Then your example is impossible, also possibly called a strawman.
Wow. Sounds like Tom Delay:
"Emotional appeals about working families trying to get by on $4.25 an hour [the minimum wage in 1996] are hard to resist. Fortunately, such families do not exist."
If you don't have money for insurance to drive a car, you probably don't have enough money to travel to another city, look for a job, find a place, put down a deposit and the first months rent (even more problematic if you have bad credit). You probably also don't have money to pack up your families stuff (remember the 3 kids).
So, the pithy "just move" advise isn't a real world solution if you are poor and struggling.
Geez...at least with the private sector doing it....they don't have all the red tape and bureaucracy.
Um, the private sector has plenty of it's own red tape and bureaucracy - ever done purchasing for a large company? But while both government bureaucrats and business executives can be corrupt, inefficient, and run the organization into the ground, at least the bureaucrat isn't also making $10 million a year in the process.
Freedom of association is a constitutional right. To have freedom of association, you have to have freedom to travel. And for most of this county, traveling means driving a car.
Vehicle crashes in the US kill more people monthly than all of the September 11th attacks combined.
Which happens due to dangerous driving, which is rarely due to driving over the speed limit. There's an easy standard to use for setting speed limits: the 85th percentile rule.
That doesn't mean you have the right to drive dangerously, run red lights when no one is looking, or drive without insurance, which, in case you hadn't noticed, are the things we're discussing, here.
I stop for yellow lights, and I routinely get honked at by people behind me
Good. Yellow means caution, not stop. Breaking for a yellow when you can easily go through the intersection makes you a dick, and you're asking for an accident.
even when it means they would have been running a red light.
If you want to enforce traffic laws, become a cop. Otherwise, it's none of your business.
This is particularly egregious when it's a left turn lane that has a red "no left turn permitted" arrow.
Because if it's a single lane (as opposed to two turning lanes in the same direction) that's total bullshit. If there is no oncoming traffic, there is no reason to wait for a green arrow.
You fail at reality, and are missing the forest for the trees. The Walkman was a portable audio player. What's the iPod? A portable audio player. Sony had the dominate name in audio, and Apple wasn't the first company to make an mp3 player, or even to use hard drives instead of flash memory.
So once again: Apple didn't win because they had better marketing. They won because they had a better product.
Oh, pull your head out already. You're like a car dealer who threatens to call the cops on someone in your shop because he took a couple complimentary doughnuts with him, when he just bought a car from you. But anyone that stupid wouldn't be in business for very long. I've averaged at least one Apple product for each year of my life. You know...a dedicated, repeat customer. That you're blathering so much on someone else's product that they give away for free with new machines (which I JUST bought) means you seriously need to buy some pot, buy some prunes, and lighten the fuck up already. Because I'm sure you NEVER copied a DVD, all your installed software follows the EULA to a "T", you never took a drink before you were 21, and of course never speed in your car.
love all that legalese.
It's called reality. Once you've taken care of that anal obstruction of yours, you might check it out sometime.
That's "stealing" to any 5 year old.
Let's put this in terms a five year old can understand: what's the difference for you if I steal your car, versus making a complete copy while leaving yours parked in your driveway. Ruminate on the difference for a while, or ask the nearest five year old if you have to.
Advertising in an area in which they were was no established leader, combined with a decent piece of hardware.
There's this company called "Sony" and it had this thing called the "Walkman" which was a portable audio player that used these things called "tapes". Apple didn't take over the portable market because of marketing, they took over because they had a superior product.
It's not an ad hominem when it's true. Those that whine about Apple not supporting Rockbox and Ogg are blathering narcissists. Just go ahead and buy the player that does what you want it to do already.
And you, sir, are a wanker for apologizing for other wankers.
Hurray for DRM, vendors lock in and no interoperability.
By all means, don't let facts interfere with your storyline. Any files you ripped using iTunes are playable on other players and other computers. Any songs you buy from the online store are also playable on other players and other computers. The only thing that still has DRM are video files purchased through the store, and you can take that up with Hollywood and the television studios.
