Okay well everyone is talking about ICQ2000 or 98 or whatever...and different versions of AIM... but how do the Linux/Unix clones work now? Can gaim or tik let you login to AIM using your ICQ info?
And what does this unification mean for our beloved clones? Are we going to be stuck with that AIM client that AOL is working on now?
Good luck. That's why we have audio amplifiers in our radio. After the IF stages you're left with a filtered signal that is extremely weak. The purpose of the local oscillator (at 455kHz) is to turn it to the frequency you're listening into the audio range. Once you pass the local oscillator it has to be amplified. You aren't going to be able to detect the broadcast frequency being mixed with the LO... if you could, then you would have needed an audio amp to being with.
Fact is, most investors don't get a verbatim server log with all the technical "mumbo-jumbo". They get a simplified version with only the information the CEO wants them to hear.
Good point...and its not like web logs are the only thing that gets treated like this.
It is virtually impossible for a device to detect what radio station you are tuned to. There's no way for anyone to tell what station you're listening to, short of getting into your car and looking at your radio. If you still have an all analog radio, then maybe you could detect harmonics caused by the filters at the local oscillator, but I don't see that as being reliable from any distance. If you've got a recent stereo, then its probably DSP driven anyway. So how could you possibly tell then what station the person is tuned to? Telnet to the proc and do a ps aux | grep LO-RF?
I'm sorry... I just don't buy it... a device that could detect what radio station you are listening to? Nope. Don't buy it.
So what effect does this have on clones? If your Windows client stops working (I don't know how it works...I've never used it myself) can't you just use a clone to logon? What difference does it make if you are banned...can't you just create a new account?
That's something I never understood... or is that what he's referring to...making it impossible to create yourself a new user? If that's the case... I go back to my question...what about the effect on clones?
What worries me is that Napster will move towards not allowing clones to connect anymore...which would suck.
www.advantech.com has some SBCs w/ built in Audio for $325... Get a IDE FlashDrive from www.sandisk.com for around $100... The SBC is the size of a 3.5" hard drive and has everything on board (even LCD controller) and the FlashDrive is perfectly quiet... the amount of mp3s you have depends on how much money you want to spend. Or you buy two of them..one to boot and one for data...plug it into your computer and copy your mp3s to that..
Or get the SBC with ethernet, and get a sound module for the pc/104 connector... even better actually (or get a ethernet connector for the pc/104, which is easier than finding a sound module)
Its pretty much what my senior design project is...
This is really bad because I had a class that talked about it... but what is it with sunspots that cause us problems? I can remember what they emitt that gives us grief on earth...anyone else remember/know?
I work at the computing center for Purdue and our Assistant Director has stated that they will not ban Napster or any other service for that matter (e.g. porn). However, they caution us because if anyone comes with a court order they will not fight for the students. So he says if we want to hang ourselves we're more than welcome to.
I totally know where you are coming from. I guess I'm being hopeful that the same people who do massive overclocking would understand the benefit of seeing how linux boots on an overclocked machine. I think there is a huge amount of available information that they could gather, if they knew what they were doing. In a perfect world I guess they would understand what some of the text that flys by means instead of wondering "why isn't there a spalsh screen to cover this up?"
I really wish these massive overclockers would boot linux every once in a while. I say that because as they say in this one "At 616 it wouldn't boot Windows." Well...how far did it get? Maybe the IDE controller stops responding... if they'd boot linux then they'd at least have a better chance at seeing WHAT was failing...
Why are you blamming the spam on slashdot? Did it ever occur to you that hotmail is probably leaking their users, not to mention they (use to anyway) have that stupid directory. Before I stopped using hotmail all together, I checked it once or twice a week. The messages I found most amusing where the ones that said something about "your mailbox if full." Yet the only stuff in there was porn ads and "your mailbox is full" messages. heh.
SON, thanks for not reading what I said. I appreciate it.
The point I was getting at is not that the entire WINE project is a failure, as I said in my post, WINE still can not get to be 100% compatible without microsoft code. So what I was saying was I'm sure there are ares were WINE has failed (maybe just for the moment), and may not ever get around them. So why don't you take a minute and get a clue yourself.
I use to defend the post office when people said they lost mail. I had never actually experienced lost mail before this summer. I've been living in Texas for the summer. Meanwhile, my friend has been sending me weekly packets (heh) of important mail sent to my apartment in Indiana. (This was a sudden move, and its only temporary, so mail forwarding didn't seem logical)
Anyway, I'd say i've lost about 75% of them. And for SOME reason 50% of the ones she has sent, get sent back to her with "return to sender" stamped on the enevlope. We have yet to figure out why some of them make it here and some of them don't.
Oh and sending them from the post office doesn't help either. At least now when the post office has thier email setup, maybe my boss will believe me when I say "honestly, I never got that email."
