Since when is it punishing to have to pay back into a system (society) that you've profited from? Since when is it "punishment" to be taxed at a rate where you can only buy a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and a McManshion every single year of your life?
And if you bothered to check, you'd might found out that most Americans don't have thousands of dollars just lying around to rent a new apartment in a new town while paying off their old lease, and the job market sucks, so you can't just move to a new town and start working for shits and giggles.
If the guy doesn't have qualms calling you, a U.S. citizen, a terrorist and placing you on a CIA hit list, and then try to deny your father the right to hire an attorney on your behalf, somehow I doubt he's going to think twice about tapping your phone without a warrant.
They provide ongoing column space to a number of writers with wildly different viewpoints.
Except when they don't. Like on foreign policy and military matters. Like the subject of this story. For those issues, people start at Nixon's level and them move farther and farther to the right.
Then there's known facts vs what the media bothers to report vs what's common knowledge.
Examples:
Britain & the U.S. overthrew Iran's peaceful, secular government in 1953
Israel has 200+ nuclear weapons, yet everyone freaks the fuck out of over the possibility that Iran might get a nuclear weapon...
...and that Iran hasn't attacked on of it's neighbors in 200 years, compared to Israel's multiple assaults on the Palestinians and surrounding countries
That the media was so busy making up total bullshit on Al Gore in 2000 (inventing the Inernet, Love Story, Love Canal, etc etc) that it completely ignored the fact that Bush took credit for passing patient's rights legislation that he actually vetoed as governor of Texas
Al Gore won Florida, as subsequent state-wise recounts proved
None of this things would be "new" news, but it would be news if the media started talking about them.
Strangely enough, I'm pretty sure the US and Russian stockpiles of nuclear weapons made the world safer overall.
If you define "the world" as "US and Russia", maybe. Because there were no shortage of proxy wars in South America, Africa, and Asia with the communists and capitalists supplying different sides.
Ha. Ha. I'd like to see some documentation for that absurd claim. Here's a fact for you: the invention of the smallpox vaccine ALONE saves more than 2 million children worldwide EVERY YEAR (that was the death toll as recently as 1967).
Blah blah.
1. The smallpox vaccine was developed over a hundred years ago - before WWI and WWII, much less Vietnam, much less Afghanistan. 2. It was invented by an Englishman.
What person was that, exactly. Not to mention the fact that your "argument" ignores the reasons not to put in card slots:
1. It's going to make the device more flimsy 2....or it's going to make it more bulky 3. If the majority of the population wanted card slots, they'd be buying players with card slots in them
Who cite facts and make full quotes in context? What about them?
Here's a more hair splitting for you to read
Fixed that, too. Unfortunately for you, a vote against a bill that restricts abortion does not equate to supporting infanticide, no matter how many contortions you stretch yourself into.
What I'm talking about is the various Hollywood liberals who support gun rights, except not for themselves, exactly as I stated it.
You're still moving your mouth up and down, and words are falling out, but they don't mean anything whatsoever. So take the liberal celebrity of your chose - say Barbra Striesand - and she wants to ban handguns. A handgun ban is also going to...prevent her from buying handguns. What part of this is so hard for you to understand....
It's not what he said. He didn't say 'Daily Kos is just as bad as tea-partiers.'
He was talking about accuracy. So was I.
no one goes to the Daily Kos expecting clear-minding political analysis.
Based on what, exactly. When has their front-page analysis been cloudy-minded. Diaries don't count, since many of them are written by fanboys.
Incidentally, if anyone is looking for the most hilariously brain-dead knee-jerk defensive post, check this out. He finds it easier to believe that the entire electoral system is wrong, rather than give up his faith in his favorite website. This despite the fact that that website has admitted it's a problem, and it's obviously not even the website's fault.
Bleh. Actually my favorite is still the Dkos diary commending Obama for his "pragmatic" offshore drilling policy, a couple of weeks before Deep Horizon blew up. The diarist, who spent months telling us how great mandates and excise taxes would be, hasn't been seen much since them.
Except we're entitled to point out that their service is a joke. And, as a part of free speech, you are entitled to whine about people not being impressed with a company's product. And then, apparently, whine some more.
First, as far as I know Bill Kristol has been on shows that discuss the news, not shows that report the news.
