How many overseas military bases and carrier groups does China have compared to the 700+ of the United States.
And China isn't?
In the last 12 years, the U.S. has started two illegal wars of choice that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, millions of refugees, destabilized entire regions, conducted a worldwide kidnapping & torture program, and marks 50 innocent people for death for every alleged terrorist it bombs. And used chemical weapons on civilians in Iraq, the sort of thing it's claiming Assad should be bombed for doing.
Tell me how China gets remotely close to any of that.
How many Al Jazeera offices has the Chinese military bombed in the last 10 years? Has the PM of China personally called a third world dictator to keep a journalist imprisoned and tortured, like Obama did with Yemen?
In America not only was Snowden able to escape due to not having to go to a government office and get an exit visa for his passport
Nonsensical talking point. Getting an exit visa wouldn't have changed anything, because Snowden chose Hong Kong precisely because it wouldn't raise red flags with the government as opposed to flying to Caracas.
but he was soundly cheered by many Americans
By people like Bradley Manning, who was subjected to two years of psycological torture before being tried in a kangaroo court.
As a Westerner who has been in China for years now and speaks Mandarin, people only like China because they reflexively hate America and either don't know anything about China or project their wants and desires on China. "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know."
Or, they aren't total morons and can see who the most belligerent bully in the world is. How many nations has China bombed, how many worldwide torture programs has it run while trying to tap and store the communications of everyone on the planet.
what just happened in Syria?
The Nobel Peace Prize winner, who desperately wanted to bomb a country, was clowned by a former KGB stooge who swooped in with a peace deal. What about it?
Correction: Stuxnet was the repercussion, it was Iran's nuclear program that was the provocation.
Repeating Big Lies doesn't make them true, it just makes you a bigger liar. Because even the IDF and Pentagon will tell you Iran doesn't actually have the nuclear weapons program that both countries are threatening to bomb Iran for having.
But even if Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons, that would be the "repercussion" for Israel's 200+ nuclear warheads.
My dad moved our family from Florida to Michigan to Arizona and then CA for work. He never batted an eye, never thought to get hand outs or bitch that life wasn't fair. He went where the work is.
Uh huh. And how did he do that - by giving you piggyback rides back and forth across the U.S., or giving blowjobs to hitchhike? Or did he pack you guys up in the family car and pay for gas along the way?
I'm sick of the lazy bastards who wont move for a good job and a chance to better their life.
I'm sick of sociopathic shitbags who can't see past their own noses. Why don't you move your dumb ass under a bridge or into an efficiency with three roomates if you think the poor have it so easy. Or moving hundreds of miles away for a hope and a prayer that you might find a job, with no employement lined up, no place to stay and no money to support yourself at all.
Since your "friend" doesn't work full time, does he use the other 10+ hours a week he's obviously free EACH AND EVERY WEEK to seek out better jobs, or does he just sit at home with his mom complaining that WalMart doesn't give him enough hours?
...and not just an authographed copy, but one personally given to you by Robert Welch Jr. Because someone in that position isn't looking for any kind of job he can find so he can eat and not be homeless.
It's not a great life, but there's a whole world of people living on less than $300/week. Even with a modest $800/mo after taxes, with no public assistance of any sort you can eat, have your own studio apartment, and take the bus to work -- just like everyone you've ever seen on the bus does. Do you have to get a roommate - or just rent a room - if you live somewhere where housing is expensive? Probably. Do you have to eat "poor people food" from actual grocery stores? Probably.
You first. Remember that bus routes rarely run late into the night when you're going to be getting off work at your McJob, or you might have to walk a few miles home through shitty neighborhoods. You elitists seriously need to move into a cardboard box for a couple weeks to get over yourselves.
So....your complaint is that McDonalds gave your mentally ill son a job, and then a second chance? You must own Atlas Wanked in paperback, hardbound, first run printing, DVD, BluRay, laserdisc....
Why there's a perfectly good reason for homeless people to have smartphones: job hunting. Especially in a shitty economy, having access to a phone and internet can be vital when searching for jobs. If Wal-Mart can't call you back for a second interview, they'll just shrug their shoulders and hire one of the other 200 applicants from that week. That decent paying job that fits in with your education and work experience that you just found out about? Filled last week by an applicant that responded the same day it was posted.
But aside from all that, it's truly disgusting how conservatives demand a certain level of misery of the poor before giving them an iota of "respect".
