car out of the water and forgot I had my cell in my pocket. It was a Nokia 5100 series phone with an aftermarket Lithium vibrating battery. I just left it sitting on the counter for a week and it worked fine. Still works, in fact, same battery and all. I thought it would be much more sensitive but after I recharged it it worked fine. There's a little corrosion on the battery (it has a clear case) but all the water is gone. You shouldn't need an oven, just let it dry by itself.

  47. Cock my Palm Pilot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the hell would I want to cock my Palm Pilot, I got a girlfriend for th...Ohhh, Cooook.

  48. The results from the latest slashdot poll: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the 4th of February we asked the question: "Who do you love to have sex with???" Lets check out our results.
    24.9% -- The hole of a Lunix CD
    2.5% -- A relative
    4.9% -- That Charmer from Goatse(CmdrTaco)
    12.9% -- My Blow-up-Whale look-alike of CowboyNeal
    54.8% -- I'll stick to CowboyNeals ass

    1. Re:The results from the latest slashdot poll: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grab the next motherfucker marmaduke who refuses to submit to these pelvic ostentations.

      I've stumbled upon a brain fart which melts away your molds!

  49. Actually... by SlashChick · · Score: 2

    ...if you look at the pictures, it is the new one. He replaced his old Palm III with the new one, which subsequently got cooked.

    Anyway, with the budget restrictions curently in effect at most companies, that rule doesn't apply any more. All of the employees where I work have been told, "If your laptop dies, you get a desktop machine." Since most of us already have a desktop machine, that means we get nada if our laptops break. Scary...

  50. Next time, you should instead: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grab the next motherfucker marmaduke who refuses to submit to these pelvic ostentations.

    I've stumbled upon a brain fart which melts away your molds!

    1. Re:Next time, you should instead: by Scoria · · Score: 1

      Another Incubus fan, perhaps? :p

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  51. Computer cooking courses available on-line . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Somewhere, probably. If you're in the sick mood for more hosed computer stuff:

    http://www.mikey-san.net/static/bucket/everythin g_ apart.jpg
    http://www.mikey-san.net/static/bucket/trackpad. jp g
    http://www.mikey-san.net/static/bucket/power_sup pl y_card.jpg

    These are pictures of a PowerBook G3 that decided to fry itself after several years of use.

    Cooked, big time. Makes you wonder how many other computer damage pictures are floating around on the Internet.

    -/-
    Mikey-San
    mikey-san@bungie.org

  52. Another unfortunate instance by jsse · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Do you know how to check whether a microwave oven has leakage? I saw an article suggest to put a mobile phone into the microwave oven and call the phone. Because the mobile wave spectrum in the microwave band, if the metal cast failed to prevent microwave passing thru, then the phone will ring.

    I'm not the only one who read the same article. A PHB in another section would like to check whether the pantry's microwave oven has leakage with this method - later he complaint to the columist why he didn't warn the readers NOT to press the 'Start' button.

    May be the columist must make the disclaimer 'People with IQ below 100 shouldn't read the following...'. :)

    1. Re:Another unfortunate instance by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

      That certainly will not work. The cavity of the microwave oven is not a perfect "Faraday cage" so it won't keep RF out. However, it should be resonant at the frequency that the oven's magnetron uses, so it won't radiate (kind of - it's all very complicated).

      The only real way to check for leakage is to use a proper detector.

  53. Obviously... by Chuqmystr · · Score: 0
    The real story is that Simon was hung over again and filling in on the hell desk the day he called in to get assistance with syncing his Palm data with his HappyHomemaker kitchen Internet apliance...
    "Here, hold this wire for me..."

    /sbin/fsck -U micro$oft

  54. Re: Strange things have happened before... by fireboy1919 · · Score: 2

    I used to read Nintendo Power back in the day when 8 bit systems walked the earth.

    One of the soldiers took his gameboy with him to Desert Storm, and it got toasted by a grenade, according to one issue.

    They showed a picture that looked about like that Palm Pilot did - but Tetris was running on it. It still worked! Of course, the screen was really difficult to see, since half of it was burnt off, but at least it did *something*.

