Radicalization is not caused by countries being engaged in war. Propaganda and radical ideology creates terrorists; nothing less, nothing more.
War has nothing to do with it? Okay, imagine that tomorrow you pass some guy on the street who asks you to join an attack on a US government building that is likely to end in your death. Imagine what your response would be to this person.
Ok, now imagine that that same guy asks you to join in the same attack - after your entire, completely innocent, extended family has been killed by drone strikes at a wedding.
So you're a Western Exceptionalist then - a superset which includes American Exceptionalists....which means you're still exceptionally stupid.
Nobody outside Russia believes that Russia has not invaded the Ukraine
To paraphrase Neil deGrasse Tyson, the neat thing about facts is that they don't give a shit what you believe. And it's a fact that as much evidence has been presented that Russia has invaded Ukraine as there has been that Russia hacked the election last year: zero.
And you skipped the second part (you are exceptionally stupid after all) so I'll just copy and paste: Even if the whining about a Russian invasion turned out to be true, it would be infinitely more justified than any American "intervention" you can name. Because the United States overthrew the elected government of Ukraine, dipshit, and immediately started positioning the junta to join NATO while supplying them weapons and billions in "aid".
It's not like the USG would sit around with its thumb up its ass if Russia overthrew the elected government of Canada and immediately started bringing their new puppet government into the Warsaw Pact. Right on America's border.
Are you saying you think the unwashed masses are graceful and/or professional? That they have any consideration for future repercussions to their actions? That they are capable of even remembering that they did this a week later? You think that acting sensibly would be more important than the 5 minutes of 'fame' they felt they would get from posting some stupid troll-rant the moment they left a job?
Interesting... Want to buy a bridge?
Want to attend a labor camp for elitist snobs? Openings are available!
Capitalism is, arguably, the "most optimal system" of any we've actually seen in action - BECAUSE it leverages people's motivation to try harder and to do more in order to get rewarded.
Sure - in a world where Jeff Bezos has as much power within Amazon as one of his delivery drivers pissing in soda bottles to make delivery dates.
The workers would benefit the most by being paid a lot and not having to work.
Except no union would ever ask for such a thing, as their long-term interests depend on the long-term welfare of the company. As opposed to corporate executives, who DGAF if the run the company into the ground if they make millions while doing so, and then millions more selling off the company's assets.
American Exceptionalists have been in the process of claiming that for years now. Nothing to back up those claims but social media posts from your literal neo-Nazi pals in Ukraine, though. How are your anti-semetic fascist friends doing these days?
You've really got to break your mind out of thinking this way - Its not healthy
Or, you could pull your head out. Even if the whining about a Russian invasion turned out to be true, it would be infinitely more justified than any American "intervention" you can name. Because the United States overthrew the elected government of Ukraine, dipshit, and immediately started positioning the junta to join NATO while supplying them weapons and billions in "aid".
It's not like the USG would sit around with its thumb up its ass if Russia overthrew the elected government of Canada and immediately started bringing their new puppet government into the Warsaw Pact. Right on America's border.
This is why you never go full American Exceptionalist...it makes you exceptionally stupid.
For myself, it's pretty simple: regulation should have some degree of popular support
That's a given, unless it's regulation passed at the behest of crony capitalist campaign donors.
Speaking of hypocrisy, a lot of liberals screech endlessly about evils of businesses/corporations, but are silent when those business interests act in their political interest (immigration, mass illegal immigration, and a free speech crackdown on social media).
Except the liberals you speak of are just another variety of conservative. Just one that likes to lie to himself and others as to how right-wing he is.
immigration, mass illegal immigration
I'm sensing a theme here. Question though: can you name a single South American country that hasn't been overthrown by the United States at least once? In a just word, the United States would owe trillions in restitution from every country from Mexico to Argentina. Or, you could let the victims of your foreign and trade policies to cross the border and work at a gas station.
When they still owe the US hundreds of millions for the breach of contract, criminal acts, and mass confiscations?
You can take it out of the hundreds of billions you owe them for overthrowing their democracy, backing Iraq when it invaded Iran, shooting down one of their passenger jets murdering all crew and passengers, and the decades you spent supporting a torture-loving dictator.