In my experience maybe 1/10 of these people were genuinely down on their luck and looking for help to start over.
If you think being poor and homeless is such a riot, why don't you try it yourself first before looking down your nose at other people. Like 9 out of 10 people choose to sleep under bridges, choose to carry shivs in case someone tries to beat/rob them, choose to deal with harassment from cops, and so on and so on.
We would also have had a communist Japan and South Korea, to the delight of the inhabitants there, and with more fun in the Cold War.
As opposed to client states and fascist dictatorships supported by the U.S., with military bases right on the USSR's doorstep. And then the U.S., with no sense of shame, flipped shit over stationing missiles in Cuba.
Your task in this alternate world is to figure out how to bring an end to the war with the loss of fewer lives beyond that date than were lost in the real world, but without using any nuclear bombs.
Do you have something hard? All Americans had to do was negotiate a surrender with the Japanese, who were trying to do so while keeping their Emperor as a face-saving gesture. The idea that we just HAD to occupy the country was a joke, as the two most powerful navies in the world no longer had to focus on containing Germany, and Japan's was destroyed.
Instead, we nuked two cities to get our "unconditional surrender", and then....let the Japanese keep their Emperor.
Maybe if console sales weren't ten times higher than PC sales, they would.
Maybe that's an obviously self-reinforcing cycle. Cuz gamers waiting to buy GTA aren't going to buy a PC copy of the game months after they bought the console version for the same price.
Right. Just like how every time Google has been threatened with having local regulations applied to them in France or Germany or what have you, the for-profit corporation writes off the countries involved and pulls up shop.
Unless they, you know, cave. Which is pretty much every time.
RTFA, they are also talking about running their own Fiber to Europe and elsewhere.
Which is also not turning into North Korea or walling themselves off from the rest of the world. Any other ways you want to highlight the fact that your post was nothing more than a knee-jerk response?
It's only now that a liberal is in charge of their total information awareness
How is a politician far to the right of Ronald Reagan "liberal"? Obama is as much or more right-wing as his predecessor on military, economic, energy and educational issues. You can't even call him liberal for gay marriage since Cheney "evolved" to the same position 7 years in advance.
Brazil's formerly richest man Eike Batista (was $36.4B, now $0.4B) poached a top team of petroleum executives from the state oil company PetroBras. This included their top negotiator who would have had the most sensitive data regarding price points for access to new fields. Having a competitor to the state oil company was an affront to the establishment. The government wanted to know who was taking to Batista, and what information was being supplied.
Oh noes!!! Wont someone please think of the billionaire oligarchs who want to privatize national resources so they can cut wages, increase prices and ignore safety and environmental concerns! Let's start a kickstarter campaign for the poor beleaguered billionaire that has more influence than a million registered voters!!!
The rest of the post isn't so bad. Obama fell all over himself during his campaign to assure voters that he would reign in abusing spying, only to massively expand it once he because president. The Brazilian government might be just as full of it here - a little fauxrage to make the homefront happy with zero follow-through.
They aren't talking about building their own gated AOL. RTFA.
While Brazil isnâ(TM)t proposing to bar its citizens from U.S.-based Web services, it wants their data to be stored locally as the nation assumes greater control over Braziliansâ(TM) Internet use to protect them from NSA snooping.
So mail.google.com.br should have its servers in Brazil and presumably be subjected to Brazilian oversight. That's not exactly 'turning into North Korea'.
Frakking is absolutely NOT exempt from environmental laws in the U.S.
The hell it isn't. Try Googling Dick Cheney and the Clean Water Act before you embarrass yourself. Whoops, too late.
The greenies are simply angry that, just when they thought they had a US president stupid enough to push everybody into inefficient, expensive, and unreliable forms of energy (as a way of dragging the US down a notch or two) Frakking came along and unleashed a potential glut of cheap fossil fuels.
Obama's energy policies are utterly indistinguishable from his Republican predecessor - "all of the above". Why do you think he appointed Ken Salazar? Sad thing for you wingers is that all the honest criticism of Obama comes from the left.
Good sarcasm. Because, if it's not, food recalls alone would make a (very poor) liar out of you. If I brought up the BP disaster in the Gulf it would just get embarrassing.
A simply stupid question, you mean. No, strike that - a painfully stupid question. If you don't know what temperatures have been like for the last 15 years why are you bothering to pretend you know what you're talking about in a discussion on climate change? And that's before getting to the fact that the answer to your "question" has been posted multiple times in this thread alone.