    There used to be a gameboy "game" called a workboy, which was basically a PDA. Maybe I should get one of those instead of a Palm. Then I won't have to worry about it breaking.

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  55. Another unfortunate name by The+Smith · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So, yesterday we had "arse digiter", and today we have "arse techniquer". This is getting a bit wierd...

  56. Did he come home to find... by sunhou · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...a slice of pizza in his Palm charging/sync cradle, and his roommate hoping he wouldn't notice anything wrong?

  57. This is exactly what I needed today. by YoDave · · Score: 1

    Today is my daughters birthday. I gave her guess what... a palm pilot.

    Thanks a lot Slashdot. I feel much better now.

  58. This isn't news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is my personal opinion. I really don't think this is really all that important. We've seen other electronics being fried and killed on Slashdot before. It would be diffrent if the ting fried like that by trying to play Quake III.

  59. And it doesn't work? by MBCook · · Score: 2

    And it doesn't work anymore? Back in my day, we could get our PDAs wed, burn them, have the cattle eat them, pass them, then freeze them, and they STILL had that new PDA smell! What has the world come to???

    Seriously though that kind of neat. Personally I think that it would be insteresting to find out what fresh-baked Palms smell like. I guess I'll never find out because I don't have a Palm to waste (I don't have one period), and second I have to say I'd be suprised if it DIDN'T put off toxic fumes. My only real question for the guy who's Palm that was is this: how did the pizza taste? Does silicone enhance the flavor? Did you try putting the Palm in a light Bernet sauce?

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  60. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  61. So.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did the batteries explode all over the pizza?

  62. Re:Saturday night fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seize the following motherfuckermarmaduke, which rejects, to submit with this basin of east doing ion.

    I gestolpert after a Gehirnfart, which melts away your forms!

  63. Slashdot Story Shamelessness by Lethyos · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    This is really pathetic. I am sorry, but I want to point this out that there are literally thousands of sites out there with pictures and stories of ruined hardware. Why is this one worthy of a spot on the front page? I'm sure a large majority of us have submitted what we considered valuable, informative, or interesting stories, only to get rejected less than 30 seconds after submission.

    Now, here's a guy who was a total numbnut who got his Palm fried.

    Big deal.

    From now on, if you want to get your story posted on /.'s front page, all you have to do is take an axe to some hardware, photograph it, and be like "whoops, I was chopping wood when my PC accidently slid under the blade."

    Wake up, editors.

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    1. Re:Slashdot Story Shamelessness by Zed2K · · Score: 1

      If you don't care why did you bother to read it? Troll

    2. Re:Slashdot Story Shamelessness by Lethyos · · Score: 1

      Because if something is posted as a story to the front page, then I expect it to have a certain degree of depth. I expect it to be somewhat profound. Not just some silly message board post. The reason I looked, with that in mind, is because matters regarding Palms interests me. My first impression was that I was going to read something about the integrity and quality of Palm hardware. Not, "hey look at this jackass did." Flamebait.

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      Why bother.
    3. Re:Slashdot Story Shamelessness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      From now on, if you want to get your story posted on /.'s front page, all you have to do is take an axe to some hardware, photograph it, and be like "whoops, I was chopping wood when my PC accidently slid under the blade."

      Really? Is that so? In that case, I say we put your theory into place. Someone get an axe, chop into the nearest ATX case, and take a photo of it, with the axe still kinda hanging there in the thing.

      Then say, "yeah, I was chopping wood and my PC accidentally slid under the blade... oh, and by the way, Iran issued a new warning to U.S."

      And your story is posted. Pretty soon, Slashdot is filled with pictures of axed computers, but hey, there'll be a message behind each one, you know.
    4. Re:Slashdot Story Shamelessness by Zed2K · · Score: 0, Redundant

      You want depth and profound? You know this is Slashdot right?

  64. My Palm Pilot... by KellyMann · · Score: 1

    I bought one of the Palm Pilots that came out in early 2000 and had the clear case. I "accidently" put min in the microwave. See it here: http://www.nerdtreehouse.com

    1. Re:My Palm Pilot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well folks, there isn't any linkage to the aforementioned microwaved palm on nerdtreehouse.com. I dont know what the user means.