Dipshit.
That's an admission of a nuclear weapons program right there
What part of "even Mossad admits Iran has no nuclear weapons program" did you have a hard time understanding?
It never even suggested that Iran was not TRYING to become capable of building them
That's exactly what "they don't have a nuclear weapons program" means, dipshit.
It doesn't matter what amount of time and resources Mueller's got. His investigation is not finished, and therefore we don't know what he's got in the way of evidence.
Sure we know and here's how: if this were an actual investigation the first thing Mueller would have subpoenaed would be the DNC servers that were allegedly hacked. It's the central Jenga block upon which the entire Russigate narrative is based - but he's shown no interest in having the FBI analyze them. Dems keep wanting to hang their hat on the CrowdStrike report, but if the heavens part and hand Mueller something indictable, the defense will shred that "evidence" as it came from a biased firm with a shoddy track record, rather than from the government making the claim that xyz happened.
So either:
1) This isn't a real investigation and never was
2) Mueller is too incompetent to be heading such an investigation
But instead dropped off a plane-load of gold and cash.
Their own gold and cash we had stolen from them after they dared rebel against the CIA-installed dictator.
To find a nuclear weapons program very much alive and well, thank you very much
Never happened. When even Mossad will tell you Iran had no nuclear weapons program, why do you American Exceptionalists even bother pretending otherwise?
...and terrorists, as used in Ukraine,Libya, and Syria. Prominent politicians including Howard Dean have lobbied for MEK, which was on the State Department's list of terror groups until people started asking why people like Dean weren't being prosecuted, when the government sent someone to prison for carrying a Hezbollah TV channel. Iran has been on the "regime change" list since they kicked out the Shah. Obama spent years threatening to attack Iran for a nuclear weapons program he knew they didn't have, and Trump hasn't been any better.
We hate the zealots who champion Apple like it's their football team.
You mean people who don't actually exist? Y'all Hatebois are like Birchers, ranting about how the United States is being overrun with communists when they've never been within a thousand miles of one.
But the bottom line is that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world.
That's a lie, as U.S. corporations pay very little compared to the rest of the world after deductions. But you knew that already.
If you want to compete we need to lower that.
Except: no tax cut on profits has ever created a single job or spurred investment. Ever. If a company thinks it will make more money by hiring more people or buying more equipment - it will hire more people or buy more equipment. Tax rates are completely irrelevant to that calculus.
We got sold out when those welfare programs were first designed with baked-in insolvency as their inevitable end.
Try not to be TOO much of an unhinged Randian dipshit. The programs are self-funded through payroll taxes. Even in the event of another Great Depression, it's impossible for them to become insolvent because there will always be some money coming in to pay for some benefits going out.
You know what fails to get mentioned when this Fusion Research topic comes up? That a Republican initially financed it.
Because it's irrelevant. It does nothing to change the fact that the Clinton campaign did themsleves of what they accused Trump of doing - conspiring with foreign intelligence agents to swing an election. And the paid for it.
Also, investigating any ties between Trump and Russia do not HINGE on that stupid document.
The positively Biblical levels of hypocrisy on the part of Democrats certainly hinges on it. The hacking narrative is dependent on the idea that Russia hacked the DNC servers - which the FBI has never been allowed to examine. And yet people continue to eat up Russiagate sundays with a spoon.
Flynn and Manafort are enough to warrant an investigation.
Vanilla, everyday corruption. Not "election meddling". And John Podesta, Hillary's campaign manager, was up to his eyeballs with the same deals as Manafort.
Except that we've had modern smart phones for 10-years and the only models that I've heard about with widespread complaints about this issue are the Nexus 6P and the iphone 6.
Well, there is the amplification effect of the Hatorade Distortion Field. There are many phones where the manufacturer advises users not to hold it wrong - but they weren't made by Apple so it wasn't a problem.
You're talking about historical events from 60+ years ago
The US-backed coup in Honduras in 2009 wasn't 60 years ago. The point of brining up Jim Crow is to show that the United States has always been a thousand pounds of human-rights violating excrement crammed into a five pound sack when complaining about the USSR/Russia. You wanna stick with current events, can you name the last time Russia tried to overthrow a foreign government? Compared to four just under Obama, with two of them successful: Venezuela, Syria, Libya & Ukraine.