Hmm, let me copy that part you blockquoted, putting a different part in bold this time:
Which doesn't explain why he's still invited on news programs, but nice attempt at misdirection. Maybe you'd like to take a shot at explaining why Dan Rather was fired - over guard memos that were sourced for the accuracy of their content - *yet reporters* writing and airing "news articles" featuring the bogus claims of the Bush Administration still have their jobs.
What states have police officers that DON'T ask for a drivers license when pulled over?
Which states have laws like Arizona's? Nice try on moving those goalposts. Well, not really.
The government has always been the problem...for generations.
What ended racial discrimination? What saved the economy during the Great Depression? What ensures that the food you eat isn't poisonous, and the water you drink isn't chock full of e-coli or arsenic? What builds the roads you use?
This new health care bill has shattered an already broken system under the guise of "fixing it". The level of bureaucracy rivals that of our tax code. Wholly inefficient with too many middle-men involved. Entire worthless industries are created because of it.
It hasn't shattered the system, it's extended the system to the rest of Americans by forcing them to either buy insurance from greedy corporations or subsidize those who cannot afford it - who then have to buy it from greedy corporations. The problem with the health bill is that it wasn't a government takeover of the insurance industry.
I'm simply gobsmacked! Are you INSANE?! Have you not seen the levels of unemployment, drop in consumer spending, home sales drop, and unemployment benefits drying up? States are going BROKE! By 2012, our debt is poised to overtake our GDP! That should frighten you.
WHOOSH. The fantasy part wasn't that our economy is in the shitter, the fantasy was your Beckian talking point of "trillion dollar slush fund".
Correct, and they will be held responsible.
How. How will they be held responsible.
and one of the largest concentration of Unions
Annnnnnd?
But hey, lets prop up their failure anyways right? We're paying for it.
Slight problem with that: the unions didn't fail. Management failed by continuing to insist on producing high margin gas guzzlers rather than make smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, same as the leadup to the energy crisis in the 70's. And then after Katrina hit and gas prices went through the roof, Detroit had it's lunch eaten by the Japanese - same as in the 70's.
Would be to scrap the IRS and the entire tax accounting industries that it has spawned. If you want a fair tax system that holds our government truly accountable, check out www.fuckthemiddleclass.org.
Fixed that, too. The UnFair tax is a tax increase on the lower class, while allowing the rich to pay an even smaller percentage of their wealth. In fact, you take any Republican/Libertarian/wingnut talking point on economics and boil it down to its essence, and that's what you'll find: a rationalization for giving the rich even more money.
Didn't you get the memo? Bush was a huge tax spender. Many conservatives are still pissed at him for that.
Yes, many conservatives are "pissed" at Bush. Too bad they're all bald faced liars.
There has never been a single income tax increase in history that has created a single job either.
You aren't even trying, are you? NASA creates jobs. The military creates jobs. Research funding creates jobs. Infrastructure spending creates jobs. Guess how these can all be funded? Ever wonder why we had money for shit like going to the moon in the 70's? It's because we had a 70% tax rate at the time (91% under Eisenhower).
Members of DKos have gone from far left to completely off the political chart.
...and once again, you wouldn't know far left if it bit you on the ass. Seriously, take a nice vacation to North Korea, and get back to us on that one. Good luck with your appointment.
European leaders are trying to rein in their spending because they see the economic writing on the wall.
No, that would be the aforementioned soaking of the middle class after the rich got bailed out. European countries have cut corporate taxes and regulation...the problem isn't that we're becoming more like Europe, it's the Europe has become more like us.
Obama and his Democrats insist on charging straight ahead and spending more
Because it's the only way out of a depression. Before the banking reforms signed by FDR, we experienced booms and depressions on a regular basis, that sometimes lasted decades. When you have a demand-based economy, and demand has collapsed, the only entity capable of stimulating new demand is the federal government.
even if it means rolling back their worthless campaign promises not to raise taxes on earners under $250k
[Citation needed (again)]
Make no mistake, they are targeting you and I to pick up the tab for their heavy-spending ways.
The part you're leaving out is that it's the working class that's going to have to take it up the ass so the rich can go right on increasing their share of the wealth. Just action would be bringing back the 91% tax rates, Holder laying waste to Wall Street firms with a wave of prosecutions, and of course lopping a zero off the end of our defense spending.
Then there's plenty of other pathetic straw men and canards
FTFY.
Freedom of Speech... unless you disagree with the guy, or it has the possibility of offending someone.