Problem: all your rhetorical masturbation can't mask your blathering stupidity. As evidenced by...
Well played sir, putting the word "wank" in your sentence sure annulled the fact that IT IS PRETTY DAMN EVIL TO INTENTIONALLY GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO SABOTAGE PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT THEIR HARDWARE TO PLAY NICE WITH THEIR SOFTWARE.
And what about the firmware encryption prevents the iTouch or iPhone from "playing nice" with iTunes, exactly? Jack and shit, and Jack left town.
No, it's not. The parent, since you didn't comprehend his post the first time:
I have an iPod, I need something with "Made for iPod"
vs
I have an iPod, I need something with a 3.5mm headphone jack, and a button with a chip capable of sending the right signals to my iPod.
For all intents and purposes, that 3.5mm jack on the shuffle isn't standard at all
And the point is....? If you want to have an mp3 player with regular buttons....then buy an mp3 player with regular buttons. Really, try it some time.
"Well it works great if you have apple hardware connected to the usb ports, but if you want to use your usb printer/memory stick/whaterver, you should buy just this small adapter (link to apple store)."
WTF are you talking about. Apple does have a non-standard USB port on the Macbook Air, but that's to supply extra power for a USB-only DVD drive. You can still use your printer/memory sticks just fine.
I don't want to live in that world, world of lock-in
And who's holding a gun to your head to make you do so?
Seriously, encrypting firmware? How evil is that? How can apple apologists even try to justify that?
Because Apple doesn't advertise iPods as being open devices with open firmware? That all the system requirements specify iTunes, which specifies Max OS X or Windows? How can the Apple haters even whine about this?
If you want to buy an MP3 player and run Wankbox on it so you can play OggWankis files, then go ahead and buy one that supports it, and don't give Apple a cent of your money. It's a free country.
It's sort of like Bush Administration officials on Iraqi WMD's: if they weren't lying through their teeth, they were less competent than a jellyfish. Pick your poison.
You still insist on accusing them with no proof and nothing to back you, yet you don't seem to realise the irony.
Yawn. And you don't realize that you're asking him to prove a negative.
Manufacturer confirms chip: iPod headphones now have the Apple Tax
Remember that old saw about how "a lie travels around the world before the truth has a chance to put it's shoes on"? The original liar obviously deserves most of the blame, but that doesn't absolve everyone who spread the lie of responsibility.
Then why does Apple still have 80% of the mp3 player market. And don't give us that BS about advertising; if Apple's marketing was all-powerful, then why are they behind Dell & HP in marketshare.
If you don't like the new headphones - don't frikkin buy a new shuffle.
You're telling me to wake up??? Sheesh!
He was being nice. I'd tell you to pull your head out, as there are no set standards for you to whine about. If Apple wants to release an mp3 player that only works with an infrared remote control and bluetooth headphones, that's their business. And you of course are free to take your business elsewhere.
Last time I checked women were more likely to be of average IQ than men, while more men had either very low or very high IQ's.
Yup, that was my point.
So the statement about more men having low IQ's is probably valid, but then so is the converse about more men being geniuses...
And it's funny how feminists get their panties in a bunch over one but not the other. Women are crushing men in college attendance and getting degrees, but we still have to "empower" women and girls so they can also take the lead in math & science when they lead in every other area of study.
Pointing out that someone is full of crap != fanboy. If I called Steve Jobs a cannibal, and you said there was no evidence that he is, would that make you a fanboy? Didn't think so.
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Then your example is impossible, also possibly called a strawman.
Wow. Sounds like Tom Delay:
If you don't have money for insurance to drive a car, you probably don't have enough money to travel to another city, look for a job, find a place, put down a deposit and the first months rent (even more problematic if you have bad credit). You probably also don't have money to pack up your families stuff (remember the 3 kids).
So, the pithy "just move" advise isn't a real world solution if you are poor and struggling.
Geez...at least with the private sector doing it....they don't have all the red tape and bureaucracy.