  65. Show us what we want by fleener · · Score: 2

    Like I care about a cooked Palm Pilot. Where's the photo of the pizza???

  66. He told the truth because... by chip_s_ahoy · · Score: 1

    He is a "Head Executive". He therefore is not expected to know better about anything to do with technology.

    So he has immunity from firing for stupid, wasteful things like this. But he could be fired for parking in CEO's parking place.

    1. Re:He told the truth because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think hiring him was the more expensive mistake.

  67. I love Palms... :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /me weeps unashamedly at the wanton destruction of an innocent PalmOS device

    I love PalmOS devices, even such ugly-ducklings as the Palm VII.
    It makes me sad to see one mistreated so :-(

    /me believes that all PalmOS devices are God's children, even the ugly ones

    1. Re:I love Palms... :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope to hell you're the one who posted this *exact same comment* on the Ars thread, young man...

  68. Upgrade Program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who works for Palm I'd like to inform the owner of the Extra Crispy Tasty(tm) Palm VIIx that if they can still read the serial number they qualify for the upgrade program. :)

  69. what about the pizza by gilko · · Score: 1

    i hope the pizza came out not tasting like plastic.

  70. oh my... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    chalk one up for "stimulating the economy" :-)

  71. Info Re:Bake the tape! by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is Legit, as seen here:

    http://www.tangible-technology.com/tape/baking1.ht ml

    When baked, the tape will expand and become loose around the hub. For this reason, use flanges to protect the tape from coming apart. Cooking temperature is between 130F and 140F. Tapes wound on plastic reels with small hubs should be rewound onto large reels with NAB hubs. Be careful to thread the tape around the hub without any "folds." The goal is to minimize "mechanical distortions" that can be impressed upon subsequent layers causing dropouts. The "wind" must be smooth as if played!!!

    I have received several e-mails regarding "cooking time" and temperature. Provided the wind is smooth, I am not afraid to bake a quarter inch tape at 135F -- for two hours -- flipping every half-hour. You will find that cooking time varies with tape width, type, brand, condition and the number of reels being baked. Ampex tape from the seventies might require twice as much time as 3M tape from the eighties (as reported by Wendy Carlos when restoring her masters from that time period). Table One below can be used as a guide.

    Other links:

    http://www.audio-restoration.com/baking.htm

    which indicate that this may not be a permanent solution, but is intended for tapes manufactered from the mid 70's forward, which had a tendency to absorb mosture.

    http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/1996_articles/may96/s alvagearchives.html

    is also good, and indicates that home ovens do not go low enough.

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  72. Is this symbolic to palm's future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is the market getting a little to hot for palm? Is the next stop to the deep fryer?

    I'll bet a case of beer Bill has a pick of this on his desktop.

  73. ROFL. That's classic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Help desk people. hahhaha. Sounds like a BOFH moment.

  74. I prefer mine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with a little bit o' tabasco! :-P

  75. What a fucktard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...surely he would know not to put a peice of tech like that in teh oven :-/

  76. Beefy Dutch men by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    beefy Dutch men

    Hey, now!

    What's wrong with beefy Dutch men!?

  77. Think the warranty... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...will cover that? :-D

  78. And they all come out by Uberminky · · Score: 2, Funny
    It never ceases to amaze me how many utterly stupid jokes a bunch of geeks can come up with when given a good seed. This has got to be some kind of record. The number of "Funny" ratings is staggering (and yet the number of genuinely funny posts is nearly nonexistant). Someone needs to study this phenomenon.

    To get back on-topic.. (because we can't STAND to read a post that's not on the topic of burnt PDAs in a burnt PDA article.. that would be a waste of TIME!) Yeah, I think burnt PDAs are really cool. Hey, I could.. make a.. ummmm.. burnt PDA.. sandwich. Hahahahaha. Imagine a beowulf cluster of those. roflol.

    Oi..... Son of the bloody monkey.

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    1. Re:And they all come out by Uberminky · · Score: 1

      Wow, something is screwy here. At the time of this writing, there was only one moderation made on the parent post (+1, Funny, what irony), and yet on my screen it says its score is 5. Now there is some fine work. Taco must be a beta tester for that system mentioned in the "Quantum Programming in Perl" article... Fascinating stuff, that quantum programming.