In reference to what? Tipper Gore and CD's? Just one slight problem for you....liberal != Democrat. When Democrats back shit like banning violent video games and passing flag-burning laws, they aren't being liberal, they're being conservative.
Strong government... unless they get involved in your personal life.
Simplistic nonsense, but you knew that already. There is no contradiction in wanting to protect access to abortion, and wanting to keep your local coal mine from dumping toxic waste into the nearby river. Because the woman having an abortion only affects her family, while the coal mine affects everyone downstream.
Higher taxes... but not for ourselves.
Higher taxes on those who can afford it (i.e., the rich). And many liberals are rich, which you have no doubt spent time whining about as a good little wingnut (Hollywood liberals).
Restriction on gun rights... except not for ourselves.
WTF are you talking about. A restriction on xyz guns affects everyone.
Seeing a trend here?
Yup, lots of tired wingnut propaganda that was old 20 years ago. Yawn.
I wasn't aware a 9 month old fetus was a blob of cells with as much brainpower as an average garden worm.
No one has an abortion at 9 months for shits and giggles. No one. If there is an abortion, it's either because the fetus has severe birth defects, or because the mother's life is in danger. Another wingnut straw man bites the dust.
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Since when is it punishing to have to pay back into a system (society) that you've profited from? Since when is it "punishment" to be taxed at a rate where you can only buy a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and a McManshion every single year of your life?
And if you bothered to check, you'd might found out that most Americans don't have thousands of dollars just lying around to rent a new apartment in a new town while paying off their old lease, and the job market sucks, so you can't just move to a new town and start working for shits and giggles.
You have higher earners paying larger percentages of tax
When they earn even higher percentages of the nation's income.
Right, because regulating food and drug safety meant a government takeover of our food and drug supplies....
If the guy doesn't have qualms calling you, a U.S. citizen, a terrorist and placing you on a CIA hit list, and then try to deny your father the right to hire an attorney on your behalf, somehow I doubt he's going to think twice about tapping your phone without a warrant.
They provide ongoing column space to a number of writers with wildly different viewpoints.
Except when they don't. Like on foreign policy and military matters. Like the subject of this story. For those issues, people start at Nixon's level and them move farther and farther to the right.
...for repeating the "nothing new here" line.
Then there's known facts vs what the media bothers to report vs what's common knowledge.
Examples:
None of this things would be "new" news, but it would be news if the media started talking about them.
Prove it.
Sure can.
Yes, the negative impact on unemployment rates would be tremendous, as wasteful pork got slashed to fund infrastructure spending and civilian R&D.
Strangely enough, I'm pretty sure the US and Russian stockpiles of nuclear weapons made the world safer overall.
If you define "the world" as "US and Russia", maybe. Because there were no shortage of proxy wars in South America, Africa, and Asia with the communists and capitalists supplying different sides.
Ha. Ha. I'd like to see some documentation for that absurd claim. Here's a fact for you: the invention of the smallpox vaccine ALONE saves more than 2 million children worldwide EVERY YEAR (that was the death toll as recently as 1967).
Blah blah.
1. The smallpox vaccine was developed over a hundred years ago - before WWI and WWII, much less Vietnam, much less Afghanistan.
2. It was invented by an Englishman.
It's a democratic republic. The two are not mutually exclusive, much to the dismay of retentive pedants everywhere.
What person was that, exactly. Not to mention the fact that your "argument" ignores the reasons not to put in card slots:
1. It's going to make the device more flimsy ...or it's going to make it more bulky
2.
3. If the majority of the population wanted card slots, they'd be buying players with card slots in them
Then you don't know much.
Wow, didn't see that coming.
Except when you deliberately ignore context to perpetuate a zombie lie.
Really? Name one Apple fanboi on this site. Just one.
No. Fighting tournaments are for...get this...fighting. No one tries to get a record contract for their band because they want to get ripped off.
If you go making analogies, perhaps you should get yourself a clue and try to make ones that don't insult human intelligence.
Whoosh.
Who cite facts and make full quotes in context? What about them?
Fixed that, too. Unfortunately for you, a vote against a bill that restricts abortion does not equate to supporting infanticide, no matter how many contortions you stretch yourself into.
You're still moving your mouth up and down, and words are falling out, but they don't mean anything whatsoever. So take the liberal celebrity of your chose - say Barbra Striesand - and she wants to ban handguns. A handgun ban is also going to...prevent her from buying handguns. What part of this is so hard for you to understand....