Its too late. Why would they trash all of the development work of the past 2 years, and start over again with Java? It doesn't make sense. That's like being nearly finished building a car, and then saying "well, lets make the frame out of wood instead of steel."
That's why distro inflate their numbers. Unfortuantly the commerical market thinks that higher numbers means much newer (and better). Its the very reason that Slackware jumped from 4.0 to 7.0 (they've openly admitted this). Just like your comment about Caldera, they didn't want people to say "Redhat 6.0 MUST be better than Slackware 4.1." Even Perl is doing it. Instead of making 5.006 they are going to 5.6, because people don't realize the significant change from x.005 to x.006
But why bother forking off on another project? Why not join forces with the WINE project, or something like that? Take SOME exisitng work and expand it into the full desktop system?
It just seems more and more, to me, the O.W. group doesn't have a realistic goal. Its not like this is the first time someone has tried to clone Windows. I don't see them creating a "100% clone" that is any closer to what any of the other projects of this type. Defiantly not in a reasonable amount of time.
I'd like to know why this group is so arrogant that they think their project is going to succeed, where others like WINE have failed. I'm not suggesting WINE is a failure, but I'm saying I'm sure there are areas where someone has said "Dammit, I give up on this section."
Its my opinion that if WINE is not 100% compatible, even when using microsoft DLL's, why does this group think they can do it?
I was starting to wonder if this was a joke, but it looks like the site has been around for a while.
I wonder if their intentions are to just see if it can be done. If you think about it, what is the point of making a free Windows clone? So you can run Microsoft Office? If attempts like Wine can't get the APIs perfect, then is a project like this going to succeed? I think if we look at it from the point of view, "where can we get with it," then yes, a project like this is worthwhile. It seems to me it would be a mistake to have hopes of a high amount of usability.
BTW, I like how they even went so far as to make their page look my Microsoft's homepages...
My question for the Evolution team is: Are you going to release a separate "MAPI driver for Linux" piece?
If you actually looked at the Evolution website, you'd have the answers to your questions. NO, Eveolution will NOT allow you to connect to an Exhcange server (at first). It is NOT just a mere replacement for Outlook.
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Okay well everyone is talking about ICQ2000 or 98 or whatever...and different versions of AIM... but how do the Linux/Unix clones work now? Can gaim or tik let you login to AIM using your ICQ info?
And what does this unification mean for our beloved clones? Are we going to be stuck with that AIM client that AOL is working on now?
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Yeah, but its for windows... so what good does that do me (and a bunch of other people around here)?
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Good luck. That's why we have audio amplifiers in our radio. After the IF stages you're left with a filtered signal that is extremely weak. The purpose of the local oscillator (at 455kHz) is to turn it to the frequency you're listening into the audio range. Once you pass the local oscillator it has to be amplified. You aren't going to be able to detect the broadcast frequency being mixed with the LO... if you could, then you would have needed an audio amp to being with.
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Fact is, most investors don't get a verbatim server log with all the technical "mumbo-jumbo". They get a simplified version with only the information the CEO wants them to hear.
Good point...and its not like web logs are the only thing that gets treated like this.
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This is entirely different. Police re-broadcast... your car's radio doesn't.
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It is virtually impossible for a device to detect what radio station you are tuned to. There's no way for anyone to tell what station you're listening to, short of getting into your car and looking at your radio. If you still have an all analog radio, then maybe you could detect harmonics caused by the filters at the local oscillator, but I don't see that as being reliable from any distance. If you've got a recent stereo, then its probably DSP driven anyway. So how could you possibly tell then what station the person is tuned to? Telnet to the proc and do a ps aux | grep LO-RF?
I'm sorry... I just don't buy it... a device that could detect what radio station you are listening to? Nope. Don't buy it.
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So what effect does this have on clones? If your Windows client stops working (I don't know how it works...I've never used it myself) can't you just use a clone to logon? What difference does it make if you are banned...can't you just create a new account?
That's something I never understood... or is that what he's referring to...making it impossible to create yourself a new user? If that's the case... I go back to my question...what about the effect on clones?
What worries me is that Napster will move towards not allowing clones to connect anymore...which would suck.
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www.advantech.com has some SBCs w/ built in Audio for $325 ... Get a IDE FlashDrive from www.sandisk.com for around $100... The SBC is the size of a 3.5" hard drive and has everything on board (even LCD controller) and the FlashDrive is perfectly quiet... the amount of mp3s you have depends on how much money you want to spend. Or you buy two of them..one to boot and one for data...plug it into your computer and copy your mp3s to that..
Or get the SBC with ethernet, and get a sound module for the pc/104 connector... even better actually (or get a ethernet connector for the pc/104, which is easier than finding a sound module)
Its pretty much what my senior design project is...
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This is really bad because I had a class that talked about it... but what is it with sunspots that cause us problems? I can remember what they emitt that gives us grief on earth...anyone else remember/know?