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  79. Obvious mistake by maggard · · Score: 2
    "What happens when you put a Palm Pilot in the oven to dry with the warmth of the pilot light, only to have someone cook a Pizza while you were out?

    Foolish PHB, everyone knows you use a Microwave, not a Gas Oven!

    Some people...

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    1. Re:Obvious mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pizza from the microwave tastes crap.

      Some people...

  80. Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you telling us that your users tell you the truth, without you needing to question them for an hour?

    This is obviously a hoax ;-)

    1. Re:Wait a second... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either he's incredibly clever or incredibly stupid :-) (me thinks the latter)

  81. I don't buy it by erroneus · · Score: 2

    This is a classic deception.

    The reality is that he was attempting to overclock that puppy to 30GHz.

    Now let that be a lesson to everyone!

    1. Re:I don't buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice try ... but when you want to overclock things, you need to provide cooling, not heating. Pillock.

    2. Re:I don't buy it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh for...look, if you can't get a simple Geek joke, just shut up. Fucktard.

  82. Well, did they try to power it on? by John+Whorfin · · Score: 1

    No mention if they flicked it on.

    Anyone remember the "baked Apple" ads where some guy had his house burn down around his Apple II and after Apple replaced the melted case it worked fine.

    Yeah, I know, the Palm is probably toast, but if it could be made to work, they have the coolest case mod ever :)

  83. The oven. What an idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The microwave is obviously the right way to dry it off!

  84. Needs new warning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this how the warnings section of consumer product manuals get so large?

    One story, one comment:

    The story: My college roommate and I were riding our motorcycles to his mom's place for post-Thanksgiving dinner when we got drenched in a rainstorm. My roommate put his boots in the oven to dry by the heat of the pilot. This was fine till after dinner his mom decided the oven needed cleaning and switched it to self clean before we moved to the livingroom for dessert and games. We discovered the mistake when the smoke detectors went off. The boots were charcoal and just a couple minutes more and the only remains would have been the steel toes and rivets.

    The comment: I have successfully rescued sunken cell phones and such. First, immediately remove the battery. Next, rinse away the dirty water with distilled water. Then let the thing dry naturally - DON'T heat. H2O+heat = corrosion. Be patient and don't touch it for a couple days until it is really dry.

    I grew up on a Navy R&D base and it was routine for the engineers to clean out some of their very expensive test equipment by wheeling it outside and rinsing it out with a garden hose! Of course this was in the desert and things dry very quickly.

  85. Yet another reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...why those not in IT should not be allowed IT toys.

  86. For folks in cold climates by maggard · · Score: 2
    By the way, for those of us that live in places where it gets cold a good word of warning to users, particularly laptop folks, is to let their electronics warm up & dry off before using them.

    Leaving gear in the car trunk or wherever, particularly overnight, cools it down to ambient which in Montreal right now is about -10c to -20c at night. Then bringing it into one's nice warm steamy house means condensation on components like the hard drive, some batteries, metal shields, etc. This film of moisture can cause problems like corrosion and shorting resulting in everything from intermittant flakiness to outright failure.

    Thus aside from sticktion and under-spec cold batteries & capaciters & the thermal stress of running a frozen laptop/palmtop it's just best to let the whole thing warm up and dry out before using. In those cases putting on top of the 'fridge (where the warm air from the condensor blows up) or inside an oven with a pilot light AND NOT USING THE OVEN or on a table near (not *on*) a radiator are all actually good ideas.

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  87. Palms are for Jackasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really, only Jackasses use PDAs. They deserve what they get. How hard it must be to be such a Jackass. They must spend a lot of money on replacing crap they screw up. Sheesh!

  88. [homer]It's still good, it's still good...[/homer] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Reminds me of a story of mine..

    Working tech support at a company.. Sales Weasle needed a modem to connect his computer upto the corprate network.. Needless to say it was an external. He was having line issues connection problems galore. So instead of calling the helpdesk, he came over to my manager and asked if one of us could take a look. I was lucky enough to get the assignment. Went over and diagnosed it as line issues and told him to just redial to try and get another line. He did that but then a week later came back and said it wasn't working. I went over and tapped the modem gently on the desk and told him all would be set now...