He was talking about accuracy. So was I.
Based on what, exactly. When has their front-page analysis been cloudy-minded. Diaries don't count, since many of them are written by fanboys.
Bleh. Actually my favorite is still the Dkos diary commending Obama for his "pragmatic" offshore drilling policy, a couple of weeks before Deep Horizon blew up. The diarist, who spent months telling us how great mandates and excise taxes would be, hasn't been seen much since them.
Except we're entitled to point out that their service is a joke. And, as a part of free speech, you are entitled to whine about people not being impressed with a company's product. And then, apparently, whine some more.
First, as far as I know Bill Kristol has been on shows that discuss the news, not shows that report the news.
Hmm, let me copy that part you blockquoted, putting a different part in bold this time:
Which states have laws like Arizona's? Nice try on moving those goalposts. Well, not really.
What ended racial discrimination? What saved the economy during the Great Depression? What ensures that the food you eat isn't poisonous, and the water you drink isn't chock full of e-coli or arsenic? What builds the roads you use?
It hasn't shattered the system, it's extended the system to the rest of Americans by forcing them to either buy insurance from greedy corporations or subsidize those who cannot afford it - who then have to buy it from greedy corporations. The problem with the health bill is that it wasn't a government takeover of the insurance industry.
WHOOSH. The fantasy part wasn't that our economy is in the shitter, the fantasy was your Beckian talking point of "trillion dollar slush fund".
How. How will they be held responsible.
Annnnnnd?
Slight problem with that: the unions didn't fail. Management failed by continuing to insist on producing high margin gas guzzlers rather than make smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, same as the leadup to the energy crisis in the 70's. And then after Katrina hit and gas prices went through the roof, Detroit had it's lunch eaten by the Japanese - same as in the 70's.
Fixed that, too. The UnFair tax is a tax increase on the lower class, while allowing the rich to pay an even smaller percentage of their wealth. In fact, you take any Republican/Libertarian/wingnut talking point on economics and boil it down to its essence, and that's what you'll find: a rationalization for giving the rich even more money.
Yes, many conservatives are "pissed" at Bush. Too bad they're all bald faced liars.
You aren't even trying, are you? NASA creates jobs. The military creates jobs. Research funding creates jobs. Infrastructure spending creates jobs. Guess how these can all be funded? Ever wonder why we had money for shit like going to the moon in the 70's? It's because we had a 70% tax rate at the time (91% under Eisenhower).
...and once again, you wouldn't know far left if it bit you on the ass. Seriously, take a nice vacation to North Korea, and get back to us on that one. Good luck with your appointment.
No, that would be the aforementioned soaking of the middle class after the rich got bailed out. European countries have cut corporate taxes and regulation...the problem isn't that we're becoming more like Europe, it's the Europe has become more like us.
Because it's the only way out of a depression. Before the banking reforms signed by FDR, we experienced booms and depressions on a regular basis, that sometimes lasted decades. When you have a demand-based economy, and demand has collapsed, the only entity capable of stimulating new demand is the federal government.
[Citation needed (again)]
The part you're leaving out is that it's the working class that's going to have to take it up the ass so the rich can go right on increasing their share of the wealth. Just action would be bringing back the 91% tax rates, Holder laying waste to Wall Street firms with a wave of prosecutions, and of course lopping a zero off the end of our defense spending.
None of which is likely to happen.
FTFY.
In reference to what? Tipper Gore and CD's? Just one slight problem for you....liberal != Democrat. When Democrats back shit like banning violent video games and passing flag-burning laws, they aren't being liberal, they're being conservative.
Simplistic nonsense, but you knew that already. There is no contradiction in wanting to protect access to abortion, and wanting to keep your local coal mine from dumping toxic waste into the nearby river. Because the woman having an abortion only affects her family, while the coal mine affects everyone downstream.
Higher taxes on those who can afford it (i.e., the rich). And many liberals are rich, which you have no doubt spent time whining about as a good little wingnut (Hollywood liberals).
WTF are you talking about. A restriction on xyz guns affects everyone.
Yup, lots of tired wingnut propaganda that was old 20 years ago. Yawn.
No one has an abortion at 9 months for shits and giggles. No one. If there is an abortion, it's either because the fetus has severe birth defects, or because the mother's life is in danger. Another wingnut straw man bites the dust.
i.e, another baseless wingnut lie. Funny how often that happens.