Um, the private sector has plenty of it's own red tape and bureaucracy - ever done purchasing for a large company? But while both government bureaucrats and business executives can be corrupt, inefficient, and run the organization into the ground, at least the bureaucrat isn't also making $10 million a year in the process.
Let them start to CUT spending first.
And why do you want another depression, exactly?
Driving is a privilege, not a right.
Freedom of association is a constitutional right. To have freedom of association, you have to have freedom to travel. And for most of this county, traveling means driving a car.
Vehicle crashes in the US kill more people monthly than all of the September 11th attacks combined.
Which happens due to dangerous driving, which is rarely due to driving over the speed limit. There's an easy standard to use for setting speed limits: the 85th percentile rule.
That doesn't mean you have the right to drive dangerously, run red lights when no one is looking, or drive without insurance, which, in case you hadn't noticed, are the things we're discussing, here.
No, those would be straw men.
I stop for yellow lights, and I routinely get honked at by people behind me
Good. Yellow means caution, not stop. Breaking for a yellow when you can easily go through the intersection makes you a dick, and you're asking for an accident.
even when it means they would have been running a red light.
If you want to enforce traffic laws, become a cop. Otherwise, it's none of your business.
This is particularly egregious when it's a left turn lane that has a red "no left turn permitted" arrow.
Because if it's a single lane (as opposed to two turning lanes in the same direction) that's total bullshit. If there is no oncoming traffic, there is no reason to wait for a green arrow.
You fail at reality, and are missing the forest for the trees. The Walkman was a portable audio player. What's the iPod? A portable audio player. Sony had the dominate name in audio, and Apple wasn't the first company to make an mp3 player, or even to use hard drives instead of flash memory.
So once again: Apple didn't win because they had better marketing. They won because they had a better product.
Keep rationalizing it...
Oh, pull your head out already. You're like a car dealer who threatens to call the cops on someone in your shop because he took a couple complimentary doughnuts with him, when he just bought a car from you. But anyone that stupid wouldn't be in business for very long. I've averaged at least one Apple product for each year of my life. You know...a dedicated, repeat customer. That you're blathering so much on someone else's product that they give away for free with new machines (which I JUST bought) means you seriously need to buy some pot, buy some prunes, and lighten the fuck up already. Because I'm sure you NEVER copied a DVD, all your installed software follows the EULA to a "T", you never took a drink before you were 21, and of course never speed in your car.
love all that legalese.
It's called reality. Once you've taken care of that anal obstruction of yours, you might check it out sometime.
That's "stealing" to any 5 year old.
Let's put this in terms a five year old can understand: what's the difference for you if I steal your car, versus making a complete copy while leaving yours parked in your driveway. Ruminate on the difference for a while, or ask the nearest five year old if you have to.
Advertising in an area in which they were was no established leader, combined with a decent piece of hardware.
There's this company called "Sony" and it had this thing called the "Walkman" which was a portable audio player that used these things called "tapes". Apple didn't take over the portable market because of marketing, they took over because they had a superior product.
And I cry at night because my iPod doesn't play Wii games. Seriously dude, pull your head out already. Since you like bold:
IF THE IPOD DOESN'T DO WHAT YOU WANT, BUY A PLAYER THAT DOES.
Oh. My. God. No-one can possibly be that stupid.
Pot. Kettle. Black. Bitch.
I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where not only Apple was holding a gun to your head, but BMW as well.
Must be a tough life for you wankers.
It's not an ad hominem when it's true. Those that whine about Apple not supporting Rockbox and Ogg are blathering narcissists. Just go ahead and buy the player that does what you want it to do already.
And you, sir, are a wanker for apologizing for other wankers.
Hurray for DRM, vendors lock in and no interoperability.
By all means, don't let facts interfere with your storyline. Any files you ripped using iTunes are playable on other players and other computers. Any songs you buy from the online store are also playable on other players and other computers. The only thing that still has DRM are video files purchased through the store, and you can take that up with Hollywood and the television studios.
Problem: all your rhetorical masturbation can't mask your blathering stupidity. As evidenced by...