    So a week later my manager called me into the office and showed me a smashed modem. One of those white USR. I knew exactly what had happened but my Manager asked me if I told the sales weasle it was okay to smash the modem into the ground repeatedly. It seems that after the weasle had done the deed he'd called IT, and IT had come to my boss. I explained myself and the IT chief said we could no longer help sales with their issues, and that they should call IT from now on blah blah... All in all it was a win win situation. My manager found it hillarious that the Sales Weasle had gone to such extremes to try and get a faster connection. Even the IT manager was smilling when it was all explained to him.

  89. Emeril Live by maggard · · Score: 2
    Anyone else wanna take walk into the PHB's office with this thing in a pan, shout out "Lets kick this up a notch!" and toss on some chopped chillis and cilantro?

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  90. What's the opposite of more off? by Newer+Guy · · Score: 1

    moron

  91. Reply to the ArsTechnica dweebs: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why do you people have such a big problem with this guy's boss? The oven really is a great way to dry soaked electronics, as long as someone doesn't turn the temperature up to high. That's how I recovered all except a hard drive from my basement when it was flooded (I also put them in a hot car on a sunny summer day). Now, it might have been better to disassemble the unit first, and maybe use a hair dryer too, but it's kind of tough to cleanly disassemble those little consumer electronics gadgets. Or in retrospect, leave a note on the oven saying what's going on. But I don't understand why, just because he is someone's boss, it seems, you people think he must be a total idiot. What would you do if your palm pilot was drowned like that? Probably not much better.

  92. Redundent...I know by blkros · · Score: 2

    But...I can't stop laughing. OMFG!!!!!!

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  93. and this made the front page of slashdot why? by night_flyer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lets leave a VHS tape in a hot car and see what happens.

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    Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
  94. How to fix a car radio by ortholattice · · Score: 5, Interesting
    About 10 years ago my wife spilled some Coke (or Pepsi) into the dashboard, and somehow it drained into the radio/cassette, rendering the unit nonfunctional. The dealer and a repairman declared it a total loss.

    Here is what I did to resurrect it.

    I took the radio out of the car and the cover off the radio. I filled the kitchen sink with cold, clean water and soaked everything, cassette player and all, for 1 hour. Drained the water, refilled the sink, and soaked for another 15 minutes (rinse cycle). Finally, I baked it at 160 deg F in an (electric) oven for 8 hours.

    Why 160? I figured a car radio could get that hot when the car was in the sun with the doors closed. I hesitated to go higher, mainly concerned with the plastic parts in the cassette player.

    The radio and cassette still work fine to this day. Yeah, I still own the car - these days only gas-hogging SUVs match the surprising storage space inside of the tiny-looking frame of a 1988 Honda Wagovan, AFAIK made only one year, and only in tan. With plenty of headroom for extra-tall folks.

    1. Re:How to fix a car radio by mikewas · · Score: 2, Interesting

      An undersea vehicle I was testing sank. It was recoverred after a wek on the bottom, in seawater. The NAVY crew working with me placed it into a sealed container filled with seawater, and shipped it back to the depot's lab for failure analysis & salvage.

      Keeping it under water was less damaging than exposure to oxygen in the air. When we got it back, they rinsed everything with lots of flowing fresh water. We took everything apart, inspected it with a blacklight (sea-salt flouresces), baked it overnight in an environmental chamber (50C), reassembled things and almost every subassembly worked!

      Cable assemblies took longer. There are lots of nooks & crannies for salt to hide in. They inspected them after a few weeks. Any salt tends to migrate out & beomes visible.

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    2. Re:How to fix a car radio by armb · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > About 10 years ago my wife spilled some Coke (or Pepsi) into the dashboard

      Allegedly the US spec for military aircraft instruments includes being able to resist Coke spillage.

      > I filled the kitchen sink with cold, clean water and soaked everything, cassette player and all, for 1 hour. Drained the water, refilled the sink, and soaked for another 15 minutes (rinse cycle).

      It can be worth using distilled/deionized water for the final rinse.

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  95. Microwave anyone??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who's gonna microwave a Palm?