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I work at the computing center for Purdue and our Assistant Director has stated that they will not ban Napster or any other service for that matter (e.g. porn). However, they caution us because if anyone comes with a court order they will not fight for the students. So he says if we want to hang ourselves we're more than welcome to.
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Unfortantly he does use NT....
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He's just doing it for fun...everyone should check out fuckedcompany.com ... its a cool site... its the dot-com deadpool.
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I totally know where you are coming from. I guess I'm being hopeful that the same people who do massive overclocking would understand the benefit of seeing how linux boots on an overclocked machine. I think there is a huge amount of available information that they could gather, if they knew what they were doing. In a perfect world I guess they would understand what some of the text that flys by means instead of wondering "why isn't there a spalsh screen to cover this up?"
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I really wish these massive overclockers would boot linux every once in a while. I say that because as they say in this one "At 616 it wouldn't boot Windows." Well...how far did it get? Maybe the IDE controller stops responding... if they'd boot linux then they'd at least have a better chance at seeing WHAT was failing...
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If you actually kept up with Mozilla, you'd know that memory footprint is something they are working on.
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Why are you blamming the spam on slashdot? Did it ever occur to you that hotmail is probably leaking their users, not to mention they (use to anyway) have that stupid directory. Before I stopped using hotmail all together, I checked it once or twice a week. The messages I found most amusing where the ones that said something about "your mailbox if full." Yet the only stuff in there was porn ads and "your mailbox is full" messages. heh.
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SON, thanks for not reading what I said. I appreciate it.
The point I was getting at is not that the entire WINE project is a failure, as I said in my post, WINE still can not get to be 100% compatible without microsoft code. So what I was saying was I'm sure there are ares were WINE has failed (maybe just for the moment), and may not ever get around them. So why don't you take a minute and get a clue yourself.
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I use to defend the post office when people said they lost mail. I had never actually experienced lost mail before this summer. I've been living in Texas for the summer. Meanwhile, my friend has been sending me weekly packets (heh) of important mail sent to my apartment in Indiana. (This was a sudden move, and its only temporary, so mail forwarding didn't seem logical)
Anyway, I'd say i've lost about 75% of them. And for SOME reason 50% of the ones she has sent, get sent back to her with "return to sender" stamped on the enevlope. We have yet to figure out why some of them make it here and some of them don't.
Oh and sending them from the post office doesn't help either. At least now when the post office has thier email setup, maybe my boss will believe me when I say "honestly, I never got that email."
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Its too late. Why would they trash all of the development work of the past 2 years, and start over again with Java? It doesn't make sense. That's like being nearly finished building a car, and then saying "well, lets make the frame out of wood instead of steel."
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That's why distro inflate their numbers. Unfortuantly the commerical market thinks that higher numbers means much newer (and better). Its the very reason that Slackware jumped from 4.0 to 7.0 (they've openly admitted this). Just like your comment about Caldera, they didn't want people to say "Redhat 6.0 MUST be better than Slackware 4.1." Even Perl is doing it. Instead of making 5.006 they are going to 5.6, because people don't realize the significant change from x.005 to x.006
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But why bother forking off on another project? Why not join forces with the WINE project, or something like that? Take SOME exisitng work and expand it into the full desktop system?
It just seems more and more, to me, the O.W. group doesn't have a realistic goal. Its not like this is the first time someone has tried to clone Windows. I don't see them creating a "100% clone" that is any closer to what any of the other projects of this type. Defiantly not in a reasonable amount of time.
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I'd like to know why this group is so arrogant that they think their project is going to succeed, where others like WINE have failed. I'm not suggesting WINE is a failure, but I'm saying I'm sure there are areas where someone has said "Dammit, I give up on this section."
Its my opinion that if WINE is not 100% compatible, even when using microsoft DLL's, why does this group think they can do it?
I was starting to wonder if this was a joke, but it looks like the site has been around for a while.
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look my Microsoft's homepages
ouch... i meant look like
I added that after previewing... out of habbit I hit submit instead of preview again.
oh well
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With response to is it desirable...
I wonder if their intentions are to just see if it can be done. If you think about it, what is the point of making a free Windows clone? So you can run Microsoft Office? If attempts like Wine can't get the APIs perfect, then is a project like this going to succeed? I think if we look at it from the point of view, "where can we get with it," then yes, a project like this is worthwhile. It seems to me it would be a mistake to have hopes of a high amount of usability.
BTW, I like how they even went so far as to make their page look my Microsoft's homepages...
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My question for the Evolution team is: Are you going to release a separate "MAPI driver for Linux" piece?
If you actually looked at the Evolution website, you'd have the answers to your questions. NO, Eveolution will NOT allow you to connect to an Exhcange server (at first). It is NOT just a mere replacement for Outlook.
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