Well played sir, putting the word "wank" in your sentence sure annulled the fact that IT IS PRETTY DAMN EVIL TO INTENTIONALLY GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO SABOTAGE PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT THEIR HARDWARE TO PLAY NICE WITH THEIR SOFTWARE.
And what about the firmware encryption prevents the iTouch or iPhone from "playing nice" with iTunes, exactly? Jack and shit, and Jack left town.
Moran.
This is a complete inverse logic here.
Only because your head and colon are inverted.
"Made for X" is inverse of "make it simple"
No, it's not. The parent, since you didn't comprehend his post the first time:
For all intents and purposes, that 3.5mm jack on the shuffle isn't standard at all
And the point is....? If you want to have an mp3 player with regular buttons....then buy an mp3 player with regular buttons. Really, try it some time.
"Well it works great if you have apple hardware connected to the usb ports, but if you want to use your usb printer/memory stick/whaterver, you should buy just this small adapter (link to apple store)."
WTF are you talking about. Apple does have a non-standard USB port on the Macbook Air, but that's to supply extra power for a USB-only DVD drive. You can still use your printer/memory sticks just fine.
I don't want to live in that world, world of lock-in
And who's holding a gun to your head to make you do so?
Seriously, encrypting firmware? How evil is that? How can apple apologists even try to justify that?
Because Apple doesn't advertise iPods as being open devices with open firmware? That all the system requirements specify iTunes, which specifies Max OS X or Windows? How can the Apple haters even whine about this?
If you want to buy an MP3 player and run Wankbox on it so you can play OggWankis files, then go ahead and buy one that supports it, and don't give Apple a cent of your money. It's a free country.
It's sort of like Bush Administration officials on Iraqi WMD's: if they weren't lying through their teeth, they were less competent than a jellyfish. Pick your poison.
You still insist on accusing them with no proof and nothing to back you, yet you don't seem to realise the irony.
Yawn. And you don't realize that you're asking him to prove a negative.
Oh grow up fanboy. They linked to someone elses story, with caveats.
Oh pull your head out. The Boing Boing headline
Remember that old saw about how "a lie travels around the world before the truth has a chance to put it's shoes on"? The original liar obviously deserves most of the blame, but that doesn't absolve everyone who spread the lie of responsibility.
while much better and cheaper alternatives
Then why does Apple still have 80% of the mp3 player market. And don't give us that BS about advertising; if Apple's marketing was all-powerful, then why are they behind Dell & HP in marketshare.
If you don't like the new headphones - don't frikkin buy a new shuffle.
You're telling me to wake up??? Sheesh!
He was being nice. I'd tell you to pull your head out, as there are no set standards for you to whine about. If Apple wants to release an mp3 player that only works with an infrared remote control and bluetooth headphones, that's their business. And you of course are free to take your business elsewhere.
AC seems to suffer from bum eyes.
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No. The point of having a channel is to maximize profits by creating low-cost thematic content that appeals to the majority of the viewing public.
Doesn't seem to hurt Lifetime or Oxygen: the chick flick channels.
Last time I checked women were more likely to be of average IQ than men, while more men had either very low or very high IQ's.
Yup, that was my point.
So the statement about more men having low IQ's is probably valid, but then so is the converse about more men being geniuses...
And it's funny how feminists get their panties in a bunch over one but not the other. Women are crushing men in college attendance and getting degrees, but we still have to "empower" women and girls so they can also take the lead in math & science when they lead in every other area of study.
The plain language meaning of that phrase implies that shared accounts are not allowed.
No, it doesn't. At all. Not even remotely close. But thanks for trying.
It's funny how otherwise Libertarian/freeper Slashdotters feel entitled to tell a company how it should build it's products.
Don't like how Apple manages the iPhone...then don't frikkin buy one. They aren't holding a gun to your head.
Pointing out that someone is full of crap != fanboy. If I called Steve Jobs a cannibal, and you said there was no evidence that he is, would that make you a fanboy? Didn't think so.
Top of the yawn list, maybe.