    1. Re:Microwave anyone??? by ScottBob · · Score: 2

      A long time ago, a friend of mine got a digital wristwatch wet, and he had the idea of heating it in a microwave oven to dry it. It beeped for a couple seconds, then sparks shot out. It was a goner.

  96. OSX by shoemakc · · Score: 1

    you know.....if you look at it from an angle.....and squint you're eyes slightly....

    ...It looks kinda like OS-X.

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    --an unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys--
  97. Roomates must be run in a room jail! by Red+Storm · · Score: 1

    Remember oven is a privialged device of group kitchen! All roomates should not be a member of this group and all roomates should be run in a room jail. This can help to provide added process security to the oven device.

    :-)

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    ---- Fight to protect your right to keep and arm bears! ummmm... ya I think that's right....
  98. uh.. is his name by josepha48 · · Score: 2
    Mr. Dumass?

    How dumb do you have to be to put electronics in the oven? I think he got what he deserved.

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    Only 'flamers' flame!

  99. A clear pattern by MarkusQ · · Score: 2
    ...has anyone else noticed that the most sure-fire way to get an article on Slashdot is to wreck complex electronics?

    Or even significantly reduce its usefulness. That way your theory would also explain all the attention given to copy protected CDs and microsoft products. (*smile*)

    -- MarkusQ

    1. Re:A clear pattern by Genyin · · Score: 1

      ...has anyone else noticed that the most sure-fire way to get an article on Slashdot is to wreck complex electronics?

      Or even significantly reduce its usefulness. That way your theory would also explain all the attention given to copy protected CDs and microsoft products. (*smile*)

      Or perhaps even 2.5.x kernels.

  100. like my phone.... by Floydian123 · · Score: 0

    Looks like the phone I left on the stove (cordless phone) when it was on once LOL - melted over the burner a biznitch to get off ack

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    paul
  101. New Development Ideas by Dalaram · · Score: 0

    Who cares about SCSI, this is REALLY the next generation of FireWire!!!

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  102. In unrelated news by quantaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    AMD has announced that they are working on a new line of chips designed to work in Palm pilots and other small personal devices. When asked of their progress an AMD spokesman commented "The initial tests look encouraging although we're still having some problems with the heat dispersement. We've submitted some of the results of the experiment to a "research" group in hopes that they will have some useful insight."

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    I stole this Sig
  103. Turn on the Pilot light? by dinkmaster · · Score: 1

    Why did he have to put it in the oven? Backlighting works anywhere; maybe it needed to be in a dark space. Well, the chief problem was that somebody "blew out his pilot light and made a dish."

  104. I think it can be sent back to Palm by fiber_halo · · Score: 1

    I had (still have, actually) a Palm V that I once sat on during a meeting. The screen was completely cracked. I called Palm's customer support and told them I needed it to be repaired. They didn't even ask me what was wrong. Apparently, it's a fixed price for repair no matter what happens to it.

    If I wored in IT/IS at that company I'd call Palm myself. It's worth a shot.


    Another story... A few years ago when I was working at an ISP, they had a beautiful 21-inch monitor that arrived DOA. The distributor they got it from just sent a new one right away and never asked for the other one back. This thing sat in a storeroom for almost a year. I asked about buying it, thinking they would say no, but I was surprised when they agreed to sell it to me for 10% of their cost. So I ended up paying $95 for it -- 1998, so that was a great deal!

    I tried to get it repaired at several local TV repair shops, but none said they could fix it. I was starting to think I'd wasted my money, but my wife just called the manufacturer, gave them the serial number and they said, sure it's under warranty, just send it back! She told them to arrange to have it picked up, which they did. They fixed it (and actually it died right away, and they fixed it a second time - aarrgh!), but since then it's worked perfectly...

  105. You can tell it was an Executive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...an IT person would know that a Palm should be sauteed, not baked.

  106. Over clocking -vs- Oven cooking by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    No, he oven-cooked it.

    (according to the story with a nice layer of tomato sauce, onions and some other stuff that's on the dough of a Pizza).