So because another country once did something bad almost a century ago, its okay to do it today?
The only country "doing it today" is the United States, as Russia didn't do shit last year. Russiagaters have had over a year to put up on their accusations and have never been able to do so. Now it's time for them to STFU - after spending a few months apologizing to the rest of the country.
Kenn Starr, I mean Robert Muller, has had more than enough time and resources. No amount of extra time is going to prove that Bill Clinton ordered a hit on Vince Foster, I mean that Trump colluded with Russia.
Which was always a tall tale to begin with, as the election was Hillary's to lose right up until she picked a right-wing, pro-life running mate and skipped campaigning in the Rust Belt states that lost her the election. She also spent the spring campaigning on shooting down Russian jets over Syria. So the story is that Putin was crafty enough to get dirt on Hillary (which all happened to be true) but was dumb enough to collude with someone as dumb as Trump to use it. Which would mean the FBI/NSA/CIA would have known, and then so too would have President Hillary. You couldn't write a bad 80's action movie with this kind of plot.
When this witch hunt runs out of gas, it's going to wonders for Trump's 2020 campaign, as he can run against Dems and the media for being deranged partisan hacks.
I like how you're so butthurt about people pointing out flaws in your argument that you pre-emptively point them out and blah blah blah
I like how American Excpeitonlists are so hell-bent on engaging in willful dumbfuckery that they'll charge in with it anyway, even if it's been pre-butted.
Classic whataboutery. Tell me: does the second half of the sentance in any way ustify the USSR human rights abuses?
You just did it again, after it was laid out in advance how full of it American Excpeitonalists are for using that word.
To get back to the subject, there's an unhinged imperialist power that overthrows governments to this day, bombs nations on the other side of the world from it for bullshit reasons, spends billions overtly and covertly to influence elections around the world, wants to record the communications of every person on the planet, spends more on war than the rest of the world combined.
And over there is Russia.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion and there never will be, because it's the most painfully stupid nonsense since Birthers insisted Obama's parents planted a fake birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper, to back up a fake birth certificate so he could run for president. And I wonder how much time Cheney spends kicking himself these days - he could have skipped that whole sending-Powell-to-present-fake-evidece of Iraqi WMD's to the UN thing. Because he could have pulled any old claims dripping out of his ass and you would eat it up with a spoon, no questions asked.
We know the mantra: no evidence, MSM lies, Hillary is Satan. Nice job trying to preempt calls of whataboutery and being a Kremlin troll but of course that doesn't mean they're false.
That's exactly what it means. Russiagaters have had more than a year to put up or STFU up on their claims. Until you guys offer more evidence to back up your claims than the flat earthers/chem trailers/birthers/antivaxxers do, you are just as full of shit as they are.
You mean butthurt American Exceptionalism at its most obnoxious. There's a Time cover linked upthread of the U.S. boasting about interfering to get Yeltsin elected. As opposed to Russiagate, which has no evidence to back it up and never will, as it's hysterical partisan Birther-type bullshit. Except now it's coming from Democrats.
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War has nothing to do with it? Okay, imagine that tomorrow you pass some guy on the street who asks you to join an attack on a US government building that is likely to end in your death. Imagine what your response would be to this person.
Ok, now imagine that that same guy asks you to join in the same attack - after your entire, completely innocent, extended family has been killed by drone strikes at a wedding.
So you're a Western Exceptionalist then - a superset which includes American Exceptionalists....which means you're still exceptionally stupid.
To paraphrase Neil deGrasse Tyson, the neat thing about facts is that they don't give a shit what you believe. And it's a fact that as much evidence has been presented that Russia has invaded Ukraine as there has been that Russia hacked the election last year: zero.
And you skipped the second part (you are exceptionally stupid after all) so I'll just copy and paste: Even if the whining about a Russian invasion turned out to be true, it would be infinitely more justified than any American "intervention" you can name. Because the United States overthrew the elected government of Ukraine, dipshit, and immediately started positioning the junta to join NATO while supplying them weapons and billions in "aid".