Do also jump into discussions on U.S. politics and then ask for evidence that Barack Obama is black?
Let's go ahead and give you that winger trolling point, but that does...what to explain the fact they produce twice as many cars while paying their workers twice as much.
But your statement has been shown to be incorrect anyway so...
Nice try. That was comparing motor vehicles total, which includes everything from mopeds to semis. That's moving the goalpost away from the point, which was cars.
So, we're back to your Randian butthurt. Must be a frequent experience for you, since Randians are invariably wrong about everything.
As if Fandroids are at risk of being downmodded. You could of course take the same sort of list describing an Android system update with the same borish responses that someone else did it first, but that's not going to rocket you to +5, Wankery.
Wrong. Much as I dislike Abbott, the title Minister for Industry also covers Science
Does that mean science takes a back seat to industry profit, just like in the U.S.? You know, stuff like letting food and drug manufacturers "self regulate" or exempting fracking from environmental laws.
One thing to keep in mind is that government scientists are pretty much in the same position as scientists who work in industry: they are there to serve the interests of their employer.
No. The thing to keep in mind is that this is a tautology to pretend that grant-funded research and out-come funded research are equal.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Hand wave and flop around as much as you want, it's not going to change the fact that you're standing with Dyson on a faith-based talking point rather than bothering with coming up with actual science.
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How many overseas military bases and carrier groups does China have compared to the 700+ of the United States.
In the last 12 years, the U.S. has started two illegal wars of choice that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, millions of refugees, destabilized entire regions, conducted a worldwide kidnapping & torture program, and marks 50 innocent people for death for every alleged terrorist it bombs. And used chemical weapons on civilians in Iraq, the sort of thing it's claiming Assad should be bombed for doing.
Tell me how China gets remotely close to any of that.
How many Al Jazeera offices has the Chinese military bombed in the last 10 years? Has the PM of China personally called a third world dictator to keep a journalist imprisoned and tortured, like Obama did with Yemen?
Nonsensical talking point. Getting an exit visa wouldn't have changed anything, because Snowden chose Hong Kong precisely because it wouldn't raise red flags with the government as opposed to flying to Caracas.
By people like Bradley Manning, who was subjected to two years of psycological torture before being tried in a kangaroo court.
Or, they aren't total morons and can see who the most belligerent bully in the world is. How many nations has China bombed, how many worldwide torture programs has it run while trying to tap and store the communications of everyone on the planet.
The Nobel Peace Prize winner, who desperately wanted to bomb a country, was clowned by a former KGB stooge who swooped in with a peace deal. What about it?
Repeating Big Lies doesn't make them true, it just makes you a bigger liar. Because even the IDF and Pentagon will tell you Iran doesn't actually have the nuclear weapons program that both countries are threatening to bomb Iran for having.
But even if Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons, that would be the "repercussion" for Israel's 200+ nuclear warheads.
Uh huh. And how did he do that - by giving you piggyback rides back and forth across the U.S., or giving blowjobs to hitchhike? Or did he pack you guys up in the family car and pay for gas along the way?
I'm sick of sociopathic shitbags who can't see past their own noses. Why don't you move your dumb ass under a bridge or into an efficiency with three roomates if you think the poor have it so easy. Or moving hundreds of miles away for a hope and a prayer that you might find a job, with no employement lined up, no place to stay and no money to support yourself at all.
You first. Remember that bus routes rarely run late into the night when you're going to be getting off work at your McJob, or you might have to walk a few miles home through shitty neighborhoods. You elitists seriously need to move into a cardboard box for a couple weeks to get over yourselves.
So....your complaint is that McDonalds gave your mentally ill son a job, and then a second chance? You must own Atlas Wanked in paperback, hardbound, first run printing, DVD, BluRay, laserdisc....
Why there's a perfectly good reason for homeless people to have smartphones: job hunting. Especially in a shitty economy, having access to a phone and internet can be vital when searching for jobs. If Wal-Mart can't call you back for a second interview, they'll just shrug their shoulders and hire one of the other 200 applicants from that week. That decent paying job that fits in with your education and work experience that you just found out about? Filled last week by an applicant that responded the same day it was posted.
But aside from all that, it's truly disgusting how conservatives demand a certain level of misery of the poor before giving them an iota of "respect".