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    --- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
  107. Yeah, someone else did it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can see putting it into the oven to dry it out w/ something around 150... No biggie... But this BS about not seeing it when you stuffed the zzza into the oven? Come on... Let's be real. This guy wouldn't have told anyone about this - he would have gone to the store bought another one and left it at that...

    But actually telling people about this f'up? This guy needs to pee into a cup to see if the test machine explodes... He's obviously tooooo high.

  108. PCB ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although the casing has melted, it seems to me that the PCB is intact ... which makes sense given what PCBs go through during manufacturing ...

  109. Hairdryer by i_am_nitrogen · · Score: 2

    A hairdryer could be just as bad... I once used a hairdryer to dry a mouse and keyboard I'd just cleaned... The mouse warped terribly. Kinda curled in on itself, the way a foam plate does when you toss it in a camp fire.

    1. Re:Hairdryer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, either an extremely cheap mouse or you used too much heat! You don't need to have the hairdryer right on top of the thing dude! Keep it a couple feet away.

  110. Ebay by ruvreve · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ebay, need I say more. Actually ya I do....people will buy anything!

  111. A safe way to dry it out... by thumbtack · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've used the heat generated from a TV or more recently my monitor. I'm not talking about dripping wet items, that would be stupid, and you would desrve what you get. But if it has moisture on the inside such as in the screen like the face of a watch that fod up inside. Take out the batteries, remove any covers, open all doors and panels, and place it on you tv or monitior. Leave there for a day or two. We used to tell this to people who dropped their digital cameras into water and it's worked dozens of times. Low grade heat and somewhere for the moisture to go. Of course we would suggest that the camera would need to go in for service immediately to protect it from corrosion, etc. most did they were glad we had saved them the cost of a new camera.

    1. Re:A safe way to dry it out... by Keith+Mickunas · · Score: 1

      Last spring I came home and found my remote control sitting in a puddle of water. It has a 1" x 2" LCD on it and the thing was soaked. Turned out something was wrong in the AC, it was leaking water and it ran across the ceiling and dripped directly on the remote. Anyways, the LCD was a mess and wouldn't light up right at all. I took the batteries out, and placed the remote standing up inside one of my PCs. I placed it directly in front of an intake fan and left it there for a day or so. Sure enough it dried out and to this day it works fine.

  112. Pizza - plastic flavored? by Ken+Dale · · Score: 1

    If i was him id defintely axe the person who did that... poor ol' palm

    i wonder what the pizza tasted like?

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  113. The slashdot effect in progress... by Aanallein · · Score: 1

    If you look at the index page of the forum where these pics appear, there's some nice data on the slashdot effect in progress. Currently 58788 views for that thread - where most other threads don't get above the 2k views.

    It'd be interesting to check back in a day or so, see how many hits we racked up in total...

  114. Don't you just hate it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when you're eating your freshly baked palm and scaulding hot stringy plastic runs down your chin?

  115. Your all missing it! by kruczkowski · · Score: 1

    The real question I ask is how was the pizza?

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  116. ov3rc00ked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe he misread some email about ov3r*cl0ck*ing

  117. Almost as bad.. by Fifty+Squid · · Score: 0

    I soaked mine in color safe bleach for about an hour. It was in the pocket of my bathrobe. The exterior looked okay so I just called up support and told them it stopped working. I had a new one in three days.

  118. Re:new style of case design-Cleaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could have cleaned the gunk out by soaking it in deionized water. Then air dry it.

  119. Did they eat the pizza? by chazR · · Score: 1

    Ignoring the obligatory "Magic Smoke" jokes, I'm wondering whether they eat the pizza. Benzpyrenes, dioxins, polychlorinated aromatics. These all have a negative effect on flavour.

    Also, was it a Religiously acceptable pizza?

  120. Nah.. by Axe · · Score: 2
    Far more fun is cooking a CD in a microwave.. Try it - set on high for 15 sec.. Loads of fun.

    I also immensly enjoyed spilling cofe on my keyboard, dropping my cell phone, and then stepping on it, and cutting my finger when clipping my toenails. I guess I should dedicate a web site to it.

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  121. I'm an idiot by Glint · · Score: 1

    I put my cell phone in the washing machine a while back, and when I took it out, it wasn't working at all. Raising the antenna caused a cascade to come out of the antenna well.