It's not like the USG would sit around with its thumb up its ass if Russia overthrew the elected government of Canada and immediately started bringing their new puppet government into the Warsaw Pact. Right on America's border.
Want to attend a labor camp for elitist snobs? Openings are available!
Sure - in a world where Jeff Bezos has as much power within Amazon as one of his delivery drivers pissing in soda bottles to make delivery dates.
Except that's nonsense, as the union is dependent on the long term profitability of the company. So it's no contest as to which is better.
Except no union would ever ask for such a thing, as their long-term interests depend on the long-term welfare of the company. As opposed to corporate executives, who DGAF if the run the company into the ground if they make millions while doing so, and then millions more selling off the company's assets.
You mean the State Department's neo-Nazi pals in Ukraine that it used to overthrow the elected government? Yeah, those guys are assholes.
American Exceptionalists have been in the process of claiming that for years now. Nothing to back up those claims but social media posts from your literal neo-Nazi pals in Ukraine, though. How are your anti-semetic fascist friends doing these days?
Or, you could pull your head out. Even if the whining about a Russian invasion turned out to be true, it would be infinitely more justified than any American "intervention" you can name. Because the United States overthrew the elected government of Ukraine, dipshit, and immediately started positioning the junta to join NATO while supplying them weapons and billions in "aid".
It's not like the USG would sit around with its thumb up its ass if Russia overthrew the elected government of Canada and immediately started bringing their new puppet government into the Warsaw Pact. Right on America's border.
This is why you never go full American Exceptionalist...it makes you exceptionally stupid.
That's a given, unless it's regulation passed at the behest of crony capitalist campaign donors.
Except the liberals you speak of are just another variety of conservative. Just one that likes to lie to himself and others as to how right-wing he is.
I'm sensing a theme here. Question though: can you name a single South American country that hasn't been overthrown by the United States at least once? In a just word, the United States would owe trillions in restitution from every country from Mexico to Argentina. Or, you could let the victims of your foreign and trade policies to cross the border and work at a gas station.
Yeah. Their own gold and cash.
You can take it out of the hundreds of billions you owe them for overthrowing their democracy, backing Iraq when it invaded Iran, shooting down one of their passenger jets murdering all crew and passengers, and the decades you spent supporting a torture-loving dictator.
Dipshit.
What part of "even Mossad admits Iran has no nuclear weapons program" did you have a hard time understanding?
That's exactly what "they don't have a nuclear weapons program" means, dipshit.
Sure we know and here's how: if this were an actual investigation the first thing Mueller would have subpoenaed would be the DNC servers that were allegedly hacked. It's the central Jenga block upon which the entire Russigate narrative is based - but he's shown no interest in having the FBI analyze them. Dems keep wanting to hang their hat on the CrowdStrike report, but if the heavens part and hand Mueller something indictable, the defense will shred that "evidence" as it came from a biased firm with a shoddy track record, rather than from the government making the claim that xyz happened.
So either:
1) This isn't a real investigation and never was
2) Mueller is too incompetent to be heading such an investigation
It's a lose/lose proposition for Russiagaters
Their own gold and cash we had stolen from them after they dared rebel against the CIA-installed dictator.
Never happened. When even Mossad will tell you Iran had no nuclear weapons program, why do you American Exceptionalists even bother pretending otherwise?
...and terrorists, as used in Ukraine, Libya, and Syria. Prominent politicians including Howard Dean have lobbied for MEK, which was on the State Department's list of terror groups until people started asking why people like Dean weren't being prosecuted, when the government sent someone to prison for carrying a Hezbollah TV channel. Iran has been on the "regime change" list since they kicked out the Shah. Obama spent years threatening to attack Iran for a nuclear weapons program he knew they didn't have, and Trump hasn't been any better.
So, take these protests with a BIG grain of salt.
'Course you do.
You mean people who don't actually exist? Y'all Hatebois are like Birchers, ranting about how the United States is being overrun with communists when they've never been within a thousand miles of one.
That's a lie, as U.S. corporations pay very little compared to the rest of the world after deductions. But you knew that already.
Except: no tax cut on profits has ever created a single job or spurred investment. Ever. If a company thinks it will make more money by hiring more people or buying more equipment - it will hire more people or buy more equipment. Tax rates are completely irrelevant to that calculus.