If you think being poor and homeless is such a riot, why don't you try it yourself first before looking down your nose at other people. Like 9 out of 10 people choose to sleep under bridges, choose to carry shivs in case someone tries to beat/rob them, choose to deal with harassment from cops, and so on and so on.
As opposed to client states and fascist dictatorships supported by the U.S., with military bases right on the USSR's doorstep. And then the U.S., with no sense of shame, flipped shit over stationing missiles in Cuba.
Do you have something hard? All Americans had to do was negotiate a surrender with the Japanese, who were trying to do so while keeping their Emperor as a face-saving gesture. The idea that we just HAD to occupy the country was a joke, as the two most powerful navies in the world no longer had to focus on containing Germany, and Japan's was destroyed.
Instead, we nuked two cities to get our "unconditional surrender", and then....let the Japanese keep their Emperor.
ID postulates that life was too complex to have evolved on it's own, so it must have been Created by some unnamed Higher Power.
Just because it's not Adam and Eve and Steve from Genesis doesn't mean that it's not creationism.
Maybe that's an obviously self-reinforcing cycle. Cuz gamers waiting to buy GTA aren't going to buy a PC copy of the game months after they bought the console version for the same price.
Right. Just like how every time Google has been threatened with having local regulations applied to them in France or Germany or what have you, the for-profit corporation writes off the countries involved and pulls up shop.
Unless they, you know, cave. Which is pretty much every time.
Which is also not turning into North Korea or walling themselves off from the rest of the world. Any other ways you want to highlight the fact that your post was nothing more than a knee-jerk response?
How is a politician far to the right of Ronald Reagan "liberal"? Obama is as much or more right-wing as his predecessor on military, economic, energy and educational issues. You can't even call him liberal for gay marriage since Cheney "evolved" to the same position 7 years in advance.
Oh noes!!! Wont someone please think of the billionaire oligarchs who want to privatize national resources so they can cut wages, increase prices and ignore safety and environmental concerns! Let's start a kickstarter campaign for the poor beleaguered billionaire that has more influence than a million registered voters!!!
The rest of the post isn't so bad. Obama fell all over himself during his campaign to assure voters that he would reign in abusing spying, only to massively expand it once he because president. The Brazilian government might be just as full of it here - a little fauxrage to make the homefront happy with zero follow-through.
They aren't talking about building their own gated AOL. RTFA.
So mail.google.com.br should have its servers in Brazil and presumably be subjected to Brazilian oversight. That's not exactly 'turning into North Korea'.
The hell it isn't. Try Googling Dick Cheney and the Clean Water Act before you embarrass yourself. Whoops, too late.
Obama's energy policies are utterly indistinguishable from his Republican predecessor - "all of the above". Why do you think he appointed Ken Salazar? Sad thing for you wingers is that all the honest criticism of Obama comes from the left.
Good sarcasm. Because, if it's not, food recalls alone would make a (very poor) liar out of you. If I brought up the BP disaster in the Gulf it would just get embarrassing.
A simply stupid question, you mean. No, strike that - a painfully stupid question. If you don't know what temperatures have been like for the last 15 years why are you bothering to pretend you know what you're talking about in a discussion on climate change? And that's before getting to the fact that the answer to your "question" has been posted multiple times in this thread alone.
Do also jump into discussions on U.S. politics and then ask for evidence that Barack Obama is black?
Let's go ahead and give you that winger trolling point, but that does...what to explain the fact they produce twice as many cars while paying their workers twice as much.
Nice try. That was comparing motor vehicles total, which includes everything from mopeds to semis. That's moving the goalpost away from the point, which was cars.
So, we're back to your Randian butthurt. Must be a frequent experience for you, since Randians are invariably wrong about everything.
As if Fandroids are at risk of being downmodded. You could of course take the same sort of list describing an Android system update with the same borish responses that someone else did it first, but that's not going to rocket you to +5, Wankery.
Does that mean science takes a back seat to industry profit, just like in the U.S.? You know, stuff like letting food and drug manufacturers "self regulate" or exempting fracking from environmental laws.
No. The thing to keep in mind is that this is a tautology to pretend that grant-funded research and out-come funded research are equal.
Blah blah blah blah blah. Hand wave and flop around as much as you want, it's not going to change the fact that you're standing with Dyson on a faith-based talking point rather than bothering with coming up with actual science.
Enjoy your religious denialism.