    So I took it to Verizon where I declared "I think my cell phone is broken." The guy behind the counter goes "Did it get wet?" to which I replied "I think it might have!"

    He declared that it was broken forever without any hope of repair and I was better off buying a new one. Since I didn't have enough cash with me to get a heady new replacement, I took my broken cell home and let it sit.

    A couple of days later it was working again, albeit with all of the stored numbers erased.

    Can someone please explain to me why one would *not* want electronics to get wet? I mean, I can understand things shorting out should they be run when wet, but if my cell was off when it went in the wash, why would the guy declare it to be broken forever afterwards? Probably a common sense thing I'm missing.

    - Adam

    1. Re:I'm an idiot by uspsguy · · Score: 1

      I've been associated with 3 wet cellphones. One dropped in a sink, one in my kids pocket when he was thrown into a tank, and one dropped into a flowing gutter. All were audiovox and under warantee. One started working by itself in a couple of days with no special treatment. The other 2 were dried carefully and remained DOA. Sent them for service and was told they were water damaged, unrepairable and would not be replaced under warantee. 1 for 3. Since phones are used everywhere, why can't they make them a least a little waterproof?

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  122. Mine sort of got run over by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1

    My Palm III and cell phone were in a fanny pack that somehow managed to fling itself out of my car and into the middle of the street. By the time I'd recovered it (after someone less cluefully impaired pointed this out), at least one car had driven over it. Needless to say, the Palm was lunchmeat. The screen looks really cool, though, kind of like a piece of safety glass that someone smacked their head into hard enough to crush but not break.

    Interestingly enough, the phone, a Nokia, works perfectly, except for the case being a little loose. I wrapped one end with tape and it's fine.

    Semi-related to the actual story, I once spilled most of a cup of coffee into the top of my FM receiver, which happened to be on at the time. It was pretty disappointing, though - no sparks, no smoke, the damn thing didn't even stop playing. I unplugged it and let it dry out for a few days, and it was as good as new, plus the room smelled like French Roast.

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    What if life is just a side effect of some other process and God has no idea we exist?

  123. Re:Saturday night fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not all Dutchmen that like Front 242 are groten, dude! I take offense at your comments.

  124. What happens When You Wash Your Clie by jonearth · · Score: 1

    Last month, I feel real bad and vomit in my own jacket. I put my jacket in my washing machine to wash it. I dry it on the other day and find there's something heavy inside the pocket. I think it may be coins, card or paper something, I pull that thing out and find that it is my new CLIE.... I turn on the power immediately and poor little thing is already gone. I open the case and try to do a last minute first aid using my hair drier, BOOOBOO.. I turn it on again and finally confirm its death. Maybe I should I put it into my microwave owen like this guy does...

    What I find out from this tragedy is that - DON't BUY T-400!
    This little thing is too slim that I always put it in my pocket and forget to get it out...

  125. What I want to know......... by eigerface · · Score: 1
    Does it still work?

    I dropped my Palm IIIx from a height of 5 feet, and literally SMASHED the screen on the kitchen floor, but I did managed to HotSync it one more time before shipping it off for repair.

    I love these new fangled devices!

  126. DUH!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I burned my palm on a curling iron while curling my hair before, and burned my palm on the fry pan while cooking an egg. I can't read palms but I have two of them.

    <clueless>Anonymous Coward</clueless>

  127. Re:Saturday night fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Incubus suck ass.

  128. Corrosion and/or shorting by brokeninside · · Score: 2
    (1) Water can act as a catalyst to cause solder, chips, wires to corrode and/or rust to the point of making the device useless. A roommate of mine did this with a cordless phone of mine. He used it while washing dishes, got it wet and hung it on the base. The water ran into the unit and caused a connection on the circuit board to rust itself into uselessness.

    (2) Water can cause an active circuit to short itself out, possibly in a permanently descructive manner.

  129. Finally some one improved the case on the Palm. by sh2kwave · · Score: 0

    Fianlly some one did it, in a sort of anti-apple way that just screams, BUY ME, perfect for your grandmother even who likes the look of over cooked food.

  130. Re:Saturday night fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, they do. they suck this ass