Try not to be TOO much of an unhinged Randian dipshit. The programs are self-funded through payroll taxes. Even in the event of another Great Depression, it's impossible for them to become insolvent because there will always be some money coming in to pay for some benefits going out.
Hatorade Distortion Field.
Because it's irrelevant. It does nothing to change the fact that the Clinton campaign did themsleves of what they accused Trump of doing - conspiring with foreign intelligence agents to swing an election. And the paid for it.
The positively Biblical levels of hypocrisy on the part of Democrats certainly hinges on it. The hacking narrative is dependent on the idea that Russia hacked the DNC servers - which the FBI has never been allowed to examine. And yet people continue to eat up Russiagate sundays with a spoon.
Vanilla, everyday corruption. Not "election meddling". And John Podesta, Hillary's campaign manager, was up to his eyeballs with the same deals as Manafort.
Well, there is the amplification effect of the Hatorade Distortion Field. There are many phones where the manufacturer advises users not to hold it wrong - but they weren't made by Apple so it wasn't a problem.
Dumbass Fandroids. Obvious Galaxy Note exploding battery reference was obvious.
The US-backed coup in Honduras in 2009 wasn't 60 years ago. The point of brining up Jim Crow is to show that the United States has always been a thousand pounds of human-rights violating excrement crammed into a five pound sack when complaining about the USSR/Russia. You wanna stick with current events, can you name the last time Russia tried to overthrow a foreign government? Compared to four just under Obama, with two of them successful: Venezuela, Syria, Libya & Ukraine.
The only country "doing it today" is the United States, as Russia didn't do shit last year. Russiagaters have had over a year to put up on their accusations and have never been able to do so. Now it's time for them to STFU - after spending a few months apologizing to the rest of the country.
Kenn Starr, I mean Robert Muller, has had more than enough time and resources. No amount of extra time is going to prove that Bill Clinton ordered a hit on Vince Foster, I mean that Trump colluded with Russia.
Which was always a tall tale to begin with, as the election was Hillary's to lose right up until she picked a right-wing, pro-life running mate and skipped campaigning in the Rust Belt states that lost her the election. She also spent the spring campaigning on shooting down Russian jets over Syria. So the story is that Putin was crafty enough to get dirt on Hillary (which all happened to be true) but was dumb enough to collude with someone as dumb as Trump to use it. Which would mean the FBI/NSA/CIA would have known, and then so too would have President Hillary. You couldn't write a bad 80's action movie with this kind of plot.
When this witch hunt runs out of gas, it's going to wonders for Trump's 2020 campaign, as he can run against Dems and the media for being deranged partisan hacks.
I like how American Excpeitonlists are so hell-bent on engaging in willful dumbfuckery that they'll charge in with it anyway, even if it's been pre-butted.
You just did it again, after it was laid out in advance how full of it American Excpeitonalists are for using that word.
To get back to the subject, there's an unhinged imperialist power that overthrows governments to this day, bombs nations on the other side of the world from it for bullshit reasons, spends billions overtly and covertly to influence elections around the world, wants to record the communications of every person on the planet, spends more on war than the rest of the world combined.
And over there is Russia.
There is no evidence of Russian collusion and there never will be, because it's the most painfully stupid nonsense since Birthers insisted Obama's parents planted a fake birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper, to back up a fake birth certificate so he could run for president. And I wonder how much time Cheney spends kicking himself these days - he could have skipped that whole sending-Powell-to-present-fake-evidece of Iraqi WMD's to the UN thing. Because he could have pulled any old claims dripping out of his ass and you would eat it up with a spoon, no questions asked.
That's exactly what it means. Russiagaters have had more than a year to put up or STFU up on their claims. Until you guys offer more evidence to back up your claims than the flat earthers/chem trailers/birthers/antivaxxers do, you are just as full of shit as they are.
Eh.
Vi.
Dence.
You mean butthurt American Exceptionalism at its most obnoxious. There's a Time cover linked upthread of the U.S. boasting about interfering to get Yeltsin elected. As opposed to Russiagate, which has no evidence to back it up and never will, as it's hysterical partisan Birther-type bullshit. Except now it's coming from Democrats.